PUNCAK NIAGA HOLDINGS BHD

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Last Price

0.26

Today's Change

+0.03 (13.04%)

Day's Change

0.25 - 0.26

Trading Volume

230,700


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24,497 comment(s). Last comment by NRahmat 13 hours ago

rogers123

4,018 posts

Posted by rogers123 > 2016-12-19 18:10 | Report Abuse

hng: Before puncak declare dividend is 2.80++ today is 0.90++.
Will triplc be the same track as puncak? Later become 0.90++ also?

hng33

20,474 posts

Posted by hng33 > 2016-12-19 18:40 | Report Abuse

Please take note, clown roger123, you must first buy triplc first before you can sell at 2.32 these morning. The question, is since when you ever buy triplc at what price ler, just posted here your buy record in forum comment here in order to justify your comment in these forum that you can sold at 2.32 these morning lolllll

hng33

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Posted by hng33 > 2016-12-19 20:14 | Report Abuse

I still remenber when portfolio sold off all puncak, lock all profit at that time after puncak declare special dividend, many people here, particular kahhoeng question my action to sell Puncak after Special dividend declare loh.... despite my effort to explain and emphase to you that important on only realize profit is real profit, but kahhoeng and others still wanna insist on puncak still high cash hoard even after special dividend.

These have prompted me to obstrain any further post in puncak since then to avoid offend those opt to keep hold for special dividend. Remenber kahhoeng ? If not, go and re check back earlier my post on Puncak after special dividend declare 2 year ago....

hng33

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Posted by hng33 > 2016-12-19 20:41 | Report Abuse

Kahhoeng

About your concern over triplc, you just need to read its annual earning during its first construction concession from 2012 to 2014. Triplc have record massive NET PROFIT total RM 71 m during 3 year construction period for its first concession worth RM 266m. Implying net profit margin of 26.7%.

Assuming about similar net profit margin on second concession but at double up worth of contract RM 599m, triplc stand to reap NET PROFIT of RM 160m, to be average divided into 3 year construction period, worth RM 53.3m pa for 3 year. Based on Puncak share volume 449m, these annual net profit will give rise to EPS 11.8 sen for consecutive 3 year under construction period.

If top up with first concession annual pretax profit about RM 12 m pa for 20 year, how much? Let's assume net profit for first concession is about half or RM 7m, combined together with construction profit RM 53m, triplc alone will contribute net profit RM 60m pa for Puncak, or EPS 13.4 sen

tenmil

98 posts

Posted by tenmil > 2016-12-19 21:00 | Report Abuse

Sensible analysis from Kahhoeng, thank you. If i may add, the second concession come with low cost financing in place, the construction period will not drain the cash holding of Puncak. Plenty of bullets left for other concession. Kelantan water privatization?

kahhoeng

3,950 posts

Posted by kahhoeng > 2016-12-19 21:04 | Report Abuse

hng33, I sincerely hope you are shooting the right guy here. I am not Roger that curse you here and there. I do know that you were suggesting us to sell around 2 before special dividend and I never curse you or blame you for in and out of Puncak knowing well that you are good at trading, making money in the process (I actually admire you for that, if you have read my earlier comments here about your trading skills. I have also mentioned that I am terrible with short term trades, having to over-analyze before selling.) While there may be some trading opportunities along deals announced by Puncak, I do have my reservation about the deals so far. (BTW, I didn't sell and regret that because reading Rozali's characters wrongly.)

While not happy about the announced impairments, I am more concerned about recent ventures, particularly I don't like Rozali latest moves in plantation and TRIPLC. I have shown my work on the plantation deal here earlier, so I shall leave this out. On TRIPLC, to me, reported profit is only part of the equation, the cash flow statement and balance sheet are equally important. And I am not particularly fancy about TRIPLC's cash flow statement or balance sheet.

19/12/2016 21:02

rogers123

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Posted by rogers123 > 2016-12-19 21:22 | Report Abuse

Hng33: i am not tat stupid to tell people i am buying if i know this stock will move. An real investor will buy silentlly.

rogers123

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Posted by rogers123 > 2016-12-19 21:23 | Report Abuse

If i tell everyone i am buying. Do u think the syndicates wanna push up for u to sell?

rogers123

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Posted by rogers123 > 2016-12-19 21:25 | Report Abuse

