The chinese companies that they sold the contract to looks fishy. Don't buy XDXD

the more i see these dumb claims without any proof, the more i feel like vomiting. Can you show me where you get the figures a?

now aviation and oil industries both tanked. Sell liao lo

aiya now what stock you buy also drop la in the near future. You ask for icap to gulung tikar this year is not strategic since icap stocks might fall until close to its current price. Close liao you might also lose money. Might as well hold or buy more since it will drop.

gg jialat

I think that this is an opportunity that is brought about by the virus, but video streaming was not in the mainstream. So it would depend on the severity and duration of the virus.

@firehawk at least he still got stock-pick method, don't know if you got one or not. About Mieco where's the proof? You don't simply bullshit.

stockraider you think like you never lose money from stock market like that. Ppl still run a business, while you talk cock day in day out in i3

wah ppl still listen to stockraider a? every forum he go he'll kena flag lol. if i want to listen to a clown talk, i'll go to a circus, not i3

You think i like to call you stupid meh stockraider. But if you're actually stupid i have to call you that mah lol. you present the result for 2018 for what? compare apples to apples mah. you said one leh. what you so retarded. sorry, what i mean is WHY YOU SO RETARDED

you want more proof is it? let me show you one more.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/04/warren-buffett-has-128-billion-in-cash-to-burn.html

People have 128 bln in cash. you know with that amount of money, even if you stack $50 dollar notes in your house you also cannot fill it up okay(unless you have billion dollar mansion then i don't know what to say already la). so even buffett is cautious with his money, not like you talk cock here and there.


Posted by stockraider > Nov 6, 2019 8:11 PM | Report Abuse

A peak of sohai flyhigh 123 manipulation & msistatement loh...!!

"5. ICAP PLACE ALMOST 70% OF HIS INVESTMENT IN CASH WHEREAS BERKSHIRE HAS ALLOCATED FAR LESS PERCENTAGE OF ITS ASSETS. THIS IS THE MAIN POINT WHY ICAP UNDER PERFORM ALL BCOS OF TTB
"Berkshire's cash pile is worth nearly 60% of its $208 billion portfolio" (see https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/warren-buffett-berkshire-hathaway-record-122-billion-cash-warns-crash-2019-8-1028476169)
shots fired bitch"

Emclosed is the summary of berkshire balance sheet in (USD Billion}

Berkshire cash & near cash holdings as at 2018

1. Insurance & Others
1.1 Cash................................27.7
1.2 Short term investment...............81.5
1.3 Fixed maturity investment...........19.9

2. Rail Road & power
2.1 Cash................................2.6

Total Cash equivalent..................131.7

Berkshire borrowing as at 2018

3.0 Insurance & Others
3.1 Notes & Borrowing..................34.9

4.0 Rail Road & Power
4.1 Notes & borrowings.................62.5

Total borrowings.......................97.4

Berkshire net cash after loan..........34.3

Berkshire Shareholder Funds............348.7

Gross cash v equity....................37.7%

Net Cash v Equity.......................9.9%

If u compare Berkshire v Icap....the cash holding element is only 9.9% v icap 70% loh....!!

They u can see how sohai this TTB...by placing in FD loh....!!

stockraider needs to write a book or give a seminar to teach us how to talk cock when you don't know what you're talking about. i'm impressed with how much bullshit you can say.

Since you like to attack line by line i also copy your style, stockraider XD.

Posted by stockraider > Nov 2, 2019 12:35 PM | Report Abuse

WHY SHAREHOLDER RESPECT WARREN BUFFET BUT DESPISE TTB LEH ??

1. BERKSHIRE SHARE TRADE AT PREMIUM WHEREAS ICAP TRADE AT HUGE DISCOUNT LOH....!!
where do you get this information?? how you know berkshire is trading at a premium???

2. WARREN BUFFET ACT LIKE OWNER OF THE COMPANY IN FACT HE IS SUBSTANTIAL OWNER, UNLIKE TTB PUT MOST OF ITS MONEY IN FIXED DEPOSITS TO PROTECT HIS MANAGEMENT FEES N NOT ICAP SHAREHOLDER AND WARREN BUFFET DRAW VERY MODEST PAY RELATIVE TO THE COMPANY PROFIT UNLIKE TTB HIS FEES EVEN SOMETIME EXCEEDED ICAP PROFIT LOH...!!
how you know he put his money in FD?? you sleep with him is it or you're working for him?? why we don't know the info?? how you know warren buffet draw very modest pay?? where's the number??

