crownford, can I know who is the majority share holder of KHSB?

We should agree that we believe what we agree to believe..

We invest or trade based on we believe that the counter will rise up to gain profit... vice versa we sell our share when we believe it will drop drown..

We also invest our future life with what we believe who will bring wealth and excellent social life in our country than your vote is your investment.. Some people believe BR1M, Brank, Brung is worth for their living, others believe with fair economic systems, no corruption will bring brighter fair economic future for all Malaysian... Then you make your own future investment by not voting or vote anyone that you believe at..

We invest for our sustainable future social life with a fair judgement systems. Do you believe Protection can be cure by Punishment? Then what punishment? We now see a lot of social problems from gangsterism, defamationisme, corruptionism, crimemism and etc without any cure.. then you should invest with your vote... what ever vote you make it is what you believe in..

We invest for after life in what we believe in... Some believe in Islam, Christian, Buddhist, Hindu and many other faith that we believe in. I what essence you believe in it won't be the same even though some people think about harmonisation... My believe won't be the same what you believe in.. So just believe with what you believe then understand deeply with what you believe... because the profit we gain is for our after life, true or not it is our investment.

So, what ever we do is our investment and usually what we do, is what we believed in. To understand more to what we believe then do homework, study and make an assessment. Other people can only give their views professionally with what the understand and believe. So when you make a wrong decision then it is your decision. Our money if our ways to invest. If you believe with other people call with good counters, then at last is you decision to believe or no. What is the input? It is from the information you get - what was previously happened (history), was is happening (NOW) and what will happen next (Future). Judge the information yourself, look from the past, current and what will happen next to you, to your family and your future grandson family...

Your believe is your way, invest carefully.... Happy Investing...

We wait and see what will happen since the games already started...

One side want it being done sooner...

The other side sabotage the plan.. to make sure it is failed...

Some people says politic is dirty... and it is dirty when it is manipulated by dirty politician and people accept dirt is part of politic.. When people have a correct and right faith then politic is cleaned.. Politic is all about the judgement...

What will KHSB be in this period of time, Mr. Ooi already gave a good explaination. Thank Mr Ooi, the question should I collect at this period of time or wait until GE turbulence clear?

I think MB want to save Selangor land for their people since the valuation may be cheaper at this moment. Secondly, it is about the water fighting.

Why the other parties campaign not to support this taking over and ask minorities share holder I think to sell their share cheaper? Do other devil that we know start collect to sabotage Selangor plan? I believe they will do anything now to sabotage what ever PR Plan for rakyat to make a damage to PR good image now.

Bro necro, you have right for not voting...

He!x5, hope no ghost borrow your IC.

I heard, Government servant will have new salary and allowance hike...

In terms of increment I happy for them. But in terms of private workers paying higher tax is something that I think private workers need to fight for their right. I agree with what this blogger opinion you pay tax but you get nothing;
http://mylifeinvest.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2012-10-08T11:36:00%2B08:00.

I oso try to think what do I get? So far still can't find anything yet.. May be once retired I will use government hospital benefit if it still not privatize. Ha!x5 last year I paid RM22K of income tax...

Where will the money comes to support new operation cost? If the salary rise but good price increase more than what we can afford, so what the point? May be in future our currency will become like Indonesia.

Necro, not voting also a vote... it is a choice... so just use your right for not voting...

Necro, My joke, I think GOMEN can reduce country debt many ways as example the most possible. (I) Get PETRONAS to support any company at loss or laggard business link to politician such MISC, may be after this PETRON, (ii) Sell land such in Johor, (iii) increase income tax or introduce more tax... Ha!x5..

Another way around Malaysian people can help government by just a simple way they can do.... use their vote, vote for change... government actually is the people... Ha!x5..

Joke only my fren...

Emmm... bail out in the making now...

I don't benefit anything from the budget... As a tax payer, I would like to have a fair tax scheme same as what Government Servant Get. After working almost 20 year and paying tax, what I get is small house, unfair tax scheme, expensive living scenario and many more...

I should think the change now.

Thanks KCchongnz for your advice, will look into it...

Errr!!! Guys... Can we calm down... Lets discuss professionally okey...

I believe most of us come here to looks for information then the way how we invest is at our own risk. Lots of valuable information share by both of you will justify people like me to invest/trade peacefully and with strong basis...

