Posted by kcchongnz > Mar 27, 2013 10:22 AM | Report Abuse

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Somebody just Google and find the formula a bit different and declares everywhere about the above statement.

p.s 2 accounts r talking to each other, so cuteeeee... hahahaaaaha

b.share not the same as s.split :) btw, was juz post a comment like every1 else, but an ass bug so desperate to response. for official kfima announcement always go back to bursa web site

Posted by kcchongnz > Mar 25, 2013 03:20 PM | Report Abuse

I am speechless!!!!!

@lmf_hau, as v all knew banyak si-tipu + si-roti-canai oh sini :D :D :D

what to do, pity her never seen a 1:1 bonus before, hahahaha... don't know y so desperate? hahahaaa...

warning: her calculation is way way way off, 3.28??? hahahahaaaa... then all the institutes out there must be so stupid. buy base on these sort bs analyst, Holland is not too far away :D

1:1 bonus issue :)

"construction firm - securing contract is one story , financing the construction work another story, managing the construction work another story, in the end reporting profit from the secured contract is another story "

@tarrasque, thumb up! welcome to real world :)

must be a newbie dumping... so easy to spot, aisey... no challenge! :D

not entirely selling force (if any) but someone is offloading... :)

as mentioned above: http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2013/3/29/business/12901848&sec=business

u can't contra this one, at least not now :)

no rush, price not stable yet... few cents up/down biasa lah

would mkland sales figure beat the market estimation - that's the thing to track in coming qtrs

dijacor is too leveraging its assets to reduce their net gearing, they call it "rationalizing"

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/kenangaresearch/27063.jsp

good to these co with plenty of lands to spare... sigh

which old timer counter have superior c.governance? hahahaaa... L&G etc, these counters all went thru lots of tussles :)

there is always good time & bad time

sure? check this out: http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/highlights/232629-redtone-takes-capex-light-approach.html

fuyooo... soooo desperate to admit. go back to yr cheat thread, read what U WROTE FOR YOURSELF, no one accuse u of anything. keep yr 'if' exclusive to yrself, who cares? sigh

now try to play other to attack me?! what a scumbag u r!

check this out: http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-news/234408-puncak-niaga-enters-pact-with-indonesias-medcoenergi.html

not sure how long more to wait, but otb's coffee $ target of .615 is almost there already :)

anbz, " ... your nick name should be NZ"

hahhaahaa... banyak si-tipu + si-roti-canai di forum ni :)

buy low sell high, don't easily get influenced, not until new catalyst arise, juz follow low liquidity trade pattern

if roe can flip like that to fit occasion, what is the basis of the analysis? non-sense!

"...So using the end of year will make the ROE lower, a distortion."

warning: absolutely misleading!


Posted by kcchongnz > Mar 25, 2013 12:42 PM | Report Abuse

houseofordos

equity = Assets - Liabilities.

With assets overvalued, it means equity will be bigger. As ROE=NI/Equity,

Hence ROE will be smaller, hence not looked better.

Posted by kcchongnz > Mar 28, 2013 11:42 AM | Report Abuse

...bs...bss ..bs..

To calculate, the equity of the year is taken as the average of equity beginning and end of the year.

p.s: what load of BS

Posted by kcchongnz > Mar 27, 2013 10:22 AM | Report Abuse

Somebody just Google and find the formula a bit different and declares everywhere about the above statement....

Posted by kcchongnz > Mar 25, 2013 12:42 PM | Report Abuse

houseofordos

equity = Assets - Liabilities.

With assets overvalued, it means equity will be bigger. As ROE=NI/Equity,

Hence ROE will be smaller, hence not looked better.

Posted by kcchongnz > Mar 28, 2013 11:42 AM | Report Abuse

...bs...bss ..bs..

To calculate, the equity of the year is taken as the average of equity beginning and end of the year.

p.s: what load of BS

Posted by kcchongnz > Mar 27, 2013 10:22 AM | Report Abuse

Posted by iafx > Mar 27, 2013 09:27 AM | Report Abuse
make no mistake, shareholders equity is NOT equal to Assets - Liabilities!

Somebody just Google and find the formula a bit different and declares everywhere about the above statement. He doesn't understand what is preferred shares, and hence why the difference of the formula. For heaven sake don't make a fool of yourself everywhere.

http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/forum/600027117.jsp?fp=3

Posted by kcchongnz > Mar 27, 2013 11:13 AM | Report Abuse

Yes, I was speechless when I read the following statement.

Posted by iafx > Mar 25, 2013 03:10 PM | Report Abuse
understand first r u a common share holder, or owner of the company? should the answer is obvious, so is the inappropriate use of e=a-l above

Btw any person fluent in accounting would be speechless when someone who knows nuts criticize others continuously like that.

now become "the equity of the year is taken as the average of equity beginning and end of the year"... my goodness!



