Intrinsic value

Why is it mispriced?

dunspace
Publish date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017, 02:10 PM
Remember, always formulate your own opinion.

'Investing is an adventure to the uncharted world of the financial future'

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Why is it mispriced?

 The biggest question we should ask ourselves before we invest in a company is why is it mispriced? Why would the investing community provide you with the opportunity for a possible large gain? Firstly, if you believe in an efficient market, you can stop reading here as everything I say here will not make any sense to you at all. I personally believe that the Malaysia equity market is highly inefficient as there is a lack of exploitation of public information.

To quote Mr. Howard Marks: “To be a superior investor, you have to think differently than others. If all you do is embody the consensus, you’ll act the same. If you act the same, you’ll perform the same”

Therefore, Mr. Howard Marks has introduced us to the idea of second-level thinking. Second-level thinking is having the perspective on why is the company mispriced in the first place, having an understanding of what the first-level thinking is. What’s the first-level thinking of INSAS that has caused it to be mispriced?

First-level thinking:

Here I assume everyone that buys/sells/hold INSAS has a clear understanding of its intrinsic value. If you are not very clear about the intrinsic value, please read my article on it to ensure that you are at least partially informed. Thus, the first-level thinking already incorporates an assumption that you understand certain parts of INSAS intrinsic value.

a) Dividend Payout

INSAS is a company that pays out 1% of dividend annually. Many investors in Malaysia places a huge emphasis on dividend as a crucial factor for a worthwhile investment. This is evident as we screen through most of the listed companies in Malaysia. The reason why the dividend is so important is that this shows that the wealth of the company is distributed to its shareholders and if the dividend is consistent, it shows an ability to generate enough cash to sustain its business while rewarding its shareholders. Besides that, investors will feel safer that there is an actual inflow of money to them that they can utilize. A low/nil dividend payout is thought of as a greedy policy made by the management. Since wealth is not distributed to the common shareholders, we should shun away from companies like INSAS as the management is too greedy.

 

b) I might else well buy Inari

I believe the majority of investor and non-investor of Insas understand Insas currently owns 20% of Inari. Therefore, it comes to mind that if you are buying INSAS because of the value of Inari, you might else well just buy Inari. Looking at the movement of share price, if I have brought Inari, it would have given me a large capital gain. Therefore, it is pointless to buy Insas.

 

 

 

c) Troubled company – Share price

High book value companies are usually troubled company. If Insas has such a high book value, why don’t the share price reflect it? There must be 'catch' to it.

 

d) Unstable earnings

Past data has shown that earnings are unstable.

 

Second-level thinking

 

a) Do not pay dividend

The main point of giving dividend is when the company has nothing better to reinvest the capital in. Since Insas is an investment holding company, it is their job to find investment opportunities that would give better returns. Capital appreciation in a long run can be higher if capital invested provides more value. Besides, Insas has the best position to give out lucrative dividend as they have net cash on hand whereas another financial companies do not even have net cash but are giving out 4-5% of dividend. However, I personally prefer Insas to not pay out any dividends because of the business nature of Insas. My point of view is that INSAS can reinvest their capital better than ME.  For example, if INSAS decided to give 5% of dividend, it will be up to us to reinvest the 5% of dividend to generate more future returns for ourselves. I as a part owner will prefer INSAS to reinvest that ‘5%’ and in the future, generate a higher capital appreciation.

 

(Inspired reply to those seeking dividend by reading nearly all of Berkshire letters): 

The nature of Insas business is investing. Therefore, we believe that we can reinvest our earnings at a higher rate of growth which leads to a higher future capital appreciation. Dividend is given if the business believes that the earnings are in such an excess that there are not any better opportunities for reinvestment. As an investment company, we strive to be in a position where we can reinvest our capital at a higher rate to grow the company rather than giving dividend. Insas has a great amount of excess liquid assets now which positioned us to act first whenever there is a good opportunity. Shareholders shouldn’t be too overly concerned regarding whether is dividend given, they should instead focus on the growing value of the company. The share price of the market on the short term is just like a voting machine. However, in a long run it is a weighing machine. Sooner or later the price of the company will gravitate to its value.

