BJCorp debt is not as high as shown in balance sheet.

1. BJToto carries a net debt of over 700 million that's reflected into BJCorp's balance sheet.

2. BJLand also carries a net debt of over 2 billion, of which is BJToto's (BJLand's net debt would have been 1.6-1.7 billion if BJToto's excluded. If Kyoto Four Season is sold with cash transferred, and BJLand is really receiving 900 million (I have yet to see an announcement on BURSA,) BJLand's net debt is ONLY 700-800 million.

3. BJCorp's net debt is around 4.2 billion, but that includes BJToto and BJLand's. If they were excluded, BJCorp's net debt is around 1.8-1.9 billion. Should the proceed from Kyoto Four Season channeled back, BJCorp's net debt should be around 1 billion.

Question is: How much BJCorp and BJLand have received from the disposal.

While you guys are writing as if BJLand is to/or have received 900+ million from the disposal, have you seen BJLand making such announcement? Have you seen what BJLand is proposing on the new fund? Aren't you guys worry? Since March 03, I have yet to received any BURSA announcement or a reply from BJLand's investor relation...

hopefully, BURSA and SC have failed BJLand minorities not insisting on share swap be extended to minorities in the last Penta deal... Sorry for misunderstanding your intention.

can only hope for a share swap into BJCorp share soon at 0.38/0.30 exchange plus a little of cash if VT is generous enough, sigh!

ooh...

Alas, excluding BJCorp and VT's holding, there's less than 750 million shares of BJLand in the market. Not sure if Penta sold its stake, otherwise, being a VT close ally, Penta should still hold on to some BJLand shares. If VT genuinely care for his minority shareholders, a 0.10 per share dividend will offer huge support to share price yet will see minorities taking ONLY LESS THAN RM 75 million with the rest back to BJCorp and VT. So, whether there's some organization trying to achieve preset target, VT negligence about his minorities interests is the ONLY reason share price failed to be stable.

wantanmi, I have waited more than 3 years. I'm merely expressing my view based on what you have said. If BJLand minorities have been informed on the Kyoto Four Seasons, I would have a little bit faith in VT. It would be even better if VT announced a special dividend in the proposed disposal as he had mentioned in the AGM. Unfortunately, he didn't. It's good to know the success disposal of Vietnam hotel, but it's not comforting knowing the money is spent to buy CHEAP Iceland hotel with 0 dividend declared when a dividend has been promised earlier. It is nice to have a press conference telling the media his plan, but it will cast only more doubt if they're not carried out.

VT can be rich from disposing his club ownership and Kyoto Four Seasons, but minorities have so far received NONE.

I read quarterly and annual reports, attending AGM and raise questions if needed. There's no doubt BJCorp and BJLand's balance sheets have improved greatly (even better if Iceland hotels were not purchased.) Jeju, China Great Wall, and Sungai Besi win will only further strengthen their book. Unfortunately, minorities can only share the success through share price gain and dividends. And, we minorities are not getting any thus far.

Wantanmi, you VT? I attended AGM for the past 3 years, I have to say, so far, disappointing! Promises made only to be broken, asset disposal without any sign minorities can have a dividend, big picture provided at best confusing...

Err... VT mentioned delisitng idea during his press conference Dec '18, 15 months ago... Now bjland minorities not even informed of the kyoto four seasons proposed disposal details

closing is due to share buy back, I think.... no fund manager interested in BJCorp already?

I thought this needs shareholders approval first?

https://www.bursamalaysia.com/market_information/announcements/company_announcement/announcement_details?ann_id=3032668

(Unless otherwise stated, all abbreviations and definitions used herein shall have the same meanings as those used in BCorp’s announcement dated 28 February 2020)

We refer to the announcement dated 28 February 2020 in relation to the Proposals.

On behalf of the Board, Maybank IB wishes to announce that the Disposal was completed today following the settlement of the Total Consideration by the Purchaser in cash and BKD has on even date entered into the Lease Agreement with the Trustee and the Purchaser.

This Announcement is dated 10 March 2020.