Posted by kcchongnz > Mar 27, 2013 11:10 AM | Report Abuse

[In accounting and finance, equity is the residual claim or interest of the most junior class of investors in assets, after all liabilities are paid. If liability exceeds assets, negative equity exists. In an accounting context, Shareholders' equity (or stockholders' equity, shareholders' funds, shareholders' capital or similar terms) represents the remaining interest in assets of a company, spread among individual shareholders of common or preferred stock.] Wikipedia

It doesn't mean everything Wikipedia says is correct but for this very simple accounting concept, of course Wiki won't go wrong.

It means clearly equity=assets-liabilities

When there is no preferred shareholders, as in most if not all the companies in Bursa, common shareholders equity (or just equity) are the only shareholder or stockholder equity.

http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/forum/900218979.jsp?fp=3

olh gonna tell u: my way or high way!! :D

osk should make it into guiness record, having a huge mountain behind it (rhbcap), money lending biz... it still sit at 1.47?! this is one good lesson - do not spoil yr name

on the other hand, no mistake no opportunity? :)

to hold a prop counter for long, pick those with proven DY history, try not rely fully on large pile of $/lands (so call 'strong bs', 'undervalued'), these value on paper cheer u, make bank happy, give prop buyer confident... too bad nothing come to yr pocket as real $

of cos, at the end of the day, u punya suka lah :)

neither, buy slow, small & hold steady :)

Harapan Rakyat: MAMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
take a break, bingo!
:D :D :D

MAMEEEEEEEEEEEE... senang di-goreng, sedap in-makan... ?!

said earlier in the thread, the timing is weird for this deal :D

anyway, let' c... Selangor pkr mb said by 22/4 only will dissolve

well, low liquidity counter often trade in this pattern. most u can do is patient only, buy only when it dips :)

use Sec1:94 to navigate to page 94

long cerita potong short, u meant mkland land assets r understate, right? well, not surprise, however, in regardless, its still juz a value stated on the paper (at best ppl feel "safe" to buy this counter only). mkland has to find efficient way to "translate" that value into real $$$. obviously, mkland has not done enough on this (if it does, it would have traded at rm1.80 range already :), so... sometime bad thing is good in longer term)

however, nothing stand still forever, let's c in coming 4 qtr reports how it does, particularly the ability to payout div - real hard cash, no cerita, no guessing :)

notice despite rocking index, vol is so-so only :)

wah... study hard, man! that's the right attitude bro

believe the bottomline for mkland now is making sales, improvement been seen thru the 5yrs p/l, but pace is slow vs other prop counters. here's a view by PublicInvest Research:

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=%2F2012%2F7%2F20%2Fbusiness%2F11697694

jp morgan top picks have boosted sentiment for blue chips. alam other biz so far not very good, may eat into the profit gained via new contract. alam has been traded with caution so far :)

Posted by kcchongnz > Mar 25, 2013 03:20 PM | Report Abuse

I am speechless!!!!!

hahahahahaaaaa... bro, quickly go and open a roti-canai shop!! since day 1 already warned that yr statement is FLAWED

google? hhahaa..., if want to embarrass u, could have put this info in yr "specially created for argument" thread

there r many similar flaws in yr many "undisputable posts", no worry, should these posts r "too much", will knock on yr head to wake u up

hhahahaaa...

should redtone DY goes back to year 200x level, v shall c this counter move up as expected. telecom counter is often more resilient during uncertainty, but the pre-requisition is the co must be making $$$ and not lost (like XOX currently)

make no mistake, shareholders equity is NOT equal to Assets - Liabilities! :)

believe gov will stretch ge13 to the max. from index perspective, klse is not consider high but bcos of ge13 uncertainty, somehow it looks fragile

alam recent contracts award, one after another in short period of time, looks very "drama" also... :)

approaching .615 coffee money :D

garang hoi... :D :D

mkland must show ability to translate paper value to real $$$, otherwise sitting on strong bs is still BS, its current market price accurately reflect this point

maybe can consider buy small and slow over time

btw, try download latest annual report, goto page 94 for the list of lands available for development, some valuation was rather back dated

Pakatan state assemblies will dissolve along with Parliament

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2013/3/26/nation/20130326134525&sec=nation

hahahaaa... roller coaster

"If everybody is having the same thinking, that means nobody is using the brain!"

bravo! well said setia2u

well, no need to go far, the DY history already tell a lot :)

this one make L&G looks expensive, worth take a closer look

no need rush, without new catalyst, can break 1.8 as selling pressure is on with other opportunities arise