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2013-05-10 00:57 | Report Abuse
this CMSB surfaced twice in the forum yesterday. yuzuki also mentioning it. the eps growth rate looks impressive.they are controlling shareholder of Kenanga as well.
ATM related ...same scenario again when people questioning whether can make money from VT's related counters previously?
no harm putting into watch list
2013-05-10 00:33 | Report Abuse
top the losser list for 2nd day....make it 3rd day later this morning
2013-05-08 21:58 | Report Abuse
i know it is quite hard to accept but that is what punters are expecting.
did you play any DRB Hicom CWs before or observe their movement before earlier last year? When DRB surged, all the CWs were fried accordingly until one level, the punters felt the entry price no longer affordable psychologically. But the underlying keep surging, what they do ? they swarmed the CWs with the least price per unit regardless its parameters.
strange right? it happened, not only one occasion but many occasions. I experienced the same for GenS-CWs when Gens surging from from SGD 1.4 to SGD 2.2 few years back. the punters swarming the least entry cost per unit & ignored all other parameters
it is weird but that is what i'm expecting the punters to behave when Maybank keep surging until CW,CY & CZ are perceived as out of reach psychologically
just watch, if they are going to repeat what i witnessed before :)
*provided Maybank keep surging...
2013-05-08 21:01 | Report Abuse
the worst so far i tried...ambank...:(. KIBB haven't tried so cannot comment much
2013-05-08 20:24 | Report Abuse
wanna highlight here, i haven't try any KIBB CW before, this might be the my first attempt, lol
2013-05-08 20:21 | Report Abuse
when it is a mad bull running....all the other parameters are not important to me, i'll just pick the least cost of entry per unit price
funny right? that is my habit and i'm sure some traders will exhibit the same habit as mine as well
bull run, close one eye, select the cheapest entry per unit price that is C1. that matter most to me :)
secondly, I observe C1 have a sufficient bid volume & the bid spread range is quite tight not wide. easy to cut loss if underlying not performing
2013-05-08 20:13 | Report Abuse
i love my money....at least gamble with higher % of winning lol.....
today the dividend just went ex...still got some time.
as per 2nd April 2013 ,TM-CU not held by issuer stand at 16,190,600 @ 32.38%
any chart reader here ? kindly lend some help here. what is the strong support level for TM
2013-05-08 19:53 | Report Abuse
bird flu news from China not power enough, never mind. now glove counters got another new turbo engine -SARS !!!! at France
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/05/08/france-confirms-first-case-new-sars-related-virus/
if bird flu getting worse together with SARS, 2 turbo engines. walan le ....but please don't spread until Malaysia
2013-05-08 18:58 | Report Abuse
so fast in? the underlying price swing not big enough yet...
play Petdag & Petgas 1st....
2013-05-08 18:56 | Report Abuse
premium(discount) : 3.1%
gearing: 18.2
current CH price : RM 0.075
mother share projection of RM25 ?? not break even around RM 21.6 ? :)
see how the crocodile perform next few weeks
2013-05-08 18:45 | Report Abuse
Maturity Date 30/09/2013
Exercise/Strike/Conversion Price MYR 6.0000
Exercise/ Conversion Ratio 4 : 1
need to go up RM0.50 in 4 months to strike
2013-05-08 18:33 | Report Abuse
Maturity Date 31/10/2013
Exercise/Strike/Conversion Price MYR 20.0000
Exercise/ Conversion Ratio 15 : 1
2013-05-08 18:32 | Report Abuse
Maturity Date 10/01/2014
Exercise/Strike/Conversion Price MYR 9.4000
Exercise/ Conversion Ratio 10:1
2013-05-08 18:16 | Report Abuse
no one wanna play this?
