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i think it is all over for hengyuan with such result 60 cent per share earning. just sell on monday and never look back, go buy HBGLOB better. chances go 0.4 is high
no sharks will ever push back to 19 for you to sell ... for me 12.5 maximum, and this also depend how low it sink next week. if sink to 10, then may be will rebound 2 dollars to 12 ... and that the maximum it will go before go to 8-9 ...

There are many in this forum whose interest is to get you to churn the market. These people who write and post regularly survive and live on commissions and fees.

It would be nice if we can identify those who are in the investment industry so that at least we can read their postings with a bit of deeper understanding.

"Never ask you barber if you need a haircut." The latest Berkshire Hathaway annual report is out and Buffett has once again wrote how short term focus the investment players are and how the interests of the advisors are not aligned with those of those who seek their advice.


Be careful. You may just get what you wish for without even knowing that you have been fleeced.

恒源不是亏钱，而是赚钱。这一季的属于少赚，不是亏。更何况目前平均国际页岩油价位在每桶RM64美金左右。是因为部分的税前盈利抽得蛮高，也更多。可能是要大选了。。。要备战，所以鸡政府拼命地追税务。。。我还是觉得油股在未来几年都是飚高。。。

Hengyuan tumbled from $19 to $13, wiping out all the gains from mid-December.

The big fall occurred in the first half of January 2018.

Since then, it has been trading sideways.

Quarterly results will be released soon.

Looks like the market has discounted this result; looking 6 months ahead.

The business of Hengyuan probably peaked in 2017.

It remains a business with volatile earnings that is capital intensive.

Its products compete in the market based on price.<<<<


On Feb 9, it was Cinderella at the Ball. Everyone having a great time.

3ii is the best weeding herbicide...it helps the plant grow healthily..

as he removes those less intelligently ones like him from being invested in Hengyuan and leave only the strongest at fittest to grow..

he is like the dirt fish placed in aquarium to keep it clean..>>>>


So heartening to see your healthy and positive comments.

Rather interesting, many promoters were uncharacteristically upset.

Some snakes have forked tongue.

Trust no one but yourself.<<<<

Depeche Someone from the opposite camp quoted T7 global and Opensys..very brave!!!
T7 Global - PE ratio 133...so high!!!
Latest quarter revenue so high still reported lower profits than previous quarter....he said despite this, he still will buy that counter and invites others to join in..really questionable choice..

Opensys- chap pa lang IT service provider, manufacturer, exporter importer, etc, etc..most impressive result in the latest QR reported EPS >1.00....clap...clap... another very SOUND choice...

Now we are beginning to see what the naysayers are made of..

HY supporters should be proud of ourselves...now we can confirm many of them are sour grapes with poor investment acumen.

Till now, I only still respect their sifu....3iii.
01/03/2018 17:23

HERE WE GO, T7GLOBAL 0.605 VS HY 12.80.
LET'S HV FIRST REVIEW AFTER 3 MONTHS, 1/6/2018. STRAIGHT FIGHT ONE ON ONE, NO NEED INVOLVE OTHER COUNTER.

Someone from the opposite camp quoted T7 global and Opensys..very brave!!!
T7 Global - PE ratio 133...so high!!!
Latest quarter revenue so high still reported lower profits than previous quarter....he said despite this, he still will buy that counter and invites others to join in..really questionable choice..

Opensys- chap pa lang IT service provider, manufacturer, exporter importer, etc, etc..most impressive result in the latest QR reported EPS >1.00....clap...clap... another very SOUND choice...

Now we are beginning to see what the naysayers are made of..

HY supporters should be proud of ourselves...now we can confirm many of them are sour grapes with poor investment acumen.

Till now, I only still respect their sifu....3iii.

Hengyuan

What is its Cash from its operations? RM 1 BILLION LOH..!!

Minus the tax to get its net cash ftom operations. NO TAX BUT EVEN INPUT TAX THE CASHFLOW AT RM 760M IS ALSO VERY SUBSTANTIAL MAH..!!

Minus the capex from this net cash from operations to obtain the FCFF (free cash flow to firm).
U MUST UNDERSTAND THE ONE TIME ...CAPEX OF RM 760M TO UPGRADE HENGYUAN IS GOING TO BE USED FOR NEXT 20 YRS MAH...!! COMPARE TO PETRONAS RM 64 BILLION AND PETRON RM 14 BILLION, HENGYUAN IS HIGHLY COMPETITIVE LOH..!!


To derive its FCF to shareholders:
Minus the net interest payments and payments to minority interest (if any. In HY this is 0) from the FCFF.
WHAT IS THE INTEREST COST TINY LOH ??
NOT EVEN RM 60M PA COMPARE T0 THE FREECASHFLOW LOH...!!

What is Hengyuan's FCF?
THE FREECASHFLOW IS RM 760M PA LOH...!!

Additional notes:

1. Its cash from operations though positive in recent years faces uncertainties (due to nature of its business as guided by the management). 2017 is possibly its best performance year and not sustainable. TAKE NOTE OF THIS IMPORTANT HIGHLIGHTS LOH...!!

"HENGYUAN IS IN THE HIGH VOLUME, PREDICTABLE & STABLE CONSUMER BUSINESS LOH....!! ITS BUSINESS VERY STABLE & PREDICTABLE LIKE NESTLE LOH...!! BUT NESTLE PE 40X BUT HENGYUAN LESS THAN 4X...MEANS VERY VERY BIG INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITY, U SHOULD NEVER MISSED LOH...!!"

HENGYUAN HAS SUPERB EARNINGS FOR CONSECUTIVE 3 YRS LOH...!!
ITS LATEST EARNINGS EPS RM 3.40 EXCEED, THE MOST EXPENSIVE CO IN KLSE NESTLE EPS ONLY RM 2.75 LOH...!!

2. Now that it is profitable, tax will need to be paid, reducing its FCFF and FCF relative to its tax free year (due to losses).
EVEN PUT IN NOTIONAL TAX , HENGYUAN FREECASHFLOW STILL EXCEED RM 760M.

3. Its capex is huge relative to its earning, its CFO, its netCFO, its FCFF and FCF. Earnings maybe high in the income statement but FCFF and FCF are correspondingly much lower than earnings due to high capex.
LETS LOOK AT CAPEX RM 760M V FREECASHFLOW RM 760M (NET OF NOTIONAL TAX }, THE INVESTMENT PAYBACK IS HIGHLY PROFITABLE ONLY 1 YR LOH..!!
NO WONDER THE BANKS ARE EAGER TO LEND LOH..!!