 

 

b) In depth study of the balance sheet for companies with P/B lower than 1

- Most companies found below P/B has a high book value only because of PPE and inventories. PPE, inventories and receivables are treated as not valuable assets for gauging book value. However, Insas has a high book value due to Investments, Associate Companies, Cash and Fixed Deposits.

-Most companies below P/B of 1 are unable to payback their short term plus long term borrowing by liquid assets. Insas has more than enough liquid assets to cover all borrowings

-Conservative book value of Insas is higher than market capitalization.

 

c) Equity method of accounting

-Understanding of equity method of accounting.

- Owns 20% of Inari. Inari has a market cap of 5 BILLION now.  1 BILLION worth of shares deducted by 300 MILLION recorded in the balance sheet under Associates Companies equals to 700 MILLION of unrecorded. (Edit: written months ago, lazy to update the figures)

-Other associates.

-The key here is not we do not need to worry too much about paying too high of a premium for Inari. We are safeguarded against a high P/E ratio while enjoying the gains of the growing profits in Inari.

d) Earnings

Take an average of at least 5 years to make an accurate judgement. Insas earnings are highly dependent on market conditions. Therefore, those who invest should for themselves know how the market fluctuates.  That’s why I found it great when the earnings dipped and the share plunge by like 30%+.

Quoting Warren Buffett: “Look at market fluctuations as your friend rather than your enemy; profit from folly rather than participate in it”

 

*** In my opinion, what matters most when investing in INSAS is your personal behavior and holding period.

 

Quoting Charlie Munger: “The big money is not in the buying and the selling…but in the waiting”.

 

 

 

That's all from me for now, I do not plan to write any more about Insas. I wish you well in your investing journey and do share with me your opinion in the comments too.

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TheContrarian

Inari book value in Insas balance sheet is RM220 million, not RM300 million. There are other Associated Companies such as Ho Hup and several other unlisted companies amounting to RM80 million.

2017-11-25 15:25

lazycat

thong owned 45% insas ,insas is his piggybank , salary , bonus , directors fees, he eat kenyang2 , unless you have the capital to buy up the whole company and sell off it assets , if not, you hard to profit from it

2017-11-25 16:49

dunspace

@TheContrarian, I just minus all to make a point. Forgot to state it in there.

2017-11-25 17:26

dunspace

@lazycat, what do u based your assumption on?

2017-11-25 17:27

MoneyFace88

Dont waste your time and money on this stock. On 2 Dec 2013 Gkent price was 1.11 , Insas was 0.945 . 4 years later Gkent is more than $4.50 before split. Insas is still stuck at below $1 . You can call it 2nd level or 3rd level thinking, to me this is totally useless stock to park your money. You wait lah till the cow come home and wait for your durian to drop. I will rather put money elsewhere than to invest in this useless company that pays 1% dividend.

Dividend that goes into my pocket is called profit or real money that I can spend, dividend that does back to the company that only the management or Thong can enjoy is not my money.

I wish you all the best to think this is a good company to invest

2017-11-25 17:49

cheated

Insas money goes to Thong pocket not ours?

2017-11-25 17:51

MoneyFace88

Go take a look at Uchitec , close to 200 million cash in the bank, zero debt , net profit margin of staggering 55% , share price run up like a bull, dividend of 3.94% that I can use to bring family for holiday or buy christmas present. This is the type of company that I want to put my money than to think 2nd level or 3rd level breaking my head to analyse if Insas is good buy.

