I'm not a sifu... btw

patience lah.

Let me ask you, if you sell now, what other share would you buy?

The market is dropping overall. What do you suggest?


Posted by Jun Lim Ng > Apr 3, 2018 12:33 PM | Report Abuse

any si fu think HY can raise back to RM 8.50 in this coming May or June ?! or 100% no hope ?!

The further HY drops. More shares are sold.

Its a vicious cycle.

Won't end till everything has flushed....

Should be clear to everyone.

That someone has pledged HengYuan shares as collateral.

And these shares are being liquidated to maintain margin req.

qqq3 . just let it go man.


move on.

you look petty and silly dude.

We get the memo. You don't like him.


but the two of you are behaving like psychos.


constantly harping on and on. is he paying you for free advertising?

Move on laaaaa...


Obsessed much?

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Very quiet here.


Koony very quiet about this disaster huh?

John, do you have any proof that more people lose money?

Or is just that you are a perpetual loser?

Which one is it?


Posted by John_Lee > Apr 2, 2018 04:01 PM | Report Abuse

3iii,

Naughty statement with an ulterior motive.

We all know that more people lose money than earn money in share market, not just hengyuan. You are trying to be cunning and twist things to support your own prior statements.

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Sendai P/E 8 Why Buy and Not Hengyuan P/E 2 - Koon Yew Yin Koon Yew Yin's Blog


Since Koony published this absolute rubbish article like tin kosong, is it buy signal?

maybe you can suggest a better sifu/program instead of constant bitching?

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Yup, a little but odd. Shutdowns is part of any refinery business operations.

Posted by Lukesharewalker > Apr 2, 2018 10:53 AM | Report Abuse

don't make sense, if KY can wait 2 years for a power plant to come aboard and buy forward....whats a 2 month glitch in refinery enhancement for better production capacity and better product?

Logic is erratic

WoW! Kc. Well done! You've goosed the stock price for everyone!

Heading back to 5?

Into the sweet sweet toilet, Tune Protect the toilet bowl.

Over 60% loss since Feb. Not feeling good. Slumping!

Slumping ... like no tomorrow.

bankrupt la. how to compete with youtube?

constant lying & fake news.

ppl know laaa ....

stop treating ppl like idiots.

Slumping. Back to 1.60 soon...

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Posted by klee > Mar 29, 2018 11:21 AM | Report Abuse

very good to see you get burnt the minute you bought arv18....wakaka

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Posted by traderman > Mar 29, 2018 11:18 AM | Report Abuse

hahaha then you are punter, not investor, you no idea how hengyuan gonna perform this year and simply put your money into it ...

Maybe, but come talk kok in 15 years...

hahahaha.

15 year saving plan seems to not be able to compute with i3 traders..

hahahahah!

Posted by klee > Mar 29, 2018 11:17 AM | Report Abuse

arv18 is a noob,good only in talk kot sing song

???????????????????? - Up to you to do with your money as you please.

That is what is known as traderman's money. Should be obvious, no?

Most folks have a savings plan, 15-20 years. With a basket of stocks.

As I mentioned, I'm not a "trader".

Earnings will fluctuate year in, year out. So if they lose money, stock price goes down, I buy more. Its a 15 year time horizon.

I hope this is simple enough for you.

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Posted by traderman > Mar 29, 2018 11:09 AM | Report Abuse

simply put money into a downtrend stock then ask people you dont have saving plan ?really LOL

i wont risk my money like this ...

as a long term do you do research on hengyuan before ? do you calculate how much they gonna earn this year ?

You don't have any saving plan?

Are you sure?

Come here, talk kok only, is it .... hhahahahaha!

Posted by dragonslayer > Mar 29, 2018 11:01 AM | Report Abuse

Aiyo arv18....15 yrs saving plan...even longer that Tibet Monk leh...2 yrs saving plan leh....aiyoyo...kikiki

????????????? - I'm not trader maaaaaa. This is for my 15 year saving plan.

Posted by traderman > Mar 29, 2018 10:59 AM | Report Abuse

yeah buy more, hahahaha . buy more = stuck more

Hell Yeah! I hope to get more at 4. 5. & 6. That would be awesome! THanks!

Posted by traderman > Mar 29, 2018 10:54 AM | Report Abuse

yeah buy more, wont rally 1 ... hahaha ...

???????? - My money. My entry. Thanks for your useless response.

Posted by traderman > Mar 29, 2018 10:34 AM | Report Abuse

yes you cant get a perfect entry but you can avoid bad entry

parliament to dissolve any time ... from history after parliament dissolve, market will not rally as no shark will push up their stock when a country has no government !

Can't help myself. Bought in. Its a good entry point.

You'll never get the perfect entry.

he has 68 million motives he needs to dump. he's paying 4-5% annual interest on losing position.

sour market. below break-even.

he's panicking!

"I am obliged to tell you that I have more than 70 million shares and I must have been partially responsible for the price to go up in the last few days."

Yet transferred shares?

MR KOON YEW YIN 02-Mar-2018 Transferred 14,260,000 0.000

To whom? A related party? A bank? Very odd...

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weirdest reaction to dividend announcements...