4. Its debt levels are high. Companies with high debts are "riskier". Interest rates have bottomed and should be trending up. 1.5 billion debt at 4% interest should mean about 60m interest incurred yearly. This should reduce its FCF too. In good times, debts maybe manageable and in bad times, it cuts deep into the flesh.
VERY HIGH MEH ?? WITH MORE THAN RM 1 BILLION CASH IN HAND PLUS FREE CASHFLOW ABOUT RM 760M AFTER TAX, THE EXPOSURE OF BORROWING OF RM 1.4 BILLION IS TINY LOH...!!

The share price of Hengyuan will be determined by its FCF generated over the future years. Companies with consistent, growing and high FCF should enjoy a higher intrinsic value compared to those wirh volatile and inconsistent FCF. CORRECTLOH WITH STRONG FREECASHFLOW OF RM 1 BILLION AND AFTER TAX RM 760M, THE FAIR VALUE OF HENGYUAN SHOULD BE RM 22.OO TO RM 42.00 LOH...!!
REMEMBER HENGYUAN PE IS LOW 4X V PETDAG 16X AND NESTLE PE 42X, THERE ARE BIG RERATING UPSIDE HOR HENGYUAN LOH...!!


REMEMBER THE STORY OF SAD ADMIRER OF 3iii AHMOI UNABLE TO AFFORD TO SEND HER SON TO AUSTRALIA TO STUDY BCOS LISTENING TO 3iii SELLING HER HENGYUAN AT RM 3.66 LOH..!!
AHMOI BEST FRIEND AHFAH HANG ON TO HENGYUAN DUMB DUMB, TODAY BASED ON HER PROFIT, IS ABLE TO FINANCE HER SON STUDY IN AUSTRALIA, JUST BASED ON HENGYUAN INVESTMENT ALONE LOH...!!

DO NOT LET 3iii TO DO THIS TO U, LIKE WHAT HAPPEN TO AHMOI LOH...!!
DO NOT LET PONDANS....PONDAN U LOH...!!
Why be so stressed? Rather than be abusive, they should just sell down to the point they can sleep well. Perhaps, greed and fear makes them foolish in their postings. Rather than attacking the facts, when they choose to abuse those who posted contrary to their views, they looked stupid and have lost the moral high ground in this discussion.
OF
JUST REMEMBER LOH....IF U ADJUST FOR TAX THE FREECASHFLOW OF HENGYUAN IS RM 760M OR NORMALISED FREECASHFLOW OF RM 2.5O LOH...!!

CONSIDERING HENGYUAN YIELD ON FREECASHFLOW WILL BE RM 2.50 DIV BY SHARE PRICE RM 15.10 GIVING A YIELD OF 16.5% THIS IS CREDIBLE CONSIDERING;

NESTLE, DLADY AND PETDAG ONLY ACHIEVE FREE CASHFLOW YIELD OF ABOUT 6% PA LOH....!!

HENGYUAN FREECASHFLOW YIELD IS MORE THAN 2.5X STRONGER THAN NESTLE, DLADY AND PETDAG LOH...!!

GOING FWD U COULD EXPECT INCREASING DIV GOING FWD DUE TO ITS STRONG CASHFLOW LOH....!!

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Many naysayers here pretend like they r better than MORGAN STANLEY. BIG FFM like MORGAN STANLEY WILL NOT SIMPLY ADD HY/PETRON into their list la.

DO U THINK ALL THE SMALL KIDS (naysayers) HERE can beat them meh.

All those shutdown la, high capex la, bla bla already being taken into their consideration loh. They r not stupid loh.

The main point is MORGAN STANLEY HAS POSITIVE OUTLOOK IN REFINERY BUSINESS.

TIME WILL TELL, GOOD COMPANY WITH GOOD PROFIT DESERVE GOOD PRICE.

1)HY being the NEW BEST EARNING AWARD holder(RM3.03per share=RM909M)
2)with PE only 4.3 Look at regional refinery avereage PE 10 or MORE .
3)And newly included into MSCI Small Cap/BURSA 70 component index.
4)Prospect of refinery in 2018 onwards is better than 2017 too.
5)Cost saving with WTI crude
6)Most cost effective in Euro4 upgrade.

For those who bought earlier at higher price than now, u all must hav the confident with HY coz HY is still the best bet in BURSA. It will come back to its fair price @ pe8-10 or more.

I think MARCH will b a MUST BUY FOR WORLDCHAMPION HY from BIG FFM b4 their first quarter portfolio report.

Afternoon opening if you see HY Price (Morning close RM 12.14-12.20) (on 15mins Candlesticks) keep inching upafter 14.30-14.45-15.00-15.15pm (3-4 all green candles) towards (MA20) RM12.40 and CROSS......and continuing upwards towards the close...

You must tell yourself:

1. This whole sell-down ex QR is conducted by INSIDERS BROKERS (for China owner on takeover-relisting advisory and daily price chart managements).

2. AT LEAST 3 major IBs (Broker-houses like R C K) as distinct from non-broker issuing house like M), all have REGULARLY issuing strcwarrs, who control & manage mother HY prices as local "EXPERT" AGENTs on behalf this foreigner Chinaman

Refer to crack spread is correct.
But one more thing need to refer is USDMYR, which USD depreciated and caused higher forex loss last quarter.

@feihong911 been studying the FOUR Quarters PROFIT YEAR 2017 of Hengyuan lah
Q 4 RM 185 ml profit half of Q 3

But in Q 1 profit drop from RM 270 ml to RM 85 ml in Q 2

Just goes to show profit go up and down
Hengyuan can bounce back

JUST DONT LISTEN TO HOLLAND SIFU @ NONSENSE
OF CRACK PRICE NONSENSE AND TARGET PRICE OF RM 18-25

HHAHAHAHAHA

Hengyuan will rebound

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To those naysayers,

多行不义, 必自毕。别赚黑心钱啊, 会有报应的。

Totally agree with Nyama. The promoters believed in the company and shared compelling reasons why they think so. And they are not wrong to say that HY is a good company as proven by its performance in 2017. They may be too positive on the TP but you dont have to believe. Nobody force u to buy or sell. At least they have the guts to share what they feel and tell u what they value to company at. And its no shame to be wrong. Some naysayers dare not even tell u what they value the company at with reasons except perhaps 3iii (even though i dont buy his valuation).

Arent you in this forum hoping to win money on this share, regardless if u are a trader or long term investor? So, if that is the case, what is the benefit of u contributing nothing in this forum but only know how to criticize?

The only logical motive you have must be a sinister one. To gain out of others misery?

Many naysayers here pretend like they r better than MORGAN STANLEY. BIG FFM like MORGAN STANLEY WILL NOT SIMPLY ADD HY/PETRON into their list la.

DO U THINK ALL THE SMALL KIDS (naysayers) HERE can beat them meh.

All those shutdown la, high capex la, bla bla already being taken into their consideration loh. They r not stupid loh.

The main point is MORGAN STANLEY HAS POSITIVE OUTLOOK IN REFINERY BUSINESS.

TIME WILL TELL, GOOD COMPANY WITH GOOD PROFIT DESERVE GOOD PRICE.

