IF ICAP had the foresight to allocate max 5% of total funds for trading, it could have been a different story, perhaps ...

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Is Rubberex, Supermax really the only game in town ? Hahaha

To gamblers, stock market is gambling, their hearts lead them to Magnum, Bjtoto.

enigmatic ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ To answer stkstudent,

It depends on your investment timeline & aim of buying stocks. How long do you plan to keep your stocks? Do you buy it for capital appreciation or dividends?

If you look at ICAP's past record, the fastest its share price & NAV doubles is around 3 years. Or if you are like some who bought in 2005 and never sold, 15 years to double the share price & NAV is 15 years.

Even with a 15 year time frame, the return is 6%+ average per year, WITHOUT LOSING any money. How many stocks have escaped unscathed since 2005?

Of course, ICAP's price has not gone up much in the previous 5 years, so the question again is, why did you buy the stock in the first place? One thing for sure, ICAP is not for goreng & quick returns. "icapital.biz Berhad exists for one simple reason: to allow long-term shareholders or more aptly called share owners, to benefit from value investing." Key words: Long-term, value investing.

Recently, I realised that TTB keeping cash & growing the NAV is like: A kungfu master who conserves 40% of his energy but still beats his competitors.
15/04/2020 5:22 PM


@enigmatic past records r really for retired champions to glow over their past achievements. What counts to stakeholders is current results.
Has ICAP NAV increase substantially of late, i did not check

Will be worried if u were in ICAP team, as most fund mgrs will reckon the market is their enemy and focus.

Mr market is to be feared, bcause he is famous for proving players wrong, and so far he is the undisputed Champion, who has always got it right.

The rest of us, can only try to follow his trail n be humble, n hope to get some decent returns.

if topup to prepare for rebound can ?

The fact tht ICAP seem still underinvested now, while many stks in Bursa, has since rebounded 30-80% frm their lows, indicate tht the mgmt is still waiting for the Big One to come . Hopefully, not waiting yo take it chin up again nxt round.

Some who ascribe to ICAP concept of value investing , also believe tht the ICAP investment team, had seen this black swan or double black swan event in case of Msia, long time coming. The puzzling thing is why then was ICAP funds hit by -16-17%, similar to KLSE ‘s -15% ?
Is It due to ICAP stk selection in small cap growth stks, that made it not viable to sell n run ,as the event unfold n need to take it chin up n hope for the best ?

what i most keen to know is, will ICAP bound back stronger than before soon, or is it more of the same for the nxt x yrs ?

has to break 33.5c 1st lo..

i got 10c in my pocket as proof leh..

play dumb ar ? its all in black & white bro. kikiki...

Posted by stkstudent > Mar 20, 2020 7:14 AM | Report Abuse X

stkstudent ok, its a bet...end in 31st May 2020..kikiki
19/03/2020 11:27 PM



KAQ4468 Take 10 cent and keep in your pocket


Kah Kah Kah
19/03/2020 11:24 PM

Mar 19, 2020 11:19 PM | Report Abuse

@KAQ4468 i take a bet with you, cheapo 10 c shark,
if Naim does not touch 10 cents, pls disappear frm I3 forum & dont step into Naim under any name,

i do the same,...kikiki
19/03/2020 11:18 PM

hahaha..sudah lupa ka ? kikiki...

Mar 20, 2020 7:12 AM | Report Abuse

to make it clear , " i do the same,...kikiki ,." .means , (nanti ada dispute pulak, )

1) if Naim touch 10 cents,stkstudent, pls disappear frm I3 forum & dont step into Naim under any name..

2) if Naim does not touch 10 cents, KAQ4468 pls disappear frm I3 forum & dont step into Naim under any name,


all the best to KAQ4468.. see u when Naim is 10 cents , hahahaha.....



stkstudent @KAQ4468 i take a bet with you, cheapo 10 c shark,
if Naim does not touch 10 cents, pls disappear frm I3 forum & dont step into Naim under any name,

i do the same,...kikiki
19/03/2020 11:18 PM

some long-time old school stks with 7% dividend yield like MMC,MALAKOF,YTLPOWR more than 30% frm their lows in mar.19-23 , not worthy of investing for long-term ?

MMC current- 0.61, low-0.465, +31%
MALAKOF current- 0.86, low-0.66 +30%
YTLPOWR current-0.645, low-0.50 +29%

ICAP money still safe in the bank ?

