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2013-11-26 09:52 | Report Abuse
that's one more point...govt initiative ..that's it..the best phrase today
2013-11-26 09:49 | Report Abuse
not just jet...business jet...stated in the agreement ..taiko jcool...untuk orang2 kaya sahaja...and
rosmah can order one...kiki...senang mau shopping ma
2013-11-26 09:48 | Report Abuse
i don't understand why some people in here are talking about instaco going to be transfered to
main board
why?
because one of the criteria to make it happen...the company MUST make profit for 3.. .i REPEAT
...THREE financial years...consecutively
and that's not the case isn't it...considering instaco previous 3 years performances???
2013-11-26 09:35 | Report Abuse
mamia...that's what i thought...but not by TA...just buy past goreng when it reached 24 cents then
fell to 11 cents..then upped to 20 cents...then now 15.5
u make me happy today....
hidup mike...hidup mike hidup mike...hidup mike hidup mike...hidup mike !!!!
jek jek jek...jangan tak jek ....thanx mike ...hidup mike!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2013-11-26 09:29 | Report Abuse
trending...what lowest price could we buy into gpacket today? any idea? and tell me a bit about it...why and how...if u have any idea,... thanx
2013-11-26 09:25 | Report Abuse
it seems not many believing kelvin anymore...fundamental has speaks...not need to comment
berjela2...peace
but pm corp can still be saved if volume is high...i mean goreng...good luck...ask mikekong..what
the TP for pm corp...i guess i saw him saying 0.235
and i love to know what's the TP for mq tech from mike...isn't he an expert in TA...come on
mike...just tell us ...pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!
2013-11-26 09:22 | Report Abuse
it seems not many believing kelvin anymore...fundamental has speaks...not need to comment
berjela2...peace
but pm corp can still be saved if volume is high...i mean goreng...good luck...ask mikekong..what
the TP for pm corp...i guess i saw him saying 0.235
and i love to know what's the TP for mq tech from mike...isn't he an expert in TA...come on
mike...just tell us ...pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!
2013-11-26 02:05 | Report Abuse
On Oct 28, 2013, Patimas had submitted an application for extension of time to submit its regularisation plan but this was rejected by Bursa Malaysia.
The reasons for the rejection are not clear but one view is that the exchange was not convinced that Patimas had in fact any substantial plan to take it out of its doldrums. Hence, as it stands now, Patimas shares will be suspended on Nov 27, and subsequently delisted on Nov 29.
link
http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Business-News/2013/11/25/Can-Patimas-be-saved-The-company-has-one-last-chance-to-stay-listed-at-least-for-now.aspx
baca betul2
2013-11-26 02:02 | Report Abuse
appear ...appear...appear...muncul muncul muncul....A-P-P-E-A-L ...lah berapa kali lu guna huruf r ni... L lah
kalau lah patimas buat rayuan dengan surat berbunyi:
Appear To Be Lifted from PN17/GN3 .....to bursa
confirm kena reject..haha
like i said before...buyin at 0.5 cents and selling at 1 cents...probability = 70%...and today if u have it...u can sell it easily at 1 cents
and to buy at 1 cents and selling at 1.5 cents ...your chance is only 5%
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Posted by ladzatz > Nov 23, 2013 12:05 AM | Report Abuse X
octagon masa dia jatuh..paling rendah cuma 4.5 cents
insbio yg sudah delisted pun lowest cuma 1.5 cents
saag yg suspended punya lama lowest 0.5 cents
and now patimas lowest 0.5 cents
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please make honest comparisons ...will patimas bangun or will it masuk kubur
u will get some kind of conclusion....your chance is not 50-50....it must be 05-95
masih ada chance..tapi sangat kecil...5% saja...and u sanggup beli?
kebarangkalian u dapat kepala bila baling syiling adalah 1/2 pasal outcomes yg mungkin... ada 2 iaitu kepala dan ekor
kebarangkalian u dapat no. 3 bila u lontar dadu ialah 1/6 pasal outcomes yg mungkin... ada 6 iaitu no. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, dan 6
kebarangkalian u success ..bila u berjaya beli at 0.5 cents and sell at 1 cents is 70%...congrat utk mereka yg keadaannya begini
kebarangkalian u success ..bila u berjaya beli at 1 cents and sell at 1.5 cents is 5%...harapan tipis utk mereka yg keadaannya begini
ini macam kalu ..main dadu lagi bagus ma
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i want to my the theory here:
2452000 / 27756900 x 100 = 8.8 % close to 5 %
what was that? volume transaction at 1.5 cents against sum of volume for the last transaction.
