Happy Boxing Day.

Sorry above is for vivodoom not Vivocom.

Vivocom, thank you for your advise. I believe most of the Vivocom investors here in i3 are actually very nice people. Hopefully will receive only good karma. Bad karma can reserve to other deserving ones. Let's worry less . Can age faster n not good for health.

goldentriangle, well said. Buying a good stock and having lots and lots of patience is the key. Now trying my best to be patient and so far still at it.!

Hello nice and good people, lets not speculate and try to guess what the trend is as it will only cause more anxiety and sometimes more disappointment. If you think Vivo is good, like some sifus say then buy and it will in the long run have its price reflecting its fundamentals. Of course if you all have been following this counter for a reasonable period of time, you would have noticed that the going had been rather choppy and how long it will remain we ordinary people will not know. We can only buy if we believe and wait. Should there be any short term traders and syndicates plying their trade in this counter it is their right and there is nothing we can do . We can only hope not to sell cheap to them because that is how these people can make more money . Creating fear and panic and making money even if the share price move up or down by some small amount. If that is what they want then let it be and hopefully if we become wise to their ways then they will find it increasingly difficult to make more money but to let the price move up to reflect the true fundamentals.

Lets profit from our mistakes ( if any ) and we learn to do better the next time. ok? I am losing money right now and I believe I will make back my losses and even make more in the longer term. Hopefully Vivocom do not let me down ok? ha ha. Vivocom Rock !

DoraCuties, CKNYAM has a point here. Please be patient unless you are a trader. Time is needed for our investments to bear fruit. Not easy to be patient though.

Goldentriangle, well said.

B4b4, well said about your Darling! Its like the story of the ugly duckling..(http://www.worldstory.net/en/stories/the_ugly_duckling.html ).

Give this "Darling", time and be patient.

To all those doubters, who are taunting the others, make sure you are still around when the Vivocom's share price go climbing up North. "You may win the battle now, and we shall win the War "!

In this forum there is some people we call "Nang boh ti nang kui boh ti kui !". Just a word of advise for those new here in this forum. They may cause you to panic sell and lose your pants ! Good luck and best to resist being a market timer. It is most stressful !

Sing Investor, good to see you here. By the way, I look forward to Vivocom going to MB next year.

Darth, I wish I have the answers to help you clear some of your doubts. Unfortunately I am sorry I do not and even if I have it is only my 2 cts opinion and beliefs. Guess I will not be able to satisfy your needs. If I am not wrong I think the BOD will not be able to give you all the answers here.

Do reflect why you had bought Vivocom in the first place. What are your expectations ? Do you know enough of Vivocom and have confidence in them before you bought the shares.? Have they delivered so far ? If yes good then hold on to the shares provided you still have them. If not then you have to make a calculated decision whether it is worth to hold or sell or give them more time to deliver and then make the final decision or move to another share which satisfies most or all of your investment criteria.

Perhaps it might help to go look up the Bloomberg interviews with Mr. Choo and you will find some answers to your questions .

Just my 2 cts and most sorry I do not have the answers to be of much help.

All the best to you !

" Dean Hawkes of Columbia University said that "half the worry in the world is caused by people trying to make decisions before they have sufficient knowledge on which to base a decision."

http://www.westegg.com/unmaintained/carnegie/stop-worry.html

Sorry typo mistake above.

"Now somebody wondering why share price can't move up !"

"Hi nice people in this i3 Vivocom forum. Happy morning.

Looking at the very low volume of trades done and price change, one question comes to my mind. Are we trying to * Squeeze water from a stone or getting blood from a stone ?"

Many people would have lost money.
Some will sell at a loss and never to come back and or move to other counters.
People with money will be scared to buy more.
People with money buy and then lose more money.
People with money will buy if and only when the price drops further.
People with money will buy if and only when they see an uptrend which is sustainable.
People with money will say why waste my time here with all the negative news flying
around. Better buy other counters.
People with money will not buy after reading why this counter do not give dividends as
they did not know why the company did not want to give dividends to conserve cash and
only undertake pp instead as more cost effective.
People with money will not buy if people still keep on harping already so many shares why keep on issuing more shares with pp. Perhaps they did not know there is something called share consolidation.
People with money will just wait and see. Nothing happens !

