Wahai Dragon yang mulia ... ini kakisaham dah tangkap rentak C sama H ... toleh kiri kanan ikut rentak tausah ingat banyak ... pertama jangan tamak ... beli je terus baris 5 sen ... mata tajam boleh bau berubahan ... tak betul pancung je ... dah turun mesti naik balik ... dah naik pasti turun ... merah api boleh bikin wang ... ingat jangan tamak 2-3 sen cabut ... boleh masuk balik nanti ... 2-3 round boleh main ... ingat jangan main api kalau tak pandai ... kakakaaa

Aiyoyoo kakisaham tu sebab aku cakap you bagus main hantam berani cabut dapat rezeki ... ikut saja mata tengok kiri kanan ... kikiki ... tak payah ikut otak pikir banyak banyak ... sapu mana kaunter yang sesuai bukan semua orang boleh oh ... kena kaji jugak ... hahahakakaka

kakisaham pandai buat homework ... tangkap jerung punya tactic ... kajian gua lain sikit ... based on index china50 chart 5 min / 15 min ... dari Chart 15 min sambungan semalam, masih ada horse power lagi ... pagi patut tumpu pada C dulu ... tadi cakap C signal ada lemah tapi tak mati, index 15 signal tunjuk turun sikit ... kemungkinan besar C ada daya forward lagi monday ... kalau tak betul pancung dulu nanti boleh beli balik ... selain dari itu pilihan kaunter kena kira berapa banyak volume transaction ... kalau banyak sangat jual kat harga rendah jerung tak mahu tolak naik ... mahu tolak pun sikit saja atau main tolak naik pakai volume kecil ... ini macam jerung boleh elak kena hantam ... kakisaham you boleh tangkap jerung 5 sen punya main cukup bagus, tak payah tengok chart pun boleh untung ber tong tong ... hahaha

kakisaham tu H1 belum betul lagi ... semalam index naik spatut turun tapi dia main naik ... jerung mahu kasi perangkap ... lepas semua yang pegang sudah jual ... baru hari yang betul dia tolak naik ... betul tak

i ucapkan tahniah kakisaham ... you betul betul china50 punya champion ... huat ah ... hahaha

kakisaham you hantam kaunter C mana hari ni? ... you betul betul pandai main ... boleh tangkap tu jerung punya haluan

4468 betul cakap i no sifu here ... kakisaham cakap betul ... itu china50 punya indicator signal ada tunjuk sikit ... jaga jaga semua tu risiko sendiri tanggung ... kalau ikut signal 15min C sudah lemah tapi belum mati ... good luck semua

Tukar direction H punya turn

i sekarang pergi sekolah ... itu china50 punya chart 5min 15 min kena jaga setiap min ... haluan angin boleh tukar ... tapi i punya signal delay sikit pakai free punya ini macam lah ... tengok jerung macq punya main

aiyoyoo 4468 ... serupa mahjong ini macam ... jatuh sikit saja ... momentum signal masih kuat ... you beli 0.415 pukul 11.00am ... left right untung sikit cukup lah ... macam ini pusing main boleh kaya ... hahaha

tahniah 4468 ... pilihan cun ... china50 sama hsi index rebound ... masih mahu naik ... kalau tukar direction sstand by "H" punya logo ... CO pun naik tapi tak banyak jerung tolak pakai volume kecik ... good luck 4468

Borak borak je 4468 ... asalkan tak rugi ... i cuma study tu chart tengok jerung punya main ... i cakap tak logic itu pun salah ... jerung punya logic bukan ikut gua punya logic ... itu warrant memang dia punya baby mah ... mesti pandai silat sikit ... kalau i tak salah c1 pun sama jugak ... lepas hari banyak jual ... tolak naik bilis untung banyak ... itu sebab gerak sikit volume pun kurang ... haha

4468 itu jerung macq manyak pandai kung hustle berhenti kerja ... bukan lost direction ... dia kasi naik nanti dia rugi betul ... jerung sengaja kasi drag sampai HSI tukar direction ... A50-H1 mana ada logic index rebound dia naik ... main main kecik tak ada problem ... main besar jangan ... semua bb factor

Aiyoyoo 4468 you beli tu HSI-CO kan ... patutnya dah naik busuk busuk 0.365, apasah takdah? ... 2 - 3 hari lepas jerung sudah banyak jual ... banyak masih pegang jerung pun pandai berenang lain tempat pergi tak mahu terbit dulu.

