My favorite quote,

WHEN THERE IS NOONE TO SUPPORT YOU IN YOUR SPIRITUAL PATH, YOU WALK IT ALONE.
- unknown

guys,

we must know
what we are doing ?
why we are doing ?
what to expect ?
what not we can do ?
what should we do ?

we are playing a waiting game
1. what are we waiting ?
2. how long to wait ?
3. what is the chances of success?

my answer:

1. an explosion to turn BJL into a gold mine
2. < 6 months
3. 90% chances of success

Unexpected outcome

1. we are defeated by the 10% odd

Conclusion : A GOOD WAIT


special note : "dumb dumb hold" or "wait" doesn't mean you can't find excitement elsewhere

I hope you do not feel jealous if i tell you I had found a lot of excitement and fun in HSI these few days. not only belly full , my pocket also full.
BUT......
you need a lion heart.
if not , you better kuai-kuai waiting here

miniminer //曾子曰：“十目所视，十手所指，其严乎！

This is statement quoted from a book called "了凡四訓" which emphasiized that one's destiny can be changed if one has the determination and courage to do do. Similar to the theory of existentialism by Friedrich Nietzsche " you are what you had chosen"
But, many are bound by their own fate living their life script without fail because they are not fear of what they are doing, they have no shame of what they are doing, worst still they do not believe their fate can be change and do not have the courage and determination to change.
Changes can be brought about by your action. One should be strict to oneself and more tolerant to others. Whatever one had done can't cheat everybody forever, be alert there are 10 eyes watching at you and 10 fingers pointing at you, there is no exception, no excuses and more so not a matter you believe or not believe. It is there for you to choose what you are going to be.

When you do not know what to do and can not do anything, but do not want to miss a gold mine, the best is wait and do nothing.
We know waiting is not an easy job for many of us here. But we also know we can blame the egg rotan just because it is too slow to hatch or demand the hen that lay the egg to assure us "it is all right" all the time.
Money is not easy to make. This is the price we got to pay for it. Nothing is free
Ask yourself, are you ready to kiss the chicken when the egg has hatched?
Most probably we had forgotten the chicken that had made us rich while cerebration our success.
Why not raise your thinking la evel higher, so that you happy that noone owe you anything and you owe noone anything.

NOT I can't

It is I can

some slow , some fast

it depends

the frequency is

gam , not gam

good afternoon,
theses few days playing something more exciting, no time to come to satay shop
Drop by just to tell all my good friends here
I am still in the privatization team waiting for BJL to meletup
good or bad we do not care and can't care about
just do not want to miss a gold mine
even though got to pay a high price in case we are unlucky

Nothing is perfect
but we can avoid many disappointments
if we do not demand our dream must be perfect


Be happy
Do hopeful
God will never abandon you
whether you are good or bad
but
you abandon HIM
God is sunshine
Good or bad got equal share .

when you are feeling down
just say the magic word

"Aseng,Aseng,Aseng "

I will be here to give you my kopi talk the fastest I can't

Good lucks
you are OK , I am OK
You win , I win

Translated in term of self improvement,

Isn't it a pleasure we can learn from friend who is not easy to meet often
(in olden time transportation is not convenient as now)

What is happening here now is exactly what had happened in Jays last year.
they are experts of power plant
you are experts of privatisation

Aseng just a simple oil palm planter
Aseng is knowledge first money second

Wherever there is good knowledge there is good money to bring home
If You target is knowledge, money come after you
If Your target money, money run away

Conclusion :When your focus is right, the target can not be far

This is the game I called it "WAIT"

＂有朋自远方来，不亦悦乎”
Literally translated as,

Is it not a delight after all to have friends come from afar

Shortinvestor77,

Good morning.

A little town call Brastagi in Sumatra
but I am a Malaysian.

Come to my satay shop
Say the magic word
"xxxxx,xxxxx,xxxxx"
You get a special brewed teh tarik FREE.

When the game is over all of us are expert in privatation.
From you I had learned how lazy am I iny investment homework
All of you deserved I call you sifu.
From you I had gained valuable know before I bring big money home
Wishing all of you happy, healthy and wealthy.
God blesses.


"... When I am down and, oh my soul, so weary;
When troubles come and my heart burdened be;
Then, I am still and wait here in the silence,
Until you come and sit awhile with me.

