further the vaccination rate in seychelles is higher than israel and less denser population

death rate is not more than 1 per day for the last 1 week for 10 million population

Seychelles 100k population more than 6 deaths in less than a week

(thats like 100 times more death rate vs Israel)

this really shows how powerful and effective Pfizer is

death rate is almost nil

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/

i am not against any other vaccine vaccination on availability, but govn must intent now to procure pfizer for the whole nation

i realized they had only procured for about 16m presently

Covid: Biden hails 'great day' as he sheds mask in Oval Office

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57109039

not sure when malaysia will come to that level

Posted by pjseow > May 14, 2021 12:47 PM | Report Abuse

Although the Sinovac vaccines is reported to have 50 % efficacy, it prevent death and serious complications if the 50 % do get infected. This is based on Results from Brazil and Chile. The other vaccinated 50% when infected will get no symtoms ,mild symptoms or moderate symptoms . Those with.mild symptoms like just a fever will recover within a few days . Moderate symtoms like cough and body ache might take longer. However these infected can spread to others. Sinovac vaccines do help in preventing 50 % of those vaccinated from getting infected and the other 50 % if do get infected, you do not need to go to hosiptal . You will recover.

Posted by probability > May 14, 2021 12:54 PM | Report Abuse X

agree and aware of the above pjseow..

concern is will economy and social activity fully recover and be like pre-pandemic level when these 50% are still getting infected (though not severe at all)?

even at 10% level....there is a huge risk of delay in social recovery

to avoid these, i see govn must procure pfizer for the whole nation while they continue with other vaccine vaccination based on availability..

my objective is to have full pre-pandemic recovery as early as possible

agree and aware of the above pjseow..

concern is will economy and social activity fully recover and be like pre-pandemic level when these 50% are still getting infected (though not severe at all)?

even at 10% level....there is a huge risk of delay in social recovery

to avoid these, i see govn must prcure pfizer for the whole nation while they continue with other vaccine vaccination based on availability..

my objective is to have full pre-pandemic recovery

agreed but need to buy ''pfizer for the whole nation'despite already procuring other vaccines

agreed

agreed

ok agree...

good..my whole advocation is about govn needing to procure pfizer now for the whole nation, knowing that full economic & social recovery is not possible with astrazeneca & chinese vaccines..

nothing more - if you are not against above then no need to promote anything here lor....

there is no argument then

good..my whole advocation is about govn needing to procure pfizer now for the whole nation, knowing that full economic & social recovery is not possible with astrazeneca & chinese vaccines..

nothing more - if you are not against above then no need to promote anything here lor....

there is no argument then

good..my whole advocation is about govn needing to procure pfizer now for the whole nation, knowing that full economic & social recovery is not possible with astrazeneca & chinese vaccines..

nothing more - if you are not against above then no need to promote anything here lor....

there is no argument then

good..my whole advocation is about govn needing to procure pfizer now fir the whole nation, knowing that full economic & social recovery is not possible with astrazeneca & chinese vaccines..

nothing more - if you are not against above then no need to promote anything here lor..

dont say something i never say lor..i repeatedly said..take whatever you have...but game is not over till you get pfizer equivalent ma...

Posted by stockraider > May 14, 2021 12:18 PM | Report Abuse

For 1% advantage u wait 2 to 3 years like a so0hai...is it not silly leh ?

Posted by probability > May 14, 2021 12:16 PM | Report Abuse

dont say something i never say lor..i repeatedly said..take whatever you have...but game is not over till you get pfizer equivalent ma...

Posted by stockraider > May 14, 2021 12:18 PM | Report Abuse

For 1% advantage u wait 2 to 3 years like a so0hai...is it not silly leh ?

Posted by probability > May 14, 2021 12:16 PM | Report Abuse

ha ha...bit are you admitting we need to procure pfizer for the whole nation?

simple le...no need divert argument

dont say something i never say lor..i repeatedly said..take whatever you have...but game is not over till you get pfizer equivalent ma...

Posted by stockraider > May 14, 2021 12:18 PM | Report Abuse

For 1% advantage u wait 2 to 3 years like a so0hai...is it not silly leh ?

Posted by probability > May 14, 2021 12:16 PM | Report Abuse

i never promote astrazeneca ma...throw that in garbage...we need Pfizer lor...data is extremely clear infront of us..SEE ISRAEL statistics with full removal of restrictions (no mask, no dsitancing)...cases 2 digit level already..

efficacy is very important...even 1% advantage makes a lot of difference as can be seen in seychelles... it is very clear which vaccine is better....

we need the govn to realize this lorr...

enormous date from Israel is available ma...

just admit..loosen your ego and promote pfizer for faster economic recovery and freedom ma....

ego no use

i see you have issues western vaccine superior than china lor...that looks like the main issue here....LOL!

just admit..loosen your ego and promote pfizer for faster economic recovery and freedom ma....

ego no use

i see you have issues western vaccine superior than china lor...that looks like the main issue here....LOL!

i see you have issues western vaccine superior than china lor...that looks like the main issue here....LOL!

i see you have issues western vaccine superior than china lor...that looks like the main issue here....LOL!

people like you discouraging people with unfounded fear lor...the odds are very small... you can see israel a nation with 10million, deaths counts is very small lor....


