... you are welcome, to share from my "guessing assumption workshop" with no guarantee. it about time to accumulated nextnat WA. i remember now, earlier end of OCT 2012 some big timer already wallup lots of WA at 0.65 & 0.70. ""Everthing is ready just waiting for the EAST direction WIND"
i just learned: "Bad Time Best Time" opportunities. Hopefully nextnat supporter won't be let down. Good Luck Every Members Here

... fei mau, i have no insider info, seems to be related to what is relevant to his "baby nextnat future" development.

extracted from website to make things easier for everybody here. shapshot:

1)Protasco + Construction Contracts, Engineering Services, Training and Education, and Trading. The road construction and maintenance activities involve construction of new roads, rehabilitation works, road upgrading, and road maintenance. The Company provides a range of engineering and consultancy services. Kuala Lumpur Infrastructure University College offers a range of foundation, diploma, degree and postgraduate programmes. It is involved in property development at its own 100-acre Unipark Suria. It markets products, such as bitumen, petroleum products, building materials, bridge joints and paving machine. Recently bought 75 per cent in oil and gas outfit PT Anglo Slavic Indonesia (PT ASI Group) from PT Anglo Slavic Utama for US$55 million (RM168 million).

2) PT Inovisi Infracom Tb + telecommunication, energy & resources, oil & gas, power electricity & engineering, shipping & logistic, real estate investments, toll road concessions, Internet, media and e-commerce businesses. PT Graha Tunas Makmur through recent M&O to JV developing Cyberjaya Datacity "property + extra concept".

i believe Tey Poh Yee needs all the ingredients & good partner to come along: the melting pot of "telecommunication, technology: new equipment module through semiconductor partner, heah theare haw s'pore", "land + commercial property: pt graha & protasco???". judging from all the substantial shareholders he does have few good associate & network of partners. he works from his own best known strength i guess.

if whole thing really workout smoothly nextnat will be something, this are "my assumption". maybe you can add more fei mau

fei mau ... indonesia connection, match maker. i don't think he simply invest, this round he used proxy to hide behind the scene.

... yup fei mau, i see there is something "else" he invest in protasco. actual net worth of nextnat is more than 0.105, is time to "re-value" it before cny

... yes, smart guy Teh Poh Yee, fei mau whatsup? with prostasco do you think, he is buying the shares.

.... fei mau invested in nextnat BIG time, 100 over 000' lots. the winner will be declared soon, ... very good opportunity today to top. good luck everybody

.... i see this round they play "steadily" up all the way, fall back chances will be low. more to come

.... fat cat i got you he!he! ... i average down form 0.165 "my assumption" nextnat pivot point remain at 0.135, damn they throw down to 0.09. "if i know" i would have cut lost first and buy in volume from the lowest. what to expect from a newbie of 9 months, weak technical buying & selling. i really "learned" to wait it over and to catch the right price, downtrending selling lesson. sometime i can't guarantee my own "demon of amnesia carelesness"

my personal analysis, virtually everything was "planned" since early 2012, ready to be unleased step by step. they got this contract from taiko PT Inovisi because taiko want to concentrate with other better deal. so now how, cash flow low for infrastructure, equipment, property, borrow from bank? no. rights issue? no they knew it, time consumming and negative public acceptance. private placement is the choice & jv with taiko. they still need more cash fund raising, it will be from the market, from issued warrant, plenty of shares in hand to sell high and buy back low. i see the time is ripe, i could be wrong, it is just paper analysis of the "known info". the hidden hand always poses a risk but i still feel good with nextnat.

since 26/08/05 IPO 252,000,000 shares @0.39, with 2 times bonus issue, 1:2, 1:10 to what is now 2013 594,594,000 shares. they is good future to this company as they really evolve to what is NOW.

... talk2pkc i see you have capital protection strategy & profit taking plan. this is especially good for day trading. be cautious is always healthy, but don't worry too much. there is still underlying worthiness with this counter.