I hope to learn more from you guys, gain information and sharing ideas..

I keep keladi for quite some time in hand. Make few times profit and they pay dividend too. Sometimes quite high sometimes low. That is the reason why I keep it look for dividend and get ready for trading gain. And will buy back once goes down.

The drawback of this counter, many times no volume.

Sometimes when got nothing to do... do nothing... time for holiday...

For me when got nothing to do, look bursa... Ha!x5...

BC, if he got deep pocket he can wait... But, Patimas few times in PN14 and now fall in PN17. The worst case scenario delist...

Good luck to him.... For those celebrate CNY, Happy CNY...

BC... in that case your friend practically ready to absorb loses.. 10 years experience..?

Thumbs up KC...

Property in my radar PTARAS, Huayang, KSL.

Phewww!!!!!... So daring?...

KCchongnz...

Mine purchased in 2007, Patimas balance 28000 unit average price at 0.124, my lucky, at the first bounced in Jan, I sold all at 0.15 with super slim profit RM700.00+. Never regret since I recovered my stuck fund. It is my luck indeed, since early of this year I'm a bit free to look after bursa.

Yup, minitrader... I hope that I will have enough fund for my retirement day.. If not then, need to work till die.. Ha!x5

Desmond Liew,

Ha!x5, the climbing will certainly happen if not delisted. Hold only good fundamental stock with dividend pay for investment.

So time to wait side line and do valuation.

Desmond Liew, agree with you..

I'm fully loaded now... still have very small amount left in market around RM30K++.

Ha!x5 minitrader, that is dreams... from the EPF insider, in actual they can give better dividend indeed... LTAT oso can give better dividend....

NewInsightSabah, I believe people dumb their share because preparing for the new ruler after GE and play safe for brighter future. Because many people think now big! Big! BIg! BIG! company in Mesia, their holding were controlled by Devil and his evils that all people knows. Though, many investor think, once the time comes Devil will force all evils to release their holding that might cause KLCI drop to new low level to show how bad is economy under new ruling and to make havoc. Once investor buying at low price, overseas investor coming into our market then company with good fundamental will start rise up again and will float KLCI.

I believe at that time devils will start losing control since no more PETRONAS, EPF, THG and other fund to bail them out even the company making loses. The game now fairer than before.

Now the question is, when should we enter the market? At the time Devil and his evils dump the good stock or when??

Above is only my opinion... and my dreams to have in future, EPF can pay dividend >15% and more certainty in stock market when Devils Syndicate eliminated totally. Can this happen? No one knows... Then we should pray for the better future.

he! he! he! BSKL already on CNY celebration... Many in red now..

We don't know how deep will the bottom this time.

But I believe if TH can do their business without interference from ruler for their depositor, TH is a bright company. And more dividend can be paid. Now dirty hand was used THG depositors money to bail out many failed company. I one time stuck in Carotech a biodiesel/palm oil extraction company. My lucky only very small holding in that counter. TH group keep buying carotech share even though it fall in PN17. Since TH buy, I also buy because TH buy and believe with their action plan. Why TH buying? I didn't see any good reason instead of saving someone that already drowned. Now the counter dead. If not it will become THcarotech I think. I read in a blog express dissatisfaction with THG here :
http://mylifeinvest.blogspot.com/2010/03/tabung-haji-in-limelight.html

In this moment of time, me myself don't believe with high premium warrant at low gearing. Hope you can make a good judgement with your holding. Others can advise but it is your money and it should be your decision to make.

Phewww! yukchian, price now 26cent almost 27% drop...

Just wondering why did you purchase thheavy-wa instead of its mother share...

I would like to learn why some people purchase warrant at high premium and low gearing..

How big is the sale?
How low will it falls?
How fast can we run?
Valuation time....

How deep is the bottom this time?? Any clues?

Do Patimas already out from PN17?

Hopefully not to the graveyard yet....

Yup... Fact and Figure... I'm oso scientifically background... but I believe one more thing "FATE"...

Fact, Figure and Fate...

sacking 3 directors... new directors coming.... changing of auditors...

It is old saga drama played by Patimas... What else news? New contract? New bidding? MOA/MOU...

Who dare to take risk, play carefully... High pain, High Gain or it can change oppositely..