3. WARREN BUFFET DID THE RIGHT THING N DID INITIATE SHARE BUY BACK, WHEN HE CANNOT FIND GREAT INVESTMENT COMPARE TO CONMAN TTB, DESPITE ICAP SHAREHOLDER URGE HIM TO BUY BACK BCOS IT IS BEST BENEFICIAL INTEREST FOR SHAREHOLDER AS IT IS SAFEST & BEST WEALTH CREATION , BUT TTB GIVE ALL SORT OF EXCUSE TO PROTECT HIS MAIN SELF INTEREST TO GET HIGH MANAGEMENT FEES NO MATTER HOW IS ICAP PERFORMANCE LOH....!!
previously you say ttb is a buffett lackey but now when ttb is not following buffett you're saying that he should follow buffett to do stock buyback. what you want bro??

4.THE SOHAI INFORMATION GIVEN BY QUINCY IS MANIPULATIVE, U MUST COMPARE APPLE WITH APPLE AND U NEED TO COMPARE BERKSHIRE LATEST PAST 5 PERFORMANCE FOR THE LAST 5 YRS V ICAP PERFORMANCE, U WILL SEE BERKSHIRE CLEARLY OUTPERFORMED V FD PLACEMENT MANAGER ICAP LOH...!!
what quincy is saying is that you need to know when to invest in the company mah. this kind of thing everyone knows you need to be taught meh?? of cuz not asking to blindly enter the market at any time

5. ICAP PLACE ALMOST 70% OF HIS INVESTMENT IN CASH WHEREAS BERKSHIRE HAS ALLOCATED FAR LESS PERCENTAGE OF ITS ASSETS. THIS IS THE MAIN POINT WHY ICAP UNDER PERFORM ALL BCOS OF TTB
"Berkshire's cash pile is worth nearly 60% of its $208 billion portfolio" (see https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/warren-buffett-berkshire-hathaway-record-122-billion-cash-warns-crash-2019-8-1028476169)
shots fired bitch

why do i need to still listen to this joker talking crap all day?? obviously he doesn't know how to invest or even know the companies

hey ahbah I'm not talking about you also you perasan for what. You poor and you're from kampung are not my problem you know lol. if you don't know shit then think and reflect about how to invest, not come here talk cock about one single company day in day out.

if people come to invade your country you also sure want to kick those invaders out. it's happening here lo

AND I QUOTE YOU AGAIN ON WHAT YOU SAID ON OCT 9:

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Oct 9, 2019 9:54 AM | Report Abuse

Please think rationally loh....!!

Yes calvin is one of the biggest and one of the most important contributor in i3 mah...!!

If i3 members think calvin is useless......the simple solution is just ignore him loh.....but why alot i3 members spend thousands of hours and thousand of pages attacking calvin leh ??

THE REST IS BLAH BLAH BLAH

"If i3 members think calvin is useless......the simple solution is just ignore him loh.....but why alot i3 members spend thousands of hours and thousand of pages attacking calvin leh ??"

LET ME REPHRASE ABIT. NAH YOUR WORDS NOT MINE:
If i3 members think icap is useless......the simple solution is just ignore him loh.....but why alot i3 members spend thousands of hours and thousand of pages attacking icap leh ??

i copy your pattern a stockraider: YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO THIS SOHAI STOCKRAIDER TALK? HE GO TO ANY FORUM HIS COMMENTS EITHER KENA FLAGGED OR REMOVED. AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT ONLY THIS FORUM. HE GOT 31 COMMENTS FLAGGED AND 38 COMMENTS REMOVED IN ONE MONTH. ONE MONTH ONLY YOU KNOW LOL. LET ME SHOW YOU SOME EXAMPLES OF HIS "GLORIOUS" PAST.

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IN ONE DAY 7 OF HIS COMMENTS KENA REMOVED. I WONDER WHY?

