Ny036, could be but we never know what they gonna do next. Look at Ifcams...
One pattern I notice from the shark is there is a sudden buying on a price...example buying contiunuously at 0.175...keep on buying...then u join the party...it will then go to 0.18...but once it reach there...a sudden huge lump sell at 0.175 again..then, u will see ppl start buying again continuously at 0.175.

Actually I bought some at 0.18...but then, when I see some sort like this kind of thing happen at 0.18, I quickly sold at 0.18...

But I could be wrong

Can I add in one advice? I learn that the most important skill in trading/investment is cut loss or trailing cut loss. We need to set a firm cut loss/trailing cut loss price. This is to limit our loss.

Ex: I sold FBMKLCI-HW at 0.84 because that is my cut loss price. it rebounded to 0.90 before setting at 0.835 as of now

guys...My opinion is still the same. WE can all speculate that the shark do this and the shark do that...
But at 1600+/-, there is no direction...people just punt/bet...KLSe move 1 point, ppl thought its up or down.

Right now Call and Put warrant in red..why? easy...cos no direction and ppl just sell and wait for clearer picture. As I mentioned much earlier, once above or below 1620-1580 range, then we will see more movement in either warrants. And that's when I will make my move..

Warrant calculation is (Index - Exercise Price)/Ratio * Buying quantities

NY036, I don't think the outlook is as rosy as you painted out. Opinion differs

RM at 17 years low, oil at low level since the last recession, commodity prices drop, china growth slowed significantly. Only US and Europe is positive. That's we are seeing this kind of check and balance going on.

Nonetheless, lets hope our trade/investment/gambling goes well.

C12 is the only call warrant that is in the money. And its at a high premium.

I mean 1500 not immediately. That wont happen of course. I am looking at the macro economy and suggest it will hit 1500 anytime this year.

jing kun:
As long as it hovers around 1600+/- 20, I wont go into warrants.. but if it goes beyond that, then I will go into call or put.

NY036:
Ppl who are collecting in this forum are small fish. They cant even move a price level. If you really want to speculate, its totally at the mercy of the big fish, sometimes u manage to swim with them, sometimes you dont

no worries bro, I also kena 5 figure loss and also profit for index warrant. At 1600, very unpredictable...until a trend is clear, then we go bullish again ya...
In fact, for me, now is not the time to go into blue chips either.
I am really expecting KLSE to hit 1500 again. So I am monitoring closely at 1600..aiming to go into put warrant again

lee jing kun, wat price u bought? bleed 3 figure, 4 figure or 5 figure?

by the way, wat distribution u guys talking about? is it even real or some silly people come out with this thoughts from this forum

Since almost everyone here is a punter and hit n run guys, masuk 0.18, and get out at 0.195. Go !! Now !!

Guys. ..the reason it drop cos of umno general meeting . .. also hitting 1600 .. oil n RM is the worst performing currency. So ppl think bear is still around... n our technical rebound is consider weak..both put n call warrant drop shows uncertainty around market . ..seriously . .1600 is very dangerous for warrant players.... wait till trend is clearer . ...I'm still more to put warrant

wow...u guys really main tembak...how much u guys put in?

last time I show hand put warrant...now KLCI really trendless...cut loss for my put warrant...

Nicely done guys...happy earnings
I go into put warrant now...

bye bye preego, lari with musang king or thai durian?

All the best folks...I think KLSE going to have a hard time breaking 1600 due to oil and RM

now can go either way...bear or bull...giving me sleepless nights...
China import and export data out, drop a lot more than analyst expected...now they banking china will do a quantitative easing..liquidate the bank to pump up the market..if this happen, I think markets will rebound...if not, susah...coupled with feds meeting next week...haiz...

0.20... preego88, ready musang king?
1600 definitely the key resistance to overcome. already several days of battle at 1600, as long as still below 1600, the bear rules...careful my friends

preego88...how much u pump in? u sure fund manager still sleeping ah?
buttock already on fire still sleeping ah?
0.21 now

is it? key point is 1600 my friends....better lock profit and monitor

But we still facing headwinds in China export and import data...not to mention KLSE strong resistance at 1600-1630.
Lets see if can break and close above 1600.... very fierce battle ground at 1600 for the past few days

Yes Riche, thanks for the info.
Where can we view LIVE FKLI chart?

Thank you ! Is there a live chart?

Nope...he just put a "T" behind....haha..not sure why
By the way, where can I view KLCI futures?

Same question, where can I see the KLCI futures?

Thanks for sharing, by the way, where can we view the KLCI futures?
Put warrant today is terrible, KLCI rebounded by 4 points only and the put warrant is down by 10%-20% before parring losses...doesn't make sense..

Kakashit...

Johnny, I am no genius but it does not take rocket science to figure out that last week rebound to 1600 after touching 1506 is just a technical rebound. No fundamental change to KLSE/Malaysia...so, for me, I will wait it to crash, then buy in blue chips...BUT, I might be wrong too, which I think 99% confident that KLSE is going to court 1500 level again

Reserves falling, RM falling, Oil price falling, China slowing....Only US can bring positive news.

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/klci-pressured-macroeconomic-concerns-downside-may-persist-short-term

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/ringgit-gets-no-reprieve-it-slides-oil-slowing-china

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/bank-negara-foreign-reserves-down-third-straight-month-us947b-0

Careful guys...Reserves falling, RM falling, Oil price falling, China slowing....Only US can bring positive news.