And BJLand minorities are not informed?!?


https://www.bursamalaysia.com/market_information/announcements/company_announcement/announcement_details?ann_id=3032668

(Unless otherwise stated, all abbreviations and definitions used herein shall have the same meanings as those used in BCorp’s announcement dated 28 February 2020)

We refer to the announcement dated 28 February 2020 in relation to the Proposals.

On behalf of the Board, Maybank IB wishes to announce that the Disposal was completed today following the settlement of the Total Consideration by the Purchaser in cash and BKD has on even date entered into the Lease Agreement with the Trustee and the Purchaser.

This Announcement is dated 10 March 2020.

Berjaya. Com. My-Media

Mon, Mar 9 at 11:49 AM

Dear Lydia,

With reference to my email dated Mar 03, may I know why is it taking such a long time for the reply? Thanks.


Best regards,

A concerned minority shareholder

Down limited? You must be joking, it's more than 6% drop when bjcorp sees 0.22 just now... That's despite an over 1.8 billion asset disposal

Wahaha... VT said dividend upon selling kyoto four seasons, but no dividend proposed in the proposed disposal of kyoto four seasons

If there's a dividend and VT is buying because of this, VT is trading on material non public information, which is subject to fine, including potential jail term...

stockraider, you must be joking!

wantanmi, BJCorp and BJLand balance sheet has actually begun to show improvement 2 years ago after several asset disposals. Yet, did you observe any dividend sent to your pocket? You know why I am so pissed off? BJLand has the money to buy Iceland properties claiming "cheap" but didn't even offer a cent of dividend, knowing that a cent of dividend cost BJLand RM 50 million with RM 40+ million eventually flows into BJCorp and VT's pocket...

wantanmi, THATS NOT WHAT VT SAID DURING AGM! Did you attend AGM?

Read the proposed disposal, NO DIVIDEND is MENTIONED!

https://www.bursamalaysia.com/market_information/announcements/company_announcement/announcement_details?ann_id=3028849

“I am happy to dispose this hotel, which is only about 3½ years old, for a huge gain,” said Tan, who is executive chairman of BCorp.

Well, didn't hear him saying "now I can share this wealth with my minorities through generous dividends"

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/berjaya-corp-sells-four-seasons-hotel-kyoto-rm187b-cash-realise-rm600m-gain

We should seek VT to honor his words, he promised a dividend upon Kyoto Four Season disposal.

That's not what VT promised during AGM, he said dividend if kyoto four seasons sold, and many heard him saying, I'm not the only one!

err... I'm no insider, got no idea how Kyoto Four Seasons is treated in BJLand's balance sheet. It would be a misconduct if BJLand doesn't disclose it...

media@berjaya.com.my

Dear Lydia,

With reference to the Kyoto Four Seasons disposal, may I know
(1) if the board has considered letting Four Seasons deal directly with the new owner instead of through an entity owned by BJCorp/BJLand? Is the arrangement in the proposal offer a better returns, current and future? If yes, what's the additional total return looks like?

(2) if BJLand's shareholders be required to attend a BJLand EGM for the said disposal like in the case for BJCorp?

(3) if the management of BJLand too busy or finding BJLand minorities ignore-able to simply refer BJLand minorities to BJCorp's announcement? There's a section in the BJCorp's proposal that evaluate the effect of disposal on BJCorp's net asset, gearing and earning. There isn't any such disclosure on BJLand's. Are minorities of BJLand not entitled to know the disposal impact on BJLand's net asset, gearing and earning?


During 2018's AGM, I have requested Tan Sri Vincent Tan to consider a dividend given a recovered balance sheet of both BJCorp and BJLand, and I was told there'll be one for FY 2019. Unfortunately, there's any for FY 2019 despite asset disposal in Vietnam. When the issue of dividend was raised again during 2019's AGM, Tan Sri Vincent Tan promised me that a dividend shall be offered to minorities upon the disposal of Kyoto Four Seasons. However, reading through proposal, it's a huge disappointment realizing that there isn't any allocation for dividend. May I know if Tan Sri Vincent Tan is aware of this? If a decision has yet to be made, may I plead to both the board of directors of BJCorp and BJLand as well as majority shareholder, Tan Sri Vincent Tan, to honor Tan Sri's words during both AGMs?