The above is just food for thought ok? If we continue to do the same thing over and over again, it will take a long long time and very difficult to see a Sustainable Uptrend.

How to make more money if people gets poorer?????"

I wrote the above a few days ago.
Now somebody wondering why share price can move up !
Some people are trying to make more money by making others lose money !
People have become wiser !
Now all sit and watch ! How long do they want to play this game ?

Lets be patient ok?

Hi nice people in this i3 Vivocom forum. Happy morning.

Looking at the very low volume of trades done and price change, one question comes to my mind. Are we trying to * Squeeze water from a stone or getting blood from a stone ?"

Many people would have lost money.
Some will sell at a loss and never to come back and or move to other counters.
People with money will be scared to buy more.
People with money buy and then lose more money.
People with money will buy if and only when the price drops further.
People with money will buy if and only when they see an uptrend which is sustainable.
People with money will say why waste my time here with all the negative news flying
around. Better buy other counters.
People with money will not buy after reading why this counter do not give dividends as
they did not know why the company did not want to give dividends to conserve cash and
only undertake pp instead as more cost effective.
People with money will not buy if people still keep on harping already so many shares why keep on issuing more shares with pp. Perhaps they did not know there is something called share consolidation.
People with money will just wait and see. Nothing happens !

The above is just food for thought ok? If we continue to do the same thing over and over again, it will take a long long time and very difficult to see a Sustainable Uptrend.

How to make more money if people gets poorer?????

Vivocom price may be down now AND like all Champions, " Down but not Out" ! It has all the necessary key success factors and price now
Only 19.5 cts. Imagine when it goes up only 10 cts from now, how much can one make????? More than 50 plus per cent ! You will be laughing all the way to the Bank ! And if you do not control your "laughing" people might say you are cuckoo !
I do not mind though !

Be patient and do not be a patient OK? Traders in this forum will be looking out for or creating more patients and just hope you do not become one yourself.! Looking forward to the 3rd quarter results and I believe Vivocom with all its good people there, will not disappoint me. So far they "Ada Cakap.Ada Buat Dan KEPUTUSAN JUGA BAIK DAN Memuaskan ".

It will Rise again ! Just be ready and enjoy the exciting journey with all the thrills and excitement.!

Happy Sunday morning all. Feel so grateful to wake up and live another day.

For those of you who are looking for Vivocom to give dividends, may I suggest that you go back to past posts in thiis forum or look out for more information and you will have the answers why there is no dividends. There shall be no dividends in the short term and if you are looking for dividends please look for other stocks.

Thank you vhock2. Agree with your comments.

Hi Professor_Conman, long time no see. What happen to you ?

vivoinvestor, well said. Vivocom is definitely not for contra unless one is an expert and have deep pockets.

vivoinvestor, cheers. So pitiful these people looking for attention. So out of pity I try to help relief their tension and miserylah. They had tried so hard but the price of Vivocom refused to come down to 2 cts and another one say 15 sen.

GoodBoy, you too have a nice holiday...and cheers to you too.

Hi, FBMKLCI2015, first you told a lie. People keep quiet. Then you call people September fool and you LOL. People also keep quiet. Then you say people are monkeys and then say no announcement.... red alert. People also keep quiet. Then two minutes later say Vivo fever gone case . . . People again keep quiet .

Anything else bro/sis??? What new things you want to say??? Please keep on saying and see what happens. ?? I give you a Big Clap just in case you are looking for one. Clap Clap Clap.
Can you hear ?

Hi vvv1 "and why i come here? cause i am too free and it's fun to make fun with you guys here...
oopss...sorry i know it's bad like that...but but...it's really fun to see your frustration! wakakakaka... "

If you want a clap and no one has given you one yet, then allow me to give you a "BIG CLAP" out of my sympathy for you as you are just simply craving attention from people !