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/klci-pressured-macroeconomic-concerns-downside-may-persist-short-term

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/ringgit-gets-no-reprieve-it-slides-oil-slowing-china

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/bank-negara-foreign-reserves-down-third-straight-month-us947b-0

valens Chong, what is your portfolio?

Careful guys...Reserves falling, RM falling, Oil price falling, China slowing....Only US can bring positive news.

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/klci-pressured-macroeconomic-concerns-downside-may-persist-short-term

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/ringgit-gets-no-reprieve-it-slides-oil-slowing-china

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/bank-negara-foreign-reserves-down-third-straight-month-us947b-0

Careful guys...Reserves falling, RM falling, Oil price falling, China slowing....Only US can bring positive news.

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/klci-pressured-macroeconomic-concerns-downside-may-persist-short-term

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/ringgit-gets-no-reprieve-it-slides-oil-slowing-china

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/bank-negara-foreign-reserves-down-third-straight-month-us947b-0

Careful guys...Reserves falling, RM falling, Oil price falling, China slowing....Only US can bring positive news.

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/klci-pressured-macroeconomic-concerns-downside-may-persist-short-term

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/ringgit-gets-no-reprieve-it-slides-oil-slowing-china

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/bank-negara-foreign-reserves-down-third-straight-month-us947b-0

Careful guys...Reserves falling, RM falling, Oil price falling, China slowing....Only US can bring positive news.

Our institutional can support? They didn't kill you consider nice liau lo. China government try to support also cant...

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/klci-pressured-macroeconomic-concerns-downside-may-persist-short-term

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/ringgit-gets-no-reprieve-it-slides-oil-slowing-china

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/bank-negara-foreign-reserves-down-third-straight-month-us947b-0

Careful guys...Reserves falling, RM falling, Oil price falling, China slowing....Only US can bring positive news.

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/klci-pressured-macroeconomic-concerns-downside-may-persist-short-term

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/ringgit-gets-no-reprieve-it-slides-oil-slowing-china

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/bank-negara-foreign-reserves-down-third-straight-month-us947b-0

Short KLSE? Buy put warrant? Fast money? Betting? Any reason why you think KLSE will drop?

MPI really nice...still haven't go in yet but on my radar.

Another bad quarterly result. BAd loan?

Oct used to be correction month for stocks...so does May (Sell off and go away in May), but I think might come as early as Sept... :)
Strong rebound by the way, but the fundamental situation of the country is still not fixed...good news is oil rebound a bit d.

Haha..where got if I think...there is a calculation one...Actually, I am thinking it will hit RM9. I am waiting to collect this stock but for me, now is not the time yet

Discounted cash flow? So base on DCF, what is the intrinsic value for MPI? RM6?

vaylens chong, nice fake photo ya...

Never imagine we will see it at 1.53. Some of my friends bought at 2.8 and average down when it hit RM2.0, Now its 1.53. Amazing..
And the oil battle is getting worst. Iran is pumping without profit to gain back market share.

Actually how to calculate put warrant? How does the exercise price work for Put warrant?

Haha iphone4, no rules. Each individual behave differently and think differently. That is why we always have buyer and seller no matter how ridiculous the price seems. This makes stock market so interesting.
And finally, its the profit that matters. One can talk a lot but if there is no profit to back him up, he is only a blogger.
Wish all of us well ya...get our money back thru stock ! Otherwise government makan all

Rebound 30 points...so volatile

good stock in bad times will also become weak...that's the usual case....waiting, waiting

iphone4, yes, you are right. Cut loss does not mean you give up on the company. Nope. It means you take out the risk, and buy in again when its low. Example I bought MPI at RM3, when it hits RM6.5 and starts to drop, I cut loss (or take profit in this manner). Then buy in again when its low, which I bought in at RM5, make sell off again at RM7.
so Cut loss and Take profit is very important...but don't mistaken it for day trade or trading. Nope...we are still investing in the company but if there is unfavourable event such as the current situation, we can cut loss (or take profit) and go away...and come back again once things are more stable / reasonable.
For CIMB, if the support is broken, usually it signals cut loss..or in your case, you average down...which I had set a very very stern rule to myself. Do Not average down....that's for me :)

bsngpg, great to know we both learn valuable lesson. Although cut loss late inflict heavy losses, but manage to gain good profit thru put warrant. Take profit today as well.
Strong earnings from MPI !! I really love this stock, lets hope it drop below 6 then can go in again

Thanks for sharing Vin...nonetheless, I still believe cut loss is applicable for any stock including blue chip. I am badly hit by this 2015 crisis too, but I cut loss and go into put warrant. Everything is perfect right now.
All the best to you ya

Not sure if major correction is coming but I think it will send the stocks worldwide to its right value. All highly valued right now.

Have to be very careful of that because Cut Loss is one of the key discipline in stock market. I admit I not willing to use it because usually people wont want to admit they are wrong to invest in that stock.
I bite the bullet and cut loss HH group, wiping out my 3 years of profit and thrown me into net loss. But manage to recover to slight profit again by buying KLSE Put warrant...give me a low 5 figure within 3 days.
If I didn't cut loss, I wont have the bullet to trade put warrant, and I will still be holding the loss instead of small profit right now. And Yes, I intend to buy back HH group after the next rout next week. I believe next week is going to be bloody....Very surprisingly KLSE held up today but I strongly believe next week is a rout. Finger cross :)
By the way, where you from?

Haha...they increase stake? Good news too...if really can hold, then should be good...but like I say, most people think they are long term investor to buy and keep for years, but often bail out after a few months. Many `~

Buy low can, but prepare to hold for years, most people will bail out after a few months.