Best regards,

a minority shareholder of both BJCorp and BJLand

media@berjaya.com.my

Dear Lydia,

With reference to the Kyoto Four Seasons disposal, may I know
(1) if the board has considered letting Four Seasons deal directly with the new owner instead of through an entity owned by BJCorp/BJLand? Is the arrangement in the proposal offer a better returns, current and future? If yes, what's the additional total return looks like?

(2) if BJLand's shareholders be required to attend a BJLand EGM for the said disposal like in the case for BJCorp?

(3) if the management of BJLand too busy or finding BJLand minorities ignore-able to simply refer BJLand minorities to BJCorp's announcement? There's a section in the BJCorp's proposal that evaluate the effect of disposal on BJCorp's net asset, gearing and earning. There isn't any such disclosure on BJLand's. Are minorities of BJLand not entitled to know the disposal impact on BJLand's net asset, gearing and earning?


During 2018's AGM, I have requested Tan Sri Vincent Tan to consider a dividend given a recovered balance sheet of both BJCorp and BJLand, and I was told there'll be one for FY 2019. Unfortunately, there's any for FY 2019 despite asset disposal in Vietnam. When the issue of dividend was raised again during 2019's AGM, Tan Sri Vincent Tan promised me that a dividend shall be offered to minorities upon the disposal of Kyoto Four Seasons. However, reading through proposal, it's a huge disappointment realizing that there isn't any allocation for dividend. May I know if Tan Sri Vincent Tan is aware of this? If a decision has yet to be made, may I plead to both the board of directors of BJCorp and BJLand as well as majority shareholder, Tan Sri Vincent Tan, to honor Tan Sri's words during both AGMs?


Best regards,

a minority shareholder of both BJCorp and BJLand

haha... see no dividend, best no investment. Who cares who's the PM if no dividend declared?

if BJCorp and BJLand rise to above 0.60, guess VT is genuine to share the money from the asset disposal, otherwise, sigh!

if BJCorp and BJLand rise to above 0.60, guess VT is genuine to share the money from the asset disposal, otherwise, sigh!

Announce a dividend, even if its just a cent per share to show respect and appreciation to us minorities who decide to hold!

VT mentioned about dividend upon selling kyoto four seasons, its useless to us minorities if promises not delivered accordingly. I haven't received a single cent of dividend despite VT made the promises in the last 2 AGM!

minorities probably should write in to remind VT what he said during AGM, probably CC a copy to SC/BURSA too if the final announcement doesn't come with special dividend...

minorities probably should write in to remind VT what he said during AGM, probably CC a copy to SC/BURSA too if the final announcement doesn't come with special dividend...

very little is told, we have yet to see more details, sigh!

The Residences part, I think more than 50% sold, it was mentioned once...

yeah, been longing for dividend for years already, at least 0.01 per share annually to show appreciation to minorities...

how come BJLand makes 200 millions while BJCorp makes 600 millions?!?

To my understanding, Aberdeen is selling because investors are pulling funds out of Aberdeen, causing them to sell for their redemption. Puzzling as to why EPF is selling though, my best guess would be a need to declare 'profit' by selling what's profitable yet not very promising, in this case, Oriental.

press conference more than a year ago!

Its not an exciting quarter, quite expected... To me, details worth notice would be:

1. China Great Mall arbitration - expected outcome in the second quarter 2020.
2. Jeju Court case - delay until further notice ... err... a compromise expected soon?

Talk cock VT mentioned about selling Kyoto Four Season during 2 AGMs and one press conference, but only talk so far...

What good profit from business operation or asset disposals is to us minorities if they were not shared? So the majority shareholder can propose 'unfair but reasonable' offer price to take co private with SC and BURSA keeping quiet? Or so the family of the major shareholders can collect fat pay checks claiming they have served the co well?

eddysurge, again, there's every reason for those benefitted from current system wanting to make sure the same benefits stay. Regulators should step in make sure firms making changes to encourage better representation and better investment environment. To me, BURSA and SC fail terribly in their roles, with minority interests not protected being the WORST!

Eddysurge Oceansky, remembered ignissimis. A couple years ago, when bjcorp bought bjland from VT with expensive price, I tried to objection. But he praise the most regard the deal before market price gradually come at this stage. That time, bjcorp actually seem like extended hand helping bjland or VT.