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this is not a fair gamble...main dadu lagi untung ma
2013-11-26 01:46 | Report Abuse
what does he meant by talented people out fr gp?...cakap mesti dengan keterangan...mesti kukuh..jangan main cakap je...kalau ada sile present kan
2013-11-26 01:36 | Report Abuse
pm corp is a very very very poor company..even after included the profit from sale of a property in
singapore at S$15.4 MILLION....berapa banyak duit malaysia?...still revenue and profit
dropped...show how 'good' the chocolate biz promoted by calvin...haha..cerita berapi2 pasal jual
property...cash payment lah....tapi profit decreases compared to preceding years...so no cash
payment for calvin
http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/1466089
2013-11-26 01:35 | Report Abuse
pm corp is a very very very poor company..even after included the profit from sale of a property in
singapore at S$15.4 MILLION....berapa banyak duit malaysia?...still revenue and profit
dropped...show how 'good' the chocolate biz promoted by calvin...haha..cerita berapi2 pasal jual
property...cash payment lah....tapi profit decreases compared to preceding years...so no cash
payment for calvin
http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/1466089
2013-11-26 01:24 | Report Abuse
latest financial result was negative again
announcement date 25th nov 2013
http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/1472105
yet we are focusing on the 'spectrum'...not 'result'...tuesday must up...osk must lift it up...if not...retreat for everyone
2013-11-25 17:25 | Report Abuse
wah first time closes under 20 cents..........ngeri
2013-11-25 13:38 | Report Abuse
wah zu sama free think..sini pun lu orang promote mq tech?...bagus2...mq tech 10 kali lagi bagus daripada tms...memang patut tolong mereka dengan promote mq tech..TP 20 cents to limit up
2013-11-25 01:56 | Report Abuse
eh...camry...wa baru sebut perkataan "upgraded" for mq tech...dan u pulak
sebut "upgrade" juga...memang signal utk beli mq tech
2013-11-25 01:46 | Report Abuse
mat sabu lagilah tak boleh pakai....
mq tech sama jetline...boleh pakai..now 14.5 cents...TP= 20 cents to
limit up...
mq tech akan buat satu jet khusus utk
rosmah...cintaku..sayangku...ibu rakyat malaysia...
mq tech menyokong penuh rosmah membeli belah dengan jet...kerana jet
lebih laju....lebih kelas...lebih style.....lebih ruang untuk menyimpan
barang2 yg sudah dibeli masa shopping
and because of jet ....mq tech class also has been upgraded ma
mq tech is waiting for big contract also from kerajaan BN...
p/s: bila mau ganti jet -jet government yg sudah lama tu?
tq BN for asking Jetline to make us the sole provider of jet precision's
components before giving them the sole licence to make biz jet
2013-11-25 01:33 | Report Abuse
Arif Bin Faruk
Disposed
20/11/2013
10,000,000
0.328
ini orang sudah REPEAT dia punya perangai beberapa bulan yg lepas....
sell now....these directors...are scum that like to sell in millions....
selamatkan diri anda...mari berharap dengan mq tech...untuk masa depan anda...tp 20 cents to limit up...mq tech..remember
2013-11-25 01:28 | Report Abuse
reached RM 2 pasal tiap2 hari keluar berita dalam news...bukan apa pun...lagi banyak orang yg rugi main ini kaunter...yg untung sedikit je...except directors and esos receivers...haha
itu waran lagi bahaya...volume very small...manipulation...lagi satu bila itu anak sudah naik..tapi emak jatuh teruk..sapa pula yg pandai dan berani mau beli itu anak???