21-Mar-2018 21-Mar-2018 Buyback 286,000 0.330

fyi...

hehehe ... nice one Charles. can save money, get those famous Ikea ones.

Simply do corporate excercise to goose the stock price. this is what happens laa....

normal.

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between 20-40 sen level. thats where its heading...

All the Call warrants are currently out-of the money, ie worthless.

only time-value is there. kiss goodbye if you don't have time until expiry...

kpsalak
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Posted by kpsalak > Mar 22, 2018 01:53 PM | Report Abuse

FxxxK!! they simply throw the CWs like nobody's business! Sifu-sifu here, please advise on CH, CM, I am left bone only now ...

https://www.facebook.com/Bonescythe-Stock-Watch-215356512324104/

ahahaha. thats how SC found him laaa

how to find him, its an anonymous google account.

Not a Cyber Attack dummy.

Come on. Don't be so dim-witted!

45sen divvy and struggling to move up???

lol!

oh, yeah, last divvy was in 2008 (10 years ago). Once in decade divvy...

Calvin.

1) Give the Cap Locks a rest. Stop drinking coffee or stay off the Ritalin for a day...

2) Apples with Apples.

Don't go all over the show, talking about Lehman, Enron and Transmile...

We are talking construction (sector specific). This is how you begin looking at stocks. It's also called Peer Analysis, by another name.

3) The size of the companies. We want to compare companies of similar size. Which can be challenging, especially here, if we can't find someone else who's also doing Structural Steel?

E.g. Comparing Sycal with Gamuda is a waste of time (like comparing Lehman with Sendai)...

4) When looking at construction sector, you might want to look at the specialities, like equipment (Favelle) or Piling Services (Econpile, Pintaras).

Hey, lets take a step back from this micro ANALysis of the accounts for a moment.

Sendai. Some history.

1983
Eversendai commenced its operations in 1983 as a structural steel erection company in Malaysia and is now a full-fledged matured, dynamic and well-established structural steel turnkey contractor, civil contractor and a specialist power plant contractor with an impeccable International track record.

Eversendai has carved a name for itself as an industry leader in the structural steel design, fabrication and erection of steelwork for high rise buildings, heavy industrial plants, stadiums, steel bridges, roof structures, infrastructure projects and installation of mechanical and electrical works for power plants and industrial plants.

Present:

Most recently, Eversendai ventured into the Oil & Gas market and immediately established the company as a highly capable and skilled fabricator of choice for complex Oil & Gas projects. Eversendai Offshore recently opened a brand new dedicated waterfront Oil & Gas fabrication facility in RAK Maritime City, Ras Al Khaimah, UAE and has seen rapid expansion in this area since its inception.

Point 1)
This company has been and still is a going concern, operational for 35 Years. It has survived multiple downturns Asian Financial, Dot Com, GFC, to outlast other competitors. I think we can all agree that construction is a cut-throat biz/industry.

It shows that the the C-Suite understands and even was able to adapt, taking risks and venturing into the MENA region for work. A good sign. Survival instinct is there. It doesn't rest on its laurels expecting juicy GOVT Contacts like Gamuda etc. Why? Possibly because the boss is not the right colour etc...

Point 2)
O & G downturn in 2014 caught everyone off-guard, leading to payment delays. Im surprised KC has failed to bring this point up. It wouldn't be a stretch to assume others involved in the MENA region, O&G have also faced difficulties.

I'm sure, with the recovery in Brent, we can see some of the payment delays, and backlog be sorted out. Lets wait and see...

Aside:
From and investment standpoint, one has to ask oneself, do I want to invest in construction companies/sector or not? Look at the performance of MRCB, Gamuda, etc. Are they attractive?
Look at the SP Performance. THen make your call.. You needn't spend so much time doing a Deep Dive into accounts. This is a Cyclical and Very Challenging industry, the first to feel any recessionary or 'black swan' type shocks.

you're right kc, should have posted my comment in here instead, for a more positive discussion...

basically, you could use any of your calls, Prolexus, Latitude Tree, ECS, Kfima or even BIMB-wa over the last 2-3 years and LOST money, either by buying such counter with cash OR using margin finance (including interest costs)...

imagine spending long nights doing all that Warren buffet analysis and STILL being stuck for 2 years+!

kcchongnz Posted by arv18 > Mar 20, 2018 12:10 AM | Report Abuse
Um KC, do you really want to go down this road?
Lets take a look at some of your calls
1) Prolexus - Down from ~2.60 to 73 sen today (nice steady downtrend for 2 years)
2) Latitude tree - 8.00 to 3.69 (2 Year downtrend)
3) ECS ICT - 1.78 to 1.14 (2 year downtrend)
4) BIMB-wa - 65 sen to 29 sen
Kfima, Plenitude
On and on it goes...


A reader with a little bit of intelligence would understand this article is about how to read and interpret financial statements, in particular he awareness of cash flow, and not to be fooled by accounting earnings.

I do share a lot of analysis in i3investors, scores if not hundreds of stocks, but purely sharing my analysis, and valuations. I have never made any "calls" to buy any stock.

Please lah, if you wish to comment, you are welcomed, but have some sense and contribute positively.