zzzzz,
hope so....

AhMoi.
hope all will go well else..where to go....

sbzk,
bought long time ago..but still in red till today

sbzk,
hope this time alibaba will come back with real 1001 night stories till end 2014...kikiki

1. the likely case :
the overall bearish risk out look is over for now as the EU's QE has stated as shown by current global equity mkt strong rebound... (EU financial & economic was the main caused of the recent sell off)...as usual mkt will move accordingly n potential short but strong bull run in Nov/Dec 2014 before global consolidation by early 2015 mainly due to USA debt limit again ??? yes again ???? i.e expected to reach the limit by mid march 2015 n likely the usa law makers will ding dong again like last time which cause usa government shut down in sept/oct 2013...

2. the best case :
major bull cycle at least for next 6 months

3. the worst case :
Potential Russian shutting the gas n oil taps to EU/Ukraine in the coming winter due to the current Russia/Ukraine Oil n gas deal negotiation break down...causing global mkt sell off after this short rebound to early 2015......

n good luck all...

nick,
TQ for sharing your opinion...but i m scare to go in wthout good fundimental....i will wait for next qtr result probably will be out by end Nov....

Investeye,
what is yr price expectation within 1~2 years... if u can share it...

kikiki...alibaba & kasimbaba gone case...???

abcb,
wah look like good news luckily bought some today....

guys just wounder wth very little last qtr eps 1+cent (i.e pe 60+) , how come the price still very much holding above 65cent, yes i know alot of projects but what is the point if eps probably next one would be as the last qtr....any help to explain this....

dont think those people will pay....the reason is if dont pay what can azrb do....chop their head n cut their hand? ?? dont think azrb has the power n influance to do that n make me wounder if azrb current price will be holding if that becoming reality.....

is that signalling azrb getting cheeper...?

apini,
yes u are right the correction look like over for now ???...EU mkt show u turn indication....but keep gadang to 2016/17 no worry...
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/intlindices?e=europe

apini n all,
tq for all the sharing n i have put all mine into safe box,it is time for me to take a break for short while....wish u all good luck..

anyway looking at usa mkt & VIX i dont think i will get gadang at rm1.20....n on positive note alot more counters are as good as gadang so if i dont get that price just let the option open cause opertunity will always come n go every day just matter making the suitable choice that fit to my risk apetite....good luck guys...
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kglim,
conbine all that i posted earlier especially on yoyo game...the end result would be i will still maintain the same number of shares of course with less paper/passing by value (that why importent to have good fundimental stock which caries strong value although relatively under value during the cirrection time ) but making some pocket money....n specific for gadang. ..
1. it has balance investment portfolio ( construction, utility n plantation)
2. strong financial back ground
3. strong menagement team
4. multi years project at hand
so wth all the above i will not worry even if gadang goes down to 90cent if 20% to 30% correction do heppen...cause i now some where in future wth back drop of y2015 budget approx rm80bil it will go even higher once it recovers

kglim,
i am waiting at <1.2 to maintain my total eggs......if any....today sold 100k have to buy back 100k

i always remind myself bskl is mkt place an instrument hopefully help to make some money n no emotional attachment to it.....

apini,
i am just trader to make pocket money....if the money is good vs time i will sell accordingly....

apini,
yes gadang boleh that right....n hope now u can relax being long term investor and enjoy long holiday with yr wife till 2016/17....n once a while if u see gadang red pricing... just remember the future dabble kicks that worth a while to safely waiting n keeping it.....n good luck

my next round yoyo game just targeting to buy capchay, easy n cheap to move around looo

apini,
yes gadang boleh that right....n hope now u can relax being long term investor and enjoy long holiday with yr wife till 2016/17....n once a while if u see gadang red pricing... just remember the future dabble kicks that worth a while to safely waiting n keeping it.....n good luck

if this is really syndicate play as per wongchowsang then the next down even better n deeper...let see how the whole cycle unfold....

tq gadang...for short holiday pocket money....now hoping its diving down to buy back....may be by next week...