Posted by GrowingRich > May 14, 2021 12:02 PM | Report Abuse

Israel probing link between Pfizer jab & heart problem in men under 30

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-said-probing-link-between-pfizer-...

people like you discouraging people with unfounded fear lor...the odds are very small... you can see israel a nation with 10million, deaths counts is very small lor....



Posted by GrowingRich > May 14, 2021 12:02 PM | Report Abuse

Israel probing link between Pfizer jab & heart problem in men under 30

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-said-probing-link-between-pfizer-...

Israel has proven it works without any restriction now with Pfizer...dont take chances and waste time any longer lor!!

we need to buy pfizer now lorr!!

its very very urgent lor...

Israel has proven it works without any restriction now with Pfizer...dont take chances and waste time any longer lor!!

we need to buy pfizer now lorr!!

its very very urgent lor...

Israel has proven it works without any restriction now with Pfizer...dont take chances and waste time any longer lor!!

we need to buy pfizer now lorr!!

its very very urgent lor...

no one is waiting la...but many stup*d people will think economy will recover in years time with this stup*d vaccine la...

that we dont want

they need to be prepared for second vaccination with pfizer lo
..........................................

THIS IS MANDATORY - NO WAY OUT LO!!!

and govn must buy now...

Pfizer producing 2.5 Billion doses...its a shame if Malaysia cannot get this by 2021 and innoculate all!!!!

no one is waiting la...but many stup*d people will think economy will recover in years time with this stup*d vaccine la...

that we dont want

they need to be prepared for second vaccination with pfizer lo
..........................................

THIS IS MANDATORY - NO WAY OUT LO!!!

and govn must buy now...

Pfizer producing 2.5 Billion doses...its a shame if Malaysia cannot get this by 2021 and innoculate all!!!!

you can see clearly a vaccine that has proven itself in israel...its dumb if govn do not procure this for the whole nation

getting vaccinated with whatever vaccine available is fine, but people must not be complacent thinking the war is over

you need to use the best available vaccine, this is mandatory

both govn & public should realize this and place all out effort to source this better efficacy vaccines ( isee only pfizer at the moment)

lets not be fooled

getting vaccinated with whatever vaccine available is fine, but people must not be complacent thinking the war is over

you need to use the best available vaccine, this is mandatory

both govn & public should realize this and place all out effort to source this better efficacy vaccines ( isee only pfizer at the moment)

lets not be fooled

yes, but also - vaccine efficacy

do whatever damn possible to secure Pfizer for the whole nation

do not be complacent having procured other low efficacy vaccines - you wont win this war with these

i am not saying reject what you already have....i am advocating for the govn to make conscious all out effort to buy pfizer for the whole malaysian population NOW...

i want govn to realize that - and it damn urgent and important

cause waiting for other vaccine to work is stup**ty ..a waste of time

then take astrazeneca lor...many countries refused to take....you keep taking lor...sapu whatever u can get from garabage

allow it to make a new strain...

and the later inject with pfizer lor..cause no longer immune

by then pfizer sold out to other countries

u wait another 2 years for reopening economy

learn from singapore

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/sinovac-vaccine-still-being-evaluated-for-use-in-singapore-gan

hope u dont want malaysia to be like indonesia... i think china certainly does not want

https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&pickerSort=desc&pickerMetric=population&hideControls=true&Interval=Cumulative&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=BHR~BRA~CHL~FRA~DEU~HUN~IND~ISR~SRB~TUR~GBR~USA~URY~ESP~ITA~ARE~MEX~RUS~SYC&Metric=People+vaccinated+%28by+dose%29

that time vaccination is still ongoing

Posted by RiverOfSilver > May 13, 2021 8:33 PM | Report Abuse

maybe it takes some time for the surge to flatten, post-vaccination

it was also still surging in israel, immediately post-vaccination

no point using israel numbers before vaccination

see the recent case counts...its rising rapidly...hitting 300 per day... israel is below 50...

former 100k population....latter is 10milliom

Malaysia have the money to buy leh....they can afford to pay higher.. the more they pay, the faster the vaccine will arrive..manufacturer will prioritize..

but chose to compromise....and this is ultimate stup**ty

let us not waste malaysian time leh...you are wasting another year

what Israel has Malaysia cannot afford? you can buy 10m but you cannot another 20M?

stop wasting people's time and make a mess

let us not waste malaysian time leh...you are wasting another year

what Israel has Malaysia cannot afford? you can buy 10m but you cannot another 20M?

stop wasting people's time and make a mess