aiyoyoo kaq8864 gua tabik sama lu ini macam punya market lu pandai cari rezeki ... kais pagi makan pagi kais petang makan petang ... no leftover ... lagu sedih boleh tukar rentak pop sikit ...

dragon ... aiya lu lupa itu transformers dekat mahu mari sudah age of extinction ... wayang jugak ... ah jib memang kena sabo kau kau left right and center ... bukan cerita baru wang pakai election ... berpuluh tahun sudah macam gini ... sekarang musim hantu mah ... kedai kopi whatapps ke ... nampak bayang saja sudah cakap hantu ... otak semua hantu ... bagus! end of the day tak ada orang salah ... sebab salahkan hantu ... hantu lenyap jalan bursa tak lenyap mah ... biar tunggu Ong Bak III IV mari kasi lu sedap hati ...

bagus ini macam dragon ... karang guni punya niaga pun bagus jugak ... besi buruk kasi simpan tunggu harga naik jual saja ... lepas tu beli besi buruk lagi man tak huat ini macam ... tak payah susah mah ... ini hari manyak lagu sedih siaran non stop ... manalah hati tak susah ... aiyoyoo

... karung guni kutip kutip manyak rajin ... market buruk pun jerung pun kerja kuat sugak ... old newspaper ... bateri lama ...

Aiyoyoo dragon ... kita punya otak selalu ingat ada graduate ... itu sekolah manyak tipu punya i punya kawan tua belajar tinggi tinggi cakap ... if you look at the universe what it tells you ... no end infinite ... form and appearance are temporary ... and than it change, adapt and evolve ... the universe is expanding ... tu ombak belakang tolak ombak depan ... getting out of our comfort zone is where life begins ... i know i don't know ... itu semua aku cut and paste punya rojak ... sorry yah ... hahaha

... sorrylah chong75 to see your frustration ... market rosak buruk bye bye bye presenting the best opportunity perfect storm ... jangan susah hati ... kalau cimb dlady nestle sime jadi 70% disc ... gua pun buy buy buy ... ini tok guru punya pantun sikit:

naik turun perkara biasa
tak kira bagus macam mana kaunter
jual beli kena tepat masa
untung rugi bukan pasal kaunter

“all event and experience are opportunities. Nothing more nothing less
but opportunities, take heed” message from the divine, Conversation with God

Daragon I no sifulah ... gua ni masih murid sekolah ... banyak barang mahu ingat belajar sama tok guru ... tok guru selalu kasi reminder banyak terimakasih ...
is always a real challenge detecting the right wave ... not so simple as 12345abc count ... if so easy 12345678 everybody also huat tua tua ... jerung pun tukar jadi ikan bilis ... tok guru cakap ada betul ... right wave is important ... confusion arises when a trader attempts to impose elliott wave analysis on a market trend that isn’t reflecting that pattern ... itu bb intention; distribution, accumulation, sideline lost trend nil cycle apa macam? ... kena factor in buat compensation ... apply correctly yields some of the lowest risk, highest reward trades ... jesse livermore punya lesson "the art of waiting and patience" ... apa mahu bikin tunggu tunggu ini sabar saja? ... because waiting for the right wave pattern to be present, valid tradable ... that's the "right wave" criteria ... aku punya holland village advise ... hahaha ...

Yes, Sir ... sekarang i boleh cam sikit tok guru punya cakap ... baru mula surfing wave 1 siang lagi ... market apa pun boleh terjadi ... kalau market gegar ... BB pun ikut turun gear collection balik ... market recover dia tekan button resume ... dia orang panggil "shares market complex adaptive system" ... maksud market tu ada nyawa sendiri mungkin 9 life super cycle wave ... i ingat dragon punya spy drone sekarang sudah canggih ... dah pasang camera latest imaging spec ... orang bawa tanah rokok jenama brand boleh nampak ... sekejab hari upgrage facial recognition ...mana boleh fight lagi ... mahu belajar sama itu naga leh ... aiyoyoo

Wahai dragon pendekar ... mana pegi satu hari tinggal 225 123 63 mari saja ... capital semalam jatuh 3.36 rebound balik 3.50 ... bac dari 17.72 jatuh 16.86 tapi rebound belum nampak ... grexit punya cerita bb kasi sikit correction ... platform betul misti take off ... injin hiccup pun boleh hidup balik ... itu sebab tok guru selalu cakap beli masa mahu tepat bukan main tembak ... itu platform waterfall tak boleh cakap lah ... aiyoyoo