2013-05-08 18:11 | Report Abuse
i'm still glad i didn't go in :), lol. not my cup of tea
mother share performing only after GE13, before GE13, the movement is like torturing....lol
2013-05-08 17:27 | Report Abuse
the performance after GE13 really incredible, the foreign funds buying before GE13 making a lot
2013-05-08 17:24 | Report Abuse
it performed very well after the GE13, really topping the gainer list for days since Monday. congrats to those who have punted
missing the boat with no regret.
if mother share keep surging after this, time to look for higher gearing CW to maximize the leverage effect. Maybank-C1 by Kenanga looks not to bad, just not that familiar with KIBB.
2013-04-29 20:06 | Report Abuse
There is high chance his is joining politic :) , any PR member here? Give him the application form for DAP or PKR
Joining politic should be his worst case scenario......
2013-04-29 18:23 | Report Abuse
now they are following the foot path of the banks by giving DRP
http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/1272081
2013-04-29 17:38 | Report Abuse
it might be done intentionally knowing it might affect the company shares price :)
2013-04-29 17:29 | Report Abuse
3 more trading days before GE13.....1 more round bungee jumping
2013-04-29 17:12 | Report Abuse
Call Warrant:TOPGLOV-CP (C)
Maturity Date 30/04/2014
Exercise/Strike/Conversion Price MYR 5.7500
Exercise/ Conversion Ratio 5 : 1
2013-04-29 12:06 | Report Abuse
topping top gainer list today :)
2013-04-29 12:02 | Report Abuse
not realistic....someone just need to pay the cost for the power generation.
do you know how many staffs TNB hiring nationwide ? if FOC , what happen to the rice bowl of those under TNB employment ? their bonuses ? not an easy tasks for this wishful list
2013-04-27 07:31 | Report Abuse
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/h7n9-bird-flu-spreads-to-southern-china/655000.html
Contra kaki & revenge traders , this is just not your battle field
2013-04-26 18:36 | Report Abuse
http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/1263857
1901: the cousin is SEB ?
2013-04-26 16:32 | Report Abuse
shit, changes to fast...before could key in order
2013-04-26 15:34 | Report Abuse
this kind of screen view so good, every where green green :)
2013-04-26 15:02 | Report Abuse
what is going on with all the index related counters? like madness....
2013-04-26 15:00 | Report Abuse
2013-04-25 22:28 | Report Abuse
You bought at 10sen & sold away at 10.5sen. lol, why don't you wait till it command a premium deem reasonable ? 3~5% reasonable ? :) it is an indication how competitive is the current environment.
:), not hard to sell away but very very hard to sell at price deem fair with premium for 5 months. so what is the premium you think is fair for this CW with 5 months life span? 3%? 5%? why still cannot command a minimum premium? isn't it not because too many players around ? :)
the reason why the CWs is selling at almost 0% because I believe most of traders aware that market maker will only buy back at limited volume or there is no market maker participation to buy back. if market maker buying back, after volume quota of the day filled, you gotta sell the rest to other willing buyers participant.
This kind of situation makes all the participants deploy the strategy- " i'm not greedy, i only want to make 0.5 sen & i'll sell it away" but not only you will think like that. if you can think like that, other traders will think the same.
so from commanding premium of min 3~5%, everyone start to give "discount", thinking "cincai la i wanna make 0.5 sen only, not greedy mah " as long as i profit, there are so many of them, i need to beat them ( estimated around 19 players with minimum holding of 100,000 units each). now everyone don't bother about the premium any longer, as long as can profit, even 0.5 sen, don't bother. so there goes your premium of 3~5%.
yes, i do agree the price of CW is moved by underlying movement. that is not my major concern, my concern is the ability for me to sell away with the price deem fair within limited time with sufficient buy bid of the volume i intend to dispose when underlying move. if underlying move, but CW price don't move accordingly, what is the point? if underlying move, CW price move, other people manage to sell it but I'm still waiting for my queue behind so many waiting list, what is the point?
your example on CW going into discount territory is based on ideal case where underlying keep moving up without time specific time frame.