better change to small counters to cover your losses...under RM 1 is just around the corner..yg tahan ini kaunter supaya tak jatuh...too many of them...yet it still FALLS....this u will agree with me ..if u monitor the transactions for the past few months
let's cover your losses by buying mqtech...now 14.5 cents...TP 20 cents to limit up...bye
2013-11-25 01:18 | Report Abuse
umw sells cars....while mq tech sells car's precision components...better use your big money from umw to buy mq tech...very small capital needed..u'll be rich in no time bro
TP mqtech: 20 cents to ...limit up
nightshade u sudah cut loss benalec sama tropicana? belum? and now umw?...u better watch mq tech....satu kali dia jalan..boleh cover semua lu punya rugi ma
2013-11-25 01:11 | Report Abuse
Posted by 935win > Nov 18, 2013 10:37 AM | Report Abuse
see below all buy in:
Dato' Yeoh Choon San (200,000 Shares Acquired)
LOH CHEN PENG (120,100 Shares Acquired)
DATO' SYED ARIFF FADZILLAH BIN SYED AWALLUDDIN (120,000 Shares Acquired)
DATO' ABDUL MANAP BIN ABD WAHAB (120,000 Shares Acquired)
DATO' YEOH CHOON SAN (200,000 Shares Acquired)
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935win..ko ni pandai ke tak? dah lah volume diorang beli sikit..that announcement for what they've bought on 14 november.......listing bila?....18 november..kahkah...diaorang beli harga istimewa tu..lagi rendah lagi la tu
anyone who has must ...cut loss...under RM 1..very easy ma......buy mq tech ma...mq tech pun ada buat precision components for cars ma....nanti dia naik...lu sudah boleh cover lugi...ada tambah untung lagi...limit up senang ma
2013-11-25 00:47 | Report Abuse
by the way u were suspended by i3investor aren't u? for promoting barakah-la...so we there know u bought at 64 cents?...so how much do u sell?
2013-11-25 00:43 | Report Abuse
too many reason for me explain it here...do joint us and take a look at mq tech postings....
well...one of the reason...directors and sharks of mq tech are now have full stomachs ...most of mq tech shares are now with the gang...u'll be surprised :)
2013-11-25 00:39 | Report Abuse
interested? well the TP for mq tech is from 20 cents to limit up.. :)
2013-11-25 00:35 | Report Abuse
some signals such as volume and steep decrease shows that directors might be selling...time to change counter...mq tech is a wise and better proposal
2013-11-24 23:35 | Report Abuse
Saab eyes partnership with local firms
Publish date: Wed, 20 Nov 17:56
http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/fdnews/218949.jsp
Swedish aerospace and defence company, Saab International Malaysia Sdn Bhd, is keen to establish smart partnerships with local companies to venture into areas such as radar and weaponary.
Its managing director, Thomas Linden, said the company was also keen on technological tranfer.
"We have been here (Malaysia) since 1970. Our strategies are to help South-East Asia countries, like Malaysia, improve defence capabilities and move to next level," he told reporters after a briefing session at Malaysia's National Defence University in Kuala Lumpur today.
Linden said its smart partnership with DRB Hicom involved working together to develop military sytems for the Malaysian Armed Forces.
"We have a long history with Malaysia's defence industry players ... we supply a lot of sophisticated technologies to Malaysia's air force and navy," he said.
On Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak's decision to postpone buying new Multi-Role Combat Aircraft, Linden said he was optimistic of winning the deal once the government decided to continue with the purchase.-- Bernama
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apa lagi mq tech buatlah satu lagi aggreement..dengan saab pulak :)
2013-11-24 23:31 | Report Abuse
i tell u what..tony sudah takda duit mau beli share lagi..itu pasal dia suluh anak syalikat beli syalikat sendili punya saham ..kahkahkah
2013-11-24 23:22 | Report Abuse
from the above link..here's some of what nathan said:
Nathan, who controls 70% of the company, said that right price for Eversendai would be in the range of RM2.20 and RM2.50
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never this year i think...an owner that keeps complaining about his company' share price more than nathan....