I told everyone i was buying puncak today bec i wanna prove to everyone tat puncak buying triplc at rm3 is a bad decision

rogers123

4,018 posts

Posted by rogers123 > 2016-12-19 21:28 | Report Abuse

If u wanna prove i have triplc or not, very easy only. Contact me. If is real, i hope u better keep quiet of telling people when u buy n when u sell. U mislead people.

rogers123

4,018 posts

Posted by rogers123 > 2016-12-19 21:37 | Report Abuse

Hng: last advice. Dont do sin alot. U understand wat u r doing now. Ur job is singkalan, but u better quit. U can earn alot of money for doing singkalan. But one day u have to pay for wat u have done.

rogers123

4,018 posts

Posted by rogers123 > 2016-12-19 21:43 | Report Abuse

Hng: i caught u one time before. When i bought all the queue volume at certain price, u published tat u had just bought at that particular price too. I thought i have made mistake. But i checked, all volume r done in my account. But u told everyone tat u just bought it at the same price like me. After this case, i realized tat u r lying, i don trust u anymore.

rogers123

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Posted by rogers123 > 2016-12-19 21:47 | Report Abuse

Hng: puncak declare dividend is not last two year. Is last year. Hahaha

rogers123

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Posted by rogers123 > 2016-12-19 22:04 | Report Abuse

Hng: The first time i saw ur comments, i was really impress. Then i followed ur comments in every forum. Gradually, i found out tat, u r "too kind" to share the info.I started to feel doubted about it. As my understanding, i am dare to say no one will share their hardwork research with other poeple if u know tat ur supernormal profit will share with others who did nothing but get a free info. Secondly, ur research is too perfect, except u r CFA or CPA graduated. Third, U can do research for so many companies at one time, this cant be done by one person, need a team. Lastly, the stock u always promote did not create new high after u announced u have sold it. Most of them felt badly. If the fundamental is so strong, can it be easily changed in a year?

rogers123

4,018 posts

Posted by rogers123 > 2016-12-19 22:06 | Report Abuse

If anyone dont believe, check hng promoted stocks. U will realize something

firehawk

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Posted by firehawk > 2016-12-19 22:28 | Report Abuse

calm a bit ..take it a bit easy ...

hng33

20,474 posts

Posted by hng33 > 2016-12-19 23:11 | Report Abuse

Too bad lor, these clown roger123 still cannot answer simplest question here? Where you ever post here you buy triplc before, at what price also known nothing at all? Now, today suddenly self claim have sold triplc at 2.32 lollll, bear in mind, you cannot short sell triplc ler!!!

rogers123 Hng33: i am not tat stupid to tell people i am buying if i know this stock will move. An real investor will buy silentlly.
19/12/2016 21:22

Only idiot can self claim have sold something that he never bough before lollll, since when you known triplc will move ler, if you clown roger123 self claim as real investor will buy silently, why today, these clown chase Puncak at 94 sen ler.

rogers123 Will continue chase
19/12/2016 09:22

rogers123 Hng: Put ur sell at 0.94. Will buy all. The volume at 0.94 is too low

A typical self twisting clown roger123 <----- pity

hng33

20,474 posts

Posted by hng33 > 2016-12-19 23:15 | Report Abuse

Bear in mind, clown roger123, if you keep twisting fact, keep on telling lie, spreading untruth factual, you will be BACKFIRE.

rogers123

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Posted by rogers123 > 2016-12-20 00:25 | Report Abuse

Hng: How u wan me to prove. If i can prove it. I hope u shut ur mouth in the future

sell

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Posted by sell > 2016-12-20 03:22 | Report Abuse

hng33 cut loss in Prolexus but face more losses in Triplc and Puncak. roger123 I support you. hng33 only a liar.

hng33 Cut loss Polexus, swap to buy Puncak at 92.5sen and triplc at 2.17 and 2.19, to recoup back loss in prolexus
19/12/2016 10:28

sell

2,456 posts

Posted by sell > 2016-12-20 03:26 | Report Abuse

Base on yesterday trade hng33 made 3 loss trade and more if include commission. Only his remiser like him. Ask dompeilee whether true.

voon1900

714 posts

Posted by voon1900 > 2016-12-20 06:08 | Report Abuse

so many comments..save the talk...puncak is FALLING n tat is the fact...hng prepare to cut loss coz big fish cn oso c forum here n push dwn the price until u fear n then it x move at all ...u wil force to cut loss...trust my sense though i am a newbie too

steveooikp

4,689 posts

Posted by steveooikp > 2016-12-20 07:20 | Report Abuse

why rogers123, voon1900, sell..... all want puncak to down leh?

r°Moi

5,802 posts

Posted by r°Moi > 2016-12-20 08:17 | Report Abuse

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r°Moi is lazy... no check and see... just use hng33s figures only



53 53 53 21 21 21 = 222



If hng33s figures have the accuracy..