1)HY being the NEW BEST EARNING AWARD holder(RM3.03per share=RM909M)
2)with PE only 4 !!!Look at regional refinery avereage PE 10 or MORE !!!
3)And newly included into MSCI Small Cap/BURSA 70 component index!!!
4)Prospect of refinery in 2018 onwards is better than 2017 too.
5)Cost saving with WTI crude!!!
6)Most cost effective in Euro4 upgrade.

For those who bought earlier at higher price than now, u all must hav the confident with HY coz HY is still the best bet in BURSA. It will come back to its fair price @ pe8-10 or more.

I think MARCH will b a MUST BUY FOR WORLDCHAMPION HY from BIG FFM b4 their first quarter portfolio report.

Rule no 1: never trust Chinaman stocks. look around...so many Chinaman companies initially does very well but soon they will siphon out the money and leave you an empty shell....the LATEST e.g. being Xingquang...where our superinvestor lòst Millions for nothing.just kena conned in bright day light. Very possible for HYR...too. 2 cts dividend just to pls the public. Soon they may siphon out their billions of profits n leave the shell company to the banks. I don't think it is such coincidence that chinaman stocks always fails in klse. it's pre meditated.

USE COMMON SENSE MAH.
WHY SOMEONE WITH NO INTEREST IN HY WANNA TALK BAD ON " EPS KING " LEH?

ANSWER:
1) THEY WANT TO BUY IN CHEAP BY CREATING BAD SENTIMENT LOH

2) THE MOST POSSIBLE IS THEY WERE PAID FOR LOH. BY CW ISSUER LOH.

NOTE: I M NOT PAID FOR SO I WONT COMMENT EVERY NOW AND THEN.
PLS BE SMART AND CAREFULL FOR NOT BEING MISLEADED BY THOSE NAYSAYER.

CONCLUSION:
HY IS THE BEST BET IN BURSA LOH.

1)KING OF EPS RM3.03
2)LOW IN PE ONLY 4
3)NEW MEMBER OF MSCI SMALL CAP INDEX COMPONENT.
4)NEW MEMBER OF BURSA MIDD CAP INDEX COMPONENT
5)BEST COST EFFECTIVE IN EURO4 UPGRADE
6)NEW WTI CRUDE TO BOOST 2018 EPS

FORESEE TO HAV MORE APPRECIATION IN SHARE PRICE

AGAIN USE SIMPLE COMMON SENSE LOH.

ANYONE / EVERYONE HERE IS/ARE NOT SMARTER THAN MORGAN STANLEY LAH.

ALL TALK THE NONSENSE HERE ONLY LAH.

DON BELIEVE THE NAYSAYERS LOH.

Ayoyo A pretty negative article on the edge financial daily today... Hinted at a muted fy2018 earnings due to risks of planned shutdowns driving down revenue by 51% in that particular quarter, possible inventory losses on lower oil prices and worse is, earnings significantly affected by slow completion of euro 4m refinery
05/03/2018 08:20<<<<<


Recall the promoters pacifying their followers that the shut down will have little impact because Hengyuan would have beefed up the inventories to continue their supplies to the customers during the planned shut down.

Yes, the is probably true to a certain extent but the shut down WILL definitely impact temporarily on the bottom line for that period.

More worrying is if the planned shut down is longer than initially planned. It has already being extended from 2 months to 2 and half months now.

Even more surprising would be the planned upgrading costing more than anticipated. $800 million capex may be a low estimate indeed.

1)KING OF EPS RM3.03
EPS has little meaning on the profitability of a company.
Prove: Find a crap company that makes money, shrink their O/S small enough so it has highest EPS amongst Bursa. That doesn't turn a crap into a great.

2)LOW IN PE ONLY 4
Similar to point 1, low PE has little meaning whether a company is undervalued or overvalued
Prove: There are many low PE companies that remain single PE while many high PE companies remain high over their entire existence

3)NEW MEMBER OF MSCI SMALL CAP INDEX COMPONENT.
No correlation with assessing the profitability of a company. Pure speculation in the fact that fund managers have to buy HY because it becomes part of the index

4)NEW MEMBER OF BURSA MIDD CAP INDEX COMPONENT
No correlation with assessing the profitability of a company. Pure speculation in the fact that fund managers have to buy HY because it becomes part of the index

5)BEST COST EFFECTIVE IN EURO4 UPGRADE
No idea what this is

6)NEW WTI CRUDE TO BOOST 2018 EPS
Highly unpredictable variable

Some investors are looking for stocks with low P/E ratio. Since most share prices often fluctuate,
they believe the shares with low P/E will eventually sell at higher P/E. For example, Hengyuan
which has reported reduced profit. But basing on its latest earning is still selling at single digit P/E
ratio. Low P/E does not mean the price should go higher. Profit growth prospect is still the most
important consideration.

2) From Philip Capital to their investors:-

Dear Investor,

"The Hengyuan share price surged more than 300% on the back of a string of impressive
earnings from improved margin. However, we believe that the current high refining margin is not
sustainable as crude oil prices will normalise. Hengyuan is lucky to be at the right place at the
right time to enjoy a strong profit. We recommend investors to AVOID the stock."

There are many sick sadists here... those who buy HY are buying with their money, not yours...u are laughing at possible people who are currently facing heavy losses or even facing bankruptcy...u guys have ZERO EQ and are just pests...did any HY investors offend u....u all come to HY forum and curse and scorn the investors here as if they killed your family...go get a life and dun be losers...I am still sitting on a pretty though shrunk profits..any rebound will just multiply more profits..haha

老Koon Corned 的call warrants CA,CB,CC 全部已经结算获利了结，母股如弃婴。

本益比PER 现在4+倍很低，但是要提醒的，以前更低2倍上下而已，过去半年就是老koon 炒高股价，corned 那个第一批的CA,CB,CC,等待到期结算获利。

老koon 套利走人，那个家具股Latitude 就是最好的例子，股价飞涨，本益比还是不到8倍，老koon 走人，现在股价如断了线的风箏一直跌。

The plant will have a capacity of 1.15 million tonnes per annum. The investment will ensure Hengyuan Refining is well placed to meet the Euro 4M mogas specifications mandated by the Malaysian regulatory authorities by Oct 1, 2018.

Asian share regained some ground on Tuesday after U.S. President Donald Trump faced growing pressure from political allies to pull back from proposed steel and aluminum tariffs, easing investor worries about an imminent trade war.

Sentiment was also supported by receding risk aversion in Europe with the euro gaining support from the creation of a coalition government in Germany and the impact of Italy's inconclusive election results limited to a mild sell-off in domestic bonds and stocks.

YES as usual General Raider will lead all hengyuan bull army to victory loh.....!!