... karang guni itu wave c kena tunggu jugak ... bb tengah kutip besi buruk ... rebound sikit naik ada KFC ... haha

... itu suma punya reban betul tak dragon ... boss panggil tengok sikit ... i ingat boleh ada kfc tapi kena tunggu sikit hari ...

dragon sudah pandai pakai aeroplane ... minyak terbang 3/4 tong full sudah bagus ... lama lama mesti full tank

Lucky dragon ... Q sama sama Q... your question also push me to the edge ... upgraded to refine version which I overlook previously ... sifu steps is never ever an accident ... powerful compounding effect ... i am thankful to have him here ... blessed are those with a sincere heart can witness the true revelation ... further explanation isn't necessary ... understand the two job and all the auntie ah soh yee mah ku jeh waves business ... on your the way to mastery ... kam sa ha mi da LT cheers i read the whole picture of your american dream ... cheers

Lucky Dragon ... got sifu point out the details ... I no expert here but will like to share with you ... let me highlight a few important points by LT and extend it by using Frontkn as an example

1)Identify the Peak of the Trend - Wave 5 (Bull ended) ... a Trend is an EVENT (Crowd behavior ebbs and flows) .... not a single price action ... the sum of the parts ... EACH Wave got stages ( smaller degree of waves ) to make it complete ... no straight line ... the Start point and the End point

2)Wave C started Tue 23 Jun, LT is correct. Wave 5 end on 21 May is the Wave A start point ... Wave A end on 16 Jun ... can you see the the sub waves or stages of Wave A before it ends.

3) Not easy to identify the A and B Waves ... we may read Wave A end on 29 May and Wave B end on 3 Jun ... is always a challenge for a trader to identify it ... BB may have unfinished quota to dispose ... BB intention creates the extension waves (extra time) ... advance level elliot waves reader is able to compensate the extension by including the zig zag abc wxyz smaller degree waves ... I don't want to complicate you here ... follow LT simpler model ... it works ... when you know ABC corrective wave is BEAR Wave Countdown BEWARE that is enough

4) Often in US Market USD1 stock can shoot up to USD50 or higher ... here you get a taste of elliot waves CYCLE ... 12345abc creates 1st cycle and than moves to 2nd cycle 12345abc ... stock price of each new cycle moves higher than the last cycle ... it takes longer period of time to build up the cycle ... capital is moving to a higher degree cycle

... just sharing and I maybe wrong

you are right ... bonus issue will change the chart pattern ... than treat it as a pattern ... just don't add opinion ... technical analyst see and focus on the pattern first ... explaination later

dragon ... see chart don't mix rojak with ... bonus issue, rights issue, split, consolidation ... i make same mistake like you last time ... to know them exist is enough ... don't form opinion ... just strictly 100% technical ... objectively ... if you violate this this rule ... you can't have the picture right ... not to mentioned the real picture ... the day will come you will be converted and convinced 100% ... LT is a good enough example ... of course there certain common sense adjustment to apply ... not blindly follow.

Sifu ... based on All Years Chart since 1990 provide by wall street journal I can see 2004 is the beginning of 1st Wave count and now another Wave 1 just started not even complete yet.

aiyo dragon see chart don't campur the bonus issue first ... omit it and treat it as a trend pattern ... if not cannot be objective ... i understand your dilemma

Bingo sifu ... we both have it ... mine tally with yours

... bikin correction sikit
LT cakap betul ... capitaland baru saja masuk OngBak 1 ...
From Peak SGD 8.75 (2007) it fall to the lowest SGD 1.70 (2009) ... take note here ... Wave C lowest SGD never break lower than SGD 0.94 (1998) & 0.98 (2003). It means capitaland Trend keeps on building itself upward, NOT reversing like penny stock
1) Lowest bottom - 2009 SGD 1.70 Wave C
2) Lower High - 2011 SGD 2.19
3) Lower Higher - March 2014 SGD 2.68
Wave C zig zag completed ... new cycle begin ... safe voyage dragon
Correct me if I am wrong.

