Dear CharlesT, i fear you under the impression that I am doing all these so that I can push the price up and sell quick. Heaven no. Do note that it is not my intention to do so. If i want, i could sell it now but that is not the point. I sincerely believe it would go up somewhere 0.30-0.75 on a later date. Do let me know what else is bothering you. (thumb up)

Oh most definitely I will do that if there is a downturn unexpectedly. Don't get me wrong, I am just doing the cross-facts, maths and probability here. Much better than my other two brokers that have cost me my careplus and my topglove.

Dear CharlesT, I have already round it down much further after that comment :)

Oh dear me, don't get me wrong. My prediction chart is just what i believe it to be. I did my own probability math and that is what I get.

Your answer will definitely come up with something else if you believe that the company going to earn less than $70mil net profit per year. For example, if you believe the company share is going to be 0.13 only (for example), that would mean to say that the company is only earning $34,272,000 net profit per year.

It looks like an empty pot plant but there lies a seed inside the pot. Needs to be watered everyday for it grow, bloom and bear fruit.

I agree with you GGecko when it comes to him.

I know KYY has done quite a lot of aggressive trades in the past and the tricks that he has pulled. This i agree.

My question to CharlesT is where is the proof of the many conman in AT? It was KYY that pulled the shares down and it was his words that made many nervously sell after him, all out of fear and doubt. Pen is mightier than a sword.

Be your own broker and listen to your gut feelings. if your gut feeling says it may drop, then listen to it.

Other people gut feelings say otherwise but ignore them. My guts and math say it shouldn't go down to 0.15 because frankly it will be free fall to 0.07 again. However it does, i will just buy more to average down. Tell you honestly, i will be happy.

Good for me and good for everyone who wish to average down further.

joyvest I wish i could but I am not using any broker at the moment. Two of those brokers do not think alike at all.

Remember topglove being Rm15 at one time? One of them say sell because it was too high, the other say buy because it was still low. I sold because i frankly believed it myself that it was high. The shares went up. Not the fault of my broker but me cause i allowed myself to be convinced and not do enough research.

So I listened more to my other broker after that. I went in again and bought at Rm17. The price shot up to rm20, he said to sell. I told him there is still room to grow because news on paper and internet stating glove was in demand still. He convinced me to sell. So i sold. Topglove went up even further and split stock 1-3.

I shaked my head and ponder why these 2 brokers of 30-40 years experience can give me such advise. You know what they say to me? At least you made "some profit".

After that i went to buy stocks without the advise of my brokers. Bought dpharma at 2.28 (average up to 3.30), mrdiy at rm1.60 (sold at 2.20 - should have kept longer), QL Resources at 5.26 and now AT.

I did not regret not using brokers anymore after that. At the end of those day, the brokers were acting as my angel and devil conscious which was infuriating and liability.

CharesT maybe you have encountered a terrible experience with AT due to KYY unexpected dump of the shares. Not many knows about his intention to dump. Infact, we don't even know if he has a whatsapp group. It may just be a ruse to throw us off our game. He alone who holds MYR$40m worth of shares with the company can hurt the stock market if he choose to dump.

So please do not think that most investors are the same. Many are holding their shares very tightly because many understands the price will eventually go to at least 0.30. As to how i get to 0.30. Would you like me to show you the math working sheet?

Hi CharlesT, may i know what makes you say there are a lot of conman in AT? I am all ears.

VenFx, Perhaps you are right that the price may go below 0.15. However, do keep in mind that the price will not be there forever. It will go up to 0.30 eventually. Do determine your net profit of the company, NOSH of 4m shares and PE15 (lowest). You will get the result the same as mine

Correction, these are the investors that brokers will only play safe with. They definitely do not want you to bite them back

Do take note that most brokers would like to invest your money in the safest way possible. Not many has the intention to help you to take a big risk for a high return unless you insist on it (high risk, high return). So far I have never encounter a broker who dares the investor to jump into penny stock. Never once.

I asked 2 of my brokers about careplus many months ago, they said don't go in. You know the story from there on.

