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4 weeks ago | Report Abuse
From the PE ratio, definitely UEMS is overvalued, but refer to the analysis, the waves to 1++ are nit due to the making profits but its UEMS largest land holding in Iskandar area, UEMS almost hold most of development land in Medini, Kota Iskandar and Nusajaya area, the size is much bigger compared to total holding of other developers. the completion of Aspira phases, Tech park and surrounding area as Senadi, Medini new developments will bring to the future huge profit. However for UEMS, the controlled counters, no point to touch it, the moving only will be cobtrolled by sharks and never by market and retails
2022-01-22 22:06 | Report Abuse
@Investoz88, just silence on the cash on hand... It is good if 64c can happen...
2022-01-19 09:42 | Report Abuse
:-) now not good timing as before... But for holder also nothing to concern.. Check back all QR, Spm not as TG, all huge profit still kept in company, not going anywhere or given out as dividend.. So based on the profit, current stock price ady covered by the cash amount, even not counting the huge asset in Spm
2021-11-01 16:21 | Report Abuse
30+% tax, all profitable companies will leave Msia
2021-10-20 08:54 | Report Abuse
@king36 you really believe in Malaysia, role players play the roles? or "PLAY" the roles :-D
2021-10-18 14:38 | Report Abuse
Before last batch of ESOS, AT asset value should be between 10-15 cents, Board has used ESOS to indirect transfer out company asset to same geng and also used to buy other companies in premium. Actually this is not new tactics, just AT did bit over
2021-10-08 11:39 | Report Abuse
legal or illegal, immoral or not are different things... last year there are quite a huge number of PP and ESOS that is 18c above, so now AT buying overvalued company is to transfer out asset to cover all these proxies? when plan to invest glove and proper biz, AT board will take months to initiate, but buying those overvalued and bad trade, it can be done internally? Think twice.. AT got how many employees? Those ESOS is bought by real employee, or just the proxy account that put under company? it claimed it always good investment and patience, but newbies... do research b4 invest, how many big dump happened, how many ESOS created? you are really trust a company giving out so many cheap tickets to do charity? Dont put urself in risky
2021-10-08 10:41 | Report Abuse
This is very clear that AT use ESOS to create more cheaper tickets then dump to public. After getting all this money, they can easily transfer out from company by buying those over-valued company. Dont listen to any cheerers or haters, all these just want to make AT look hot, but actually just try to con the newbies to dump money in. No point to beg or put wish on SC will do anything, this is the reality, the one u can do is to avoid from "gamble" in this kind of stocks
2021-10-07 16:43 | Report Abuse
actually currently AT got more assets and cash, but the board misuse the PP, ESOS to dilute the value and buying other company with expensive price to transfer out company asset...
This ady a criminal behavior, but the SC blindly approve the action to damage BURSA and retailers. estimate they will keep perform all these to dilute and transfer out all asset and cash. Better go for other heathier market than this corrupted and immoral market
2021-09-20 16:59 | Report Abuse
This is Msia culture, buy expensive.. FINTech group learn from that, so SC view, it is not curruption, but buy expensive :-) Prepare the shoes to throw in General... wakaka
2021-09-15 12:23 | Report Abuse
the same group entry other stocks at very low price then fried until high price, now get AT to buy at super high price and transfer out AT fund also..
2021-09-14 19:32 | Report Abuse
Thats funny.. cursing useless la... why dont plan a demon... :-D
2021-09-13 16:30 | Report Abuse
:-) Other company make investment, at least will decorate a bit.. AT board always buy expensive, Trive, Adrion, now again.. when do glove investment, have to open general, drag this drag there.. now buy something super expensive just direct offer... super funny
2021-09-04 13:01 | Report Abuse
AT in high risk and no future... Target to give the power to Board to continue issue new shares up to 10% and it could be a continuous process in future.. AT also not revert back to existing QR announce date which should be in August. Currently AT price actually is under fair value, BT the Board behavior on misuse the funds, dilute the EPS and too many internal group process could never gain any retailers' trust. From time beings, AT is more as COST center in FINTECH group.