ini olang tak betul...pasal since listing...the revenues and profits always decreases.............kaki putar alam
2013-11-24 23:14 | Report Abuse
something is very fishy..for 16 quarters...i repeat...16 quarters..it made profit...then enter main board...wala...make losses
2013-11-24 23:05 | Report Abuse
baru masuk main board..dia rugi..masa dalam ace dia untung..pelik tapi benar
2013-11-24 22:41 | Report Abuse
mq tech from 11 cents went to 24 cents ..then down to 11 cents and went to 20 cents...is that not high margin???..and now 14.5 cents..and 0.3 tp is very possible ....baik punya goreng..bukan macam pw ..main sendiri..boloh
2013-11-24 22:37 | Report Abuse
u wait for the moratorium to end..then u'll know if ka shing still owns or kan-ching sama semua olang
2013-11-24 02:39 | Report Abuse
yowtp...selamat beljaya...lu mesti ada banyak ini patimas...mungkin hampir semua lu punya luit ada dalam ini kaunter...kalau bulsa sama pati kowtim mau kasih goleng...lu nasib baik...kalau tak...wa tak tau apa mau cakap..vely scaley
2013-11-24 02:33 | Report Abuse
distribution...result are poorer than previous quarter ma...but u may be right about the dividen..however people have already anticipated it when it was under 69 cents...cuba lu tambah 6 cents...berapa dapat? = 75 cents...itu harga 75 cents ialah harga yg dia main sekalang dalam 2 minggu..wa pu tak tau apa boleh belaku...bye
2013-11-24 02:07 | Report Abuse
pw tak boleh beli pasal directors bukan taik hidung saje yg masin...taik betul pun...mas... wa belum rasa..tapi wa mau cakap...masin jugak
2013-11-24 02:02 | Report Abuse
camrybenz88...itu rhb gila...on 20 november dia kata TP 1.65...belum sampai 1 hari..on 21 november ..dia kata TP 1.31 ..haha...tak boleh pakai punya analisa
2013-11-24 01:45 | Report Abuse
semua olang sini suka celita pasal aircraft? penerbangan?..well please come to the forum of a very small company that has been awarded a 10 years contract by Jetline International to make components of business jet.......yeah mq tech
2013-11-24 01:43 | Report Abuse
wa ingat rosmah mesti beli satu biz jet..sendili punya..suluh itu jetline international sama mq tech kasih design ma....no more kontroversi...wa punya mq tech pun boleh naik ma...kikiki..mana-mana celita pasal aircraft kah jet kah plane kah..wa punya mq tech related ma boleh selit masuk dalam ini thlead ma
2013-11-24 01:34 | Report Abuse
see the last statement by Tan..seems very honest...3 years baru untung...dia mau beli murah ..itu pasal dia cakap itu macam...pasal dia punya geng/directors beli manyak ma
2013-11-24 01:29 | Report Abuse
continue from previous:
MQ Technology plans to capture as much as possible of the aviation-components market available in South-East Asia, which is estimated to be worth RM3bil a year, according to Tan.
The AS9000 standard, developed by US aerospace prime contractors, standardises and streamlines many of the other aerospace quality management standards.
The AS9000 standard is based on ISO 9000, with 27 additional requirements unique to the aerospace industry.
MQ Technology also signed a collaboration agreement with READ Co Ltd Japan on Sept 5 to produce chemical mechanical polishing (CMP) pad conditioners for the semiconductor wafer market.
Tan said CMP pads are used for smoothening the surface of semiconductor wafers, which are now 200mm and 300mm in diameter.
“The semiconductor wafers are now becoming larger to reduce the cost of production.
“The larger the wafers are, the more CMP pads will be needed to polish the surface,” Tan added.
The global market size of the CMP pad conditioner market is about RM800mil currently, and is expected grow between 7% to 12% yearly, according to Tan.
“Our CMP pads will be branded as Microread and are expected to be launched in the market early next year.
“The objective is to capture a 5% market share of the RM800mil CMP pad conditioner market.
“We are now at the final product verification stage,” Tan added.
MQ is expected to be a profitable group in three years, according to Tan.
2013-11-24 01:28 | Report Abuse
ini pula berita paling baru...
ini berita 1 november 2013 punya ...Published: Friday November 1, 2013 MYT 12:00:00 AM
http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/SME/2013/11/01/Moving-into-the-aerospace-market-Company-to-switch-from-hard-drive-business-to-diversify-revenue-str.aspx
Moving into the aerospace market
SEEING a decline in its hard disk drive (HDD) component business, MQ Technology Bhd, a local company in the high-precision tooling HDD industry, is diversifying into the aerospace business, with plans to make it the only Penang-based company with the technological capability to make parts and components for aircraft.
