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Publish date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016, 08:35 PM
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In the last four days, I have shared three articles on bonus issues, share split and free warrants in i3investors; whether these corporate exercise add value to a company, or maximizing the return of shareholders. The links are appended below:

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/kcchongnz/106438.jsp

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/kcchongnz/106452.jsp

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/kcchongnz/106561.jsp

Here again I would like to conclude what I have shared in the words of this gentleman below:

[Posted by stockraider > Oct 16, 2016 10:37 AM | Report Abuse

Actually u need to view the freebies in 3 perspective;
1. academic; thereotical No different like most university professors said.
2. Practical View bonus as positive....if your counter is undervalue, having bonus will bring up and sustain a higher value in your stock, even short and long run.
Bcos this bonus call for rerate the valuation of your stocks.
3. Practical View bonus as negative...if your counter is overvalue, having bonus, give u is chance and opportunity to sell....as usually short term it will bring up the value, thus u should take the opportunity to run fast. Bcos long run, it will come down bcos of overvalue
Raider see bonus are use as a publicity campaign tools use by companies, u need to make use of it intelligently in order to profit from it
]

 

I would like to introduce you guys this gentleman who has been following me blindly for the last few years. I am delighted to have this faithful follower in i3investor. He knows me well too, it seems.

Posted by donfollowblindly > Jul 7, 2016 03:42 PM | Report Abuse http://cdn1.i3investor.com/cm/icon/trans16.gif

One person I know is KC Chong. Do you have other people in mind? Perhaps should analyse whether his recommended counters has good future like what he analysed base on past.

Posted by donfollowblindly > Oct 15, 2016 10:16 PM | Report Abuse

Agree. Condemning is his motive. KC also a lot of Holland counters. Pls refer to my past posts. If he is really good he must be very rich and no need to beg people "joining his course for a fee" in his numerous blogs.

His first comment above was criticising those fundamental value practitioners that their way of investing is of no use. He has very good virtue in investing, that he claims that he don (doesn’t) follow blindly. I suggest all of you have the same thinking too, that you should never follow blindly to avoid investing in the Amsterdam Stock Exchange (AMX). He claimed that I have been investing heavily in AMX.

I have invited him to list down those stocks in AMX which I have invested many times before, but he never did that. Here came a question from him regarding my posts on corporate exercises.

[Posted by donfollowblindly > Oct 17, 2016 10:45 PM | Report Abuse http://cdn1.i3investor.com/cm/icon/trans16.gif

How about KC own stocks? Never give any bonus, free warrants?]

So I will take this opportunity to list down all the stocks I have shared with forumers in i3investor. I would like to thank the administration of i3investor for giving me this opportunity to dwell here since at least 5 years ago. This is like my second home.

In this 5 years, I have made a lot of comments about stocks in Bursa. It is only about three years ago that I have set up my blog within i3investor. So far I have written 241 articles with close to 3 million page views and 7402 comments for my articles. Here I will summarize those stocks which I have shared before, mostly with detail analysis and many with comprehensive reports as shown in Table 1 in the Appendix.

The focus of this article here is to provide answer to the comment above; were there any corporate exercises for those stocks I have written. What he actually meant is there was none.

 

Stocks written and published by kcchongnz

Those readers here who have followed me (not blindly) would have known the core principles, methodologies and strategies I used for stock selection as summarized below:

  1. Investing in a stock should be viewed as investing in a part business.
  2. Focus on return on capitals
  3. Have estimates of the value of a company, and hence the intrinsic value of its stock using a variety of methods and compare with its price
  4. Buy at a wide margin of safety
  5. Cash flows, and especially free cash flows is king
  6. Buy good companies with high return on invested capital at cheap price as measured by high earnings yield (Ebit/Enterprise value) of the Magic Formula.
  7. Focus on the downside and let the upside takes care of itself. Invert, always invert.
  8. Be a second-level thinker. If something is easy to compute and understand, it is extremely unlikely that the market will misinterpret it. Therefore, such information will not, by itself, provide evidence of mispricing.