At 210.. PE about 6 only



Sweetheart concession deal for crony.. high profitibility?




If can... hng33... check against the below and see...



the range of indicative value for the entire equity interest of TRIplc of between RM191.53 million and RM230.31 million, as appraised by FHMH Corporate Advisory Sdn Bhd (“FHCA”), an independent valuer,



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r°Moi

5,802 posts

Posted by r°Moi > 2016-12-20 08:21 | Report Abuse

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Anyway.. still a no to rozali... for this RPT.. which aims to bail himself out only...



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hng33

20,474 posts

Posted by hng33 > 2016-12-20 09:39 | Report Abuse

Clown roger123 still unable to show when he buy triplc and at what price, cited bad excuse that he buy silently, but shout to chase Puncak at 94sen, real clown twisting head and twisting tail, one lie cover by another 9 lie still as liar lolllll... keep on telling lie, spreading untruth factual, you will be BACKFIRE.

steveooikp

4,689 posts

Posted by steveooikp > 2016-12-20 09:43 | Report Abuse

hng33, rogers123, stockraider, r0Moi,kahheong, firehawk (not sure).

we are now on the same starcruise....

let us hope puncak up up up .....

hng33

20,474 posts

Posted by hng33 > 2016-12-20 09:49 | Report Abuse

As active trader, sell to lock profit, sell to cut loss, swap capital, buy on weakness are all normal course of trading strategy. Like Yesterday, Portfolio lock all profit in TA, but cut loss in prolexus, swap capital to buy Puncak and triplc. Puncak now is portfolio top holding

hng33

20,474 posts

Posted by hng33 > 2016-12-20 09:56 | Report Abuse

Puncak currently incur loss due to poor execution of its construction division, as Puncak subcontract its contract to outsider, resulted cost overrun, breach contract, delay etc, it have cause Puncak to make huge provision loss in previous q.

Therefore, take over triplc is the best solution to revive Puncak construction division, to be its in house contractor + landbank + 2 long term concession.

Triplc after take over will be in next cash RM3/ share, upcoming circular is expect to include special dividend.

Posted by triplc69 > 2016-12-20 10:28 | Report Abuse

puncak is trading at dangerous levels...prepare to cut if it touches -.90 cts..it will break 85 next level v bearish..

stockraider

31,556 posts

Posted by stockraider > 2016-12-20 10:30 | Report Abuse

Puncak cannot fall below Rm 0.90 bcos Rozali need Tabung Haji support.
The chances of upside is higher

kahhoeng

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Posted by kahhoeng > 2016-12-20 11:02 | Report Abuse

selling at 0.90? biggest joke, I may and am suffering from losses, but to ask me to sell at 0.90 when cash is at 2.50? I would rather pursue SC for assistance, which is what I am doing now!

sell

2,456 posts

Posted by sell > 2016-12-20 13:06 | Report Abuse

Drop again. Meaning 4th qtr 2016 QR again loss?

sell

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Posted by sell > 2016-12-20 13:07 | Report Abuse

roger123 how do you see hng33 latest trade in Puncak? How he make money?

sell

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Posted by sell > 2016-12-20 13:10 | Report Abuse

Idiot trapped since RM 2.80? Can trust ks55?

Posted by ks55 > Dec 19, 2016 10:41 PM | Report Abuse
Who do you trust?

hng33?
http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/cube/post/hng33.jsp

rogers123?
http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/cube/rogers123.jsp

hng33

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Posted by hng33 > 2016-12-20 13:40 | Report Abuse

Lets refresh back memory on the date after Puncak declared special dividend and trading time action by portfolio, clean and clear, portfolio posted to get ready to lock profit at 8:56, time before market open and soon portfolio start selling and completed sold off all after 3 min later at 9:03, and Puncak-CG within 5 min after market open. Afterward, did some extra contra trading before ended exposure in Puncak as was distracted to swap to trade hisbicus at that time.