Clap clap clap to vvv1 ! Sorry not sure whether you can hear it or not. Just in case cannot hear, I say soli lor ! I have tried my best to make you happy !

Anything else new from you vvv1, to entertain us since you are too free?? I too have lots and lots of time to watch your antics ! ha ha .

I really hope all can work and prosper together. Lets call it a truce and we work together can?

Dear all, perhaps you have experience tug of war during your school days. Both sides will pull, and the fun is it will see saw until one team finally gives up. What we have now in this forum is something similar. One party is trying to press the price down again so that they can buy again cheap and later sell at a profit when the price trends up, and another party will not want to sell cheap and therefor there will be less sellers in the market and the poor fellows who succumb to the downward pressure (usually those people who contra or panic ) will sell.

These two parties will not achieve their objective because they are not working in unison !

One party wants to make money when they succeed to push the price down and in the process will impoverish those people who sold their shares in panic or weak investors and in the end they have less money in their pockets. After a few rounds of this actions as we saw in the last few trading days the volume had come down considerably. People become fearful and those brave one with little money do not dare to buy.

When it goes up a little, people will have learnt their lessons earlier and start selling thereby also affecting the party who hope to buy cheap and sell higher.

The other party the so called longer term investors would like to profit from rising prices due to the good fundamentals and quarterly results from the company. Alas they also see the above happening. When the price start to move the above scenario starts all over again. Shortlived uptrend.

SUMMARY.

1) Why one group of people will lose money so that the other party can make? In the long run they become poorer and disappointed.

2) The other party hope to make money from the few cycles of up and down and find that it is
increasingly more difficult as people become wise to their tactics.

3) The 2nd party will not want to invest more (though some will buy to average down) as they already know what will happen if they invest more. The first party will want to press down the price.

4) Lesser companies making less profits have its share price up and up whereas Vivocom have its prices in a see saw pattern. Why?

QUESTION .

1) How long do we want the stalemate to continue??

2) IF Vivocom is no good why do all parties want to waste time in this counter, day in day out in this forum ? If no good then go to other counters please but why still stay here as Vivocom pandai give bonuses but not dividends. ? Cut loss and then buy other dividend stocks?

3) Why don't all parties think again and reconsider their strategies.?
Most of us are small timers unlike those big shareholders and syndicates.
Shall we work together and make money by not pressing down prices and in the process some others become poorer ?

4) We buy at the prices which we feel is good and then we sell when the prices trend up.?
EVERYONE IS HAPPY AND MAKES MONEY WITH THE PRICES GOING UP AND SELL WHEN THEY HAVE ACHIEVED THEIR TARGET. ?

Making money in the stock market need not be so complicated if only all of us work together.
We do not need to make others lose their money in order for us to profit.!
If we AVERAGE UP most of us will laugh everyday going to the bank and deposit our money.
There will be lots of laughter and mood with our loved ones also more jovial right?
We can reward ourselves occasionally with better food, clothing and go for the occasional holiday and give more to our favorite charity or the needy and much much more. Right?

Can we give a rethink of our strategy and work together?

Guess the above is just a dream and will not happen if there is no trust!

However take a look at the history of India and how one man Mahatma Gandhi united
India with its diversified population and still manage to achieve Independence. Its short of a miracle right?

If he can why not us? We do not have millions of us in this forum . Just a handful I think after counting our fingers and toes ????

"We can if only we believe we can !"

"I dream of things which has not happened and ask why not?"

Just my 2 cts.

Hi Good morning. Nice to have you back. Finally I got a new equation for Professor to evaluate. Share price up = Professor away and Share price down = Professor back ! OK?

Professor you said, "Professor waiting for signal " What signal? Earlier you mentioned , "There is no more "curiosity",,,".

If there is no more Curiosity, why you are here in this forum? Trying to create panic so that you can again buy cheap from unsuspecting investors ?