You raise me up, so I can stand on mountains;
You raise me up, to walk on stormy seas;

I am strong, when I am on your shoulders;
You raise me up: To more than I can be."

Good morning friends
If the price want to drop, let it drops, we can wait for the rebound because we never doubt our believe that the probability it will be taken private is as high as 90%
If the price want to rise, no hurry to enter buy more before we see the light at the end is most likely is true because our money is limited
I know you are are uneasy to see the price sleeping. I am too.
To play "waiting" syrategy, we must learn to stay undisturbed by the outside noise. We believe when it explode it must a loud one, not just 1 or 2 cents.
Take HSI for example, we know the riot is getting worst. I no huury to buy to early, i entered after a day or 2 later later, I am still one of the winner among many others.
The game is simple to play.
"WAIT" do nothing
But,
Do not behave so low class to prove other people wrong too early, they are already very frustrated, why make him feel worse.
This will invite bad lucks, moreover you yourself has no good victory to talk aloud.
Conclusion :KALAU TAK BOLEH BUAT BAIK, JANGAN BUT JAHAT, KERANA TAK BUAT JAHAT ITU SUDAH CUKUP BAIK.

shortinvestor77,


I like the word "finally"

you are finally proven right by the market
the" recognition" that you has gained
all the despair had finally gone
You do not need anyone to say thank you
the feeling itself is already a something more than anything

if any day you are overcome by despair ,
if any day you have no direction
just say the magic word
"Aseng....Aseng....Aseng....."
then thing isn't that ugly as you have thought.
be hopeful .

free come to my satay shop

shortinvestor77,

you deserved to win big, i hope the market will finally prove you right


shortinvestor77// Finally

do not forget the chance of success is 90%
do not forget a big success can't change your life very much,
but a small 10% error can destroy your everything
do not be greedy

brother ,
Agree. I like your words of caution . we should avoid doing anything that might end up a big trouble for you and your family . wealth should be accumulated slowly and safely



stockraider YES if u borrow monies to buy based on margin, what happen bland announce long term suspension ??

The bank will value your bland share on margin as zero & the bank will recall your loan loh....!!

Do u have the money to top up ?? If u have alot of monies to top up, u will not have bought so much on margin mah...!!

Understand the risk loh.....if u have the cash to buy hold alot, by all means go & buy hold bland loh....!

brother ,

if tomorrow another strong movement upward , then "finally" we see light at the other end of the dark tunnel. now it is still to early for us to say anything .

Hahaha....
Why complain so much
Just put some money here and wait for the break out, then tambah lagi
If you still have extra fund, you still can make some funs elsewhere mah...
Today I also make money elsewhere . Just a small amount only, enough to buy a few days breakfast lah.
If you have no more money,. then wait, nothing else. We should get a clearer picture after agm
Don't worry, I still strongly believe we are right. It is worthwhile to wait. Do not be defeated by you own distress or the frustration of other people. I can guarantee you anything, but I can make my intention clear to you, I will stay here as long as you do not panic sell if there is bad news or the price has not breached 40 if there is good news.

Be grateful to shortinvestor77 and many other sifu who are very kind and generous to share their knowledge with you here.

Be grateful to those are very anxious and frustrated because you see yourself stronger than them

the probability we will win big is 90%. So we are not wrong to park some of our money here. If we are unlucky, we are slaughtered because of the 10% error. accept the truth willingly. Moreover right from the beginning we never demand a sure win. we are punished by our bad lucks, not because we follow blindly what sifu said or we are stupid

Good lucks.

I busy talking here
I do not bother to look at the price
Suddenly the screen show an allert
JAKS had hit my upper bound
Show I sell all now
No!
Let the profit run
My alert will tell me when it is time to sell
So, you see I am so free
Can talk 3 talk 4 here

Just share your knowledge
May it be
As simple as e=mc2
Or
As difficult as 1+1 = 2

Share your knowledge not your fear
With the knowledge he will decide what is best to do
If he is fearful, he will blindly follow what people said

Because he is uneasy
Has no direction what to do is the best
He is unhappy
He demands everything goes the way he wants

Do not be emotional, why ask other to sapu when you yourself dare not do it. Investment needs some lucks, When your mouth is no good, your luck can not be good. If you dare not win, then let other win. Others win or lose, big or small, you are still yourself. If you have no luck or is not deserved to win, even though you had held a gold mine, you will also feel uneasy, so worry some one else will rob it away from you. This is what I had observed after many years here.

