Calvin and others,

I value friendship too. That is why I have been hanging on to this thread for so long. But in order not to aggravate matters, I have decided to be just a silent reader on this thread(until provoked) from now on. Not sure if I will appear on the other threads.

For those who had spoken up for me, I appreciated. Let's put this episode behind us and move on. Please do not quote me for whatever reason in your future postings.

Share price can go up and down by the stock operator. Real friendship is here to stay. Same for any stock, there are always cycles of ups and downs, depending on the factors at play.

ATTN ALL FORUMERS(including LENO/PUSSYCAT)

This is supposed to be a free forum to share information and opinions on PM Corp. So long as the view is backed by facts, what is wrong with that? Did I say specifically that the price will surely drop. It is definitely not as outright as Mikekong that directly talked down on the counter with his own 'ridiculous' target prices. Moreover, our forumers population is just a small segment of the total investing population, will our action significantly affect the share price?

For the sake of other forumers here, I will put a stop on my postings on this thread from now onwards, only on the condition that Leno/PussyCat do not utter any more bad cursing in any form on me from now onwards. If I hear a word of cursing from any of them, I will not hesitate to return them 10 times more. All I need is just cut and paste my postings to publicise about them on this thread on a 'heavy gunpower' basis.

Once in a while, I will come in to check on this thread for any ill posting on me. I also have my other forum friends that can provide feedback to me too.

For me, to use this thread or even the i3investor platform is just optional. I do not need to promote my stocks here at all. But to Leno/Pussycat, this is their platform to promote PM Corp. They will definitely have lots more to lose on this thread.

So, forumers here will be our witnesses. If Leno/PussyCat provoke me any more, please do not blame me for blasting this thread with lots of free publicity about them. GO AFTER LENO/Pussycat since they choose to start it.

Do not try me...I meant it and I am not as easygoing as the other few forumers that they cursed. I might even round up these forumers to 'bombard' them with postings altogether, just like US air strikes against Iraq or lodge a complaint to ban them altogether.

There is a limit to one's tolerance. Leno/Pussycat must be made to answer for their choice of action.

Ask who started it all? The least professional auntie!!!

What info can she provide, except to tik tok here, tik tok there!

All forumers/friends(except for the cat-like shark),

If I were the shark, I would list out all my portfolio on all the threads to promote heavily, but I did not. Why?

1. I believe all good stocks will move by themselves. No need to promote heavily...

2, I am scared that some ill-intentioned sharks will curse at my stocks(like the one here).

3. This is all personal. There is nothing to boost about, unlike someone that claims she is the most panlai on earth, to sell herself for obvious reasons.

Friends, always trade with care. Do your OWN due diligence. Do not accept any recommendation wholesale until you know the character of the person well(Important to find out if the promotor has any vested interest or hidden agenda in the stock that he/she promotes)

That is all I need to say. Good luck, guys!

All forumers/friends(except for the cat-like shark),

I did the TA chart reading to share with you guys for the benefit of all. As I said, ultimately it all depends on how the shark wants to play with the stock.

"Quote my TA chart-reading posted yesterday:
Based on chart, PM Corp demonstrated a bearish engulfing candlestick pattern 2 days ago, followed by another long black candlestick yesterday. Volume has also dropped significantly. Today, volume traded so far is very low(229,800 shares).

There is a high probability that it is gradually trending lower(not a straight line though), unless volume can be increased substantially in the next few days with a breakout or some positive news upon release of the last quarter's results. Ultimately, it still depends on how the shsrk intends to play with this stock.

Unquote"

I meant it well and have a clear conscience. Not like some sharks with a hidden agenda. Bad karma/luck will fall back on her many more generations down the road) if she really has a hidden agenda!

When we watch the special cat show, we must watch until the end and then you will know the real agenda.

But at the same time, I also pity the cat-like shark. Does she really know whether the real shark(operator) is buying or selling? No wonder when she sold PM Corp, she always did not sell near the highest, far worse than her disciple, Mikekong.

I did not cook this up. It was posted by Sunztzhe, one of the good-hearted forumers that she had cursed on this thread on Jun 21, 2014 10:16 PM . Check it out yourself!

