1.50 then 1.80 :)

Plz go b to 1.80 for me to buy :)

crude oil slumping. best time to collect on weakness. 2.50 is an easy tp :)

Dont need to feel. It is a sure thing. :) rm3.50!!!

1.50 is a very pessimistic tp Haha :)

Tell u what. Rm3.5 is a very reasonable easy tp. Just keep buying :)

Apa pe 14? Now pe 10 only. If it hits rm3.5, then pe 14 la. :)

Joke of the century lol. If drop to rm2, klci will reach 1400. Haha

Rm2??? LOL. Pluck out of the air? Haha

Tomorrow is the last day :)

Resting is for longer journey ahead. Just hang in there. Once panic selling is over, easy money will come again :)

Why mati? Haha. My cost is below rm2. Nth to be scared. Wait for 3.50 :)

I am glad to know that sifu otb is in the game. Can sleep well at night :)

Words of wisdom, Ken Lim. Kasih lu dua like! Haha

Rebounding next week! :)

Would appreciate advice from sifu icon8888 as well :)

How about Mr Otb? What is your view on current market as well as mieco? It seems like most of the investors are backing off from share due to the high potential interest rate hike in Dec. To me, this bloody thing has been in the know of everyone for a very long time and it must have been factored in already. :)

You cant beat insiders' news. HitNRun has 1st hand info. U will cry when you see Q4 results. If you buy now, you will have to hold for a very long time to unlock its value, provided its fundamental doesn't change along the line. To me, i will stay away. Glhf :)

Dont worry. Rainy days will be over soon :) buy when others fear

It is a turn-around bet. Its roic and earning yield <10% (in others words, not efficient n not cheap). But shows sign of improving: its cash flow is healthy, debt reducing, cash reserve increasing. Tp of rm1.5(pe 10 which was the pe right before latest quarter announced) should be easily achievable. So, <rm1.10 is definitely a good bargain with upside margin of >30%. :) what say you?

So low meh. Haha.

What is the next support lvl to go in? :)

Cry for not keeping? Or laosai? :)

No right or wrong to hold or to sell. To hold, it is an opportunity cost coz there are plenty of good promising stocks out there. if you got a crystal ball, can come back here at its lowest point :)

Plz enlighten us hitnrun :)

So what is your call cftrader? Sell or hold? I am not surprised to see this though. Cyclical business nature.

Hitnrun has a crystal ball haha

Haha. One big shark selling. Another big shark buying.

Same for me..wait for rm3.5

Lower compared to the corresponding quarter?

How sure are you about bad Q3? :) 50%? 80%? 100%? 200%? :)

ROIC threshold in my checklist is >12%. Same goes to EY (earning yield). I put a lot of attention on these 2 financial metrics to choose a stock. :)

b123, I am using discounted cash flow model to compute its intrinsic value.
I assume:
Initial cash flow, C0= 13mil (6 years average);
Discount rate, r= 10%;
Growth rate, g= 3%.
Hence, PV= C0*(1+g)/(r-g) = 191.29 mil

Cash = 62.418mil; Debt=1.5mil; Minority Interest=6.04mil
Outstanding share=200.38mil

Intrinsic value = (PV+Cash-Debt-Minority Interest)/Outstanding share = RM1.23

b123, what is your intrinsic value model? Dcf? If so, what kind of growth rate and discount rate you use? Did you consider cash, debt & minority interest?
Personally, i would rather look at ROIC than ROE. Its ROIC is as high as ~14%.

Why why why :)

Based on DCF model, with 3% growth rate & 10% discount rate, take its cash and minority interest into account, its intrinsic value stands at ~RM1.2 (@ PE 13.5 which was the PE value yesterday) :)

Rm6 :)

Kasi lu dua like haha

Mmsv doesn't fulfill the 3rd condition though?

Of course. Btw, what are the key requirements to be listed in main board?

Are you 100% sure? Fact or pure speculation?

Shawnie, where did you get this?

Why run so fast? Much more to come. Sit back and chill la bro. :)

Rosmah mansur, any chance for share split or bonus issue? :)

90c!!! :)

Rm3!!!!

Aiya. Normal la. Price wont move in one straight line up or straight line down. Sit tight n wait for another round of surging up :)

coolio, for PERSTIM, if you look at its past performance quantitatively, every aspect (i.e. growth of net profit, profit margin, current ratio, free cash flow, roe, roic, ey, pe, etc) is outstanding. History doesn't necessarily repeat itself, but it does rhyme. Although investing is about the future, not the past, the economics of the business are usually clearly reflected from its past performance and the actions of the same management. I think you need not to worry so much about their business model. We amateur investors are not the expert of the field to judge how good their business model is. Mechanical quantitative analysis always works the best for ppl like us. Am I not right? :)

can't agree more. but DCF is the best reference/tool that I have for me to determine target price. it is not cast in stone, just a reference. I always try to be as reasonably conservative as I could. However, i do understand that stock price will only move if the company could deliver improving results quarter by quarter. Hopefully mmsv won't dissapoint us :)

Have faith dude :)