If I got time like you unemployed people I would surely argue gao gao one lol. Cannot argue liao talk about FD here FD there. ahbah you say thank you to me i want to first express my gratitude that you are respectful. but you are still wrong lol. like i said you asked the wrong questions. Where ttb put his money you can check the annual report. it's black and white there.

stockraider leh he don't know how to argue like normal people so he copy and paste FD. at least ahbah got some creativity lol. stockraider you pulled your facts out of your ass is it? why I don't know one?

stocktraitor in order to break commenting 13k posts, he spam his comments here lol.

tbh cheoky you can feel any way about any people want la. people put on a suit and talk cock everyone can believe. performance matters, which in this case i think pangolin does a good job as well. but like i said even if the fund's performance is high the other fees will reduce your returns. think carefully when to invest also. ttb lansi and overconfident liao you don't want to invest just means that you are blinded by your dislike towards him rather than judging his fund performance. it's either whether you believe in the strategy of the fund or not only

Posted by cheoky > Oct 30, 2019 2:04 PM | Report Abuse

5years underperforming vs my figureless ETF, other equity funds enough to trigger questioning perhaps this fund manager is not gear up to market investment condition. The worst is no humility to admission of poor performance due to own internal weakness but happily to attribute poor performance due to inherently poor country condition. The gist is able to outperform greatly under risk adjusted condition even under such condition. Proven him can't.

Even market itself discounted heavily on icap. That speaks volume of the fund manager quality. Smart money like London saw artibrage opportunity, this is a rational move. Holders should think twice whether this fund manager possess the attributes to bring your investment to greater height in next 10years. All this is probability decision. Make the best decision.
Watch pangolin fund manager, James inveterview. You can immediately sense his pragmatic thinking and no bullshit.

ahbah i think you're asking the wrong question. the truth of the matter is that you could always find a period in time where some stocks or group of stocks would do better than icap. the question that the supporters emphasized was whether you believe in investing long term in the company like 3iii. once you put your money into icap you would leave it there for months to years. Of cuz don't buy at a time of excess optimism la. So the choice is whether you believe in what icap is saying. Go read their newsletter here ( https://www.icapital.biz/newsletter/home ) will give you an idea what they think. but i would say if you don't have a lot of money to put away and you're thinking of short to medium term then don't invest lo. the amount of money you have and investment horizon matter also. In fact i would tell you don't buy if you don't satisfy the 2 conditions. I also didn't invest in this company lol. I just keep track of it only. but I like what they are saying and go to their AGM maybe you'll learn something

Posted by ahbah > Oct 30, 2019 12:17 PM | Report Abuse

FlyHigh123, Thanks for your reply. In your opinion, is there any stock or a group of stocks better than ICap in our mkt ?

wah why so chinese this forum. don't understand le

i think eco world can buy but not now. i would sell and then wait until it bottoms

aiya this stock sell liao la lol

to answer your question ahbah, nope I'm not. i thought that cheoky's points are valid. Areca equityTRUST Fund has quite a good track record. Not say very exceptional compared to icap but I thought it was still not bad can consider. i didn't mention this but i also thought stkstudent raised some very good questions previously. quite valid i approve. my point is you need to ask the correct questions and make correct claims.

not like stockraider here. he don't know what he's talking about. he ate garbage during meals and then bullshit to you in this forum

i think cheoky provides a good example when he introduced the Areca equityTRUST Fund. But it has entry charge of up to 3% of investment amount, 1.9% per annum of NAV management fee and 0.08% per annum of trustee fee. if you know when to enter the trust then good for you lo. if not then your returns become less or even negative because of the fees.

On the other hand stockraider is not acting dumb, he's actually retarded. His arguments are either something like "REMEMBER THERE ARE NOTHING TO STOP TTB , TO PUT MOST OF ICAP INVESTABLE MONIES IN FIXED DEPOSITS MONIES FOR THE NEXT 10 TO 15 YRS PERIOD ONCE THE FUND LIFE IS EXTENDED LOH..." or "ON THE OTHER HAND LONDON HAS MANY MANY SUPPORTER TOO, ESPECIALLY DISGRUNTLE SHAREHOLDERS WHO BOUGHT ICAP FOR THE PAST 5 YEARS MAH..!!" or "AFTER THAT TTB CHICKEN OUT PUT ALL INVESTOR MONIES IN FD TO ENSURE HE GET A FAT MANAGEMENT FEES, THUS ICAP TRADE AT A HUGE DISCOUNT LOH...!!" or "THERE ARE PLENTY MORE FUND MANAGERS, FUNDS AND CLOSE END FUND AVAILABLE TO CHOSE FROM, WHO HAS BETTER PERFORMANCE FOR PAST 5 YRS LOH....!!" Then if he cannot convince people he call people sohai. Like a broken radio keep repeating dumb shit over time. stockraider if you don't know the company don't talk cock. you've been here for weeks liao still don't understand english ka? after 12999 posts still none the wiser. you're the reason why this forum is rotting.

