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2017-12-29 20:17 | Report Abuse
Bpt1, even the market maker from IB can do so, they cannot change the intrinsic value of the CW.They hav to pay if its possitve upon maturity.
2017-12-29 20:04 | Report Abuse
Feimah, is more worst if IB do that. Price will surge drasticly.
2017-12-29 19:39 | Report Abuse
Fully aggreed with3362. If the price keep on shooting up, there will b massive payout by the CW issuer to CW holders upon maturity. So they hav to do something like ...what happen today...
2017-12-29 19:27 | Report Abuse
Dear all HYians, World champion HY deserve higher PE. Don be misleaded by those naysayers.!!! Hold tight to go higher. If HY cannot perform better, no hope for KLSE in 2018. TP unchange PE 8,9,10 onwards.
2017-12-29 08:27 | Report Abuse
If china fund come, beh ta han, like how they go shopping, just sapu by not looking to the price. Even bitcoin also from USD4500 to USD19000. Imagine how many millions or billions they needed to move the price up? Now, if their HY entry price @ around RM15, imagine how high HY can goes? How much they need to move the price to RM30, 50, 80? To them, sap sap water nia.
2017-12-28 18:49 | Report Abuse
Can anyone confirm china fund buy in HY?
2017-12-28 11:54 | Report Abuse
Now is just in gear 2 only until feb 18. Lets enjoy the ride. Take ferrari sports car(HY) don take bus (UMWOG, HIBISCUS, ..)to stop at each bus stop . U will reach the destination (rm30, 40, 50,80)far ahead others.
2017-12-28 09:02 | Report Abuse
Anyone can confirm china fund coming in? If yes, sure hoe seh liao.
2017-12-28 08:57 | Report Abuse
The most important strategy in investment is WAIT. U hav to wait until the price is good then u sell. Just ask around those sifu (KYY, OTB, Stockraider...), is this time to sell? I don think so.
2017-12-28 08:28 | Report Abuse
I believe IBs are sweating from now on with their call warrants (CA,CB,CC....CZ) if they don cover the position. Lol.
2017-12-28 08:13 | Report Abuse
If u have chance to drive ferrari sports car, do u want to take local brannd meh? NOW ALL EYES ON HY(world champion) in klse wo.
2017-12-28 08:09 | Report Abuse
Someone need to prove that china fund is coming.
2017-12-28 08:05 | Report Abuse
Now only rm 16.50 is damm cheap lo.sailang la.
2017-12-28 08:03 | Report Abuse
Tp 2018 rm40, 50,60,80. At least 3 fold (300%) of 2017 closing price. If bullish market, hot money from china, sure no problem la. What china fund has is only BIG BIG money.
2017-12-28 06:41 | Report Abuse
By end feb 2018 above rm28.88.
2017-12-27 19:07 | Report Abuse
Let us just see how those IBs to cover their position for call warrants b4 due dates. Very very soon the HY rocket price will surge bcoz of their IB panic buy. ESPECIALLY MAR 2018.
2017-12-26 20:40 | Report Abuse
I just wanna see how the issuers of the call warrants will koyak their own pocket to pay the holders.
2017-12-26 20:31 | Report Abuse
For trader, HY now can only buy high sell higher. After end of FEB 18,no more cheap price. This is bcoz FFM,LFM,IBs and hot monies from China will push the price to another higher level. By that time, HY can compete witn those blue chips like nestle, panamy, dlady, petdgn..etc. I believe only world champion HY can do that. See u @ rm30,50,80..
2017-12-26 14:18 | Report Abuse
Will b good closing for year 2017 rm16.88. Next year tp rm50.00 should b no problem.
2017-12-26 08:27 | Report Abuse
China fund boleh. HY boleh.
2017-12-26 08:25 | Report Abuse
By year end close above rm16. Rm16.88 should b better one. 一路发发。
2017-12-26 08:23 | Report Abuse
Today close above rm15.
2017-12-25 11:27 | Report Abuse
Ultimate target price for HY is 3.70eps×24pe= RM88.8 HUAT HUAT HUAT 发发发!!!
