Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2015-01-18 11:24 | Report Abuse

Dear Haan,
I suggest you sort the information according to highest profit gain % sequence so that everyone is excited to see who is top scorer currently.
Thank you for your good work.

Posted by talkcock > 2015-01-18 15:53 | Report Abuse

mr tan , sorry for late , my portfolio , thanks .

http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/pfs/42840.jsp?group1TabIndex=0&group2TabIndex=0

thanks

Posted by Collin Soo > 2015-01-18 18:50 | Report Abuse

who is the top winner for time being?

Posted by jester > 2015-01-19 12:34 | Report Abuse

Great Job Haan.

Really appreciate a supportive person like you in i3.
OTB is right, sorting the % is great for everyone.

A lot of of participants competing with each other can see their current standing. I believe there some who competes with their own self *like me* or have their own personal target. All and all, it is good to know how you stand against mass public in regards to investment.


Thank you Haan.

Posted by Haan > 2015-01-19 15:07 | Report Abuse

@Mr. Tan: I had created something the folks out there. I think this can serve as a benchmark for the participants. http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/pfs/42872share.jsp let me know if I should change the title or anything. I will create another for the self managed guys or I should incorporate into the same portfolio?

Interestingly if all 56 participants are fund managers for some investment firm (akin to mutual fund) they are performing better than the market since 31st December 2014 (I assumed all shares are bought on or before that day); where Bursa has drop 0.6% (1761.25 vs 1750.36(at the time of writing)) whereas 56 participants total combined portfolio has ROI of 6%.

Anyone has any comments on this?

Posted by Tan KW > 2015-01-19 15:12 | Report Abuse

@Haan I am not able to access http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/pfs/42872share.jsp

Posted by ss20_20 > 2015-01-19 15:16 | Report Abuse

Haan: I hope the self-managed and the shared-profile could be incorporate in too.

Posted by Haan > 2015-01-19 15:27 | Report Abuse

@Collin: The top 5 leader are (as per last week's closing)
1.Up_down
2.dragonking
3.Bs1688
4.Ooi Teik Bee
5.bb55

Posted by Haan > 2015-01-19 15:28 | Report Abuse

@Tan KW: here is the updated link for portfolio managed by you. I have deleted the old file and re-uploaded it https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dh7DaUFWgFhxdiQYVkO39mvB8MnYoEVYBgzJ-GRi9FI/edit?usp=sharing

Posted by Haan > 2015-01-19 15:30 | Report Abuse

@Tan KW: http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/pfs/42872.jsp this should be the correct link

Posted by Haan > 2015-01-19 15:34 | Report Abuse

@ss20_20: For the weekly ranking the self manage is also incorporated into the Main file. I need to split it into two workbook if not too many sheets and excel will crash. I will include the shared portfolio too.

Obviously I can't updated it weekly but I will try. so if there is any volunteer please LINE me or any other messaging apps; I will add the edit rights to the google docs. LINE:haanloong

Posted by Tan KW > 2015-01-19 15:38 | Report Abuse

@Haan, thanks!

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2015-01-19 15:59 | Report Abuse

Dear Haan,
Suggest you need to update top 5 on weekly report, not necessary to do all.
Final decision is yours.
Thank you.

Posted by ss20_20 > 2015-01-19 16:04 | Report Abuse

@Haan:ok, thanks a lot!

Posted by jester > 2015-01-20 11:52 | Report Abuse

Superb Job Haan.

Posted by Lagunablade > 2015-01-20 19:46 | Report Abuse

Hello, Mr. Tan. this are my pick of the year 2015
the reason of my pick are conclusion of many comments (on discussion threads) from each of the counter, and some minimum fundamental analysis, the price of each share can be the closing price on 20/1/2015

CHINWEL 10%
COASTAL 10%
FLBHD 10%
INSAS 10%
IQGROUP 10%
KSL 10%
POHUAT 10%
TAMBUN 10%
TUNEINS 10%
WTK 10%

note : my friend invite me to join the competition for fun

Posted by Tan KW > 2015-01-20 21:20 | Report Abuse

@Lagunablade, the competition is closed.

Posted by HJey > 2015-01-20 22:03 | Report Abuse

A lot of participants this time. Well good luck

Posted by tjhldg > 2015-01-20 22:53 | Report Abuse

heheheee hjey .. sailang all 100k in yee lee ka ? kikikikiiii

Posted by Lagunablade > 2015-01-21 13:15 | Report Abuse

@Tan KW, ok, next time I'll join earlier.
thanks for organizing the competition,
I found it very informative.

Posted by valuelurker > 2015-01-21 13:57 | Report Abuse

Some of the investment ideas are starting to pay off...

Posted by Tan KW > 2015-01-21 14:01 | Report Abuse

@Lagunablade , welcome.

you may want to refer to this post - http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/kianweiaritcles/37193.jsp if you want to create your own portfolio

Posted by valuelurker > 2015-01-22 12:04 | Report Abuse

Can I make my portfolio private @Tan KW

Posted by itsart > 2015-01-22 12:46 | Report Abuse

may i ask why i become Self managed portfolio, rather than participant ? may be being omitted in participant list ?