Sunztzhe' posting:

Hi i3 forumers,
This is Leno the most panlai investor for you

Quoting Leno@ March 8 2014:
oh hi ... and yup i make at least half million rm from PMCorp ... bought 10 sen sell 29 sen, bought again 23 sen, sell 26 sen ... now started to recollect back anything below 22 sen.
Unquote Leno.

Quote Leno today:
Dun waste time ponder the Amateur c2peed questionlor ... Better SAILANG all your money in PMCORP the SOLID GOLD COUNTER mar.
Unquote Leno.

What price level are you going to SELL to the people who listen to your advise to SAILANG all their money in PMCORP the SOLID GOLD COUNTER?

Leno buys anything below 22 cent( = 21.5 cents, 21.0 cents, 20.5 cents etc) and yet advise SMART i3 investors to SAILANG all their money to buy 23 cents and above? Does Leno think that i3 investors are really c2speed????

Buy 21.5 cents ,sell 23 cents Gain= +6.98%,sell 24 cents Gain=+11.63%, sell 25 cents Gain=+16.3%, sell 26 cents Gain=+20.9%

Buy 21.0 cents,sell 23 cents Gain=+9.52%, sell 24 cents Gain=14.3%, sell 25 cents Gain=+19%, sell 26 cents Gain=+23.8%

Buy 20.5 cents,sell 23 cents Gain=+12.2%, sell 24 cents Gain=+17.1%, sell 25 cents Gain=+21.95%, sell 26 cents Gain=+26.83%
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

(No more reply to postings from our bitchy woman shark on this thread!)

Cat-like shark Leno,

You finally show your face.

Look at the way you curse people, like e bitch. Bad luck will surely go back to you. Talk about karma and yet never practise that. If you check back at old postings we will know what type of character she is.

In just a short span of a few months here, everyday curse people(eg Sunztzhe, Steven Yong and a few more)that give opposing views, just to prop up her shares for her own benefits.

When I mentioned about Inari, I was just rebutting someone(that claimed to be her disciple, MikeKong) who talked down about people trapped in PM Corp), by reasoning that in every stock there are still people who get trapped at some point in time, Inari is no exception. What is wrong with that? Go and discipline your disciple, he even said this stock will drop back to about 10.5 sen. And I was the one to confront him and asked other forumers not to sell at depressed prices. A lot of forumers can testify to that. I only talk about facts(well-balanced facts). You ask any TA expert, do they interpret it the way that I did for PM Corp's current chart reading?

Remember about retribution. Bad karma for you!!!! My deepest condolences to you too!!! Do not take advantage of people's ignorance for your own gains.

This is my last posting with you. No more time to waste on a bitchy character. I will not reply to any of your nonsense posting.

Ha! Ha! Have a kind heart and people will know.

Chanky50, my portfolio consists of mainly blue chips and some laggards(including Insas that you have).

If you really want to improve on yourself, go and brush up on TA skills(like attend a TA course or read up on internet).

TA is good at timing your entry/exit points.

Frankly, I am not interested to be a leader at all. When Leno came in, I thought she could do a good job to lead our people to greener pastures, but instead she almost led our people to Holland(encouraged other people to buy when she was in fact selling!) and leave some in the lurch now.

That is why I came in to help. As I said earlier(and I repeat), I am past the age for titles and credits. In fact, I would rather spend more time monitoring my other counters instead.

Be humble and help others. This is definitely not a place to exert one's superiority complex.

Pussycat(or Leno?),

Do not prejudge. Your view is a general one, which I have been telling our forumers all along(pls check my earlier postings) - never sell at depressed prices and wait for a better time to sell.

As I currently do not own this counter, I answered what Tori asked in my own context. Your answer is already a known fact. What is so special?

Tori's question:
What will you do if the result is good? and what will you do if it is bad? if it is good then the price will shoot up and it will be too late to grab the current price and of cause it will be down if it happen to be bad, how then?

You claim that you are so smart, tell me exactly how the share price will react to the result announcement in clear terms.

If good result, how it will perform for the day?
If no good result, how will it perform for the day?

Next, tell us how you view the trend of this stock? Do not copy mine and do not bring our people to Holland.

These are things that will show how you are different from others. Can you do that? If not, you are just no different from us.

Ha! Ha!

Pussycat(or Leno's 2nd ID?)

You like to talk down on people. Tell me, for the same Tori's question, let us see how you answer it.

But make sure you do not bring us to Holland!