2017-11-25 17:56

lazycat

thong used to work as stock broker at standard chartered singapore , he very cunning and know how to manipulate stock price to his own benefit, he basically corner with his large holding 45%, anyone who attempt to buy off his piggybank insas probably gonna have to pay a hefty price

2017-11-25 17:59

spiderman49

Posted by MoneyFace88 > Nov 25, 2017 05:49 PM | Report Abuse

Dont waste your time and money on this stock. On 2 Dec 2013 Gkent price was 1.11 , Insas was 0.945 . 4 years later Gkent is more than $4.50 before split. Insas is still stuck at below $1 .

then how many shares on 2 dec 2013 when insas 0.945 now traded less than 80 70 60 , is not fair to simply compare like this :)

2017-11-25 18:08

cheoky

Disagree on capital efficiency theory by insas instead of investor himself. Money on a good investor hand i opine is definitely better than in insas hand. If i all in insas at this price compare to i diversify into several good stocks with ok skill of the investor perhaps with just a few percentage in insas. Barring any catalyst in insas such as investment selloff on its balance sheet which have no foreknowledge by investor, i guess later portfolio will perform better after 5 years.

2017-11-25 20:14

Ricky Yeo

@ dunspace, what is your estimate on long term ROC given that you think Insas can earn a higher return than you if they pay dividend?

2017-11-25 20:21

cheoky

Ya uchitec yi ji bang. Uchitec bought cheap you hold donkey years, u simply say forgot n awesome and now u are no asking should i average down, u are asking should i continue hold or sell but that damn dividend gave u dilemma. That sort of dilemma you wish you can have it all the time... Hahaha

2017-11-25 20:34

dunspace

@ ricky yeo, expected returns of 10% annually as a whole.

2017-11-25 21:59

dunspace

@lazycat and @moneyface. Thank you for your opinion, gives me more perspective of why is Insas priced as it is.

2017-11-25 22:00

dunspace

@cheoky, I guess Insas do not suit you then. In my view, if you can safely get a ROC of 15%+ annually from your own investment skills, go ahead and do not bother about Insas.

2017-11-25 22:05

TheContrarian

10%? 15%? I made over 60% on Insas within a year.

2017-11-25 22:56

dunspace

@TheContrarian, I am speaking in terms of Insas as the company and not their share price. I am expecting their investment to annually generate 10% through let's say a 10 year period, basing this on my research and personal judgement. So for example, you could make 60% on Insas but it does not mean the ROC of Insas on this year was 60%, it is just because the intrinsic value was heavily misjudged by the investing community. I am putting the 10% out there as a benchmark for those questioning the reinvestment of the capital (cause they want some capital to be distributed to them).

2017-11-26 01:49

TheContrarian

Ok, didn't follow the comments properly. I made 60% because I bought at rock bottom price and sold off near peak. I feel Insas can generate 20 sen EPS annually at the moment. Insas is grooming up two other technology subsidiaries and might list them in the future.

2017-11-26 08:45

dunspace

Question, what TA are u using to indicate peak? I always have a problem of holding against the herd because of the intrinsic value that I believe in.

2017-11-26 15:56

hstha

Singapore shares touched a two-and-half-year closing high on Friday, as industrial output in October climbed for a fifteenth straight month

2017-11-26 19:02

GreatWarrants

Good one, traders look at warrants mispricing too as it is an issue for retail investors.
Just for sharing.
https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/greatwarrants/139408.jsp

2017-11-27 01:11

TheContrarian

dunspace, I don't follow TA. I'm a contrarian. I buy when people ignore, I sell when everyone is excited.

2017-11-27 13:34

dunspace

@TheContrarian , I am also a contrarian. The problem is at 1.05, I did not sell because I believe it has to be at least 2+ before I sell but you mentioned that u sold and u manage to get a re-entry lower, how would you know the market is going to overreact like this?

2017-11-28 22:31

TheContrarian

I don't really know, just my instinct tells me to sell. First batch sold at 1.06, then price moved up further until 1.14. Second batch at 1.10.

2017-11-29 11:34

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