None of them do not want to risk their name and reputation in town or among friends. This is not their fault for being like this. If I were them, I would do exactly like them. Especially with investors who has no control over their emotions and rather cut loss fast. These are investors with no patient. These are the investors that brokers do not like to deal with and tries to avoid.

Those who are using broker for the first time, it's crucial to ask yourself this 3 questions. Is the broker I am using always right? Has he been wrong before? Has he made a loss before?

Be sure to do your research on not just the company but your broker success track record as well. Be sure to ask, if they don't show or can't show...guess you know the whole story.

i am new here, can someone please explain to me the long game for this company? have they secure any contract? expected gain until june 2021 and sep 2021? who are the clients? what makes the difference to their performance? If what i hear is good, i will buy in.

Company that raise fund tends to do it because they wish to grow their business. In other word, to produce more in order to increase their revenue and profit. With calculated risk, AT should know what they are doing in order to get the most for the company and investors like us. AT and any company alike will definitely want the investors to be in it for the long game.

Will go in when it reaches 0.03 or 0.02. Sorry guys, as much as i want it to take off. I don't really see airline taking off anytime soon. The westerners gonna be lock down for a long time and they play a big part of tourism economy.

https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/rubberglove_y2023/2020-11-22-story-h1536552408-Salcon_8567_AT_0072.jsp

https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/rubberglove_y2023/426467.jsp

"It is stated in the news that the vaccine was well tolerated, with the majority of side-effects classed as mild or moderate"

Here I am in my chair, thinking and pondering about the minority of side-effects that are severe and serious.

https://www.nst.com.my/world/world/2020/11/641640/moderna-vaccine-945pct-effective-2nd-breakthrough

KYY is only human after all.

Yeap, very true. It will bounce right back up. Btw bobiman, i did a prediction share value by using the min profit that they would earn. Answer came back to 0.30.

Ai ya, just saw your comment that you cant average it down. don't worry man. just chill and wait.

wulika, if you can. Average it down if possible. if no cash, i recommend waiting up to june 2021 until the share start to rise automatically. i did the math. you are good man. not to worry. i believe within the next 3-4 weeks, it may just bounce back to where you are.

All the warriors from the other side went to sleep already? So sad, tomorrow i will join in earlier to "discuss" together and share informations with proofs.

MadCow75 many people play contra, it dropped because many tak sempat to make profit and force to make a cut loss. But don't worry, we are having more solid players. Just a matter of time.

MadCow75 i want to let you know we are solidifying our position toward making 0.20 as the new base. I believe this happens after investors saw pictures of the progress of AT factory this morning. All on schedule.

Madcow75, lets not be forgetting that there are people that also played contra for quite some times and some of them regretted playing with contra. But surprisingly what i discover is some decided to go AGAIN but this time, WITHOUT contra. So we being at 0.185 is actually not badddd despite market going all red. we even at a point were green in the morning.

Eventually, thank you for sharing this piece of news to educate us all. now we all know there is indeed a world shortage of gloves. Gloves and Vaccines seems to be complimenting each other in the end it seems.

Yo Madcow75! We meet again! From the look of it, I seem to be missing the party. So which person wants to have his logic tested this time? From what i recall, a lot of people were expecting it to drop to 0.13-0.15 for today when I keep telling them that it shouldn't it will lead to a free fall which doom everyone including the big sharks.

If it goes lower starting from 0.15, a risk of free fall will, happen down to 0.01 can happen. Not good to anyone including big sharks. Many, are avoiding it by building a safety net around 0.17 and working on 0.20.

Investors are building a resistant floor from 0.17 up and are now building around 0.20. Trying to solidify it so that it can shoot up eventually.

Madcow75, the market has already decided that the bottom resistence is 0.18. Now working towards 0.19 and eventually 0.20. Luckily didn't break go below 0.15 otherwise free fall. Bad for all and many will suicide. No joke.

https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/GlovesRally/2020-11-19-story-h153649 update for today

Just a friendly reminder, I factor in the future 50m net profit with a pe ratio of 15. The price is 0.30. So try not to be so greedy between 0.30-0.34

0.17-0.34 is the new playing field and game now. Have fun guys.