2017-12-25 06:47 | Report Abuse
Good job 635789. High fly HY. May i ask Mr Kyy, would there be any possible that margin account shares being lend to IB (to sell at Call Warrant maturity date ) in order to pull down IB loses ?
2017-12-24 20:02 | Report Abuse
Shame on those out topic.
2017-12-24 12:53 | Report Abuse
HY target price by 31dec 17 rm15.88-16.88, by 31st jan 18 rm20.88, by 28th feb 18 rm26.88-rm28.88. Mar onwards > rm30.88-rm68.88. Those wanna sell cheap just go ahead but don regret after that
2017-12-24 11:13 | Report Abuse
Pls go to another forum if u wanna comment other than hengyuan. Tq
2017-12-23 07:30 | Report Abuse
Mr Kyy, i think u know a lot of IB (investment bankers). Its not so hard to know who is JL if u use your network that someone being force sell due to overbought on some stock.
2017-12-22 06:09 | Report Abuse
So wanna see HY price shoot up? Sap sap water nia.Everyone can withness it starting from end of Feb 2018 onwards.
2017-12-22 06:05 | Report Abuse
2018 tp for HY is at least double of 2017 closing price. If bullish market, it will b triple or more.
2017-12-20 21:44 | Report Abuse
By year end tp 15.88,16.88 or 18.88. Heng ah Ong ah Huat ah.
2017-12-20 08:55 | Report Abuse
Smart Alek, fully agree. Hy-Cd too.
2017-12-20 08:48 | Report Abuse
Feimah, i think so but IB has to buy back with higher premium. So, if the case happen CW holders shoud hold tight till maturity if confirm HY going to surge sky high.
2017-12-20 08:09 | Report Abuse
No way la bro. If q4 good result, where to find cheap price.
2017-12-20 07:44 | Report Abuse
I don think ib will win.
2017-12-20 06:41 | Report Abuse
Feimah, if FFM and LFM come in, those IBs is going to panic buy. Hahaha. Hope that will come true.
2017-12-20 06:22 | Report Abuse
Feimah, remember about union paper case? I hope it will happen to HY. By the time IB panic buy to cover loss but not much shares left in the market, mother share and CW holders will b laughing all the way to receive big cash. I m pretty sure IB is going to lose big in HY cw. Correct me if i m wrong.
2017-12-20 06:03 | Report Abuse
Simple common sence, they (those create panic) wont b in this forum if HY doesnt has opportunity.
2017-12-20 05:48 | Report Abuse
Dear appolloang, is not good to mislead others.
2017-12-20 05:48 | Report Abuse
Aiya, the inventory(stock in hand) is enough to cover 90% debt rm1.3b (rm appreciating). Cash in hand going to b >rm1bil by dec 17. Enough to pay 700m upgrade/change. By the time q4 reveal feb 18, even more cash in hand. More than enough to pay dividend rm1. So how to stop the price surge?
2017-12-19 22:50 | Report Abuse
Very confident to achieve tp 25 by 1q18
2017-12-19 22:33 | Report Abuse
So, i will see the first cw hy-ca due on 22 feb2018. I bet u r wrong bcoz if so there is no need a market maker for the warrant.
2017-12-19 22:18 | Report Abuse
Feimah, may i ask u, means b4 the due date of each cw, there will sell crash in order to pay the inteinsic value to the holder? If not, where to get the cash to pay the cw holders?
2017-12-19 22:13 | Report Abuse
Feimah, fyi, chinaman hold 51%, sifus hold ?%, public ?%. Means remaining ? % hold by IB is to hedge all cw? Means all the IB knows that HY going to fly sky high b4 those sifus?
2017-12-19 21:58 | Report Abuse
So, everyone just hold tight and enjoy coz this is rocket not airbus.
2017-12-19 21:56 | Report Abuse
I suspect those IB will buy in soon to cover/hedge their cw losses. LFM/FFM might b also in the que to buy HY. So, how to get cheaper price? Do u think create panic sell will help them?
2017-12-19 21:47 | Report Abuse
Limited shares will move the price faster like rocket and also prevent those day traders to speculate.
2017-12-19 21:45 | Report Abuse
Never pay attention to sifu when during lecture.
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2017-12-29 20:40 | Report Abuse
If there is no opportunity, why IB, market maker comes in?