.... yeah fatcat 0.10 / 0.105 / 0.11 already a good enough entry price. bought 0.105 during 04/2012. this is my 3rd round of buy & sell
... remember comrade here earlier private placement above this price although they are compensated with 1.5 free warrant per share.
... i am still holding at 0.135 (average down 6X)so those bought 0.10/0.105 should make better money than i do.
... as for NEXTNAT there is no way to run except staying where they are now or UP. stage 1 will be 0.115, then 0.135 if they break through 0.155 and stay, BIG time is comming. don't this round they want to play up fast or make it steadily up
... to UP towards 0.20 is a bit too premature at this moment. it needs to be supported by more substantial good news. 0.135 is more realistic TP at the moment.
... Wish every here Happy Profitting with this counter

yeah fatcat if we can read their buy sell move ... this counter i go for long term. darrenliew nice hearing from you will feedback to you soon.

thanks kcchongnz & aunloke for the invalueble input and advice.
1) My 9 mths span the only CW i bought, thats was MAS, my carelessness serve me, premium at 50%, yeah it is the gearing that counts, to high
2) Of Manipulation: IB or company issuer Warrant will manipulate big time, deceptively luring everyone into the set up trap. virtually almost all counters are manipulated. this i well aware of
3) Choice: i believe my intensiveness & effort will pay off as i have make trading my career. have to revise my profit taking strategy. i did experience profitting every alternate day for 2 mths. recently lost my swing, temporary set back.
4) Duration: some i held more than 6 mths, some for days. will planned for term.

In the end they is no one i am dealing with accept myself making decision in buying and selling. Alway subtle emotion will come into play that will manipulate your mind. i will break it down not matter what. Thanks to all the well wishes concern here, i will be back to share. 2013 shall be an interesting year. GO GO GO

... today will be 0.115 ... more will be coming next

....pt inovisi??? that will be interesting. one idiot test water throwing at 0.105

..... already ACTIVATED ... waiting for the show ... maybe another updating announcement

.... total losses -24% year 2012 with my 6 figure cap. best year for me as a 9 months, learning & watching intensively every trading day full time, hate holiday. should have gain around 8%, but 1 CW mistake wipe it out 14%. cash used up, so play contra loss another 10% for the last 2 months. best perfoming counter for me NEXTNAT. what i learned: play contra is all about time eating you up. experience cannot be taught, you need to fully participate, pain & losses is the best teacher, emotion will play havoc to you focus & will. thanks to all here bro, sis, sifu for sharing in this i3forum. really learned from all the SHARINGs, appreciative

... yup drse, jesse livermore trading rule fromhis long experience. average down if you have capital, i did learn to average down before with many counter. it also on depend which counter you are playing. most of the time cut loss early works better for me, let it fall, buy back later. cheers HAPPY NEW YEAR to all Folks HERE

... i am not attacking anyone here, just stating MY OWN facts. being EMOTIONAL in share market will not help either. yet i did make cautious remark on WCT WB for all over-zeolous buyers in bro chong forum, bro chong did agree with my comment. averaging down is way if you have confident in it .... cut a bit loss & buy back later is not bad either ... the advantage of freeing up locked capital for other MOVING counter, isn't this more cost effective.

... no one is perfect in shares market, this include chong. everyone does have his point & believe in recommendation of a stock. some counters recommended by chong did work and members are profitting. as i am newbie when i bought into mas cg which i lost badly yet not blaming no one, earlier he did said mas will be on track by the time, last minute rights issue, bloody epf press it down further. after all i learned then any counter when substantial shareholder keeps selling is bad signal enough to enter, remember epf have all the insider info. "smartag" which i got out early as i detected someone is already throwing down before the quarterly result. i did make little profit here. i will never follow blindly for any recommendation, risk is always there, is my hard earned money i need to protect. some chong recommendation takes a long time, digistar is one though the company is intact. smartag maybe a good "BET", price is low enough, yet i can't afford to wait too long. will buy when the volume starts to build and signal is there. try going to chrischootrade, he does have a very point from years of experience.