LEARN FROM THE BEST INVESTORS IN PUDU MARKET, AHFAH WHO MANAGE TO SEND HER SON TO STUDY IN AUATRALIA JUST BY INVESTING HENGYUAN DUMB DUMB LOH.!

We want to support many investors like ahfah, manage to send her son to study in australia by just investing in hengyuan dumb dumb loh...!!
Like warren buffet philosophy, those who invested berkshire hathway dumb dumb now very very rich loh...!!

IT IS OK LOH...TO HAVE NEGATIVE VIEW LOH....!!
BUT MUST COUNTER THEIR POINTS AND FAKE VIEWS LOH...!!
IF NOT IT WILL CAUSE FINANCIAL DAMAGE LOH...!!

RAIDER REMEMBER THAT 3iii STRONGLY BAD MOUTHED HENGYUAN AT RM 3.66, AS A RESULT HIS ADMIRER AHMOI SOLD HENGYUAN AT RM 3.66 LOH...!!
THUS LOST VERY BIG LOH...!!

PEOPLE CAN OPEN HIS BIG MOUTHED, TO BAD MOUTHED ANY STOCKS, BUT WE MUST KNOW WHAT IS RIGHT & WHAT IS WRONGLOH...!!

AHFAH WHO IS AHMOI BEST FRIEND ,DID NOT SELL HENGYUAN AND HANG ON HENGYUAN DUMB DUMB, DESPITE 3iii STRONG BAD MOUTHED, TODAY CAN AFFORD TO SEND HER SON TO AUSTRALIA TO STUDY ALL BCOS OF HENGYUAN INVESTMENT LOH....!!

PLEASE NOTE WE ARE PREVENTING FALSE AND FAKE NEWS FROM NAYSAYERS FROM CAUSING, BIG BIG LOSSES TO LONG TERM INVESTORS FROM SELLING TO PREMATURELY LOH;

REMEMBER THE STORY OF SAD ADMIRER OF 3iii AHMOI UNABLE TO AFFORD TO SEND HER SON TO AUSTRALIA TO STUDY BCOS LISTENING TO 3iii SELLING HER HENGYUAN AT RM 3.66 LOH..!!
AHMOI BEST FRIEND AHFAH HANG ON TO HENGYUAN DUMB DUMB, TODAY BASED ON HER PROFIT, IS ABLE TO FINANCE HER SON STUDY IN AUSTRALIA, JUST BASED ON HENGYUAN INVESTMENT ALONE LOH...!!

DO NOT LET Dragon & 3iii TO DO THIS TO U, LIKE WHAT HAPPEN TO AHMOI LOH...!!
DO NOT LET PONDANS....PONDAN U LOH...!!

TAKE NOTE OF THIS IMPORTANT HIGHLIGHTS LOH...!!

"HENGYUAN IS IN THE HIGH VOLUME, PREDICTABLE & STABLE CONSUMER BUSINESS LOH....!! ITS BUSINESS VERY STABLE & PREDICTABLE LIKE NESTLE LOH...!! BUT NESTLE PE 40X BUT HENGYUAN LESS THAN 4X...MEANS VERY VERY BIG INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITY, U SHOULD NEVER MISSED LOH

U ALL MUST HAVE CONFIDENT ON THIS WORLD CHAMPION HENGYUAN WITH EPS RM 3.40 EXCEEDING EVEN THE MOST EXPENSIVE STOCK IN KLSE NESTLE EPS RM 2.75.
THE GOOD POINT IS HENGYUAN WITH SUCH GREAT QUALITY IS TRADING AT A VERY UNDEMANDING PE 4X COMPARE WITH NESTLE PE 42X.

RAIDER ESTIMATE TP RM 22.00 TO RM 42.00, JUST DUMB DUMB HOLD FOR THIS 2 MONTHS COMING MAH....!!
WHEN BLUECHIPS IS MAKING IS A REALITY, THEN PE 10X TO 15X...IS A REALITY LOH...!!

REMEMBER THE ULTIMATE ADVICE BY WARREN BUFFET ALWAYS INVEST LONGTERM

LESSON FROM WARREN BUFFET;
Charlie and I view the marketable common stocks that Berkshire owns as interests in businesses, not as ticker symbo t” prices of analysts or the opinions of media pundits.
Instead, we simply believe that if the businesses of the investees are successful (as we believe most will be) our investments will be successful as well. Sometimes the payoffs to us will be modest; occasionally the cash register will ring loudly.

The same applies to world champion hengyuan which have a much higher ROE than berkshire hathway mah....!!

The connection of value-building to retained earnings that I’ve just described will be impossible to detect in the short term.
Stocks surge and swoon, seemingly untethered to any year-to-year buildup in their underlying value.
Over time, however, Ben Graham’s oft-quoted maxim proves true: “In the short run, the market is a voting machine; in the long run, however, it becomes a weighing machine.

RAIDER COMMENT; NOTICE PHILIP 66, WARREN BUFFET REFINERY INVESTMENT, ITS PE 22x VERSUS HENGYUAN 4X LOH...!!
HENGYUAN TRULY A WORLD CHAMPION LOH....!!

JUST HANG ON TO YOUR HENGYUAN DUMB DUMB U WILL BE WELL REWARDED..!

“If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs . . .
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting . . .
If you can think – and not make thoughts your aim . . .
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you...
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it.”

T IS PEOPLE LIKE DRAGON & 3III, SIMPLY SAY CUTWINS TO CAUSE AHMOI TO LOSE BIG LOH...!!

RAIDER REMEMBER THAT 3iii STRONGLY BAD MOUTHED HENGYUAN AT RM 3.66, AS A RESULT HIS ADMIRER AHMOI SOLD HENGYUAN AT RM 3.66 LOH...!!
THUS LOST VERY BIG LOH...!!

PEOPLE CAN OPEN HIS BIG MOUTHED, TO BAD MOUTHED ANY STOCKS, BUT WE MUST KNOW WHAT IS RIGHT & WHAT IS WRONGLOH...!!

AHFAH WHO IS AHMOI BEST FRIEND ,DID NOT SELL HENGYUAN AND HANG ON HENGYUAN DUMB DUMB, DESPITE 3iii STRONG BAD MOUTHED, TODAY CAN AFFORD TO SEND HER SON TO AUSTRALIA TO STUDY ALL BCOS OF HENGYUAN INVESTMENT LOH....!!

RAIDER REMEMBER THAT 3iii STRONGLY BAD MOUTHED HENGYUAN AT RM 3.66, AS A RESULT HIS ADMIRER AHMOI SOLD HENGYUAN AT RM 3.66 LOH...!!
THUS LOST VERY BIG LOH...!!

PEOPLE CAN OPEN HIS BIG MOUTHED, TO BAD MOUTHED ANY STOCKS, BUT WE MUST KNOW WHAT IS RIGHT & WHAT IS WRONGLOH...!!