A total of 30 stocks were found in the blog of i3investor analysed and written by meas shown in this link.

klse.i3investor.com/blogs/kcchongnz/

Table 1 in the Appendix summarized the return of the 30 stocks in the form of a portfolio.

 

Return of the stocks and portfolio

The portfolio of stocks published from 23rd January 2013 until end of 2015 returned an average of 135% in an average of about two and a half years up to date on 18th October 2016. There are 27 winners and 3 losers, or 90% success. The broad market is about flat during the same period.

There is one significant loser in Coastal Contracts which has lost 53.2% in less than 2 years, a big loss indeed. This would definite make our friend below happy as he has been harping about it numerous times.

Posted by donfollowblindly > Jun 21, 2016 10:55 PM | Report Abuse http://cdn1.i3investor.com/cm/icon/trans16.gif

Why no mention how Coastal Contract perform? Recommended at RM 3.27 today only RM 1.52 or loss of 53.5%.

For those who likes to follow me blindly and invested in a big way in Coastal would have lost a bundle, but that is the only big one. The other two losers are just minor at 11.1% for Tong Her and 7.2% for Pantech.

The big winners are really big with Lii Hen at 698%, Datasonic at 552%, Prestariang at 401%, SKP Resources at 387%, Latitude at 207%, Jobstreet at 300%, Pintaras at 198% and Magni at 151%. 8 out of 30 stocks, or 27% of the stocks are multi-baggers.

Investing following the core principles, methodologies and strategies of the super fundamental investors for the above portfolio has shown that it has yielded superb return, and with very low risk.  

How many stocks can you find in my portfolio listed in the AMS? How about this comment?

[Posted by donfollowblindly > Oct 17, 2016 10:45 PM | Report Abuse http://cdn1.i3investor.com/cm/icon/trans16.gif

How about KC own stocks? Never give any bonus, free warrants?]

 

Corporate exercises

When I selected those shares using those strategies above, I have to say I have zero information if there would be any bonus issues and free warrants to be given. I have no privilege in those information, and I didn’t really care about if there would be any.

The outcome is, almost half of those 30 stocks above carried out some form of corporate exercises as listed in Table 2 in the appendix.

The average return of those 14 stocks which carried out corporate exercises is a whopping 206%. There were seven multi-baggers. As the stocks were chosen using the fundamental value investing discussed above, values were unlocked with the corporate exercises.

In fact, lucky investors who had capitalized the corporate exercises would have made much more if they had sold off some of the stocks at their peaks after the corporate exercises. Datasonic gained 802% at its peak at its adjusted price of RM2.08 on 24th March 2014, Lii Hen 783% at RM3.53 on 12th October 2015, Prestariang 608% at RM3.15 on 4th January 2016 and Pintaras 290% at RM4.60 on 1st September 2014. However, I was not the lucky one.

SKP Resources and Latitude, with a gain of 387% and 297% respectively, did not require any corporate exercise to become a multi-bagger.

I know someone would harp on this again,

Posted by donfollowblindly > Sep 24, 2015 10:43 PM | Report Abuse http://cdn1.i3investor.com/cm/icon/trans16.gif

BIMB-W & MRCB-W are some of his 2014 stock picks which still lose money until today.

In the two posts on the warrants above, I wanted to share what are the important things to look for when investing in company warrants, and how to value warrants, and how to use them as financial risk management tool. I encourage you guys to read my articles on warrants using those two warrants as example. I didn’t even discuss the business of the companies like I always do, instead just the share price movement of the underlying shares.

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/kcchongnz/49210.jsp

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/kcchongnz/58419.jsp

I see no problem if you were interested to punt a little bit on those warrants for fun by placing a very small bet in them if you wish, but not putting so much money in them until you lose your pants. I did punt a little for fun too and lost some money, but not that much.