.... yuup Bingo darerenliew, cannot afford to close one eye if you have invested in shares, have to be constant in monitoring. well, another way they can raise more fund is through the WA, pump up the mother above 20 sen, sell the WA in hand, support the mother & don't let it fall. buyer will likely to exercise the warrant, more fund for expansion. i believe they will do it, is a matter of time & when. detailed announcement of JV with PT Inovisi Infracom, signing of contract will push the share price up. bear in mind PT Inovisi is no "small fry", it is a RM5Billion market cap company.

... yes thats the way raydalio, it came back 0.04 to what is NOW 0.105
in share investing no matter how good a share is, there is no guarantee, risk is always there and unforeseen circumstances & development. the "con" with nextnat is their cash flow, receivable takes too long. Earning & Asset is what really count, give them some time to make things happened.

.... yup! thank you darrenliew for the correction, i just remove it so as not to mislead others. should be 50 million shares (RM5.2 Million) pledged security for 3rd party loan ... is a big relieve to hear that 50 vs 200 big difference ... sorry for the mistake, thanks again here

... yes there is no other way except lying ZZZzzz ... they can't afford to go low

.... is time for uptrending, ready

tuahuat ... 60 sen i will be half a millionaire, only if they goreng BIG time in 2013, ... realistically 20 to 30 will do, of else the indo will start shouting, my earlier info the indon big boss will not tolerate overly FRIED which don't reflect their actual value.

thanks for the info raydalio, tuahuat i am not very good in reading mandarin, should be financial report lately. Heah Theare Haw a m'sian, sustantial shareholder 8.4% in NEXTNAT & 6.3% in ASTI sg listed semiconductor manufacturing. i can see the relationship, platform infrastructure services, cyberjaya datacity, indonesia pt innovisi infracom ... sound more like technology upgrading which they badly needly to remain competitive. hopefully it is a healthy development with good intention? and lately tey poh yee with protasco ... the BREW
"strategic positioning sun tze art of war" ... let see ... thank everyone here for contributing, let us do homework together with the bits & pieces and dissect it until we get it

.... at 0.10 "Waiting Buyers desperate to buy cheap2 who don't mind to wait" matched with "Whatsoever Reasons Rushing Sellers" ... so deal done .... any quickie profit depends how trained we are to read the uptrending signal

... i sense directors attempt to buy back more shares from the market to increase their holding. cheap cheap to them, some other plan in mind?

... this is a retailer's counter not institution, ... it will come no matter what ... just need more time + good news

... please do home work Tuahuat check their earning & audited report from bursa, 4 sen counter likely to be at the verge of PN17 or bankrupt ex. SAAG, SILVERBIRD rights issue, capital reduction. company that did well will not come cheap, when someone saw your worth like a raw diamond, sparkling earning and cheap cheap, they will wallop all from the market. i believe everyone will be hunting for it, low cost affordability. no such thing at ONE GO JACKPOT, unless you are willing to take a high risk lossing all ex. call warrant. why not you go for the son, company issued warrant "W" with low premium. i believe everyone here wants "jackpot early retirement", remember they is no guarantee in life as well as in the market, risk, greed, ignorance & fear are always there waiting to swallow you alive, too many man made factor at play or manipulate, that's what the market is. you can ask EPF how you "play" the market every trading day and pay us dividend annually. the fact is that someone else has to lose to pay, someone else loss is someone else gain. any exception "win win"??? yes they is, it is for every of us to find out ourselves, i am still a learner here

... previously no good company, making losses, share price at 0.04 plus all the rights issue. i think they try to spread their wing too far too wide, finally they sell away all those lost making company, they should have stayed focus in indonesia "the fastest growing developing overly populated country". lately they did the right move to put themselve into gearing. the subtance and potential is there to be tapped. profit not that remarkable at the season but still profit. stay on if you believe with homework done ...