CHONGWAY,
bought last week 100k gadang @ average 1.41 sold just now @ average 1.494..

as i posted earlier to me this is just technical rebound before diving to another around 10% down once the margin call, force sell etc kick in...

apini,
haha hope u enjoy the yoyo game today....sold my 100k units yoyo @ average 1.1494

CHONGWAY,
what have posted is very much related to bskl n global sell off, it doesnt metter wth or wthout sendicate price still going down n for gadang if u keep it till all the grandmother stories are over probably 6 to 9months from now it will recover to at least to 1.80 or even more....n probably if u keep to 2017/18 could be reaching 4.00 due to :
1. the construction game 2015 onward
2. potential palm oil price turn bullish toward end 2016 continue to 2017...which currently in bearish trend
3. infact if u look around 2016-2017 alot of projects reaching to their final milestones n eps likely booming...
to me no harm doing nothing n lock gadang in safety box till 2017 sell before pru14
but for now i want to make some pocket money so i just trade gadang following yoyo muzik because after all my average gadang buying is 1.25 n a lot of good option n choice equivelent to gadang available in the mkt against y2015 budget construction projek....
to me is just optimization in order to make money..yes all are about making money the rest just things or instrument to make money....it could be gadang azrb htpadu trc mrcb etc....n investment in equity is always fluid n dynamic n we have to accept this reality and dance n sing accordingly

apini,
so by now i guess u start to understand why gadang n azrb are my favorite counters n u see now no azrb stock price sky rocketing...this what i means when u see gadang price in 2011/2012. perfectly just like other counters price movement...so for long term play just buy man2 slowly2 on the price deep...n keep in the safety box for next 2 years??? after enough buying mean while go play kite n go on holiday till 2017/18...kiki

apini,
dono let wait azrb FY2014 report..my best guess still lost on plantation but less... the beauty about oversea venture is the company can hoard the gain because it is beyond msian law...kikiki

they can always put lost making as much as they can until such time once the exchange rate is favorable to repatriate the gain which will has triple kick affect to the stock price...

4u2c,
azrb n gadang both have palm oil but azrb indon palm oil exposure while gadang local exposure in east msia about 10000 hectore...?however gadang has different type of exposure in indon i.e on power generation and fresh water supply & treatment...

azrb lost rm27mil on plantation in FY2013

anyway of recent news indon cancel the motion to limit 30% foreign holding so gadang n azrb are safe for now...n both potentially will have dabble kick affects, first kick by the construction game and later probably in late 2016 to 2017 the 2nd kick will come form palm oil once its price turn bluish which potentially send the stocks price through the roof...so buy n keep n then selling before pru 14 which last date on 5/5/2018....

those are just my 2cent grandmother opinion...kikiki...n good luck...

apini,
for now the immediate game title is construction as clearly spelled in y2015 budget approx rm80 bil for 3 to 5 years to come...n this just like previous oil n gas game which last about 2 years, the construction may have at least have 1 year++ to play once all the global grandmother stories are over such as EU/ECB ebola etc......normally these type of grandmother stories will last the most 6 to 9 months just like the recent one on ukraine/russia...started in march now by oct mostly forgotten

safest to focus on local plantation co but not for now...have to monitor the palm oil price u turn...no worry the palm oil has been down for more than 3 years n still very much intact in bearish cycle...n the interesting part most of the plantation counters are still in cloud 9 despite the bearish palm oil price...i guess these are the counters that will be badly hammered once the grandmother stories taking full effect to overall global mkts...i dont think this counters are good for yoyo game kikiki...

my take the best yoyo game is belong to construction sectors...n good luck

AhMoi,
this chart may help...
http://www.4-traders.com/MALAYSIA-PALM-OIL-16222/technical_analysis-full/&plein=1

wah azrb look great now....but need to look greater n lastly greatest for buying...

even the no. 1 invester make mistake and bite the bullet...Buffett sells off ‘huge mistake’ Tesco....
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102092816

what others are saying....
1. http://www.cnbc.com/id/102094882

2. http://www.cnbc.com/id/102097435

3. http://www.cnbc.com/id/102098762

4. http://www.cnbc.com/id/102098928

so good luck...

apini,
i also very much learning....as i posted earlier my stretegy now is very much focus on unwinding my current position i.e selling on the strength...n on yoyo game my observation indicate that can not be done on daily basis n 2 ways to do it...

(this is wth my asumtion that yoyo to bearish mkt n the current stuation it just technical rebound)
1. buy on overly sold mkt tergeting on overly sold n active counter e.g like gadang, skpetro, sumatec etc...and sell on rebound....but be careful just small lots only cause reboud my wth out strong volume

2. sell first buy later on the counter that u have...e.g i have gadang, now i will sell some on the mkt strength n buy back once mkt overly sold so i will make pocket money but maintain my total number sparkling jewels....but if instead gadang buck the mkt trend i will sell all gadang n man2 slowly2 look for new wife....kikiki like azrb etc...

infact i bought some gadang shares last week at it peak over sold position u now can guess what next....

infact i was planing to buy skpetro...but worry my heart will beating out of control so cancel the plan....kikiki

major bull especially for construction n plantation from 2nd half 2015 to 2017...???