Eddysurge, with VT the majority shareholder of BJCorp, its no surprise BJCorp extending a helping to VT. What is surprising is the inaction of BURSA and SC. Its a real shame SC and BURSA didn't require the offer MUST be extended to other minorities.

OceanSky, I thought the amount BJLand filed for compensation is much higher than USD 350 million. BJLand is hoping a final compensation closer to USD 350 million, higher than previously proposed to them. So, I would assume USD 200 - USD 250 million will most likely not accepted by BJLand.

Leong1982, BJLand owns approximately 40% of BJToto which has a market cap of 3.566 billion. BJLand's BJToto ownership is worth 1.426 billion. With 5 billion shares outstanding, each BJLand's BJToto is worth RM 0.28, not RM 0.24...

VT buying, faster follow? He buys, still collect management fees and perks; we buy, got nothing...

we need official announcement with proposed dividend if jeju case is real and an agreement reached, otherwise, share price will only keep yo-yoing...

Jeffrey Ting, thanks!

http://www.jejusori.net/news/articleView.html?idxno=311516' target='_blank'>http://www.jejusori.net/news/articleView.html?idxno=311516

It is drawing attention that Berjaya Jeju Resort Co., Ltd. filed a claim of KRW 320 billion against Jeju Free International City Development Center (JDC) in five years.

The 21st Civil Affairs Department of the Seoul Central District Court postponed the deadline for Berjaya's claim for damages scheduled for six days and began preparing for a reconciliation procedure.

Prior to the date of the sentence, the court announced that both sides were willing to make adjustments.

It was reported that a full delay was postponed as the law firm Square, which acted for the defense of JDC, and the Pacific Ocean law firm on Berjaya's side formed a consensus on further business negotiations.

The Tribunal plans to close the case through a forced reconciliation procedure based on the agreement between the two sides. The precondition is that adjustments should be made in a way that both sides can accept.

If either party disagrees with the forced reconciliation decision, they will have to go to court again. Compulsory mediation will be effective if the decision is not filed within two weeks of service.

Berjaya argued that the JDC failed to provide information on landowners' lawsuits in the process of signing a land sales contract on March 30, 2009, resulting in procedural defects.

In 2007, 22 years before land ownership, 22 of the landlords who had been granted land filed a lawsuit against the Jeju Provincial Land Acceptance Committee and JDC to cancel a land acceptance settlement.


JDC reconciled with 18 landowners during the trial, but the remaining four continued to file a lawsuit. At the first and second trials held in December 2009 and January 2011, the court raised the hands of the landlords.

In the meantime, Jeju Island also gave notice of approval for designation of tourism complex and construction plan. On the other hand, in March 2015, the Supreme Court decided that the land acceptance decision was invalid.

After not only accepting the land but also the licensing process, Berjaya demanded an astronomic claim for damages of $ 350 billion against JDC on November 6, 2015.

It is reported that the company has included in the compensation for damages not only the expenses incurred during the project, but also the costs of legal advice and the on-site visit.

Although he claimed to have lost income, which is the future income that resulted from the disruption of the business, the loss of the future was left out of the claim in the process of submitting compensation claims based on appraisal.

It is known that the amount of the applied entity is less than 320 billion won. Berjaya has been calculating damages based on an appraisal that was submitted to the court in February 2019.

Separately, Berjaya submitted a letter of intent to arbitrate the Investor State Dispute Settlement (ISDS), an international investment dispute, on July 19 of that year. The claim amounted to about 4.44 trillion won.

Yerae Recreational Residential Complex is a large-scale tourism development complex where Berjaya Jeju Resort invests 2.5 trillion won from 2008 to 2017 on 74,1193㎡ of area in Yerae-dong, Seogwipo-si.

From March 2013, the construction was suspended in March 2015. The project was suspended in July 2015 after constructing 149 households of Gotjawal Village with a total area of ​​39,9448㎡ on the project site.




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squeezing out speculators, still got speculators at 0.18? Shocking...

err... more like no fund manager cares about VT counters already, announcing over 3 billion project only got 1.8 million shares traded so far.