..... i don't think so because the 2B market cap INDON will not be the substantial shareholder, and give you 3 years contract, and don't even mention JV in the Cyberjaya Project, yes their receivables takes a longer time to be collected. as of the quarterly report i already anticipated due to change as "web platform hosting and mobile messaging gateway services" has since shifted away from the mobile telecommunications space to "platform infrastructure services". you can read it from bursa under TA research report. so at the brink to be PN17 company ... CIMB approved loan for Land Purchase, .... director buying PRTASCO shares, ... selling of unprofitable company ... new project ..... still PN17??? ..... pleaseeeeeeee
.... don't be lax in doing your own research, everybody can say anything ... check it out for yourself before jumping in ....

... already mentioned JV with PT Innovasi, thats where they will push up before announcement

... already anticipated quarterly result so so & judging by the shares price lately .... doesn't matter more good news will be coming latter

.... no intention rebound today remain at 0.185 / 0.190

... knew it getting hot few months ago, hope to get cheaper but it never came to me, those bought 55 sen holding laughing all the way ... good holding potential, still studying their financial cash flow before jumping in for long term. i still believe they will not simply push down the share down the shares price judging by the company performance lately, they want it to appreciate steadily. yes those Big brand don't actually "focus" with single item ex. dutch lady is more about milk, too much of food science concoction. i guess they struck the cord with the name "ALICAFE" with the middle eastern and then things just happened. coffee + rainforest herbs + islamic country. malaysian coffee does have it uniqueness, especially white coffee making in road to china ....

... will it reached back "natural bio ipo price @ 1.48 14/05/2007", highly possible, oversea sales especially middle east is very good

... tuahuat yah big boy selling, owner & retailers are buying at 0.10, told you this counter they like to play left right pocket to create volume, at least private placement 11.5 sen, how low can go, at one time down to 8 sen during june not much volume to buy. my average still at 0.13 do overly worried, you have to keep & hold

... upper bid volume somehow reduce, show time next week or sideway ??? standby ok

... hope so, they could make it lower then 0.18 yet didn't, likely to become stagnant for a while before rebound

.... dare not to lower than 0.355, big sharks collecting before the next WAVE, maybe today???

drop further .... then reverse UP

....collecting??? most i believe have paper LOSS, only through experience in selective collecting at the right price creates paper GAIN, the irony of this capitalist share market someone else have to lose in order to feed the gainers. there is nothing ethical here, is game of choice. AK GAINED by exploiting the bursa loop holes & financial system, creative accounting ang the gang of hyena. i never believe he is filfthy billionaire, he is actually the poorest man by making more people becoming poor by manupulating "human weakness of greed & fear". well he just love money that's what creates him today, exact opposite of his only begotten son a buddhist monk. many come here to cari makan, most get burnt, it includes me. to me the share market is journey to know myself in action, thoughts and decision. the choice is always with us. correct me if i am wrong

jason777 after market trading announcement, tey poh yee is nextnat director founder bought over 80 million protasco shares averaging around 0.97 per shares, that translated to RM 78 million, i think he got better thinks to do than spending the money to buy protasco shares.
i think quarterly result maybe SO SO, anything better will be a booster

of course, what other ways except disposing 249 million shares or extra 373 million shares RM 220 Million rights issue. last 5 days disposed 10 million shares. today break up is for show??? if it is "serious" full support will be at 0.76. well see how is the line up tomorrow morning, whether they will be another rebound or throw down

... Tey Poh Yee acquires more shares of Protasco, very likely Protasco will be the developer for the Cyberjaya Datacity Project. HOLD something good will be coming.

... stage 1 HELL Break Loose starts at 0.695 and signal at 0.70 this round no guts to buy, touching 0.76 and falls back to 0.735 and closing at 0.74. EPF selling over ??? Hunting seasons??? will go for the CW if does rally toward 0.80 region. hopefully stage 2 Hell Break Loose starts tomorrow .... good luck

almost 13,000,000 disposed at 0.10 partly maybe force sell because i saw they move their higher parking from 0.11, 0.105 towards 0.10, lets see tomorrow

after all my complain without support, at least support level at 0.68, 0.67. how long it can hold till it break?

Q result 28 DEC ... normal lah, just have some "confidence" ... typical behaviour of nextnat.