Tori, there is no hard and fast rules. You have to make your own decisions. As the share price has already gone up ahead of the announcement, the share price may not go up much(or it could be a brief rebound in a downtrend) even if there is an improvement in the results. Like what I said, it all depends on how the shark wants to play it.

I may not even consider buying this stock if I do not see any marked improvement in its business.

Pussycat, our forumers are smart people. You think they will follow you if you have betrayed their trust?

Ha! Ha! Once bitten twice shy.

Tori, follow a good leader. At the same time, do your own analysis too. Good luck!

Currently I am not looking at buying this stock. I will wait for the result to be announced first and decide.

Tori, this counter is a low-beta stock. It is not meant for contra trades. If you are trading this stock, make sure you have a trade plan.

Based on chart, PM Corp demonstrated a bearish engulfing candlestick pattern 2 days ago, followed by another long black candlestick yesterday. Volume has also dropped significantly. Today, volume traded so far is very low(229,800 shares).

There is a high probability that it is gradually trending lower(not a straight line though), unless volume can be increased substantially in the next few days with a breakout or some positive news upon release of the last quarter's results. Ultimately, it still depends on how the shsrk intends to play with this stock.

Just my views only. Buy/sell at own risks.

Pussycat(or Leno's 2nd ID?),

You sound like a cat-like shark!

Do not tempt people again? Are you really buying or selling? After my experience with you, I trust my chart reading more than I trust you.

Ha! Ha!

Chanky50, in terms of fundamentals, PM Corp looks okay. My only concern is management does not seem focussed on enhancing the shareholders' value and growing the business. If these points can be changed, things should change for the better.

Chanky50, we are all humans and we make mistakes. More importantly, we must learn from our mistakes.

During Clob International time, I was still new to investing in shares. So, I just followed others to chase after shares, not knowing that these 'sharks' were actually unloading their shares to us.

Now, I know exactly how this investment game is played. Blue chips are the ones that will reward us in the long term. Imagine those who had bought only 1000 share of Public Bank during its IPO day(some 40+ years ago) would, over the years via bonus and rights issues, have become millionaires. if they are still keeping it until now.

Andy, still holding Muiprop? It has run up much more in the same period. If so, you are considered to be more panlai than Leno. PM Corp only went up 6 sen(from 21.5 sen to 27.5 sen that she sold) in the same period.

Lee9fold, long time I did not see your posting. Thanks for your feedback.

Pussycat(or Leno's 2nd ID?),

Do not pretend leh. Talked as though you would hold long term and encouraged our forumers to buy. But just 'ran away' the moment things turned. Calvin must have really misplaced his trust in you by saying that you are his "five stars general" for this counter.

Is this how Leno becomes the most panlai investor? Maybe, our forumers can give their views. Let's hear what other people have to say..

Some stray cats thought I am still a 'greenhorn', can be 'conned' easily. Over these years, I have gotten to be 'sophisticated' too.

Apart from FA, TA, I also use SA.

Ha! Ha!

Of course, sharks collected during the recent world cup. Got to do some stock clearance sales. They did it subtly in the beginning and now, in a bigger scale.

Ha! Ha! Winning is knowing when to stop(Casino's warning sign).

Pussycat,

So, now you know who is more panlai not to listen to your 'fake' buy call.

Ha! Ha! Trade at own risks.

Looking at the way Sumatec got sold down by the shark this afternoon, kind of scary. Sad case. I think some punters got burnt today.

History always repeats itself in penny stocks. Only if they could learn from it.

M00077, there are certain intangible things not so clearly reflected in the balance sheet.

Please read back my previous postings and you should get an idea why I think it cannot fly high.

Buy/sell at own risks.

Looks like the special Cat's show is over.

What we can see from TA is a bearish engulfing candlestick pattern yesterday. Beware!

Pussycat,

I usually do my own analysis. I do not need any help from you. What I meant earlier is to help our fellow forumers here. Help with a true heart.

I have said enough. I need to attend to other things now.

Pussycat(or/and Leno)

If you think you are a good cat, help the people around you.

Life is a never-ending learning process.
Be humble and you will have more friends than enemies.

高处不胜寒 - those who stay at the top usually feel very lonely...

Now, I am watching on the sidelines a special show directed by the cat "family".

End of the day, I hope 'she or they' do not bring our people to Holland!

m00077,

Are you new to the market?