It's not a fast come back, the people or the majority of the investors here has decided that the lowest will be 0.17. Any lower it will be deem to be dangerous that can lead to a free fall of share price (0.01 or whatever is lowest). Now we have a rough idea that people are willing to trade between 0.17 and 0.34 (I double it because many would want to try to double their money if possible).

https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/GlovesRally/2020-11-19-story-h1536493635-ATIAN_Visit_to_ATG_Factory.jsp

News that won't be found on localcnewspaper anytime soon but here.

Good chance it will shoot up after 0.16 or 0.17. 0.18 is also possible. Buy at your convenient.

for those who wonder where i get 330b demand, i got it from careplus annual report 2020. go check it out. https://careplus.com/investor-relations/annual-reports/

Simple reason for year 2021 rubber glove demand between 330b-350b pieces.

Because there are at least 7.8billion people living here, it takes a lot of time for people to be vaccinated.

At the moment, Russia is facing a shortage of rubber gloves as much as China and USA (also other countries). Not only do these countries need rubber gloves but the western countries have a demand for nurses too of at least 300% of their current number of nurses.

For example, USA needs additional 11million nurses to avoid shortage of nurses and let alone replacing the nurses that had died from covid19.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK493175/

at least 96 million nurses and doctors world wide need to use rubber gloves everyday before treating any patients. Many of which have to change for a new pair of gloves many times a day to treat different patients.

the simple way of explaining is less doctor and nurses will be needed when there are less covid patients because of vaccines. however, people don't really do proper research to find out that there is a global rubber shortage at the moment even after 6 months of vaccine. Fun fact, Malaysia actually controls 60% of the rubber glove market worldwide.
in year 2019, 190b rubber glove demand world wide.
in year 2020, 330b rubber glove demand world wide

if we are all vaccinated next year, i still believe 2021 the rubber glove demand somewhere between 330b-350b or more. however after that, it may drop back to 190b or less due to over supply or lack of rubber material to make rubber gloves.

after 6 months, we wait for news to see if LKL decides to extend another year contract with AT. AT may also potentially have other customers by then but at the moment, to be safe. we focus on LKL deal.

please take note that there is heavy expenses. to be safe, just deduct it by 60-70% as the most expenses and treat the rest as net profit. so...20-30mil net profit in 6 months time.

wulika, 2 years (end june 2022) for best result. another 6 months is just the first payment of $90-100 mil gross profit.

i am no expert but if people are smart, they start to push at 0.17 and not letting it drop to 0.16 (safety net) otherwise it will drop to 0.15 (danger free fall zone that can even go down to 0.05). this will create be too much insecurities for the people that could lead to some people suiciding.

lamching, it may perhaps drop a little bit first and then rise. there is always a chance. all i know is, it will eventually go to 0.30. it's just a waiting game

I want to as clear as possible why 0.16 and not 0.15. To simplify, i know the boss needs $120m to for his new dipping line. all he need to do is to sell 400m shares at a price of 0.30. if price drops to 0.10. he has to sell 1.2b shares to cover which is very disadvantage to him. especially when there are only 3.281b NOSH shares at the moment. meaning to say, there can be a new bigger shareholder to overwrite him so it's not a wise move.

many reasons why it has to be at least $0.30

zeen333, the esos is probably for the 1200 workers if i am not wrong (i got the number of workers fact from koon blog, thank you for your hardwork mr koon). their shares are prob worth nothing if they sell it at 0.26. if they work hard enough and get 10x more the order then it will def be worth something.

i advise newbies to buy at 0.16 as its lowest if they want the lowest. Any lower, it would be too dangerous. Can lead to a free fall and it wont even be good for the big sharks. If big sharks are smart, they will help to push the price above 0.17 or 0.18 to ensure it doesn't fall at 0.15 and below