Amboiii.....down trend now...hsr delay...indon not yet financial closure....bestari net kena batal...

Francis gor, wat u planning to do??

Have 4 booking cancelled by airasia, submitted the refund cases by last mid of march, promise to refund to origin payment source by 4-6 weeks, just chatted vf live agent, refund now takes 12-16 weeks, how fair to consumers, bravo!!

When make booking, wanna collect money immediately, dun care under what circumstances, now when ask for refund, ask me to consider their current situation...now i know why everyone wanna do biz...cos sure win all!!!!

Wao....few months ago ppl tp for ytlp is 50cents, i said impossible, now...is getting real...sweat!!

My bad, forget they can just make one up and the other down to close the 20cents gap.

Ytl & ytlp 20cents gap is closing up soon, is either ytl up or ytlp goes down...wait and see

Politic chaos...

See if new PM will revive all big project asap or not...luckily tis PM close vf johor sultan, and ytl got gemas on goin project vf johor sultan...

I'm not spreading fear, im just giving facts, sorry for the long post.

Stop imagine about any cure, just pray for vaccine.

Undoubtedly, Covid-19 is widespread, now we have to look into 2 factors:

1. The Ro rate, how many person it will affect and spread, so far the estimation is one sick person can affect 3-4, is lower than Ebola, which hold the highest Ro rate of 6, but virus is tricky, it will mutate, look at the Diamond cruise, the figure is scary.

2. CFR, the fatality, or % of dead once get infected. SARs is 9.5% fatality rate, 1000 person got SARs, around 95 will die. Covid-19 is 2%, but the data is from China, which most ppl has doubt, as during SARs, China CFR is only 4%, but Canada is 14%. But very soon, we will hv a picture of it, as Japan, SG & HK is with higher patients which will tell us a more accurate CFR.

If Covid-19 is similar as SARs, the virus will get slowing down once get into April-May, as Corona virus is hard to spread during summer season, which is hot and dry. But it won't just vanish, of during this mid-year unable to develop a vaccine or effective quarantine, it will be a second outbreak by Oct-Nov, this incident almost happen for SARs, but luckily found the source of virus. Second outbreak, will be catastrophic, as the virus will be mutated and more tricky.

If anyone thinking Covid-19 will just go away anytime soon, is impossible, as black death last for 140 years, Spanish flu is 4 years, SARs is 1 year plus. Without a vaccine, and by the number affected, it hard to predict when it gonna slow down or stop spreading.

@geary, for virus, there is no cure, as it is mircoorgansm mostly living on protein based host (any living animal)

For example, we didn't cure Polio, we merely developed a vaccine (prevention from unsick ppl) for it, from time to time, Polio still happening at some 3rd world countries.

You can search for a name, 管軼. He is HK virologist there discovered SARs is from civets, he didn't cure SARs, he just able to cut off the source of origin, which we called it ground zero.

Put it this way, all those survive from SARs, they still carrying the virus, just the body develop an antibody n immune system to co-living with the virus.

You might ask, why fever can be cured? Cause fever can caused by 2 types, one is virus, another, is BACTERIA, bacteria is curable.

So most epidemic outbreak, doctor or health department will overlooked at the beginning, is due to the first symptoms are fever, cough and flu, which can either caused by bacteria or virus.

Once virus get into your body, it will living into your cells, unlike bacteria, will just either flow with your blood or some parts of your organ.

Yeah, buy when ppl fear.

Just avoid all tourism related stocks now.

Medication, gloves & public infra are best bet now.

Hopefully get the vaccine for Covid asap...god bless.

I mentioned before, if my calculation is accurately, soonest ytlp making higher profit shd be this year end, latest is by next year 2nd qtr.

Ytl, ytlp, ytlreit all is very predictable.

Watever management mention, they will do it.

Why soonest is by this year end, just check jordan power plant & sg seraya u will get the picture.

@steven20, if u looking for long term, ytlp sure can invest, but i think u more into speculation.

Ya, dividend can decrease anytime, if management said nid reserve capital for capex.

But luckily unlike ytl land, ytlp is with dividend policy since listed.