AHFAH WHO IS AHMOI BEST FRIEND ,DID NOT SELL HENGYUAN AND HANG ON HENGYUAN DUMB DUMB, DESPITE 3iii STRONG BAD MOUTHED, TODAY CAN AFFORD TO SEND HER SON TO AUSTRALIA TO STUDY ALL BCOS OF HENGYUAN INVESTMENT LOH....!!

1. HIGH EPS EXCEEDING RM 3.40.
2. STRONG EPS GROWTH EXCEEDING 300% FOR 2017.
3. STRONG CASHFLOW EXCEEDING RM 3.70 PER SHARE.
4. MSCI SMALL CAP & BURSA MIDCAP INDEX COMPONENT STOCK.
5. STRONG BALANCE SHEET WITH CASH IN HAND RM 1.00 BILLION OR RM 3.30 PER SHARE LOH....!!
6. STRONG BANKS SUPPORT WITH LOAN APPROVAL REFINANCING EXCEEDING RM 1.70 BILLION.
7. POTENTIAL DIV COMING SINCE HAVE RM 1.0 BILLION CASH IN HAND AND CASH GENERATION EXCEEDING RM 3.70 PER SHARE.
8. STRONG SHARE ACCUMULATION BY CHINA FUND MANAGERS .
9. VERY VALUABLE REFINING CAPACITY OF 120K BPD WHEN COMPARE TO PETRONAS NEW REFINERY INVESTMENT COST OF RM 64 BILLION FOR 300K BPD AND PETRON NEW REFINERY CAPACITY INVESTMENT COST OF RM 6.4 BILLION FOR ADDITIONAL 60K BPD LOH.....!!
10. INVENTORY GAIN EXCEED RM 100 MILLION.
11. FOREX GAIN EXCEED RM 50 MILLION
12. HENGYUAN SHARE HAS ALMOST COMPLETED CONSOLIDATION AND RIPE FOR A VERY VERY STRONG REBOUND LOH....!!
13. HENGYUAN IS MSIA OPERATIONS WITH STRONG HONEST MSIA MANAGEMENT AND DIRECTORS MAJORITY LOH...!!
14. POTENTIAL IMPAIRMENT WRITE BACK AS THE REFINERY ASSETS ARE PUT BACK TO USE IN 2018 LOH....!!
15. HUGE ROE GAIN EXCEEDING 60% PA FOR HENGYUAN.
16. HENGYUAN IS IN THE HIGH VOLUME, PREDICTABLE & STABLE CONSUMER BUSINESS LOH....!! ITS BUSINESS VERY STABLE & PREDICTABLE LIKE NESTLE LOH...!! BUT NESTLE PE 40X BUT HENGYUAN LESS THAN 4X...MEANS VERY VERY BIG INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITY, U SHOULD NEVER MISSED LOH...!!

RAIDER ESTIMATE TP RM 22.00 TO RM 42.00, JUST DUMB DUMB HOLD FOR THIS 2 MONTHS COMING MAH....!!

WHEN BLUECHIPS IS MAKING IS A REALITY, THEN PE 10X TO 15X...IS A REALITY LOH...!!

TAKE NOTE OF THIS IMPORTANT HIGHLIGHTS LOH...!!

"HENGYUAN IS IN THE HIGH VOLUME, PREDICTABLE & STABLE CONSUMER BUSINESS LOH....!! ITS BUSINESS VERY STABLE & PREDICTABLE LIKE NESTLE LOH...!! BUT NESTLE PE 40X BUT HENGYUAN LESS THAN 4X...MEANS VERY VERY BIG INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITY, U SHOULD NEVER MISSED LOH...!!"

It is going to happen soon loh...!!

Hang tight with ur World Champion Hengyuan loh...!!

WHY CHINA FUND WILL BE VERY AGGRESSIVE COMING ??

1. THE CHINA FUND MANAGERS, JUST CAME BACK FROM LONG CHINESE NEW YEAR LEAVE, EAGER TO START WORK MAH...!!
2. THEY KNEW HENGYUAN Q4 RESULT VERY GOOD, THUS THEY HAVE TO BUY VERY BIG TO AVOID MISSING OUT LOH.
3. HENGYUAN BOSSES DID A GREAT JOB, HAS FUND THE REFINERY UPGRADES WITHOUT USING ITS EXISTING RM 1 BILLION CASH IN HAND, HIGH PROBABILITY OF GOOD DIVIDEND PAYOUT LOH...!!
4. HENGYUAN TRADE AT A LOW UNDEMANDING PE 4X COMPARE TO CHINA PETROLEUM PE 11.7X, PHILLIP 66 PE 22X, PETDAG PE 16X MEANS BIG UPGRADES IN HENGYUAN SHARE VALUATION COMING LOH....!!
5. THE SUPPLIES OF HENGYUAN SHARE HAS DWINDLE FOR PAST FEW DAYS, MEANS GOING FWD, THERE IS LACK OF SUPPLY, SO IN ORDER TO BUILD UP POSITION MUST AGGRESSIVE BUY B4 TOO LATE MAH...!!
6. HENGYUAN IS A WORLD CHAMPION STOCK WITH EPS RM 3.40 FAR EXCEED THE MOST EXPENSIVE STOCK IN KLSE NESTLE WITH EPS RM 2.75, MAKES A COMPELLING STORY TO AGGRESSIVELY BUY LOH...!!
7. HENGYUAN IS A ROLE MODEL COMPANY, FOR CHINA ONE BELT ONE ROAD STORY, IT HAS BEEN LOOKED UP HIGH UPON, WITH ADMIRATIONS BY CHINESE COMMUNIST LEADERS LOH...!!

YES as usual General Raider will lead all hengyuan bull army to victory loh.....!!

LEARN FROM THE BEST INVESTORS IN PUDU MARKET, AHFAH WHO MANAGE TO SEND HER SON TO STUDY IN AUATRALIA JUST BY INVESTING HENGYUAN DUMB DUMB LOH.!

We want to support many investors like ahfah, manage to send her son to study in australia by just investing in hengyuan dumb dumb loh...!!
Like warren buffet philosophy, those who invested berkshire hathway dumb dumb now very very rich loh...!!

IT IS OK LOH...TO HAVE NEGATIVE VIEW LOH....!!
BUT MUST COUNTER THEIR POINTS AND FAKE VIEWS LOH...!!
IF NOT IT WILL CAUSE FINANCIAL DAMAGE LOH...!!

RAIDER REMEMBER THAT 3iii STRONGLY BAD MOUTHED HENGYUAN AT RM 3.66, AS A RESULT HIS ADMIRER AHMOI SOLD HENGYUAN AT RM 3.66 LOH...!!
THUS LOST VERY BIG LOH...!!

PEOPLE CAN OPEN HIS BIG MOUTHED, TO BAD MOUTHED ANY STOCKS, BUT WE MUST KNOW WHAT IS RIGHT & WHAT IS WRONGLOH...!!