2021-07-13 14:06 | Report Abuse
@Gtrade, Fintec and AT not a good choice, but ur calculation wrong, 165m is acceptance of option, not exercise.
2020-12-31 22:42 | Report Abuse
same pattern all the ways... Director keep selling warrants... If director also no confident warrant can hit price, how the other holders have confident to LH?
2020-12-08 21:52 | Report Abuse
AT PP considered complete. Based on the NOSH on 17/11 to 20/11 which is 3.26B, currently AT has raised total 656m PP, already hit 20% of NOSH. The balance 93m PP only be applied if all warrants/options/SIS (494m) complete.
2020-12-05 14:41 | Report Abuse
Money is urs, no one force to buy any shares. If find for short term surge, get those popular hot stocks will be better choice, but u might get burned also. If for long term investment, then better understand the fundamental and future plan, up and down for stock price just the norm.
No point to fight at forum, if u against the flow or against the operator, u may depressd but still in hand for long term
2020-12-05 12:37 | Report Abuse
So upset that i3 forum that supposed to be a site to share idea, info and professional TA.
However now it becomes a site that seems like a warzone between cheerers and haters.
Firstly the investment should be the personal decision, no point to finger point who is right or wrong, even WB also lost in investment.
For AT, first we take off all goreng facts, honestly all popular stocks have the operators, we all know it, and operators wont simply choose a rubbish stock too.
From the fundamental, AT is a heavy stock, currently 3.4B, and may up to 4.5B maximum, then is AT a loss making company..?
-> Yes, but turn green at the latest QR, AT also not the type of badly loss making, still green asset company.
AT doing glove, good decision?
-> Yes, AT does not use company fund or even selling company asset to build the lines, actually all cost include land, building, machines, materials all come from PP.
-> It means the whole new glove production line is totally new asset for AT without any debts and borrowings.
-> Without any glove manufactured, this asset already given AT 9.0c value, not yet include AT initial asset that cost 5-7c value. AT precision manufacturing could get a better value and output after covid, due to the positive movement of tech stocks, the future income at least can double the AT value.
Below is the worst scenario for medical glove... but even that, AT still highly expected
-> now back to AT glove profit, with simply take 75% of production output and ASP USD 80.00, AT could achieve easily 600m++ PBT in Year 2020, Excluded the high PE, with standard 10X PE, it means AT could reach 57-65c target in 2020
-> In Year 2021, with simply take 75% of production output and ASP USD 60.00, with 10X PE, AT is valued at 62-70c in Year 2021
Everyone hates PP, but sincerely AT now can rework its precision manufacturing and start medical glove production with amost zero debt, all incoming sales will turn into profit.
-> Yes, the price might be pressed down, but the company profit will be the sunrise..
If you are a short term trader, you may lost money in AT
But if you are long term investor, the fundamental will at least secure your capital, the company is there, the production is there and also the profit is expected there.
2020-11-16 20:48 | Report Abuse
moderna test samples = 95 people, is it joke?
2020-11-05 15:01 | Report Abuse
and currently AT cash on hand shud be around 120m, shud be no any stopper to setup all 13 production lines
2020-11-05 15:00 | Report Abuse
all these esos and warrants ady raised before, so shud be expected exercise. The pending non-converted should be around 300m+
2020-11-05 13:45 | Report Abuse
I3 shud be a forum for experience, proffessional investors. pls share the info with solid news and technical analysis, not talk brainless limit up and run, either cheerers or haters.
2020-11-04 12:07 | Report Abuse
Please take note, DT leads in 85% battleground, high chance to win over Biden
2020-10-23 17:56 | Report Abuse
by calculation. no more PP since no new listing after agm, the only listing will be up to 160m SIS option
2020-10-23 17:30 | Report Abuse
SHARE CONVERT CHANGE NOSH PP MAX NOSH MAX NON-CONVERT OPTION CASH
20200917 2,266,568,008 795,924,000 2,653,080,000 386,511,992
20200930 200,000,000 200,000,000 2,466,568,008 386,511,992
20201008 200,000,000 200,000,000 2,666,568,008 386,511,992
20201014 30,000,000 30,000,000 2,696,568,008 386,511,992
20201019 30,000 30,000 2,696,598,008 386,481,992
20201019 547,281,992 160,800,000
20201020 249,970,000 249,970,000 2,946,568,008 547,281,992 80,000,000
2020-10-23 17:29 | Report Abuse
386m warrants may not converted in short time.. the only new listing will be SIS that is total 160m
2020-10-23 17:25 | Report Abuse
Without further announcement, AT should be no more PP, currently AT with NOSH 295m, having nearly 550m non-converted option/warrants, and around 80m cash. No more PP without new conversion.
