As response to your polite reply, I shall apologise for inappropriate remarks.

I wouldn’t recommend using PE of industry as a whole as comparison. Say a new IPO will probably have far higher PE for their potential. E.g. 50sen for 0.005 annualised profit will put it at PE100 just solely on their prospect, but as the optimism of their earning potential subside, price will eventually fall back to normal valuation.

A more accurate valuation method will be comparing to its relatively similar peers in terms of market cap/earnings. e,g Mahsing. Mahsing making less profit with higher market cap at PE 20. If market values KSL 50% of how they value Mahsing will put KSL at PE10. There is almost 100% upside at current price.

Then question will become, how come market don’t value KSL the same as how they value Mahsing. That will open up different can of worms.
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Alex_Kho
Hey @RJ87,

Totally my bad on that one – thanks for catching it! I had a typo in my previous post. What I meant was that if KSL's P/E ratio matches half the average P/E of its peers, not a 50% of the price.

So, here's the deal: If you buy 1,000 shares of KSL at RM1.84 (costing RM1,840) and KSL's P/E ratio rises to half the average of its peers, the projected stock price would be RM7.25 per share.

Still a pretty sweet deal and more than doubles your investment! Appreciate you pointing out the mistake.

Happy goreng guys.

No idea what kind of mathematics is this. Sounds more like Scam-matics.
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Suppose you buy 1,000 shares of KSL at the current price. KSL’s price is low compared to its earnings and other similar companies.
If you buy 1,000 shares of KSL at RM1.84 = RM1,840
If the price goes up by 50% (close the P/E gap) = RM7,250
That is more than double your money.

Shark also smart to choose counters. Only those they confident won’t turn to shit mcm serbadinamik.
This counter ada asset, ada cashflow, tak byk hutang. Apa mau takut? Question is will 10-20% range mau main.
20-25sen, 25-30, or 30-35sen. I think they most comfortable at 25-30sen. 15-20% every 1-1.5months.

this counter is heavily manipulated. Hv to learn to swim with the sharks to be successful.

1/3 hold long term, 1/3 play every 5% selldown buy and take profit every 5% up. Last 1/3 for > 25% drop to play next level.

1 year got 10-20 times 5% also can make 50-100 return. 5% each time. Don’t be greedy.

Buy more when down, sell when up. Leave half for long term

I was expecting 1sen good already without subsidy.

Seems like they recognizing eggs revenue

I always trust singor judgement…although estimate profit off abit..but I still trust u

Sell already don’t come back…geksim only later

last time/old timer time 1 lot - 1000 shares
current 1 lot - 100 shares

So u 800,000 shares either 800 big lots or 8000 small lots.

Anyway, like singor said, it’s pointless to tell anyone how much u have unless u just to brag.
Later singor come say I hold 2000-3000 big lots also haven’t make noise. Ur 800 big lots already holler here and there.
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Gentingbig
what bragging are you calling out at ??? i cut my losses at breakeven . i brought 800000 untis which is only equivalent to 80 lots right .

Just now witness around 5million sell queue evaporated when another big gun sapu 6-7million shares.
Now waiting manipulator to uncover the lid.

Alex Kho, only remaining question for you is what is a fair value to take profit?
P.S. I’m gonna discount 25% from whatever you say and take profit first.

This is good news. Lap sap with Rm8m profit can hv RM500m valuation.

Now KSL with RM100m profit, 10x Guacoland. Like this KSL mar at least RM4B valuation right? Still got 100% to go
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speakup
https://theedgemalaysia.com/node/711394
More bad news

Mahsing 60m profit sits on RM3Billion market cap…

this counter is only RM1.9B at 100m profits. Given it’s landbank, completed hotels and malls, and inventories should easily put it at RM3-4B market cap for price of RM3/4.

Very safe and syndicates knows no matter price they goreng up or down, they will eventually win.

buy today expect up tomorrow. Better go genting. No need wait a day. 30seconds will know if u make 100% or lose 100%

U guys better go Genting.

singor any prediction on profit next QR?

They try to scare ppl to sell cheap ticket so that they can collect?

Then there is a communication problem between PNB and Khazanah/EPF.
Bcos everyday, someone come support velesto price after 10am. Queue sibeh big buy queue.

2 Feb, the team woke up late. Shorties shorted 26.5sen to 23 sen and quickly rebounded back when the team woke up. 3-4m queue jump to 20-30m.

Time Price Chg Vol
11:46:51 0.275 500,000
11:46:51 0.275 500,000
11:46:48 0.275 3,364,200
11:46:39 0.275 500,000
11:46:38 0.275 356,500
11:46:38 0.275 500,000
11:46:37 0.275 500,000
11:46:37 0.275 500,000
11:46:37 0.275 500,000
11:46:36 0.275 500,000
11:46:34 0.275 50,000
11:46:34 0.275 30,000
11:46:34 0.275 550,000
11:46:33 0.275 27,200
11:46:33 0.275 500,000
11:46:33 0.275 500,000
11:46:33 0.275 500,000
11:46:33 0.275 500,000
11:46:33 0.275 500,000
11:46:32 0.275 500,000
11:46:28 0.275 500,000
11:46:28 0.275 500,000
11:46:13 0.275 +0.005 500,000

Another round of machine gun buying buy big boys

Time Price Chg Vol
10:11:29 0.270 250,000
10:11:28 0.270 500,000
10:11:28 0.270 1,000,000
10:11:28 0.270 3,000,000
10:11:28 0.270 2,000,000
10:11:28 0.270 1,000,000
10:10:43 0.270 100,000
10:10:41 0.270 13,500
10:09:58 0.270 20,000
10:09:20 0.270 500,000

Very soon, bertempiaran la these manipulators buying back their position.