AHFAH WHO IS AHMOI BEST FRIEND ,DID NOT SELL HENGYUAN AND HANG ON HENGYUAN DUMB DUMB, DESPITE 3iii STRONG BAD MOUTHED, TODAY CAN AFFORD TO SEND HER SON TO AUSTRALIA TO STUDY ALL BCOS OF HENGYUAN INVESTMENT LOH....!!

PLEASE NOTE WE ARE PREVENTING FALSE AND FAKE NEWS FROM NAYSAYERS FROM CAUSING, BIG BIG LOSSES TO LONG TERM INVESTORS FROM SELLING TO PREMATURELY LOH;

REMEMBER THE STORY OF SAD ADMIRER OF 3iii AHMOI UNABLE TO AFFORD TO SEND HER SON TO AUSTRALIA TO STUDY BCOS LISTENING TO 3iii SELLING HER HENGYUAN AT RM 3.66 LOH..!!
AHMOI BEST FRIEND AHFAH HANG ON TO HENGYUAN DUMB DUMB, TODAY BASED ON HER PROFIT, IS ABLE TO FINANCE HER SON STUDY IN AUSTRALIA, JUST BASED ON HENGYUAN INVESTMENT ALONE LOH...!!

DO NOT LET Dragon & 3iii TO DO THIS TO U, LIKE WHAT HAPPEN TO AHMOI LOH...!!
DO NOT LET PONDANS....PONDAN U LOH...!!

TAKE NOTE OF THIS IMPORTANT HIGHLIGHTS LOH...!!

"HENGYUAN IS IN THE HIGH VOLUME, PREDICTABLE & STABLE CONSUMER BUSINESS LOH....!! ITS BUSINESS VERY STABLE & PREDICTABLE LIKE NESTLE LOH...!! BUT NESTLE PE 40X BUT HENGYUAN LESS THAN 4X...MEANS VERY VERY BIG INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITY, U SHOULD NEVER MISSED LOH

U ALL MUST HAVE CONFIDENT ON THIS WORLD CHAMPION HENGYUAN WITH EPS RM 3.40 EXCEEDING EVEN THE MOST EXPENSIVE STOCK IN KLSE NESTLE EPS RM 2.75.
THE GOOD POINT IS HENGYUAN WITH SUCH GREAT QUALITY IS TRADING AT A VERY UNDEMANDING PE 4X COMPARE WITH NESTLE PE 42X.

RAIDER ESTIMATE TP RM 22.00 TO RM 42.00, JUST DUMB DUMB HOLD FOR THIS 2 MONTHS COMING MAH....!!
WHEN BLUECHIPS IS MAKING IS A REALITY, THEN PE 10X TO 15X...IS A REALITY LOH...!!

REMEMBER THE ULTIMATE ADVICE BY WARREN BUFFET ALWAYS INVEST LONGTERM

LESSON FROM WARREN BUFFET;
Charlie and I view the marketable common stocks that Berkshire owns as interests in businesses, not as ticker symbo t” prices of analysts or the opinions of media pundits.
Instead, we simply believe that if the businesses of the investees are successful (as we believe most will be) our investments will be successful as well. Sometimes the payoffs to us will be modest; occasionally the cash register will ring loudly.

The same applies to world champion hengyuan which have a much higher ROE than berkshire hathway mah....!!

The connection of value-building to retained earnings that I’ve just described will be impossible to detect in the short term.
Stocks surge and swoon, seemingly untethered to any year-to-year buildup in their underlying value.
Over time, however, Ben Graham’s oft-quoted maxim proves true: “In the short run, the market is a voting machine; in the long run, however, it becomes a weighing machine.

RAIDER COMMENT; NOTICE PHILIP 66, WARREN BUFFET REFINERY INVESTMENT, ITS PE 22x VERSUS HENGYUAN 4X LOH...!!
HENGYUAN TRULY A WORLD CHAMPION LOH....!!

JUST HANG ON TO YOUR HENGYUAN DUMB DUMB U WILL BE WELL REWARDED..!

“If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs . . .
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting . . .
If you can think – and not make thoughts your aim . . .
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you...
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it.”

T IS PEOPLE LIKE DRAGON & 3III, SIMPLY SAY CUTWINS TO CAUSE AHMOI TO LOSE BIG LOH...!!

RAIDER REMEMBER THAT 3iii STRONGLY BAD MOUTHED HENGYUAN AT RM 3.66, AS A RESULT HIS ADMIRER AHMOI SOLD HENGYUAN AT RM 3.66 LOH...!!
THUS LOST VERY BIG LOH...!!

PEOPLE CAN OPEN HIS BIG MOUTHED, TO BAD MOUTHED ANY STOCKS, BUT WE MUST KNOW WHAT IS RIGHT & WHAT IS WRONGLOH...!!

AHFAH WHO IS AHMOI BEST FRIEND ,DID NOT SELL HENGYUAN AND HANG ON HENGYUAN DUMB DUMB, DESPITE 3iii STRONG BAD MOUTHED, TODAY CAN AFFORD TO SEND HER SON TO AUSTRALIA TO STUDY ALL BCOS OF HENGYUAN INVESTMENT LOH....!!

RAIDER REMEMBER THAT 3iii STRONGLY BAD MOUTHED HENGYUAN AT RM 3.66, AS A RESULT HIS ADMIRER AHMOI SOLD HENGYUAN AT RM 3.66 LOH...!!
THUS LOST VERY BIG LOH...!!

PEOPLE CAN OPEN HIS BIG MOUTHED, TO BAD MOUTHED ANY STOCKS, BUT WE MUST KNOW WHAT IS RIGHT & WHAT IS WRONGLOH...!!

AHFAH WHO IS AHMOI BEST FRIEND ,DID NOT SELL HENGYUAN AND HANG ON HENGYUAN DUMB DUMB, DESPITE 3iii STRONG BAD MOUTHED, TODAY CAN AFFORD TO SEND HER SON TO AUSTRALIA TO STUDY ALL BCOS OF HENGYUAN INVESTMENT LOH....!!

Why u need to have patience & avoid pondans, pondan u loh ???

General Raider; The reason are as follows the IB is desperately driving down the price as their current called warrants are due for price determination, thats why they want hengyuan price lower loh...!!

Yes the china fund are still collecting, but they are not goreng funds, they are long term value funds.

So a lower hengyuan price, allowed them to collect cheap more loh..!!
So if IB drive down hengyuan, no issue to them, bcos it is an investment opportunity if price is down loh...!!

Given the IB and China funds wants lower hengyuan share price, how come hengyuan is consolidating at Rm 15.00 and not much lower price like the naysayers wants , like rm 9.00 to rm 13.00 leh ??