Posted by hng33 > Nov 2, 2015 08:26 PM | Report Abuse X

My estimation is at least 10% for puncak, and 30% for puncak cg. Of course, the more the better, but my target is to at least to repeat one more round of 6d windfall. Hahaha



Posted by hng33 > Nov 3, 2015 08:56 AM | Report Abuse X

Get ready to realize handsome profit, hahaha


Posted by hng33 > Nov 3, 2015 09:02 AM | Report Abuse X

Selling Puncak at 3.08


Posted by hng33 > Nov 3, 2015 09:03 AM | Report Abuse X

Yes, Sold off all Puncak at 3.07-3.08


Posted by hng33 > Nov 3, 2015 09:05 AM | Report Abuse X

Sold off all Puncak CG at 14-16sen


Posted by hng33 > Nov 3, 2015 12:55 PM | Report Abuse X

Hahaha, as always said here many many time, only realize profit is REAL profit. All stock is mean for trading, for reaping profit and as retail investor, we are absolutely free to buy, sell, buyback at any point of time. Buyer now can turn seller later and vice versa.....dun skeptical when come on selling time to reap profit..... but cheer when come on buying time to support.

Dun get emotional if share price can not meet desire target price, as share price is dynamic, and trading is best strategy to rolling more profit and accumulated profit is far more than what your desire target price already.

Keep complaining, talk cock on stock share price will yield nothing.....should focus on trading and extract profit from stock market which is the ONLY ultimate goal for investor here.

Posted by hng33 > Nov 3, 2015 09:01 PM | Report Abuse
Kahhoeng

As told here even before market start, get ready to be rewarded, and as expect since yesterday also for 10% gain in Puncak and 30% gain in Puncak cg, portfolio manage to sell all Puncak at 3.07 - 3.08, and sold Puncak cg even at higher margin at 14 - 16 sen.........then wait to buyback...., later, manage .bought back at 2.94 - 2.96, then sold back again at 2.98......then .....decided to continue keep exposure, buyback some at 2.96 again and was plan to wait to buyback more later on weakness......but.....distracted with hibiscus.....busy contra profiting trading on it........hahaha.

Posted by hng33 > Nov 3, 2015 09:20 PM | Report Abuse X

As always, once I sold Puncak at 3.07-3.08, many here start again to skeptical why sell...!??? .....then people start to complaining again on why Puncak cannot trade above RM 3.00..... Which in essential is why these people dun want to realize their profit when stock trade at 3.08... But curses and show desperate when puncak trade at 2.93......and recycle again again their disppointment.....desperate when puncak trade at 2.40, desperate also when puncak trade at 2.50... Then 2.60.... Then 2.70..... Then again unhappy after puncak trade at 2.80..... 2.90......3.00....never satisfied by realize profit and buyback......but only know to keep on show disppointment.....

Posted by hng33 > Nov 4, 2015 09:45 AM | Report Abuse X

I'm just on goodwill to tell since many are long term investor here.....but since cannot accept, i will abstain to give any more comment in Puncak thread. Wish all investor here

steveooikp

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Posted by steveooikp > 2016-12-20 13:44 | Report Abuse

since we are on the speed boat....
then we wait for puncak....
What RZK needs to do with those cash....
He should be prudent with his good experience...
if he wants to con the retailers.....
nothing we can do... and nothing we can analysis....

Do you need to analyze on MO 1 and his beautiful wife? No need right?

voon1900

714 posts

Posted by voon1900 > 2016-12-20 15:05 | Report Abuse

adui,pokai,menjunam

rogers123

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Posted by rogers123 > 2016-12-20 15:30 | Report Abuse

My target is 0.80. Where is the uptrend? Positive news? Hng

steveooikp

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Posted by steveooikp > 2016-12-20 15:33 | Report Abuse

rogers123...
since you are holding puncak...
why you want puncak 0.80?
you shd say ... puncak..RM 2....

hng33

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Posted by hng33 > 2016-12-20 15:36 | Report Abuse

Hahaha, clown roger123 alrdy cut loss for its 94 sen stake loh, now curse stock to 80 sen again. Wan proved? Clown roger123 will said, he sold ' silently' lollll

steveooikp

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Posted by steveooikp > 2016-12-20 17:25 | Report Abuse

rogers123 bought at 89 sen... if sold 93.5 sen... he aldy made money...
94 sen cannot sell... bcos not many lots... unless he Q early in the moring...

rogers123

4,018 posts

Posted by rogers123 > 2016-12-20 17:50 | Report Abuse

Hng: today the volume is so low. I wont cut loss. My average is 0.93-0.935. The lowest price i bought is 0.925

rogers123

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Posted by rogers123 > 2016-12-20 17:52 | Report Abuse

It will sell at 1.00 or cut loss at 13.5%

rogers123

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Posted by rogers123 > 2016-12-20 18:01 | Report Abuse