KAQ4468 praying hard for 10c...tik tok, ti tok...bila 31May 2020 magic show ? hehehe

zhen0000 垃圾老大哥看得起你一定下到$0.15的

幸運，不是$ 0.10或我需要做魔術表演消失哈哈哈

All shops closed now, mayb for few mths, ehc business got fundamentals to ‘ invest in’ now ? Thks

If not invest, trade can ar ?

thk goodness, got China to take over as the new taiko of the world..

O&G stks comin back strong, ...

Or big players could take profit early in morning session , then push back up in afternoon, like yesterday, up to them to play .

If like that, better take profit in morning, after 11 am, Huat Arr !!

Posted by monetary > Apr 2, 2020 8:50 PM | Report Abuse

All bankers tat lent money to o&g r trapped! They need u to buy their shares!

could be something much bigger,a coordinated plan by the keepers of world financial stability to reverse the grave threats facing world financial markets, now heading towards destruction & chaos.


the news of China buying oil for state reserves already out few days back, but not much response then.

Now, coupled with news US DT will work to settle Saudi-Russia dispute on oil , suddenly trigger Oil price to jump 10%.

Good thing, Msia produces Oil, can benefit , energy index up 14% today, seems more of all big players efforts, to prop up market, not to sell to retailers. (who got so much money to save the bankers ?)

Once Energy sector is jump started, can be catalyst to boost up confidence in market to spread to other sectors.

We shd be shielded to some degree from US market volatility, as short selling not permitted until end apr.

we really need a boost in Bursa now, with all the covid19 havoc to our economy.

Good to buy some shares now, looks like short-term downside is limited, will have profit take, also, better time to buy then.

Good luck all...

simpan Smpai 6 kupang baru jual...

U cant short, that's why dont care, rather cannot care, it will go up ? kikiki

follow one's own assessment of the risk-reward & act accordingly is best, its different , depends on one's purpose,cash position, timeframe.
Notice EPF & stakeholders r buying n this stk has been sold off for a long time now, record low 48 s on 17.3.20, n no short selling allowed until end apr.

the factory got permit to stay open or not ? got demand not supply how ? hehehe

i think this black swan is far more devastating to the world than anyone could have imagined, all caught unprepared, else ttb would not b sitting tight, he would have unloaded all stks..
Hope, he is not holding tight n has put the cash to use.

if market sentiments bullish nxt week,got chance to break above 60c..

from its recent low of 48s, only recover 25% compare to most stks, up 30-50%,..got chance...

time for laggards to move up, rising tide lift all boats...

small ppl dead does not matter, only the big shareholders grouses counts..

today's star performers are the property (+4.3%) & Construction (+3.9%) sectors. maybe got good news in stimulus package for property & Construction tmrw ?

Biggest surge in the Dow since 1933 probably doesn’t mark the bottom of this bear market

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/24/biggest-surge-in-the-dow-since-1933-probably-doesnt-mark-the-bottom-of-this-bear-market.html

keep plan B handy, in event all the stimulus packages by all nations does not restore calm to markets..its a scary year 2020, not the time to be all in stks...

KAQ4468 disappearing act magic show, must c , kikiki

By 31st May 2020, got new low ? 10 c or magic show ? He he he..

this 10c cheapo can only make noise, no more teeth now,..hehehe

@kaq4468 & 10c cheapo shark gang, no more short selling until April 30 ? how to cari makan now ?
remember woh its 31st may 2020 for your magic disappearing act in I3 ,....hehehe

stay out of stks for the time being until covid19 havoc over in EU & US is preferred for the small investor/trader,..risks of stuck, in losing stks, far outweigh any potential short term gains,..

last friday saw the 1st coordinated show of strength by stakeholders & big players to support Bursa , & shorts paid the price, hehehe

perhaps, foreign funds selling alrdy drying up, maybe monday, give back 1/2 friday gains only..
shorties be careful..

Parkson's William Cheng voices concerns on business prospects
https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/parksons-william-cheng-voices-concerns-business-prospects

gemfinder Evolve mall wil,bankrap
22/03/2020 2:25 PM

@gemfinder compared to Jan, JAKS is now down 50%, still not discounted all the bad news ?
pls. tell us what we dont know, not what everyone aldry "knows"..thks.

We wait patiently to c this cheapo KAQ4468 perform magic, clap, clap, clap !!

10 cents by May 31 st 2020 kah ?
Else we will c magic show by cheapo 10 c shark , do disappear act, kikikiki.,,,,

@KAQ4468 no worries, still got plenty time until 31st may 2020...

kikikiki..