Numerous projects

Darth, if the company give dividends, of course it's good. However they need money for working capital probably due to the numerous awarded to them . Once dividends given, working capital will be less and they might resort to more pp. We are probably back to square one with even more shares to go around. Just my 2 cts.

I have already said my Adios to Professor yesterday while he was still around in the forum. Even if he is not, at least I have said my goodbye in anticipation he might disappear anytime when the share goes up.

MyView, now I am very disappointed. I think my chance to buy at 2 cts or 15 cts looks bleak as recommended by those traders ! Maybe I will still wait lah.

Darth, I am most confusedleh.! First you said Vivocom no good as not giving dividends. Now can start buying Vivocom even without the dividends ?

Professor_Con man, the more you taunt, mock and challenge us, it only makes you more ridiculous and you lose your credibility. All those traders who behaved, talk and act like you had already disappeared because they were made to look like jokers (just to be polite) when all their predictions went haywire and too ashamed to face people like us !

However we believe they are still here under another name or identity and worse still use other people's name to confuse people. How despicable !

May I suggest you "tone" down a little. Perhaps this way you still can gain some new fans who like your style of investments.

Go look at our past records! We are here to stay and we had outlasted all your fellow traders before. I will still be Doitanyway come rain come shine. Likewise I believe CKNYAM79 will still be CK NYAM79 and Myview will still be Myview just to name a few, though I must confessed I cannot speak for them and past history seemed to suggest I my guess may not be wrong.

How long will you be here Professor_Conman?

Perhaps I must bid you Adios while you are still around in this forum. Who knows when Vivocom goes up you will disappear and no longer comment here? It had been "fun" with people like you around! You all make me feel young an energised for an old man ! Just like Viagra maybe, only read about it OK?

Cheerio n have a great Sunday .

Hi Professor_Conman, thank you in advance, if you and your trader friends intention is to bring down the price to a low of 2-15 cts target. Rest assured we shall be ready to buy more cheaper shares thanks to your effort. We still believe in Vivocom. Any retracement mentioned is a buying opportunity. You do not know how much funds we have available to invest and that is the added thrill. Vivocom to us is not a pariah share, so we have no fear to buy some more. Haha and you think we cannot sleep? Haha.
If we do not have enough , my former secondary had said to us before " tomorrow I am going to collect the school fees. If necessary, you can go beg, borrow or steal in order you have enough money for the school fees." !
If I do not have enough , perhaps I might do that ! Hahaha.

Do I sound worried? Do you know some of us had invested in Instacom few years back when it was a telco tower builder ??? Gone through good times n bad times?

Professor, will you and your traders disappear once Vivocom start it's run. ?

Disappear altogether and then come back with new names?

Bet you will ! Have you got back up names on standby? Please refrain from copying
Other people's names OK?

However we shall still be around . It's sometimes quite fun to have you traders around. Quite useful to us for bringing down share prices for us to buy more. You all are doing work for us and not getting a single sen from us ! Thank you bro or sister.

On the otherhand sometimes you all are a nuisance too just like we are a pests to your intentions.

Have a great weekend Professor and your Trader friends. Adios!

Well said

CKNYAM79 and B4b4, thank you and we'll said.

CKNYAM79, we have very " kind samaritans " here who keep giving advise here like you mentioned saying Vivocom no good etc etc day in day out n night in night out. Just very strange and if they have no vested interest in this "lousy" counter which by the way also do not give dividends then why are they wasting their time here? They must be very very free n kind indeed giving advise everyday.
Next I might ask them to recommend some good counters which give lots of dividends n share price going up. Oh I forgot they mentioned steel counters????

There is one word called Hopeless. There is also one word called Incorrigible. There is also one word called Useless.
Add them all up it becomes too horrible to describe.

MyView, ha ha. tq. Great song.

Hi Professor_Conman, my apologies to you for being simple minded and not writing something high tech with great formulas ok?

People whom you call holland sifu or Sin Ka Lan do not simply come out with analyst report or director and CEO bla bla bla and the old news, simply to bluff people. Yes some of this news had already being factored in.