Write a comment..Stock: [PUNCAK]: PUNCAK NIAGA HOLDINGS BHD
Jul 1, 2016 06:00 PM | Report Abuse

Puncak will fall below 1 after the offer has revealed..... Kahhoeng, dont pengsan lor


Stock: [PUNCAK]: PUNCAK NIAGA HOLDINGS BHD
Jul 1, 2016 10:27 AM | Report Abuse

kahhoeng gonna fainted again


Stock: [PUNCAK]: PUNCAK NIAGA HOLDINGS BHD
Jul 1, 2016 10:27 AM | Report Abuse

Shock with triplc offer.... Too bad to puncak

kahhoeng

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Posted by kahhoeng > 2016-12-20 18:07 | Report Abuse

Quite frankly, except for hng33, I have seen none raising concern if Puncak's balance sheet is in good position, businesses acquired are good and will benefit shareholders, and so forth. Without good business in its coffer, do you think its wise to trade on Puncak's news?

To me, Puncak is still holding on to 2.50 cash per share and I sincerely believe cash is cash. It doesn't make sense to sell just because the deal is completed or share price is in terrible shape. Though, hng33 seems to take it differently. I respect that particularly after he's making good money over his trades.

My current take is as follow. Plantation deal is bad if compared to a recent deal, TRIPLC deal may not actually good to Puncak shareholders, don't like the operating cash flow figures but can't really conclude without doing a detailed analysis. Meanwhile, after reporting quarter after quarter of impairments, the board has basically kept silence without doing anything, share buy back or briefing through newspapers for example, to assuage minority shareholders that have been treated like disposal diapers.

Anyway, just releasing my disappointment...

rogers123

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Posted by rogers123 > 2016-12-20 18:34 | Report Abuse

A few questions to answer:
1. Y puncak acquire triplc?
2. Y triplc wan to sell its business to puncak? If the business has 20% profit from revenue?
3. Y puncak dont wanna to seek for new business instead of triplc?
4. After dispose, triplc dont have business anymore, wat triplc plan to do?
5. If triplc has a new business, instead of buying triplc y don puncak directly buy the business which triplc going to take over? Y the triplc business from RZL right hand changes to left hand?
6. Y don puncak and triplc merge together? Exchange share? Puncak can get triplc business, triplc can get puncak business? The company will grow stronger.
7. After the acquisition, will triplc buy land or business from puncak? Will puncak buy triplc, Peb buy puncak? Something weird. The transaction is keep changing in the box. Not outside the box? So funny? Who will get benefit in this process?
20/12/2016 18:33

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2016-12-20 18:40 | Report Abuse

ROGER123,

YOUR QUESTIONS ARE ALL VALID....!!
U MUST UNDERSTAND ROZALI...IS A CONMAN...MAH....!!

HE CREATE ANOTHER MINI PUNCAK ,THRU TRIPLC TO GASAK FROM MINORITY SHAREHOLDER OF TRIPLC LOH....!!
THE PROPOSAL ON TRIPLC HIGHLY BENEFITED ROZALI AT THE EXPENSE OF PUNCAK & TRIPLC LOH....!!

Posted by triplc69 > 2016-12-20 19:03 | Report Abuse

win-lose....rozali win...u guys lose..as simple as that triplc stands for wat ?

hng33

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Posted by hng33 > 2016-12-20 21:03 | Report Abuse

Kahhoeng

Don be so innocent loh, market perception is emphasize on company to report positive EPS, EPS growth rather than company holding cash hoard. Once, triplc start to recognized construction profit for its second concession on top of current exiting only maintenance phase profit from first concession, it will report huge jump in EPS, market will appreciate later the worth for Puncak to acquire Triplc.

If based on triplc earning during its first construction concession from 2012 to 2014. Triplc have record massive NET PROFIT total RM 71 m during 3 year construction period for its first concession worth RM 266m. Implying net profit margin of 26.7%, boosting its EPS to RM 1.10/share over cumulative 3 year construction period

Assuming about similar net profit margin on second concession but at double up worth of contract RM 599m, triplc stand to reap NET PROFIT of RM 160m, to be average divided into 3 year construction period, worth RM 53.3m pa for 3 year. , these annual net profit will give rise to about EPS 80 sen for triplc for consecutive 3 year under construction period.

The maiden construction profit should be able to start kick in early next year. However, triplc will be taken over by puncak afterwards, leaving cash RM 3/share to shelf company later.

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