Good lucks

Don't worry, I know what to do.

No lah....
I value knowledge more than money
This is my first time betting on the belief of privatation. I bought small small 200k only, don't need to cry cry father or cry mother one.

888STOCK888 Aseng now takut VT offer $0.01 after he acquire 90%,right? Compulsory takeover man... He can offer us any price after he acquire 90%

shortinvestor77,

few days ago i remember someone shared a summary of the terms and condition of the take over by a big player who is holding the company shares from 33% to 90% in chinese, is it you are the one who shared here . do you mind to paste the link here again .

thank you

888stock888

No! wait for the break out first . our cash is limited , got to use with care .


Posted by 888STOCK888 > Nov 8, 2019 2:27 PM | Report Abuse

Peluang hebat! Sapu semua 0.20 la!

Thank you gangnam, you are right.
Bjcorp dispose bjtoto is another good indication of our guessing is right.

Minimine ,

I know you are anxious

this is the price you got to pay for the big money bring home because nothing is free in this world

share your anxiety here , we hope we can help you to be a more confident and successful investor

good lucks

nobody owe anybody anything

profit or loss is common shares trading

as long as we do it the way we believe it right

then then is no regret

I believe many who come here agree BJL is a good bet

i am confident to say here that based on all the valuable information we had gather here

the probability of success is not less than 90%

the truth is , that is my own theory derived from many years of trading and conversation here

NOT EVERYONE DESERVED TO WIN BIG.
THE UNDESERVED ALWAYS CAN NOT WAIT LONG ENOUGH TO SEE THE SUCCESS

talking about "wait"

everybody know the time is getting near nearer to the final call

it is a wait but definitely not a long wait

because QR is end of this month and AGM is early next month

do you thing the small ikan bilis are really that stupid that they will not they not get some clarification in the AGM . but remember we are doing business not a judge VT is right or wrong

miniminer,

honestly speaking I do not understand what you want to deliver
it sound to me you demand thing the way you want
nothing is perfect
it can be more perfect to one if he demand less

This just an old satay man talk nothing to do with religious teaching

well done shorthinvestor77

your generosity to share with us valuable knowledge related to our investment in BJL already build you a good karma for your future more successful investment .

thank you .

I deem this is another once in the life time good bet.
The probability of success is 90%
The strategy is "WAIT"

Good morning all my good friends here

I glanced through some useful information shared by sdf2000 and shortinvestor77

It is not true that the big boy can do whatever they want to bully the minority
The whole process is monitored or governed well by SC and also there is a body called independent adviser to evaluate the offer price so that it is fair and reasonal

So the fear that the big boy will slaughter the minority until there is no meat left is unfounded.

I am now more confident our decision to trade bjl is right.

Thank you sifu Sdf2000 and shortinvestor77 for the useful knowledge you had shared with us
Also thanks to those who voiced their fears, your caution severe a good motivation for us to know more about the taking over process
Thank you, thank you.
Good job
Good lucks

skyu :oui satay dude, nobody or even the regulators have any proof if Vincent had 90% stake. I was the one who anticipated since the latest annual report missing the 4 plus % of penta.

Aseng : what wrong I agree with you anticipation and use the figure 90%for common sense analysis


indeed, many would certainly agree ytlland deal is the worst and again, in property stock, lu cant use nta as a guide to valuation.

Agree: I prefer net net valuation is more appropriate with a discount of at least 30% for bad sector sentiment

not that many smart person will tell the world he would privatise his company at much higher price than the current trader price. this is all about gamble now.

Aseng : of course it is a gambling and we are happy to gamble because see the probability to win is high with the assumption VT is now holding at 90% or more


bear in mind, we dont have any other major shareholder with 5% stake to against any unfair privatisation price. for example, if we have epf with 5.01 % in the board, epf has the right to block the deal if they think the deal is bad.
the latest foreign mutual funds show the foreigner only had less than 1% shares in bjland.