This forum makes me laugh lol. people try to convince abah about the good points of this company he mati mati just look at the bad side. Then once he doesn't know how to come back with good points he'll say something cute like I'm a novice investor, I'm poor and come from kampung. Damn cute if you're still a child if you want to act dumb, not when you're investing.

why you ask stupid question like that ahbah lol. market price is based on whether you want to buy or you don't want to buy one ma. to be honest if you think about it properly, it has not much to do with the nav also. people buy more it'll go above the nav, buy less it'll go below the nav, just like people buy more stocks of normal companies the per goes up, buy less the per goes down. Don't like the price sell, like the price buy. Easy right?

people said nonsense you also follow. Blackjack said your gf is delicious and then you reply "got the whole world to search for gf n yet tak bolih tahan seeing our lovely Malaysian gf here." I don't understand this statement. Speak ingklis. you don't know how to read you should say upfront you don't know how to read. Then I'll treat you with more respek lo.

Nah I'm no iCap supporter la. I think their stock price rose very slow la. But your comments so dumb I thought it was hilarious.

ahbah only follow what other people's say. Calvin asked him to buy Next he also bought Next. Now the Next forum kena tembak until shit like that, and everyone knows calvin is a fraudster. People asked him to attack iCap he also attack iCap. Limbeh don't understand your thinking process le.

limbeh also don't understand what ahbah is talking about, keep pulling out old news or records on iCap. ahbah, 10 years ago, you might also say you want to become a pilot or an engineer or the prime minister of Malaysia, BUT YOU STILL END UP HERE COMMENTING NON-STOP DAY AND NIGHT. My point is everyone can talk cock. you can even talk cock about what people said gazillion years ago. But TTB still raised a million ringgit company and you still here giving half-ass comments that I still don't understand

wah I really don't know which cock you're talking about lol. Jayden said the annualised return of Kenanga is worse than iCap's, and then you still talking about the cumulative returns. wah I'm not iCap supporter i also thought stockraider you sohai.

People are strong iCap supporters they biased they also got facts. I don't know stockraider where you got your facts. You can read bo? need limbei teach you?

wah these people against iCap damn smart. They own shares and then they just want to vote for dissolution of iCap to earn the 20% to 30% return. wah damn sinister. IF I WERE YOU, I WOULD BUY MORE SHARES OF ICAP LE IF I FOLLOW THAT THINKING.

wah stockraider you've been here so long ady lol. You invests in icap isit?
stkstudent all the funds have sort of the same returns one la. you got invests in unit trust and then earn 100% in 1 year meh? (IF GOT TELL ME LEH LOL). It's a different ball game. investing in stocks is more risky and thus higher return. That's basic finance theory. Funds are different. They cap their downsides so that they'll have less volatile returns

wah the stock straight dipped and then go up again lol

Having one of the highest debt levels among the construction companies in Malaysia, it certainly looks risky to invest. But I think even in the worst event that they default on their debts, they still could liquidate their assets to cover their losses. So I think it's not a bad buy if you still believe in the company lo lol

The stock rose too fast, looks like someone is manipulating the price. I would say even if there's prospect, it's better to stay cautious.

Ya I think the company is a good buy, or more like I don't think it's a good sell looking at the momentum going. The recent development expanding to indonesia also looks good, I would buy.

wah I haven't come here to comment for 2 days and this forum is populated by comments already. I'm not judging la but CharlesT you've been spamming here all week lol. People criticize you abit and then you attack back. You're not working meh? so free one a? I don't really care about all this la. But it's amusing to me you've been spending so much time here when you could've have gone elsewhere to comment on other stocks that might benefit you, since I presume you're not a novice investor. Again this is not an attack on you CharlesT. I just put my 2 cents because I thought it was amusing lol

wow it looks like a warzone here lol.... oh on abah's point so flawed lol... it's like he's indirectly asking us to buy icap non-stop. Buy lo buy lo lol

Meh the increase does not look right. I would sell ASAP

Isn't it a hostile takeover then? Since the Ayala is planning to take over MCT when the malaysian market is not doing well. Sad seeing another Malaysian company taken over by a foreign country, albeit it's still an Asian country

wah sad lo like that. According to my understanding, CEFs are an avenue for novice investors have their money handled by professionals. If COL closed up another CEF, then Malaysia is really regressing backwards rather than pushing forward. Got Shared Prosperity Vision 2030 also useless la

wah looks like sumatec gg liao. sell lo......

ooo i also just saw the news on The Star. Quite interesting once you look more into it. COL kept buying icap shares over the years to maintain as a major shareholder and yet icap is still selling at a discount to the NAV. Makes you wonder huh?