CHONGWAY, TQ for sharing...i use to access chart that long but the web site has cut short all only to 5 years n no more index chart.....

to me for now the repercation after >5% correction is likely to happen such as margin call force selling etc n all of these will be the trigering point for 20% to 25% full blown correction....

this technical prediction is applicable not only bskl but also to global mkt cause to the rest of major mkts this is considered as bull mkt for "short selling" n normally will last 3 months to 6 months n combined wth usa debt cilling expected to come in march 2015, grecee general election in june (potential the left wing to win which will cause eu uncertainty on grecee).... so all the above make me think that :

1. likely case for 3 to 6 months would be yoyo roller coster mkt globally wth 20%+ correction

2. best case would be side way to < 5% gain

3. worst case >30% global correction...

so good luck to all. ...

but let think positively in consideration of the posibility of the above wth respect to msian fundemental....

1. good y2015 budget for construction

2. gst n less petrol subcidy are good for financial msian government improvement

3. msian economic is intect....

all in all to me next few months are good time for cherry picking...especially if worst case senerio do happen...

so after all to me this is blessing to all of us...e.g can buy gadang at rm1....or may be 90cent? ??? kikiki...

for me is time to go back to fuchau for short while....so all are working positively at least for me...because at longer term this correction will likely lead to potential major bull cycle for bskl after all priced in all the grand mother stories above n indon equity melt down likely trigged by petrol price increase, india mkt by global correction.....latter up cycle led by china n japan mkt major bull cycle including bskl

apini,
to me always think positively for what ever the mkt is.....now it is likely yoyo muzik time n i love to dance n sing the yoyo tango...kiki....can mak money one no worry....

kglim,
my best gess monday likely good day driven by friday eu n us mkt rally....n several factors have to be considered for the following days...
1. eu mkt n us mkt performance on monday which will be driving bskl n asia region sentiment...
2. holiday mood for depavali on thurday n awalmuharam on saturday.....
3. ubderlaying issues related to ECB which i posted above..
4. Russia is taking EU states sanction to Russia to world court of law
5. Russia signals less gas supply to EU in the coming winter..

to me all these sugest the up swing likely short live n potentially be a global yoyo mkt for few months....so good luck...

haha good news from EU......no worry guys the yoyo tango will continue..
.let dance n sing this yoyo tango for few months before amigadon....kikiki

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102097243

so be careful guys it look like global yoyo mkt....so have to dance n sing wth yoyo muzik i.e friday really up to the sky but late monday n tuesday likely swing down like hell....kikiki. ... so optimise the posibility...n good luck....

us & eu look good for likely fueling bskl up swing next week...
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101900688?utm_expid=66135139-10.kmacaZOuRDi6dQcJUz_RYw.1

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/intlindices?e=europe

apini,
probably as a company u want to compare those companies as if how was gadang in 2011/2012...that may help u to do some forward assessment on those co...

i look more to company future fundimental improvement vs y2015 budget....

apini,
yes u are right if looking recent n current situation....but those companies look differently on pontential future earning...

kglim,
not to worry every day opertunity come n go....actually u dont miss any thing...for me just focus on managing what i have for now to optmise wth what i believe just potentially technical rebound....n latter looking new opertunity such as azrb trc htpadu etc...

anyway nice gadang show today hope will continue for few more days...guys let enjoy the show....

apini,
i have few good gadang yoyo game....kikiki

apini,
my own strategy now n next few days (wth my assumption that this is just technical rebound good for 5 to 9 days) the current situation is just good for exit point i.e selling, minimize lost(cut lost) n not for buying ...and currently i have 1200k units (excluding gadang) of several stocks to exit form potential long bearish mkt at least for 1 to 2 months to let the dust settle down...

may be just technical rebound for 5 to 9 trading days if the sell off is more than 5% according to the historical expert then will continue another 10% to 15% correction before resting at around -20% to -25%..according to the expert main reason of the occurence are due to force sell off, margin call, short selling n bearish sentiment...be ....careful n good luck guys....

apini,
passing by number look good but for your eyes only...kikiki...