what market maker do ? yes, sufficient participation mah, why as market market need to take part? with all the bid by so many participant concealing market maker bid volume, they can totally idle around. don't participate also can, let you all fight among yourselves with your 0.5sen bid different at 0% premium.
people like me just won't go in :), unless the underlying is performing extra-ordinary, topping top gainer/losser list for days
I'm not sure how is other trader opinion but this is totally my personal view. :)
2013-04-25 18:30 | Report Abuse
there you go "you also have the big advantage of you able to sell it any time between now and expiry" - the matter is, if you cannot sell to realize the gain, it is meaningless
this is data I checked from market making disclosure by CIMB dated 2nd April 2013:http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/structured-warrants/1244825
MAYBANK-CW 1155CW 50,000,000( issued size) & 18,828,800 ( issue not held by IB) @ 37.66%. The high % of public circulation is showing that market maker is about to lose control on the market making activity.
you got approximately 19 players holding 100,000 units each trying to outdo each other & market maker
the above not including this month selling by Maybank IB.
this CW is definitely not my choice of playing but I do hope the underlying move up & market maker is going to do a better job so that those playing can realized the gain :)
2013-04-25 17:47 | Report Abuse
it is the price movement of the underlying....but i just don't buy & hold for next 5 months
the historical failure rate for buy & hold just too big & i paid a heavy tuition fees for that before. Not going to repeat the same mistake
previously for Sime-CR, did you buy & hold until expiry ? what is your result for Sime-CR coz i see it as competitive as current Maybank-CW ?
2013-04-25 17:26 | Report Abuse
lol, i'm not oracle, cannot answer you that :) but i do hold Maybank mother shares for years already, even until now still keeping.
please be reminded, buy & hold don't work well for CWs.
in my personal opinion, the market maker is doing a lousy job/screwing up the market making activity currently for this CW. the traders got a lot of chances to make money from the movement of the mother share but was denied by market maker because they just don't give a damn to buy back the CW with sufficient volume
2013-04-25 16:59 | Report Abuse
you can't play ur own game, the market maker play important role. if they screw up market making activity, your game will be screw up also
2013-04-25 16:55 | Report Abuse
i play to make $ out of market market or competitor , if i can't make money, why go in?
2013-04-25 16:53 | Report Abuse
i only play if i think i got more chance of winning even though it might be 1 on 1 against market maker only :)
you must be aware of the number of the volume the market maker gonna buy back from public if you play with huge crowd.
If market maker only limit themselves to buy back at certain volume only, the remaining excess volume who wanna buy ?
with the buy & sell bid volume for this CW, any chances you think market maker gonna absorb it all? why until now , even almost approaching 0% premium, market maker don't wanna buy back?
2013-04-25 16:45 | Report Abuse
i play with less people + market maker, not against myself la. just not my field of playing if too many people around. i feel more comfortable with less crowd.
2013-04-25 16:34 | Report Abuse
lol, just imagine if you are going against 10 other competitors similar experience to yourself at the same time have to take care of the market maker, isn't easier just to deal with lesser number of them & market maker ? :)
specifically on Maybank CWs? or any other CWs ?
2013-04-25 16:05 | Report Abuse
kcchongnz: are you referring to this one?
Maturity Date 30/09/2013
Exercise/Strike/Conversion Price MYR 9.0000
Exercise/ Conversion Ratio 5 : 1
Premium(Discount) 0.3%
Gearing: 18.09
I see too many players around, they are outdoing each other. Not my preference coz my confident level very low, cannot out beat so many competitors :).
I'm giving it a pass , i don't play in competitive environment
2013-04-25 15:24 | Report Abuse
1901: which one is his cousin? thanks in advance :)
Stock: [PETGAS]: PETRONAS GAS BHD
2013-05-13 10:29 | Report Abuse
hello croc, how is weather today ? :)
beh pai la the latest report card ,so many analysts see sunshine ahead