However do not forget there are newbies out there. We just want to highlight some information which they may not be aware of and what is wrong with that. Of course past performances do not guarantee future performances.
At least there is a basis for them to consider. Also what is wrong with telling these people of the projects which had been awarded and some still on the negotiating table.

Let the management and employees in Vivocom to do their work okay? Many of them are working hard and you
are certainly doing a disservice to them by badmouthing this counter. Is this right ?
Let new investors decide ok?

If you have nothing good to say then do not say anything bad please !

CKNYAM79, Myview and all others as I have said before, we have better things to do. We do not want to cheat or con people to make some money. Cheating and Conning people in the long run is a Big NO NO. We believe in doing good and not doing bad ! We can only earn Merits or maybe some say PAHALA if we do good. Can you understand my dear Professor_Conman !

Even your name is rather odd ! Why you choose this name is beyond my comprehension and it is your right of course and I respect that. As the song title says " Let it be !"

Please do not continue to taunt and mock people okay.?
I have to continue reminding myself not to retaliate and say bad things and I must confess sometimes I FAIL because I am no ANGEL !

I would have lowered my standards and my dignity if do bad things and curse people. May God help me not to fall into the crevice and curse people.

Just my 2 cts ok?

Hi you TRADERS, you laugh at us, call us names, taunt/mock us and one fellow of yours even curse us and our families! Nothing strange and unusual to us anymore. We have seen enough of this antics of yours.

All sama sama. You all brag and think you all are so clever . Even try to teach us "CURIOSITY" ! Thank you very much.!

One thing very common with you all so called TRADERS, is that you will all disappear one fine day when the share price is on the uptrend and come back with another name.!

So very BORING !

Like they say " You can't teach old dogs new tricks !"

Anything else I missed out????

We do not simply ask people to buy okay? One of us had already said earlier. If you believe buy, if not bye bye.

Perhaps Traders cannot simply understand such simple phrases. After all one of you even called yourself
Professsor_ -------, so maybe we need to say something big, bombastic with great formulas X= abcxyz then only you all can understand. Very sorry we are not able to be like you. We do not simply encourage people to buy and
sell unlike you Traders. We hope everybody can make some money in their share investments.
Everyone profit together.

We do not want to create panic and bad news causing people to sell and then lose money. If we see value in the share we would like to buy and then hope to make money when the share is up. Better still if the share goes up and up and up. However we know this is impossible so there will naturally be profit taking. We will not be the ones
to spread unfounded news to create the selling and after selling at high price and hoping to buy low again.

We believe in letting market forces decide.
Perhaps this is where we are different.
There are people instead of letting market forces decide , will create the forces / news to bring the price down.

I will not accuse you of doing this. Let the readers decide okay. You will know if you all are part and parcel of these
people.

Let the readers decide whose posts make sense! ok?

Hi Good morning all.

If you are yourself do not have "curiosity" why do you bother to comment on what others write??? Cakap tak serupa bikin !

Sudah n not sudan

I am waiting for the 2 cts n below as recommended by a Trader. Less risky. Only problem
Trader did not say have to wait how long. Hopefully do not have to wait forever. Sudan kena cursed
Earlier ! Takut !

Empty vessels make the most noise.!
Empty vessels also brags the most !
Empty vessels think they are always right !
Empty vessels also think they know everything under the sky !
Empty vessels will always think they are full even if it is really empty and
Only good for storing air and nothing else because only with air will it make
The most noise.

By the way, I am also empty inside OK?

Hi short term traders, just in case you all are not aware, one of the riches man in the world is Warren Buffet and he is a long term investor and not a Trader like you all. If there is one person to emulate, it will be Warren Buffet . We know it is not easy and we are taking baby steps along this journey to be like him. Go Google and you can get more information .

By the way do you all know any TRADER in this world who is equal or better than this LONG TERM Investor Warren Buffet?

If yes please let us know okay? I am waiting for your answer.