MQ Technology plans to start production of small components used in private jets by the middle of next year for Jetline International (M) Sdn Bhd, a local company licensed by the Ministry of International Trade and Industry to design, manufacture, and assemble aircraft and aircraft parts.
MQ Technology group managing director Tan Cheow Boon said that the group was now working with Jetline on the detailed drawings of the parts and components needed.
“We are studying the kind of production capacity we need to manufacture for Jetline.
“We are also talking to financial institutions on the funding required to execute this project,” Tan said.
On Aug 19, MQ Technology through its subsidiary, Microlead Precision Technology Sdn Bhd, entered a contract manufacturing agreement with Jetline for the provision of services, parts and components of aircraft for a period of 10 years effective from the date of signing of the agreement.
Under the agreement, Jetline will disclose to Microlead the technology necessary to enable the company to manufacture the products.
“Jetline has secured orders for 250 SJ30 private jets over the next 10 years.
“We will be producing small components and parts used in the wing panels and landing gear of the private jets.
“We also plan to build a new plant on a one-acre site within the existing premises of MQ’s headquarters in Bayan Lepas to focus on our aerospace activities. We have already drawn up the building plans for the facility.
“We are now applying for the AS9000 certification, the aerospace basic quality system standard, that will qualify us to make parts and components for the aerospace market,” he said.
2013-11-24 01:19 | Report Abuse
lagi promote:
http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Business-News/2013/03/27/Jetline-seen-generating-RM13bil-turnover.aspx
Published: Wednesday March 27, 2013 MYT 12:00:00 AM
ya bulan mac ..berita lama..tapi wa mau bagi empahsis sikit:
GEORGE TOWN: Jetline International (M) Sdn Bhd, a local jet manufacturer, will generate RM13bil in turnover for five years starting from 2016 following its acquisition of a RM1.1bil US-based jet manufacturing company.
Jetline inked the acquisition deal last year and will invest over RM1bil, with plans to start initial production in Subang.
There are plans to move the production to the Kuala Lumpur International Airport at a later date.
Malaysian Investment Development Authority (Mida) chief executive officer Datuk Noharuddin Nordin said the acquisition was a landmark deal by itself, in line with the country's pursuit of a high income economy that would bring more than just inexpensive assembly labour'and catapult the country to become a developed nation by 2020.
”With the acquisition, Jetline will bring to Malaysia the high technology of aircraft design, manufacturing, and assembly,” he said after the handing over of an aircraft manufacturing licence from Mida to Jetline at the Langkawi International Maritme and Aerospace exhibition 2013.
Noharuddin said the new incentive packages for the aerospace industry that were endorsed by the Government has already seen positive results.
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komen gua: ini yg cakap dan diinterview ialah Ceo MIDA...bukan ceo jetline or mq tech...bukan berita tipu oleh ceo-ceo dalam bursa..ini berita dari agensi kerajaan ni..dan ini sudah pasti bukan rumor
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cerita yang rumor pulak (wp begitu wa fikir ini bukan rumor pasal nama investment banking dan kaedah pengambilalihan telah dinyatakan dengan jelas ma) ialah cerita takeover oleh jetline...tapi ini macam punya business lebih baik dia ambil alih pasal ini billion punya bisnes..lagipun dalam agreement kata dia mesti pindahkan teknologi kepada mq tech...tapi sapa yg suka pindahkan teknologi??? mitsubishi punya lama jadi partner proton pun kedekut mau pindah teknologi...satu cara nak elak perkara ini...mesti ambilalih ma
2013-11-24 01:07 | Report Abuse
Polishing Pad Conditioner itu involves diamond as cutter and polisher...ini company bukan calang-calang bro...dia tak main dengan gold..dia main dengan diamond bro
2013-11-24 01:04 | Report Abuse
yang ini pulak dengan Read Co. Ltd (Japan)
OTHERS MQ TECHNOLOGY BERHAD (“MQ” OR “THE COMPANY”) COLLABORATION AGREEMENT SIGNED BETWEEN MICROLEAD PRECISION TECHNOLOGY SDN. BHD. (“MPT”), A WHOLLY OWNED SUBSIDIARY OF MQ, AND READ COMPANY LTD (“READ”)
http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/1401621
2. INFORMATION AND RATIONALE OF THE AGREEMENT
MPT entered into the Agreement with READ in relation to the manufacture and sale of
Chemical Mechanical Polishing Pad Conditioner.