I busybody sikit ... itu capitaland tak payah takut ... masih boleh pigi cuma perlukan lebih masa ... kalau BB kostan main correction ... boleh jual dulu nanti beli balik mah ... i tengok long way to go ... sure can break SGD4 above

Aiyoyo dragon ... itu CERITA or BB mahu tahu beza baru boleh tangkap ... cerita = angin ... BB = niat .. the will ... chart tak ikut cerita ... chart tunjuk ... tapi BB boleh main ikut cerita or tak ikut cerita ... kalau ini boleh tangkap ... pintu chart punya rahsia terbuka ... ali baba ... open sesame ... beli saham ikut cerita ABC ..ZZZZZZ mana satu ikut ... mata pun boleh terkeluar baca banyak banyak ... aiseh mulut gua banyak cakap sorry ya ... haha

dragon ... Boss bukan simply cakap ... airasia good for case study ... mahu belajar Ong-Bak 2 Tony Jaa punya rentak. Itu Wave C dari June 2013 sampai sikalang belum complete lagi ... panjang masa.

Aiyoyo sifu you cakap betul lah airasia nampak ekor saja ... kepala sudah sembunyi macam burung unta ... cerita sikit for fun ... bila tengok blog itu news pandai bikin cerita ini itu ... gua senyum saja

... mahu panjat pokok tualang 300 kaki baru boleh dapat madu ... panjat tinggi tinggi dapat gambar besar keseluruhan ... tengok balik chart dua tiga tahun ... senang sikit tengok chart satu minggu pun boleh ... BB perlukan masa buat persediaan ... asiabio you nampak sekarang dua tiga tahun sudah plan ... jangan tidur atau bikin rumah atas pokok ... jatuh ke kena panah petir nantiu susah ... hahaha

Aiyoyoo Dragon ... 28 Dec 2014 bukan cerita sebenarlah ... Sep 2013 BB sudah mahu kasi turun ... NIAT BB sudah mahu kasi turun mah ... NOV DEC itu last celebration ... itu cerita alasan tak betul lah ... aiyoyo ... sorry mungkin gua salah terbalik baca

kopipeng668 I bukan expert ... main saham US punya sifu ... cerita sikit boleh lah .
dragon aiyoyooo ... itu Airasia punya cerita boleh percaya kah? ... tony cakap macam very convincing ... Chart Nov 2014 BB sudah start disposing ... siang siang sudah plan mahu pigi holland ... itu masa jugak ada cerita crude oil falling fuel cost turun mesti untung banyak next quarter ... Airasia is the beneficiary blah blah tayangan hollywood ... ikut chart mana ada salah ... isyarat tukar haluan flashing ... frontkn cerita pun serupa jugak BB bikin kenduri besar jemput semua makan ... LS cakap betul ... siang siang sudah kasi tahu ... downtrend big correction ... jaga jaga ... too much stories & explaination cause us to live in a state of denial

dragon ... belajar mah ... i sama sama lu selalu baca chart terbalik masuk longkang ... taklah cun leh ... tak ada orang ajar mah mahu rajin sikit ... sudah full time reban jalan bursa ... sifu kasi tip sendiri cari detail proof loh ... hari hari mahu tanya paisek leh ... sekarang ada confident sikit ... dulu baca chart banyak keliru pening kepala ... sikalang boleh tangkap lebih sikit loh ... betul cakap itu ayat " no one size fits all " model ... must apply common sense ... LS punya model I cipta ayat sikit dekat sini ... jangan marah ya ... "Lao TZe Commom Sense + Velocity Momentum Indicator".
Itu Brent Crude senang sikit kasi saya belajar elliott waves ... sebab ada history ... cycle pun panjang ... nasiblah terjumpa buka minda ... gold silver aluminum ... boleh pakai jugak

LS is correct, buying during the starting of waves C is risky. The term and condition he mentioned is actually the extension of the corrective waves ... very confusing to a lot of people and many arguement too. To make it simple the REAL Waves C must reached the bottom of the downtrend. This is the complete C wave. A rule cannot be violated. The next cycle wave 1 will take a long time to begin especially penny counters.

For example using UKOIL brent crude oil "1 month chart" as a guide.
Wave 5 Peak at USD 146 (July 2008)
Wave C Lowest at USD 45 (January 2015)
Now a new cycle uptrend of Wave 1 (USD 60 - 66)is just the beginning. There are smaller waves along the journey to make Wave 1 complete. I am trying my best to explain. To detect the completion of the each waves is our job ... we need other indicators help ... cannot blindly go alone with elliott waves ... my 2 cents ... masih belajar

dragon ... itu 0.79 - 1.42 punya wave lu mahu panggil apa? Kalau panggil Wave 1 maksudnya sikalang dari 1.42 turun 1.18 panggil Wave 2 betul tak? Kalau macam gitu Waves 3 mesti jadi uptrend balik harga akan naik lebih dari 1.42 ... tak boleh violate elliott wave theory. Kedua kalau Wave 2 harga tak boleh turun lebih 100% of Waves 1 itu pun sudah violation. Apa yang kita faham IFCA sikalang downtrend ... bullish cycle 12345 sudah complete ... the beginning of bearish cycle.

