yewyin33... why say sorry. stock price not within your power to control. Stock valuation u have explain. Let nature runs its own course.

Wah... argument till today ah. Ermm... if no confidence please sell. Nestle and pmetal all has undergone this process of price shrinking as well. Please sell.

Satan118... what lesson is there to teach? Price speculation and manipulation is in every counter. FA people who wish to go long with HY will not mind to stay long here.

My next q is 13.3. Please give me some.

Perhaps whether the above news is good or not. Let us take a look at opposite extreme. Imagine we have a news like this
Ambank and maybank reject HRC application for rm1.7billion loan.

So which one is better?

What is the problem witj this borrowing? For upgrade. For biznes expansion. Errmmm... if u think no good please sell tomorrow. Only 60 million free float.
Ambank, maybank thinks its a good deal. Maybe u guys are better than their analyst and accountant.

omg... guys this is HY forum.. How come attracted so many funny people liao?

Now i am no longer buying.

Warchest... we are buying and we still buying. Why worry so much?

relax bah... even rm30 also cannot sell. so rm14.5 no difference.

me continue buying...

If gone i wait at 13.5
Then 13
Then 12.5

Come come... turun lagi

Lai... dun cakap banyak. Give me my rm14 batch

Lai... first batch 14.5. Awaiting next batch 14.

So many traders getting ready to hoot

Haiyo... why complain lah u all.. that stupid media fellow has done us a service. Create an opening to buy cheap. If today HY is rm18 also u wont sell lah. Might as well be rm14 for me to have even better entry price before next qtr

If he talk about mogas 92 in jan contract - ada 20% but still much higher than 6.5 when HY can make money. Future contract price also high leh.
If mogas 95 increase leh
Jet kerosene also increase leh.

I wonder where he get the figure 20% on q42017?

Hengyuan boleh dan tetap boleh.

sien leh... always tell people u buy FA stock is buy on dip.
TA is sell on dip.
U gotta decide this is FA or TA stock first lah.

bz adding ah

aiyo.... please drop to rm16 lah...
Mau beli pun tak dapat.

i was hoping with nekosan and 3iii badmouthing it and fred and otb issue sell call and so many concerted effort would press the price down to rm13.5. in fact ask all my fren beratur 13.5. Sigh... no chance lah macam ini.

did anyone bother to check coke price future for CNY? It is crazy high!!!!!!!!!

Why mogas 92 and not mogas jet kerosene?

Idiotbuster... i know. Take away all the satirical part. Forget about the kyy part. He mmg anti kyy that we know. But the real deal is there.
Hy rm19 to rm15.9 (15minutes)
Rm15.9 to rm18 (5 minites - cover short position)
Rm18 to rm16.3 (fred tam and otb issue CL)

Felicia post HY horse behind cannon morning
Ta security fire second salvo said overdone 2pm
Today the star said HY rise too fast.

U see the trend now?

Please operator... please dun shoot hy up so fast... my gaji belum masuk.. if possible pls press down to rm12.
Tolong...
Tolong...

Fund managers are feeling the pinch of buying HY at higher and higher premium bcos even buta huruf auntie and uncle are fighting for HY ticket with them.
Yday and today (theedge and thestar) all give concerted negative impression to HY.
The aim is to shoo away all small retailers

Idiot buster... he is telling the truth about hengyuan fall.. it is done by a group of people. The media and blogs are all concerted effort. Doesnt mean fundamentally HY is shaken but the fact that a group of people concerted effort using around nearly 0.9% of HY share to try press down its price is real

Investee its mogas jet kerosene platts 95. U use platt 92

Why are you guys thinking of 60 cents?
Harlem already given the calculation for next qtr.
Even at RM1, after next qtr, the forward PE is just slightly shy of 5.
For a beast like huaan, you guys are just willing to give a PE of 5 when oven 4 and 5 is not in full production?
End of 2018, Rm1.2 to RM 1.3 is a very likely scenario

Nekosan.... The world you are seeing now is fossil based. The plastic, road tar, polymers and even make up you are seeing nowadays.... is a harness of fossil energy. We call it a simple term "jelmaan minyak". Without oil, we will still be stuck with steam power of coal.

So to put it on the same level of necessity product of food like nestle is not wrong at all.

myongcc5... I dont aim for 28.
I aim for 2 years of it achieving good result having 1.5B and moving up the FBMKLCI with a more establish PE of 20.
See you at RM70 myongcc.
This is a nestle quality stock.

most important thing is gasoline goes up in parallel to brent/crude oil price. Refer to investing.com graph. Then you will see it.

Refer to mogas jet kerosene singapore crack spread graph and future value.

It has been USD 13.4 on average.
HY manage to make money on USD 8.
U have to imagine what USD 13.4 will do.
A lof of people got confused.
Imagine cost for HY per barrel is USD4.

HY make money of USD 8-4 = USD 4 per barrel.
Now at USD 13.4, HY will make USD 13.4 - USD 4 = USD 9.4 per barrel
That is a massive 200% increment.

And i am using a wrong data by the way... the cost is more than USD4. But just to illustrate what is the potential of USD 13.4

Crack spread
Raw material - 2 barrel of brent/ crude
Output (adjustable content) - 3 gasoline,1 heating oil, 1 cooking oil + other chemical products

Crack spread = price of output - price of raw material

The main thing about it is that brent oil rise is supported by gasoline price rise as well. Hence the stability in the crack spread.
But if brent rise with gasoline price dropping... then it is bad for HY.

Fred Tam issue warning from RM 4 till now. Baru kena sekarang nia.
How much fred and all his followers got? How many percentage of HY?
0.1% or 0.01%?
I bet with you they all add up not even 0.001%.

From RM 8 all the way to RM 19.
Now RM19 fall to RM16.... ermmmm... ada rasa kah? U all TA guys please stay away from Hengyuan lah. We go long... very very long....

Dun believe Hengyuan can overtake nestle. Wait next 2 years ah...

What is wrong with people?
RM2 to RM4 - will fall will fall
RM4 to RM 9 - will fall will fall
RM9 to RM12 - will fall will fall
RM12 to RM19 - will fall will fall

You TA guys - please go and reflect the mirror lah.

Later when rebound to RM20 - will fall will fall
RM20 to RM25 - will fall will fall
RM25 to RM30 - will fall will fall
RM 30 fall to RM25 - see see i told u so i told u so.

FA guy - dumb dumb hold from RM4 to RM30 - huh? ada fall kah? no feel at all lah...

He is telling the truth...

Good piece of article. Pleaze use the same lense and valuation for MUIIND. It will make ekovest look like child play

wait a second... the announcement is just a proposal right? I have hibiscus and am fully support of it. But this announcement is the same as the previous ones right?

All looking for small profit.. somemore got people want to predict its price movement. Let me tell u that it will be rm1 by year end

Funds will come in. Eps for the last 2 QR is 5 cents. Expecting about the same for the next 2 qr means 10cents eps. Is 30cents at projected forward pe of 3 expensive? It is dirt cheap.

The reason for huaan to go north from now on is fund managers. Before this no fund manager can touch it as it is in paragrah 8.03 status. Now fund manager can free flow buy in after calculating their TP.
Wont fly tomorrow but i think within a month when funds calculated the TP they will rush in for the kill.

finally

those who want to sell please sell lah... Dun ask here ask there. Scare and cannot sleep, just sell

Please... run away first... Run now ya. Come back and support the price at 855 later when it break this resistance. Dun stay here please. Better still take your money and go elsewhere.