General Raider ans: The china funds are not only one single funds, it make up of many funds all have the objective of heeding China govt of expanding their investment oversea loh..!!
As the funds are not talking to each other on coordinated manner, like a single fund, thus most of them willing to invest in hengyuan independently at fair price like rm 14.00 to rm 16.00, bcos they are worried once q4 out they will missed out big on hengyuan, if they have low position mah...!!
So even IB press down the share price down, the share price don't really down alot loh, in fact it rebound later bcos china funds are buying loh...!!

General Raider advice u to hang tight, don let pondans, pondan u loh

It is going to happen soon loh...!!

Hang tight with ur World Champion Hengyuan loh...!!

WHY CHINA FUND WILL BE VERY AGGRESSIVE COMING ??

1. THE CHINA FUND MANAGERS, JUST CAME BACK FROM LONG CHINESE NEW YEAR LEAVE, EAGER TO START WORK MAH...!!
2. THEY KNEW HENGYUAN Q4 RESULT VERY GOOD, THUS THEY HAVE TO BUY VERY BIG TO AVOID MISSING OUT LOH.
3. HENGYUAN BOSSES DID A GREAT JOB, HAS FUND THE REFINERY UPGRADES WITHOUT USING ITS EXISTING RM 1 BILLION CASH IN HAND, HIGH PROBABILITY OF GOOD DIVIDEND PAYOUT LOH...!!
4. HENGYUAN TRADE AT A LOW UNDEMANDING PE 4X COMPARE TO CHINA PETROLEUM PE 11.7X, PHILLIP 66 PE 22X, PETDAG PE 16X MEANS BIG UPGRADES IN HENGYUAN SHARE VALUATION COMING LOH....!!
5. THE SUPPLIES OF HENGYUAN SHARE HAS DWINDLE FOR PAST FEW DAYS, MEANS GOING FWD, THERE IS LACK OF SUPPLY, SO IN ORDER TO BUILD UP POSITION MUST AGGRESSIVE BUY B4 TOO LATE MAH...!!
6. HENGYUAN IS A WORLD CHAMPION STOCK WITH EPS RM 3.40 FAR EXCEED THE MOST EXPENSIVE STOCK IN KLSE NESTLE WITH EPS RM 2.75, MAKES A COMPELLING STORY TO AGGRESSIVELY BUY LOH...!!
7. HENGYUAN IS A ROLE MODEL COMPANY, FOR CHINA ONE BELT ONE ROAD STORY, IT HAS BEEN LOOKED UP HIGH UPON, WITH ADMIRATIONS BY CHINESE COMMUNIST LEADERS LOH...!!

1. HIGH EPS EXCEEDING RM 3.40.
2. STRONG EPS GROWTH EXCEEDING 300% FOR 2017.
3. STRONG CASHFLOW EXCEEDING RM 3.70 PER SHARE.
4. MSCI SMALL CAP & BURSA MIDCAP INDEX COMPONENT STOCK.
5. STRONG BALANCE SHEET WITH CASH IN HAND RM 1.00 BILLION OR RM 3.30 PER SHARE LOH....!!
6. STRONG BANKS SUPPORT WITH LOAN APPROVAL REFINANCING EXCEEDING RM 1.70 BILLION.
7. POTENTIAL DIV COMING SINCE HAVE RM 1.0 BILLION CASH IN HAND AND CASH GENERATION EXCEEDING RM 3.70 PER SHARE.
8. STRONG SHARE ACCUMULATION BY CHINA FUND MANAGERS .
9. VERY VALUABLE REFINING CAPACITY OF 120K BPD WHEN COMPARE TO PETRONAS NEW REFINERY INVESTMENT COST OF RM 64 BILLION FOR 300K BPD AND PETRON NEW REFINERY CAPACITY INVESTMENT COST OF RM 6.4 BILLION FOR ADDITIONAL 60K BPD LOH.....!!
10. INVENTORY GAIN EXCEED RM 100 MILLION.
11. FOREX GAIN EXCEED RM 50 MILLION
12. HENGYUAN SHARE HAS ALMOST COMPLETED CONSOLIDATION AND RIPE FOR A VERY VERY STRONG REBOUND LOH....!!
13. HENGYUAN IS MSIA OPERATIONS WITH STRONG HONEST MSIA MANAGEMENT AND DIRECTORS MAJORITY LOH...!!
14. POTENTIAL IMPAIRMENT WRITE BACK AS THE REFINERY ASSETS ARE PUT BACK TO USE IN 2018 LOH....!!
15. HUGE ROE GAIN EXCEEDING 60% PA FOR HENGYUAN.
16. HENGYUAN IS IN THE HIGH VOLUME, PREDICTABLE & STABLE CONSUMER BUSINESS LOH....!! ITS BUSINESS VERY STABLE & PREDICTABLE LIKE NESTLE LOH...!! BUT NESTLE PE 40X BUT HENGYUAN LESS THAN 4X...MEANS VERY VERY BIG INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITY, U SHOULD NEVER MISSED LOH...!!

RAIDER ESTIMATE TP RM 22.00 TO RM 42.00, JUST DUMB DUMB HOLD FOR THIS 2 MONTHS COMING MAH....!!

WHEN BLUECHIPS IS MAKING IS A REALITY, THEN PE 10X TO 15X...IS A REALITY LOH...!!

TAKE NOTE OF THIS IMPORTANT HIGHLIGHTS LOH...!!

"HENGYUAN IS IN THE HIGH VOLUME, PREDICTABLE & STABLE CONSUMER BUSINESS LOH....!! ITS BUSINESS VERY STABLE & PREDICTABLE LIKE NESTLE LOH...!! BUT NESTLE PE 40X BUT HENGYUAN LESS THAN 4X...MEANS VERY VERY BIG INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITY, U SHOULD NEVER MISSED LOH...!!"

WALAO EH DRAGON YOU JUST THROW THE TOWEL LIKE THAT? BO SWEE LAH YOU DRAGON! HOW NOW? HY HOW NOW? WHO IS GOING TO BE RESPOSIBLE??

General dragon...i am still waiting for you to give me your name and bank acc no for your 100k fee. Pls post it here now so I can ask my finance ppl to do the transfer.

You MUST ride the short term volatility of stocks to win BIG in the stock market. After General Raider bought PBB for RM3.20, it tank down further to RM2.30 during financial crisis. If Raider have cut loss and sold during that time, Raider won't be a proud PBB shareholder until now. Have faith and you will be rewarded!

general dragon you are doing a good job. Gua pang sim to leave HY in your hands. Everyone hoot kaw kaw first thing in the morning. under new general dragon leadership, HY will sure turn the tables on the pengkritik. Huat ahhhhhhh!!!

ok ok dragonslayer pls send your name and bank account no. to stockraider@quantumfund.com. We will pay you upfront RM100k to your bank account. It will have remarks as DONATION.

pls promote HY relentlessly in this forum. I am going to retire liao.. General Dragon is your new General from now onwards. Bye bye everyone!