When I first started trading the stock market some 20+ years ago(during the Clob International time), I also liked to chase after stocks.

As time went by, I acquired the ropes. Nowadays, I do not chase after stocks. I wait for stocks to fall back to 'reasonable' level before I consider investing. Of course, the fundamentals of the stock are important too.

Do not worry. If it really goes up to 39 sen, I will reserve this credit for you.

I do not go after titles and credits these days.

m00077, do not find me. I do not have a buy call at the current price. Find the one that claims the most panlai on this thread.

Of course, I need to state my case, when accused wrongly.

Case closed.

In fact, if you check back, I was the one who pointed out rightly that PM Corp's selling almost dried up. 2 days later, it started to move..

I do not want to claim credit. Records ara there for people to check...

When did I write PM Corp is going to crash? I just asked forumers(esp punters) to be careful when trading and limit their exposure.

Please check your facts before you open your month...

人外有人,天外有天!

There are always smarter and more panlai people around. Nobody can claim he/she is the most panlai!

If you think you are, there is no need to shout around. People around you can tell.

Ha! Ha! Ask yourself, are all these secular titles so important to you?

Still arguing non-stop? If you ask me who is most panlai investor on earth? I would say it is the shark.

He can make us happy, make us moody and even make us quarrel. It is not what we think where the share price should be. It is the almighty shark.

Ha! Ha! Buy/sell at own risks.

No problem. I can rely on my own analysis. If you give, that is a bonus.

Dear Leno, you should know that I have never doubted your investment knowhow. Remember the instance when some other forumers teased you, I spoke up for you.

Ha! Ha! Let's huat together...

Dear Leno,

Congratulations on your PM Corp's performance today.

My previous posting was on the bigger picture. This is called the top-down approach to investing, which was meant kind-heartedly for a larger group of our forumers here on this thread. Since you feel that this is not proper, I shall not post any more.

I would like to give you my true feedback too. No hard feelings.

Looking at your postings, every time, you like to shout the same tunes again, like a machine play-back. Nothing really anew. What good does it serve on this thread? Some of our readers, including myself, are getting bored and tired.

You like to talk about karma. But you also like to call people names and 'humiliate' others. Is this good karma? Money is not everything and success is not measured by how much we have, but by how well we carry ourselves and treat others.

I did not mean to be rude. If there is anything that I misquoted, I apologise.

Hope things really clear up.

Latest figures showed the market experienced a net outflow of RM300mil in July 2014(based on report below):

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Business-News/2014/08/05/Local-equities-market-sees-RM13bil-net-outflows-over-15-months/

If history is our teacher, here are just some real examples of recent history....

Bursa market:
http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/highlights/287241-highlight-selldown-on-small-cap-stocks-hl.html

Sgx market:
http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-news/261223-highlight-what-happened-to-asiasons-blumont-liongold-on-oct-4-why.html

Today, Bursa market volume has swelled again. Looks like a lot of retailers are already lured back into the market again.

In this red hot market, better know what you are doing. Limit your exposure and trade cautiously. Otherwise, it is easy to get your fingers burned.

http://www.nst.com.my/node/19987

In Chinese, there is this saying, "居安思危 思则有备 有备无患"(meaning always anticipate dangers in times of peace. To prepare for the worst-case scenario would help to ease our minds).

A good leader/entrepreneur needs to possess such wisdom. In modern business terms, it is called performing a 'SWOT' analysis.

Another classic example of over-expansion is Five Stars Tours(Singapore).

http://business.asiaone.com/news/personal-finance/wheel-fortune-turns-against-five-star-boss

Lesson from 1.99 Shop's failure: Over-expansion can result in cash-flow problems.

O & G business is the in-thing these days. I notice quite a few listed companies are eyeing on or venturing into this business. Is this a good business idea, esp if it is a new venture and when interest rate is trending up?

Only time will tell.

Zu1967, hello to you too. Never heard from you for quite a while. You must be quietly making good money this period?

In a bull market, more than 80% of the investors/traders make money easily. The only difference is just the amount of profits made.

The real test will come only when market takes a turn into a bear territory. You can really see a vast difference in results.

PS Investment involves a substantial amount of risk. Past investment result does not necessarily guarantee future performance. Please seek professional advice whenever necessary and applicable.