2020-10-16 09:26 | Report Abuse
very simple, feel not worth and not confident, invest others, no point to stuck at a dead fish... Those believers, dreamers, boosters, cheerers just keep hold or buy until year end... others just sit and watch AT movie, let see its happy ending or sad ending..
2020-10-15 21:41 | Report Abuse
Think twice before invest,Bursa not only one stock..
At might really want to develop the company, but since 2020, what else the Board done other than double up the issuance? All MOU going to be aborted and extended, mutually agree? Pressing down the price? Dont say all not related to the Board...
However no point to argue, the retailers never can do anything, just stand beside and see.. Has the Board really sincerely explain to the share holders? Never, their answer just an answer to the Bursa, nothing solid inside.. If all MOUs just aborted without any explaination, how the Board treat the company management? Their own asset?
2020-10-14 00:31 | Report Abuse
For those PPs that managed by Mercury to FinTec related companies include AT, no any restriction found in the PP proposal. As the example, AT cant raise more than 10% PP in one time, so separated into 4/5 batches, that causing the PP subscribers can keep pressing the price to get cheaper tickets. For long term, its good to raise a fund for company, but it may give more power to same geng (if any) to proceed with consolidation or privatize. From EGM, its easily can see most of AT share holders not involve (either shares centralized to certain group or retailers too small). Current price ady too late to perform "Sell and Wait",, may just waiting 2-3 weeks for PP completion and early Dec on glove production.
For me, I have sold all, and just monitor whether worth to entry in coming one month.. Besides Bursa have lot of opportunities, no point to just focus in AT if not confident to the Board, at least until now there is no any reason should hold AT for long term when the Board action hard to convince the share holders or retailers.
2020-10-13 21:08 | Report Abuse
Operator manipulation might be the most possibility.. Based on the dump within these few months, there is clearly huge amount in certain day to block the uptrend, the volume not possibly done by retailers. Besides PP holder dump the shares not just to earn small profit, but press down the price to get cheaper tickets in coming batches. Based on all those actions, cant 100% conclude the geng is Board or Board related, but the possibility will be the highest.
The director might not dispose, but not limited on the people around him, group.
For me, still think it will be a geng to try make a take over on AT with huge PP, ESOS and SIS. The size of issuance since the new Board, is already 4 times of initial issuance. If the "geng" controls 70% of the issuance, means AT ady under control, then the proce manipulation for cheaper PP will be reasonable. Example, get 200m PP, then throw 30% / 60m to press the price for cheaper PP, with a profit.
2020-10-12 14:52 | Report Abuse
Some misunderstanding on AT cash flow.. After the latest QR AT have 4m on hand, but that is not included warrant conversion, ESOS and SIS after that QR financial calendar..
After ESOS /SIS on 7.5c and 9.0c plus warrant, AT should have extra 44m, make it total 48m. The fund is more than enough for PG and the setup of production line until Feb 2021.
Then come with the question, why AT still need PP?? To purchase others? to do further setup? Unless AT wish to speed up the production line setup of glove production, else I really cant find a reason AT create 795m PP which is not urgent. It could create PP with much higher and better price once first phase of glove production ready.
2020-10-09 16:14 | Report Abuse
after sold AT son, the waiting time ady made profit in Danco son, Caely son and Salcon son... Here still chit chat between cheerers and haters... Or finally might be just same geng to create topic for newbies to come in.. :-D
2020-10-09 16:12 | Report Abuse
:-) punish 10k, when they are making 10m profit?