Dragonslayer if you agree to take over, you will have the sole right to use the word GENERAL before your name. Your job scope is to promote HY relenlessly everyday including sunday and public holidays. Salary is commission based. For every head you pull to buy HY we will pay you 5% introduction fee of the amount invested. Every month we will pay you 20% of the amount we win from the suckers. Sounds interesting??

Dhahaha

Hello dragonslayer...people want to elect you as the new General. Do you want the post or not?

WHY CHINA FUND WILL BE VERY AGGRESSIVE COMING ??

1. THE CHINA FUND MANAGERS, JUST CAME BACK FROM LONG CHINESE NEW YEAR LEAVE, EAGER TO START WORK MAH...!!
2. THEY KNEW HENGYUAN Q4 RESULT VERY GOOD, THUS THEY HAVE TO BUY VERY BIG TO AVOID MISSING OUT LOH.
3. HENGYUAN BOSSES DID A GREAT JOB, HAS FUND THE REFINERY UPGRADES WITHOUT USING ITS EXISTING RM 1 BILLION CASH IN HAND, HIGH PROBABILITY OF GOOD DIVIDEND PAYOUT LOH...!!
4. HENGYUAN TRADE AT A LOW UNDEMANDING PE 4X COMPARE TO CHINA PETROLEUM PE 11.7X, PHILLIP 66 PE 22X, PETDAG PE 16X MEANS BIG UPGRADES IN HENGYUAN SHARE VALUATION COMING LOH....!!
5. THE SUPPLIES OF HENGYUAN SHARE HAS DWINDLE FOR PAST FEW DAYS, MEANS GOING FWD, THERE IS LACK OF SUPPLY, SO IN ORDER TO BUILD UP POSITION MUST AGGRESSIVE BUY B4 TOO LATE MAH...!!
6. HENGYUAN IS A WORLD CHAMPION STOCK WITH EPS RM 3.40 FAR EXCEED THE MOST EXPENSIVE STOCK IN KLSE NESTLE WITH EPS RM 2.75, MAKES A COMPELLING STORY TO AGGRESSIVELY BUY LOH...!!
7. HENGYUAN IS A ROLE MODEL COMPANY, FOR CHINA ONE BELT ONE ROAD STORY, IT HAS BEEN LOOKED UP HIGH UPON, WITH ADMIRATIONS BY CHINESE COMMUNIST LEADERS LOH...!!

Pls hold tight hengyuan a money making opportunities loh...!!

It is coming....!!
It is coming loh...!!

LESSON FROM GENERAL RAIDER/ WARREN BUFFET;

GENERAL RAIDER view the marketable common stocks that I owns as interests in businesses, not as ticker symbo t” prices of analysts or the opinions of media pundits.

Instead, we simply believe that if the businesses of the investees are successful (as we believe most will be) our investments be successful as well. Sometimes the payoffs to us will be modest; occasionally the cash register will ring loudly. IN THE CASE OF HENGYUAN IT IS PAYING OUT LOUDLY TO THE DISMAYED OF NAYSAYERS 3iii AND THE PONDANS.

And sometimes I will make expensive mistakes like i sold hengyuan on trading gains to take advantage of KYY but luckily i bought back all. Overall – and over time – we should get decent SUPERB results.

In Hengyuan investors have the wind at their back bcos has undertone of strong eps, strong free cashflow and high crack spread.

As for hengyuan dividend figure, however, far understates the “true” earnings emanating from our stock holdings.
For decades, we have stated in Principle 6 of our “Owner-Related Business Principles” that we expect undistributed earnings of our investees Hengyuan to deliver us at least equivalent earnings by way of subsequent capital gains. This hengyuan did not disappoint us with superb capital gain, to the dismayed & great jealousy of many negative pundits likes of 3iii, neokosan and most naysayers.

Our recognition of capital gains (and losses) will be lumpy,I feel confident, however, that the earnings retained by our investees Hengyuan will over time, and with our investees viewed as a long term group, translate into commensurate capital gains for hengyuan longterm investors.

The connection of value-building to retained earnings that I’ve just described will be impossible to detect in the short term.
Stocks surge and swoon, seemingly untethered to any year-to-year buildup in their underlying value.
Over time, however, Ben Graham’s oft-quoted maxim proves true: “In the short run, the market is a voting machine; in the long run, however, it becomes a weighing machine.

U ALL MUST HAVE CONFIDENT ON THIS WORLD CHAMPION HENGYUAN WITH EPS RM 3.40 EXCEEDING EVEN THE MOST EXPENSIVE STOCK IN KLSE NESTLE EPS RM 2.75.
THE GOOD POINT IS HENGYUAN WITH SUCH GREAT QUALITY IS TRADING AT A VERY UNDEMANDING PE 4X COMPARE WITH NESTLE PE 42X.

JUST HANG ON TO YOUR HENGYUAN DUMB DUMB U WILL BE WELL REWARDED..!

Hi everyone! General Raider is back!!!

First of all i would like to apologize to all investors who have lost money in this counter. What went through Hengyuan is beyond my control and imagination. I totally did not expect this. I myself have lost hundreds of thousands by this stock decline.

But do not worry! I have reliable source that HY is going to do stock split and bonus issue very soon. With this piece of good news, I expect HY to go back to its glory days of RM19.20. To take advantage of this I have pawned my house to the bank to get additional RM10 million credit facilities. I have received confirmation from the bank for this credit facility and will use this RM10 million to sailang HY tomorrow.

Once again, sorry for the downfall. We will be back!!

IT IS OK LOH...TO HAVE NEGATIVE VIEW LOH....!!
BUT MUST COUNTER THEIR POINTS AND FAKE VIEWS LOH...!!
IF NOT IT WILL CAUSE FINANCIAL DAMAGE LOH...!!

RAIDER REMEMBER THAT 3iii STRONGLY BAD MOUTHED HENGYUAN AT RM 3.66, AS A RESULT HIS ADMIRER AHMOI SOLD HENGYUAN AT RM 3.66 LOH...!!
THUS LOST VERY BIG LOH...!!

PEOPLE CAN OPEN HIS BIG MOUTHED, TO BAD MOUTHED ANY STOCKS, BUT WE MUST KNOW WHAT IS RIGHT & WHAT IS WRONGLOH...!!

AHFAH WHO IS AHMOI BEST FRIEND ,DID NOT SELL HENGYUAN AND HANG ON HENGYUAN DUMB DUMB, DESPITE 3iii STRONG BAD MOUTHED, TODAY CAN AFFORD TO SEND HER SON TO AUSTRALIA TO STUDY ALL BCOS OF HENGYUAN INVESTMENT LOH....!!

General dragonslayer...would you mind taking over this thread as General?