Last round 2 Feb Selldown, IB burned manipulators.

This round, manipulator panai dy. The get CGS to write c*ck and do selldown when IB are on holiday.
Very panai, very panai.

U better buy back before these folks back from holiday. Cry also no tears when you have to buy back at 35sens.

I think should be more like. 95% velesto resource already under contract until 2026. No material impact.

But of cos, all analysts are already on the way back to their hometown. Freaking manipulators choose timing nice nice. Lol
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Brownies

Think IB TP should be revised after the bad news.

34 minutes ago

So, from s*imlywall.st. Last updated was 31 Mac,23. If no new update, means no changes gua.

oh f*ck liao. Then, where u get ur info from?

Macgyver111, remove the * and you can see where I get my info from. Where do you get urs from?

*h*t*t*ps://s*i*mplywall.st/stocks/my/energy/klse-velesto/velesto-energy-berhad-shares/valuation

Macgyver111

I believed yours not yet update?

Are you sure Urusharta Jemaah this hold the portion?

Cannot find any data of it, that's why asked you...

any link to where you get that info from?

For Pnb, every 10% is 120m. Isn’t it makes sense to goreng all the way up ?

53.8% from PnB. Just matter of time they push all the way up.

Can check s-i-mply wall st for valuation. Fair value is 52sen.
And it’s pretty accurate. They estimated fair value for perdana to be 35sen.

Ownership Name Shares Current Value Change % Portfolio %
53.8%
Permodalan Nasional Berhad 4,415,800,928 RM1.2b 1.61% 0.82%
7.79%
Hong Leong Asset Management Bhd. 639,934,700 RM179.2m 0% 5.54%
3.47%
Urusharta Jamaah Sdn Bhd 284,980,080 RM79.8m 0% 2.09%

Contracts already signed one not affected. By the time contract expired, Aramco probably ran back up the production.

What’s the point towing here and there?

Ini company abang adik serba ni.

Probably no action of serba's management. Now everyone go start company in Arab and PO their own company in Malaysia.

2019 case. Really opened big cans of worms.

now everyone that has a record of application denied because ctos report will be suing CTOS

important thing here is inaccurate data. As long as the data is accurate, then should be fine.
basically, what they need to do is add a disclaimer that the report is accurate as of the date of report generated.

If the report is inaccurate on the date of report generated, then liable to be sued again unless they disclaim that this report SHOULD NOT BE USED as reference to determine an individual financial standing.

That would be there is no point using this service anymore.
So, they either make sure all data is correct and take legal responsibility or put disclaimer that makes it a kong song lam pa song report.

important thing is there is precedence from high court.

Technically, outdated/inaccurate CTOS data has slandered people causing loss of opportunity.

if plaintiff can proof the inaccuracy causing any loss, everyone with evidence can claim. Because it IS a slander causing harm to reputation and opportunity.

margin call maybe possible. Open short position every morning.

Will come short sell every QR out.

Bursa de Casino, nvr buy within 2 weeks after QR. Sure lose money.

consolidate 10:1, then drop back to 0.005, market cap 2.96m?

I think this a good candidate for RTO. Those malas to public list company themselves and do share swap.

Report subsidiary profit RM10m, terus 0.005sen fly up 50sen. Just wait and see.

DividendGuy67, do you know why Warren Buffet never get company he invested in to pay dividend? Tax is one reason. The other is it’s more important to keep cash in the company than paying out as dividend.

Anyone that runs a company properly will focus on equity growth. Investing cash will eventually translate to equity growth, surplus of cash only use to pay dividend.

Now I believe UOADEV has collected enough cash pile and making EPS 10 sen per annum and it’s more than fair giving out 100% as dividend payout. What’s the point of giving out whole 70sen per share cash reserve as dividend?

So that you can sell at RM 2.70 and the price drops all the way to RM 1 after? Only id*ot run makes decision like that. A good example of such id*ot will be TG. Out of all gloves counter, TG paid the most dividend and yet when party is over, TG is also the one suffered the most. Only thing market will be loyal is money. You want price to go up, earn more cash and keep it in the company.

U haven’t see the real shitty CEO Leon Harland. RM18B 5 years ago.


Under Gary and Luke, dropped to 3.5B. Don’t complain liao.

Here I follow few fellas judgement. Nikicheong and singor. They both do good analysis.

It's gonna drop all the way below 50sen anyway, now just a matter of it's a good chance to enter and at what price. See what nikicheong say on the actual profit from operation.
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nikicheong

If discounting the impairment, the Q profit would’ve likely been above rm200mil, maybe touching rm300mil even. I need to do a proper analysis later, am out now.


Of course the other good thing is with the impairment, there will be lower depreciation expenses going forward.

I think discount all the way below 50sen...

Want delete msg?

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ITreeinvestor

last chance to buy below RM0.60
No more discount After 12.30pm

55 minutes ago

queue buy 40sen

I think quite abit of short seller here. Probably hv to close their position by 4.30pm.
So, anyone hold should pull short squeeze to bump the price up before closing.

Any chance you happen to know when?

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Felix888999

Could have new contract announcement USD 130k per day rate to make the market crazy. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I don't know if you have proven him a slanderer.

But you definitely proved yourself the "smaller" person and NOT the smarter one.

If so desperate to show ur e-penis somewhere, find a place on ur shelf and put it there.
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MrHuangBK

Hahahah.. auntie Felicia still avoiding the bet..

I think FM will only start pushing up again next week…let all traders trade themselves first

Sigh, only time tell if it’s a good or bad move.

So hai dy. Sold 26.5 and buy back 30sen. ahhahha