2020-10-08 20:47 | Report Abuse
but the funny is the same tactics used for many months, still lot of pl giving high expectations and cheers on AT. There are no any changes even next week, coz PP still on going, and the cheap RTO still running.. Any good news only will be transferred to PP subscribers - might be same gang, and never the retailers... Due to this movement, why dont only buy in when everything is solid..
2020-10-07 16:37 | Report Abuse
This is not first time AT do like this, AT also not the first company its Board did that, furthermore, the operator not first time pressing down the price. but all of you still went in, failure sometimes come after high expectation. From history, can expect even PG acquired, the price also stuck
2020-10-07 14:59 | Report Abuse
honestly, when a stock kept dumping when there is good news, ask yourself first what happen to this company... no point to listen to those shit that personally also cant explain why.. Bursa not only one stock
2020-10-07 10:03 | Report Abuse
all AT supporters like to find excuses. why dont the operator push down further to get other 360m PP?
2020-10-05 10:21 | Report Abuse
glove biz is the trust level on the board. How to think of operator throw tickets? the main reason that can think is to get the cheaper tickets from PP. Who will it benefit? Since new board, ady 2/3 issuance size created, simply say its ady a cheap RTO
2020-10-05 10:01 | Report Abuse
no point to argue about AT. AT may grow but thdd grow style may not as thdd expected. For every point of growing, it might raise more issuance to ensure the fund and control on the company. Imagine the operator get PP 500m and push 200m to market, they still earn money and also control, some like cheap RTO. AT with the fund will never be PN17 but up or not will totally depends on operator, not any news. If the operator happy on those easy money, AT may just stuck forever until another geng in.
2020-09-25 09:54 | Report Abuse
sometimes dreamer might be seller too
2020-09-22 14:29 | Report Abuse
no point to argue, either invest or gamble, its personal choice, take own risk... either stockiss or menort, its just advice, no one force to put order... AT may fly or fall, no one knows but based on the track record, dont play contra, its just controlled stock, fly or not depends on the operator, not me or you
2020-09-22 12:37 | Report Abuse
shud nt compare AT with big glove... big glove have hit cap and with huge profit, still correction on price.. but for AT, all still questions, using insider news to press the price or press the price to set PP price actually is irresponsible, AT might fly but based on the track record, no one can deny menort prediction wont happen.. whatever done in egm doesnt mean anything. In msia, cost of manipulating a stock too low, fine from bursa even less than one day manupulating profit.
2020-09-21 09:40 | Report Abuse
Both sides have the points. As what menort mentions, share price is direction for company potential future. For past weeks, its clearly one or more parties dump the shares at lower price and the volume plus queue more than 300 million, only 2 reasons, either lost confidence or part of board which can control the news and updates... furthermore the punishment on manipulation of the price is too peanut compared to the huge profit... AT will fly really still a big question mark.
2020-09-17 11:20 | Report Abuse
the pattern same for months, just get in when start moving, no point to wait mid term, long term... its just purely manipulated stock.
2020-08-28 13:05 | Report Abuse
yes agreed.the price was pressed all the way to let PP at lower price
2020-08-28 12:25 | Report Abuse
From financial view, there is no any stopper to stop the glove biz in AT, dont think EGM will reject this. However the positive news doesnt mean it will boost up the price. As you seen in these few months, AT's price is fully controlled, from the trrack record, operator at least have 250-300 million shares to play, and must have linkage with the Board. So to break this wall without operator, retailer might have buying power 200 million shares (70% above) to change the game.
2020-08-28 12:08 | Report Abuse
@helterskelter The deadline wont be affected by fund availability, AT ady have 70+ million to complete all these. If failed, it wont be caused by money, but the management
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4 weeks ago | Report Abuse
For my opinion, dont touch Malaysia stock, mostly controlled counter. For the development, if for those stay in Johor/Iskandar area, there is huge development from Gelang Patah, Aspira, Medini, to Bukit Indah include commercial, residential and technology park. The pricing increase 40-50% compared to year 2023. Otherwise with the high asset value, UEMS should get a much higher profit in coming QR, but due to major holders hold high ratioin UEMS, dont expect it will follow the market, up or down depends on shark's mood... :-) Good luck