Posted by Tan KW > 2015-01-22 13:47 | Report Abuse

@valuelurker, do you mean the portfolio listed in here? Or, your own managed portfolio?

I can help to remove your portfolio if you do not want to participate.

valuelurker Can I make my portfolio private @Tan KW
22/01/2015 12:04

Posted by Tan KW > 2015-01-22 13:48 | Report Abuse

@itsart, your portfolio is manage by you instead of me. that's why you are in the self manage group.

itsart may i ask why i become Self managed portfolio, rather than participant ? may be being omitted in participant list ?

Posted by Haan > 2015-01-24 14:29 | Report Abuse

Hello ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, brothers and sisters, aunties and uncles; results for week 4 has been updated. Last weeks top performers has become this weeks top loser. Enjoy the results. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dh7DaUFWgFhxdiQYVkO39mvB8MnYoEVYBgzJ-GRi9FI/edit?usp=sharing

Posted by Haan > 2015-01-24 14:30 | Report Abuse

@itart: can you please insert a 100k cash transaction into your account so i can include your results more easily?

Posted by trustme > 2015-01-25 19:32 | Report Abuse

hi haan , thanks a lot for the update . can please sort the ranking for the first 56 participants information separately according to highest profit gain % sequence .
because i find out there are participants in top 10 list , picked the counters on later date but using the price of year end closed . seem not fair to many to include them .
just a small suggestion .

Thank you for your good work

Posted by AhHuatKopi > 2015-01-25 21:09 | Report Abuse

thanks Haan , superb job .

Posted by klsetitan > 2015-01-26 00:15 | Report Abuse

Appreciate ur hardwork Haan... Well done

Posted by fortunecheat > 2015-01-26 07:28 | Report Abuse

This is cheating. It is ok to enter late. But enter on 15 January 2015 and used 31 dec 2014 prices as original cost gave the cheater a massive 15% overnight gain

Cheating is cheating, no matter how you explained it

This really jeopardize the competition. Next year who wants to participate in the competition anymore ?

Posted by Haan > 2015-01-26 08:48 | Report Abuse

@fortunecheat: If you have time to accuse people of cheating please grow some balls and use your real ID.

Posted by valuelurker > 2015-01-26 16:52 | Report Abuse

Hindsight is 20/20.

Let's put it this way - to the players wanting to join, why don't you choose stocks that have lost >20% in value since 31 Dec 2014, deemed 'undervalued' and then see if you end up winning?

Use closing prices when you enter, and you can enter whenever you like, even 6 months into the year when its certain what the effects of oil price decline, declining RM has on Malaysian companies

Posted by Yu Jin > 2015-01-27 14:07 | Report Abuse

balance cash 10,563.98 , buy 4000 unit of Bjfood-wa. @2.17 /unit.
after balance RM 1,863.69

Posted by Yu Jin > 2015-01-27 14:11 | Report Abuse

received dividend from
1) INSAS Ex date 23/1/15, 18,800 units x RM 0.01 = RM188 ( Payment date 25/2/15)
2) MYEG Ex date 06/1/15, 7,000 units x RM 0.02 = RM140 ( Payment date 06/2/15)

Posted by Tan KW > 2015-01-28 16:39 | Report Abuse

@Yu Jin, please refer to my comments on
http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/pfs/41731.jsp

Posted by Lagunablade > 2015-01-29 20:00 | Report Abuse

@Tan KW this is the portfolio I created just now using today(29 Jan) closing price, I hope it is acceptable because today seem to be good day to enter

http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/pfs/43363.jsp

Posted by valuelurker > 2015-01-30 17:23 | Report Abuse

This competition needs to be on a risk-adjusted-return basis. Then true performance can be measured.

As it is, 90% of picks are obscure, risky small caps with no moats. Any company that has revenues of less than RM200m can be wiped out easily - if you own an SME you'd know.

This also to eliminate the dimwits with just a one or two picks, or those littered with call options.

Posted by valuelurker > 2015-01-30 17:32 | Report Abuse

Sharpe ratio, this is how to do it - http://www.ehow.com/how_6470845_calculate-risk-adjusted-return.html

One of you guys can come up with an article to teach the rest of these "investors" what risk-adjusted-returns mean and why it matters - http://finance.yahoo.com/news/measure-portfolios-performance-222226627.html

The rest of you can thank me later

Posted by inwest88 > 2015-01-30 18:10 | Report Abuse

Hi KW and OTB - hope you are doing fine. Have not been in i3 for quite a while but will gladly compile the results as requested. Give me a short while.