Aseng : i never hope any strong hand will give a weaker hand a helping hand . if you see they are there , the the future is brighter


here only discuss your knowledge and experiences with 1 aim, making money

Aseng : knowledge and experiences is important but if you dare not bet a good bet and demanding for a sure win bet , then God also can't help you



I am just a small businessman selling satay at my Taman, please forgive me if the above replies sound crude to you .
I hope you keep on sharing your views , good or bad , right or wrong , doesn't matter , we learn from each other and make our common sense deduction come closer closer to the right direction

good lucks

Why there is China apek involved in the play?

What was the market price of ytl land then?

What is the rationale provided by ytl for the low offer price?

Even the blind also can see bjl has value asset. More value can be created if it is restructured to meet the shares spread requirement,
I do not see any reason why VT wants to slaughter the minority for just for a simple 10%.
Common sense tells me he should be most happy to buy all the 10%from you at a higher price if he wish to take over the whole asset. moreover with his corporate restructuring skill he can make even more.
Not necceasry for him to behave so cheap to the extent to be blanded "rape the small players" and carry this title whenever his name is mentioned now and forever.
I just do not understand why people keep telling here he will rape us. Am I outdated or there are indeed such animal around in the corporate world.
Ytl? as you nonstop mentioning. Share with us the story. It must be a good chapter for all of us to read.
Thank you

Mind to share with us how ytlland slaughtered its minority shareholders.
I believe the saying whatever had happen must had a reason.

Ytlland has such value asset?

Well done. This article may help to relief the fear of the minority being slaughter helplessly.
VT already owned more 90%, who is so free to fight the minority for the little 10% whereas more value can be created after a restructuring exercise and the biggest win is still belong to the one who holding more than 90%. Of course we the 10%got our fair share of the victory

let him win 90% and we win 10% of the total to be created value after restructuring

Conclusion : do not kakacaucau let him do a good job
If you want to press the price down, then wait for the QR to be released end of the month, this may be another negative. Then there are plenty of the undeserved fighters will be willing to sell you cheap

Good lucks

Minority interest is well protected by listing rule and regulation monitored by SC.
Stay calm, have faith in the reason you invest in BJL

You can any time and has the right to voice your grievance in tha AGM.
If you cry father cry mother here, there is a liklihood you make many newbies feel more uneasy.
We have the right to know
But
We do not have the right to demand the management to do the way each and everyone of us want it to do

From the above rule and regulation shared by SDF2000, we are well informed that we had the right to say "no" if the offer price is 0.01.
We are not fighting alone and well prepared if anybody trying to play fault

Conclusion : it is safe to hold until the cloud is clear.

Sdf2000,
Well done. I had read you comment.

These conditions said clearly the game is a fair play. The minority is well protect to ensure the game is fair to all parties

1. the failure of the bidder to obtain such acceptances was due to the inability of the
bidder to trace one or more of the persons holding shares after having made
reasonable enquiries;

2. the shares acquired under the bid and shares held by the untraceable persons
meet the 90% threshold; and

3. the offer price is fair and reasonable.

I will join the whattsapp group if these condition is not met like what 888stock888 worries VT may offer 1 cent to acquire our shares that worth no less than 80cents
This is ridiculous. That can onle be done in you own home not Bursa Malaysia.

No lawyer is required
No complaints is required
No begging vt to telling everything before the official announcement
You are telling us you are very uneasy, either still holding the shares or already sold all scare it is a mistake and you miss a gold mine
Listen to my super sifu advice

DO NOTHING, WAIT

This is the best to do now.

If you are long enough in shares trading, you will agree what I said. Unless you are extremely uneasy then it is understandable you will say something that even a primary school common sense also can tell it is nonsense.

CONCLUSION : WAIT

Shares trading is the transfer of wealth from a weak hands to a strong hand.
Big money is made in waiting
I buy BJL with a good reason
I must have faith in my believe
Those who already sold like, Ivan, 888stock888..., please stop spreading fear hete. You are doing nothing good but cheap selling yourselves. If you dare not but, then let Aseng and his brave warriors do the best they belive.
From your I know very well many of you had already sold your shares. But you worry it is a mistake, so you hope more people do the same, in case it is the mistake, you do not feel yourself very stupid.

I decided to withdraw this statement
to replace it with a buy below 0.18 knowing pretty the coming QR would be another negative. This is not my focus. I focus more on bring big money once the good news is announced announced.


888STOCK888 Aseng... Macai VT read your
comments about 0.175 you'll be gone...
The share price shall test 0.175...

Ivan9511 is correct