The Agreement was entered into with the following objectives :-
(a) READ to transfer the back end processes to MPT to manufacture the Chemical Mechanical
Polishing Pad Conditioner;
(b) READ to provide all the technical and knowhow support to MPT to manufacture the
Chemical Mechanical Polishing Pad Conditioner;
(c) to allow MPT to use its own brand on the Chemical Mechanical Polishing Pad Conditioner
and enable MPT to market and sell the Chemical Mechanical Polishing Pad Conditioner.
The Agreement shall commence on the date of the execution of the Agreement. There is no
payment to be made by MPT to READ on the Agreement.
and ini Read punya website:
http://www.read.co.jp/englishver/company/index.html
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both has significant technologies transfer dudes...ini company is a precision company...and from what i have read...which is in the read ltd website...they're playing with 'micrometer' components and precisions/accuracy ...and they're now are getting into nanotechnology
2013-11-24 00:58 | Report Abuse
ramai orang tak tau the 2 agreement one with jetline international and the 2nd one with Read Co. Ltd (Japan) involved significant transfer of technologies
1. dengan jetline wa potong dia punya technology transfer-related
MQ TECHNOLOGY BERHAD (“MQ” OR “THE COMPANY”)
CONTRACT MANUFACTURE AGREEMENT SIGNED BETWEEN MICROLEAD PRECISION TECHNOLOGY
SDN. BHD. (“MPT”), A WHOLLY OWNED SUBSIDIARY OF MQ, AND JETLINE INTERNATIONAL (M)
SDN. BHD. (“JET”) for the provision of services and parts and components of aircrafts to JET
for a period of 10 years e
http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/1393341
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JET holds a Manufacturing License issued by the Ministry of International Trade & Industries,
Malaysia to design, research and development, manufacture, fabricate, construct, tooling and
assemble aircrafts and aircraft parts and components for business aircrafts.
Pursuant to the Agreement, JET agrees to engage MPT to be the sole and exclusive
manufacturer and producer of parts, equipment and components for all the aircrafts to be
produced by JET (“the Products”).
The Agreement shall continue for a period of 10 years subject to further extension mutually
agreeable to MPT and JET.
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ini yang penting:
Pursuant to the Agreement, JET shall disclose to MPT the technology as is necessary to enable
MPT to manufacture the Products in accordance with the specification. JET shall from time to
time during the period of the Agreement consult with MPT pertaining to the process of
manufacturing of the Products and the use of JET’s Technology.
MPT will only need to modify their existing machineries to meet up with the specification of the
JET’s requirements.
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JET shall issue purchase order to MPT as and when JET requires the supply of the Products from
MPT and the value of the order will then be determined at that point of time.
2013-11-24 00:33 | Report Abuse
sikalang sudah banyak olang asean super kaya..meleka tak mau naik kapal terbang awam
lagi...meleka mau naik business jet....only jetline international has the licence in malaysia to
make.such plane................i repeat : " make "...
itu mq tech sudah dapat kontrak for 10 years from jetline ..company kecil bila dapat kontrak ini
macam...akan jadi busat ma
2013-11-24 00:25 | Report Abuse
kalau orang macam jcool masuk...dah tentu ini kaunter bagus...lu cerita sikit jcool sama orang2 dlm ini thread ...berapa banyak lu dah untung barakah-LA itu hari
Stock: [PATIMAS]: PATIMAS COMPUTERS BHD
2013-11-26 09:56 | Report Abuse
it's not even 50-50 chance...why want to consider
it's 5% chance
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i give u one scenario...if u still want to buy...with better chances
must have transaction close to patimas OUSTANDING VOLUME...then at 1 cents...u have a 50-50 chance selling it at 1.5 cents