Posted by inwest88 > 2015-01-30 18:39 | Report Abuse

RESULTS AFTER Round 1
Category A -The Main Competition (56 participants)
- a very interesting contest with a total of 87 contestants in the two categories
- thanks to KW Tan for taking the effort to organize and OTB for sponsoring the prizes
- bs1688 is at the top of the rankings at the end of the first month with 25.1% gains
- bb55 is a close second, just less than 2 percentage points away
- not surprisingly, OTB is third at the moment

Posted by inwest88 > 2015-01-30 18:42 | Report Abuse

Category A - Main Competition
1 Bs1688  25.12%
2 bb55  23.73%
3 Ooi Teik Bee  21.89%
4 tkp1  20.11%
5 Snipper  19.51%
6 lbkeat 19.31%
7 CFTrader  18.18%
8 soojinhou  16.82%
9 Firebird2  16.35%
10 I Investor 15.35%
11 gohkimhock  14.95%
12 tjhldg 14.93%
13 JayC  14.17%
14 Collin Soo  13.29%
15 Icon8888  12.89%
16 valuelurker  12.85%
17 mrk2ca  12.37%
18 paperplane  11.70%
19 NOBY  11.25%
20 Tee Tom  10.65%
21 mahorse  9.98%
22 johnkiew  9.71%
23 fayeTan 9.69%
24 alexchua  9.58%
25 jester   9.45%
26 YiStock  9.17%
27 benson911  9.02%
28 skygrass  8.56%
29 JENNY6088  8.31%
30 value88  7.89%
31 willian88  7.77%
32 EWTrader  7.26%
33 SS661M  6.27%
34 Tan KW  5.75%
35 Yu Jin  5.58%
36 dragonking  5.41%
37 screwdriver  5.18%
38 bukithot 5.13%
39 johnny cash  4.73%
40 loobeetheng  4.71%
41 vaentec  4.51%
42 JeevS  4.45%
43 AhHuatKopi  4.25%
44 WiseEye 3.62%
45 ngyl  3.10%
46 爱丽丝 梦幻世界  2.96%
47 valueguru  2.94%
48 calow1  2.13%
49 851815  0.95%
50 goldenluck16 0.43%
51 Peter Lee  0.28%
52 Albt0555  0.22%
53 Up_down  -6.03%
54 skyland  -7.19%
55 林俊松  -7.29%
56 LuvLuv  -7.81%

Posted by inwest88 > 2015-01-30 18:43 | Report Abuse

Category B - The Self-Managed Portfolio (21 participants)
- in this section, the honors go to yeongyih76 with a return of 28.4%, even higher bs1688 in Category A
- a distant second comes ACELEE, with a yield of 16.3%
- shine at 13.9% occupies the 3rd position for the time being

Posted by inwest88 > 2015-01-30 18:44 | Report Abuse

Category B - Self-Managed Portfolio
1 yeongyih76  28.36%
2 ACELEE 16.33%
3 shine  13.93%
4 Insider_Tips 11.72%
5 miketyu  9.71%
6 ss20_20  8.97%
7 hanburger1028 8.74%
8 DrTan  8.49%
9 tonychopper  8.34%
10 trustme  8.08%
11 Horsefield  7.63%
12 doll 7.20%
13 TangKhangsenf 6.90%
14 itsart 6.50%
15 Jee Foh 5.35%
16 I3WL  4.44%
17 jordannlim  3.68%
18 stickypoop 1.12%
19 Snowden 0.47%
20 lookingaround  0.11%
21 imoogi99 -0.14%

Posted by inwest88 > 2015-01-30 18:46 | Report Abuse

Only 5 out of the total of 87 participants managed to achieve more than 20% returns and co-incidentally also 5 people are currently showing losses - a creditable performance indeed

Posted by inwest88 > 2015-01-30 18:47 | Report Abuse

Just for information purposes.
1 Haan 17.60%
2 fortunebullz 16.53%
3 feiloh 4.72%
4 talkcock 0.76%

Posted by sangharimauu > 2015-01-31 00:08 | Report Abuse

valuelurker 这个家伙是什么东西? 等你的成绩进前5名才来说教好吗，现在排名第16说这些鸟话

不觉得没资格而感到不好意思吗 ? 有一句话 .. 献丑不如藏拙 ，不懂吗?


Posted by valuelurker > Jan 30, 2015 05:23 PM | Report Abuse

This competition needs to be on a risk-adjusted-return basis. Then true performance can be measured.

As it is, 90% of picks are obscure, risky small caps with no moats. Any company that has revenues of less than RM200m can be wiped out easily - if you own an SME you'd know.

This also to eliminate the dimwits with just a one or two picks, or those littered with call options

Posted by valuelurker > Jan 30, 2015 05:32 PM | Report Abuse

Sharpe ratio, this is how to do it - http://www.ehow.com/how_6470845_calculate-risk-adjusted-return.html

One of you guys can come up with an article to teach the rest of these "investors" what risk-adjusted-returns mean and why it matters - http://finance.yahoo.com/news/measure-portfolios-performance-222226627.html

The rest of you can thank me later



thank you for what ? prove yourself first ok ? what a big mouth !

Posted by sangharimauu > 2015-01-31 00:15 | Report Abuse

Thanks inwest 88 for updating the monthly result in the most correct way to many silent reader like me to learn from the top performer pick that base on the rule and regulation of this game . well done and appreciated much .

Posted by truthseeker1 > 2015-01-31 00:26 | Report Abuse

If follow the result, is IFCA(picked by top 2) a good buy?