So good luck guys, now waiting to prepare for new portfolio...

Until now EPF did not announce dividend yet? Why?

Be careful and good luck, hope fate at our side....

My experience with this counter... if still not delisted then chances to make profit still there... I believe the best price can go in around RM0.05. The owner of this counter will create sentiment to push the counter up. This is their pocket money indeed..

Ayoooo... you are sharing birthday with me kaaa.... Ha!x5.. Happy belated birthday.... and good luck for your patimas...

I stay aside from Patimas... Waiting good to clear my balance portfolio before GE13...

TA vs FA = FA + TA

Most likely TA (Traders) and FA (investors)

Short terms investor turn to traders and long terms traders become investors...

When make money then it is correct analysis + good fate... no fate then...

Lesson Learnt... or Lesssss on Learnt...

Ha!x5... today no market...

CPE is an investment company...

Why Patimas?

CPE is an investment company...

Why Patimas?

Congratulation guys...

I heard same as bullbear post. Selangor will dissolve after Chap Goh Mei.

Still waiting for EPF and other big bully fund announcement on dividend. Until now quiet. Why? Do they wait after GE?

Yup... That's why they can get huge solar quota for FiT. I heard others fighting in the dark for the quota...

Still got hope or not???

What cause fall in PN17?

Further to the First Announcement made by the Company on 1 and 2 November 2012, the Board of Directors of Patimas wishes to inform that the Company is still in the midst of formulating a plan to regularise its financial condition ("Regularisation Plan").

Pursuant to Paragraph 4.1 (b) of PN17 the Board anticipates that the Regularisation Plan will not result in a significant change in the business direction or policy presently adopted by the Company.


This announcement is dated 29 January 2013.

William Wang, I purchased this share in year 2007 just before market crash due to sentiment JV project with IRIS. Keeping sooooo long for rebounce. It rebounds few time previously but just for very short period. My lucky, it not delisted till now and this round there was opportunity for me to dispose my holding.. Can this company turn profitable? I think there is a possibility but depends how the BOD working toward that. Lets take Digistar counter as example. Its take 4.5 year for me to harvest Digistar profit. My lucky as well, worth waiting and keeping since I gain 400% for that. Not to mention other stock that I lost after counter delisted.

Then lesson learnt again....

Our own money, our own way... Listen! Listen! Listen! Invest at our own risk... Dare to take risk? Our decision is our own risk..

Lesson Learnt...

Normally this counter do rest at 5cent and below... If it didn't move to PN17 then lucky strike... I'm interested with this counter once it is below then 5cent only... Patimas business wise, I don't really know how worst is their performance... I have experience before with digistar... after 5 years their business perform well and my investment 200% profit after sold. In case of Patimas, so many things unclear.

Thanks legend623 you have make a point here... I put in my radar.. quite a period of time not monitoring and do deep analysis. This whole week I take leave, just to see possibility to make a fresh collection.. With a hope and pray to have a fair ruler soon.

Emmm!!! Listen! Listen! Listen! Listen! Listen!

My 1/4cent opinion... be careful comrade, when catch the falling knife.. some people bleeding but some people can return the knife back to those who drop the knife...

I believe there is some room to move but depending how long this stock can sustain without being delisted. But once delist, then nothing to say..

If looking into Patimas 2Q financial report, if and if it can be trusted then EPS = -1.63sen with NTA/share= -RM0.03. This counter already in PN14 for so long. In previous time it is like a sister to IRIS. Any new IRIS project, Patimas is his partner. But now?

Able to scrap this counter after a long period of time keeping it, is something like a day dream. If the price drop to 0.035cent then I will think thrice to take risk @ gambling trade, if and if speculation is still there...

Good term, "technical rebound"ing.... or may be change to "technically rebonding"... cashing up every where... someone need money for pre-election goodies. Big fund such PNB, EPF, LTH etc play-play now...

Mat Cendana, you did talk about precious metal. How about turn some eggs to money market?

Thanks, Kcchongnz, agree with you... more things to consider.. just for as a first basis.. Looking into NTA also +ve... but dispute item need to dig further for unrecorded liabilities or debt...

First view on 3Q earning EPS=11.56, let say this is the final earning then considering PEx10, then suppose possible appropriate share price is RM1.156, fundamentally.

KNM looks promising, fundamentally..