Betul you cakap dragon ... 1.57-0.79 itu Wave C ... senang keliru ... sebenarnya waves C mestilah yang paling bottom in order to begin another bullish new cycle. The critical point is here : Wave C NOT Complete yet ... still got extension (sub-waves)called zig zag sometimes got single , double, triple zig zag WXYZ ... yang rebound balik 1.42 itu panggil X waves. Correction waves always have this kind of confusion. Check this out dragon (under double zig zag title)
http://d.stockcharts.com/school/data/media/chart_school/market_analysis/identifying_ellott_wave_patterns/wave21.png

Sama sama belajar.

dragon ... sikalang IFCA sudah masuk wave C ... dulu peak 1.87 itu wave 5 ... jatuh 1.31 wave A ... bounce balik 1.57 wave B ... terjun 0.79 wave C ... journey wave C masih banyak sub wave abcde wxyz bukan main cakap betul ... wave C downtrend punya direction ... jugak di panggil ... corrective wave ... and correction perlukan masa panjang baru complete ... chart tak ada tipu orang ... leave nothing but your foot print ... chart shows all the record ... lidah boleh belit ... itu ceo mahu you beli dia bikin cerita besar ... tahi cakap emas ... sorrylah bruther ... aku ikut saja ... sama sama belajar

dragon ... mahu terbalik sikit kalau tahu belajar TA ... itu cerita langsung tak mahu layan ... puasa sikit ... tengok candle light ... tough job ... lama lama jatuh cinta ... big money in the waiting ... dulu punya wall street legend Richard D Wyckoff, Jesse Livermore pun baca tape reading saja ... masa I tahu manyak terkejut ... wu yah boh ... sifu LS pun sama ... proven track record ... lain semua tak ada ikut ... cerita tak ada banyak bosan ... aiyoyooooooooooooo

dragon ... hati mahu betul ... sabar tu modal ... hati tak tenang tak boleh paham tak nampak apa apa ... lompat lompat nanti masuk longkang ... chart mudah kasi confused ... setiap gerakan ada maksud ... niat BB, tengah bikin apa ? ... BB pandai buat wayang palsu ... mahu kutip ke atau mahu buang ... macam asiabio sekarang baru sifu beli ... tepat masa sebab correction dah surut .. tapi BB belum habis kutip lagi masih mahu lagi ... LS tu veteran banyak pengalaman ... dah tahu ada small rise ... untung short term ... semua tak boleh janji sebab BB tengah bikin kerja ... kadang kadang ada berubahan jugak tak diduga ... itu BB punya reban dia mahu betul betul jaga bukan senag kasi orang main ... waves theory bukan susah ... sorry leh I pun tengah belajar ... pandai pandai cakap saja ... hehe

Laotze ... old car never mind mah ... 4 roda tak payah kena hujan ... boleh sampai destinasi dah bersyukur ... mahu tunjuk tunjuk buat apa ... mahu tukar baru duduk sedap sikit besi kuat itu patut ... jangan lupa kami yang miskin sini ... lemah ilmu ... tengok pun tak tahu itu apa ... selalu masuk longkang ... hahaha

Betul lah Laotze ... I pun ada study BAC sudah nampak dia punya future long way to go ... sekarang punya untung belum cukup besar lagi ... itu sebab saya cakap BIG MONEY in the WAITING ... wang besar tunggu sama luh sifu ... I beginner punya level boleh tahu BAC no need to worry ... tidur nyenyak mimpi manis ... macam cerita the elves & the shoemaker ... tidur wang boleh masuk ... Wall Street tectonic plate gegar satu dunia koyak

dragon youpun pandai punya orang manyak experience ... itu lenger mana tahu yang sebenar ... siapa pun tak ada perfect mah betul tak ... you kali kali korek salah saja ... mana tak belajar ... hati mahu betul ... kalau tidak tak boleh tangkap ... duit depan pintu nampak tahi ... jaga jaga

Aiyoyo ... Dragon you ada percaya ... ini sifu tak payah susah baca banyak banyak lah ... macam kita. 100% technical system. Mesti belajar betul betul sama dia. Tidur pun boleh bikin wang mah ... gua tabik

Congratulation to Laotze, very good foresight.
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