I think, right now is better invest into ytl instead of power...as indon tjg. Jati power plant once got financial closure, it will nid money to start the groundwork. We r talking about RM4 billion construction cost, even ytlp got financing of 80% (which is highest % able to get financed for construction project), ytlp (80% owned for tjg jati power plant) still nid to comes out RM640 millions for this project. Also, uk bristol project gonna kick start soon as well, and is oso under ytlp.

But for ytl, is in a more comfortable position, as ytl got cement and construction biz, the gemas-jb is on goin, if HSR got revive, even ytl unable to tender tis project, at least cement industry still got to be one of the beneficiaries.

One issue @Icon8888 raised up is very true, ytlp is in Capex phase...so no point privatize so soon, but eventually it is the plan.

In fact tis few years, ytl been doing lots of consolidation and restructuring under their stable, as many biz being overlapping, such as ytl injected more matured hotels bizs from ytl to ytl reit.

But unlike cement, e-solution & land...ytl power comes with more issued shares and less shares holding by ytl, so is more hard to go for privatize, but if the gap between ytl & ytlp getting wider, who knows wat will happen, but power got major shareholders such as epf, if privatize in low price, gomen sure bising one...as epf will lost money, alot.

To delist ytlp is old news, pop up time to time...

Back in year 2012:

The Chinese daily newspaper — which carried an exclusive interview with Tan Sri Francis Yeoh, who is heading the conglomerate — quoted Yeoh as saying: "After delisting YTL Cement, we intend to privatise more listed companies. We hope to distribute more cash and dividends to our shareholders. And YTL Corporation Bhd will dish out more dividends in future."

@steven20

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/ytl-corp-intends-privatise-ytl-power-says-maybank-ib

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/ytl-privatise-more-firms-buy-assets-says-report

Wah...long time no see high volume...who sell and who buy??

Comments rushing in very soon...im double, triple sure...

Unless HSR revive or privatize ytlp...

Or else really dun see much excitement in ytl for this year...

Summore wuhan virus...zzz, sienz lor...

Affin still okay....

If MIDF, then must run!!

9 out of 10 got rated by MIDF all gone cases...

Lol....share drop all quiet down...

Up abit later all come comment making tons of profit...

Lol....40cents??

Maybe in ur dream...is a profit making company, but privatization YeS!!

Back in year 2010,2011 & 2012, francis mentioned many times, eventually, there oni will be one listed company at Bursa, which is YTL...

Look at how they manage to privatize cement, ytle and land...no doubt, the question is when.

Best guess is very soon for power, as jordan commence soon, indon goin to construct soon, so profit is otw, yeoh family sure wont share big money vf shareholders.

They will just share swap, and said ytl is much better choice...

Ows 20 cents different between ytl & ytlp...if can get the trend...can play contra make money...

Ows trying to maintain 20 cents price difference between ytl & ytlp

Fishy

Unless Gemas rail got huge bill to gomen, really cant see the coming 1-3 qtr got any surprise...

Cement, yes4g & sg seraya all still bleeding...jordan might commence this or next year, indon not even start any groundwork now.

To see better eps, gonna wait at least till mid 2021, if nothing major happen such as bond crisis.

As i said before, based on previous trend, sbb stop share price drop.

If wanna see ytl share shot up, unless privatize ytlp now, as most cash reserve is at ytlp, not ytl.

But i dun think at current market, after taking lafarge, francis will take another privatization so soon, i might be wrong, but to invest ytl, sabar not 1-2 month, might take several years, but once all clouds clear up, rm3-4 or even 5 is possible...

As mentioney earlier, sbb stop share price drop

Sbb cant go on forever unless u r Nestle or FB with so much money dunno wat else to do, ytl mostly in infra, which nid huge capital to run the show.

Lol...oso, when hard promoter comment, oso make share drop

Merely depend on sbb?

Yeoh family is doing biz, not charity.

Unless smtg good happen, or else sbb stop, share price drop.

Is a trend from my past experience for this few years

Share price up merely SBB scheme kick in.

I been holding for last 5 years...everytime SBB will up but not last...

The greatest uptrend is cos by HSR announcement b in year 2017 hit 1.55...

Eventually wan ytl share up and sustainable, nid something exciting such as new project or higher dividend, which of cos higher profit.

The gap between ytl & ytlp gonna be 20cents soon again...is weird, IB cover ytlp, but ytl is the one going North...

As usual...hanky panky...normal trend tongo south now...francis...francis...may the patient one bear the fruit

They purposely chose double 12...so ppl will busy online shopping no time go agm tiu gao them!!

Wao....byk comments now...so happening...

Ytl can go try bid...chance is slim, but no harm to try

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businesstimes.com.sg/government-economy/jakartas-mrt-network-set-for-us40b-expansion%3famp?espv=1

I got no choice, bought at 1.5-1.4...cant escape liao...if u look for fast money, dun expect ytl to do so in coming qtr...

Bro...before year 2013, ytl revenue used to hovering 20 billions per annum...recent years revenue is dropping...2 qtr for 5bil is no good...ytl got big loan to serve...but lafarge is a great one...but tat day egm didnt went tru...zzz

ytl privatized cement, ytl-e & land all is using the same old trick, share swap, without chucking any money out from their pocket...pls take note.

recently YTL is aggressively doing privatization.

now most i heard ppl saying in this forum is yeoh gonna privitize YTL. they gonna push ytl to 60cents, 50 cents or even 40 cents

using their own money? family fund?

ytl is the mother, ytlp & ytlreit all is the son...privatize mother? share swap?
i dunno how yeoh family gonna do it...pls enlight me

if compare the issued share capital & current market value between ytl, ytlp & ytlreit, will shock how huge is ytl compare to the other 2

Hi dear, whr u got source that ytl reit got less control from yeoh family??

Pls chrck the BoD members...direct inderect from ytl corp to ytlreit is around 64%

Pandai cukup...jgn terlalu pandai.

Reit gave high dividend is due to it is a trust structure based on properties rental...

Better sell the 4g yes...throw cement no point...

Whr are all those hard promoters?

Malaysia Solar is coming in a big way soon...i dun see ytl grab any seat at all...zzz

@newbie917

Totally agreed!!

Most ppl that promote hard here...newbie to ytl...they tot got durian runtuh share price shot up at ytl...just let them day dream...

Holding power to share such as ytl is the key...but they dun get it...

No nid to explain much...just let them do all the hard promote, like previous ppl, they will be silence in another 1-2 months...

Nothing exciting yet to happen...all under financial closure or planning stage...jordan, indon, bristol, hsr and etc...

Unless u r patient enuf, otherwise till next year 1st qtr i think ytl share price wont go anywhr around .80-.95

Hope im wrong...as i bought during 1.5...pity me...

ady mentioned many times, ppl critic share will up, ppl promote hard will drop...

if you bought this share, just keep quite, no need hard promote all this old news...if got latest news only share it...

share this year news is great...my god, go and show me dividend back to 2014, no need teach history here:

20-Aug-2015 05-Oct-2015 DIVIDEND Interim Dividend RM 0.0950 Dividend Detail
28-Aug-2014 29-Oct-2014 DIVIDEND Interim Dividend RM 0.095 Dividend Detail
20-May-2014 02-Jun-2014 DIVIDEND Interim Dividend RM 0.01 Dividend Detail

hahaha....as expected...if wan the share climb up...just shhhh...no nid promote too hard

lol....got hard promoter for this share...habis....sure down more soon~

No easy to take ytlp to private, ytl is trying, but this ytlp just simply too big to consume~

how many share swap to issue....they even cancelled 250 million treasury share back in year 2013...but after tat ntg else can be done...

just keep on press down this share, but no further actions...

Now ady got pro setting tp for ytl 0.5-0.7...

Very soon will got ppl comment ytl gonna be PN4...

I observed one thing weird...tis forun,when some1 start shouting which share can buy, 90% the share will drop...and when some1 set a very low target price...the share normally will keep climbing...lol

lol...chg management faster~

think ytl & ytlp prices been intentionally press down~

by this year end shd be more active

Ytl...when gonna boost to RM2??