Conclusions

Corporate exercise does do good for good companies in the short as well as long term as shown in those stocks I have invested. In fact, if you are a savvy investor and know how to read the balance sheet, you can see clearly if a company is able to give out bonus issues.

If you have read enough and know about event studies and understand the anomalies of over and under reaction of investors in stock market, you may capitalize those corporate exercises and make good money.

Well, you can now just follow what this gentleman says below. Not many good things are free.

Posted by donfollowblindly > Jun 23, 2016 05:09 AM | Report Abuse http://cdn1.i3investor.com/cm/icon/trans16.gif

Common sentence in KC blogs. If KC really can make much money he must be very rich. Why still need our fee?
If you are interested to learn about this value investing for a small fee, please contact me at
ckc14invest@gmail.com

 

K C Chong at ckc14training@gmail.com

 

Appendix

Table 1: Summary of stocks

 

Table 2: Stocks with corporate exercises

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Discussions
6 people like this. Showing 19 of 19 comments

soojinhou

Haha love the sarcasm

2016-10-18 20:40

yktay1

your thong guan dying

2016-10-18 20:43

ronnietan

My view of blogs, sarcasm and attacks. Read what you want, or don't. Take what you want from it or don't.
Bloggers are not Gods of Prosperity, and offer only stocks that double. Some will be duds. They're human.
Do your own homework and make your own decisions.

2016-10-18 21:06

donfollowblindly

Agree. Bought at RM 4.24, today only 3.94 losing 30 sen in less than 1 month. That's why I said he never highlighted those he lose money.
http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/kcchongnz/104956.jsp

Posted by yktay1 > Oct 18, 2016 08:43 PM | Report Abuse
your thong guan dying

2016-10-18 21:11

valuelurker

Oh come on give the old man chong a break even god takes a siesta on a sunday

2016-10-18 21:11

Intelligent Investor

Don't follow blindly. Enrol the course and gain the knowledge to empower yourself to make your investment decision.

2016-10-18 22:55

KLCI King

This KC must be always monitoring all forums to make sure he can reply back (or talk back) in his article when someone is bad mouth him

2016-10-18 23:04

kchia

Tguan will come. Year End or next year

2016-10-18 23:07

Bizfuneng

Posted by donfollowblindly > Oct 18, 2016 09:11 PM | Report Abuse

Agree. Bought at RM 4.24, today only 3.94 losing 30 sen in less than 1 month. That's why I said he never highlighted those he lose money.
http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/kcchongnz/104956.jsp

Posted by yktay1 > Oct 18, 2016 08:43 PM | Report Abuse
your thong guan dying

Now I understand why he keep bad mouthing sifu KC. Haha.....really losing money on this investment? Must be very worrying as price drops 30 sen. So do ur own homework to determine ur own value for the share. This take care of ur problem from blindly following sifu KC number.

Come on, pls be fair in ur comment on others.

2016-10-19 01:33

yktay1

Being fair means accepting negative comments too, no?

2016-10-19 09:08

Bizfuneng

Absolutely.

2016-10-19 09:20

nokenzo

Sifu KC chong taught us to look at P/B, magic formula and FCF before you buy a stock. So, Thong Guan, at the time of KC publication, qualified for the criteria or not? So, be patient.

2016-10-19 09:30

yktay1

To be fair, I am flaming just for fun. I have a lot to thank KC Chong for. I started dabbling into the stock market in 2012-2013 and his articles taught me immensely. I really do owe him a lot and he made a ton of good calls back then. Just hope he would focus on making calls once again and stop bothering about the haters.

2016-10-19 09:46

nokenzo

KC is the most generous teacher. He does not bother about monetary return, the fee he charges is just a pittance compare to the knowledge he imparts on us. I salute him.

2016-10-19 10:53

Why_

If generous why must charge fee? i3 is free forum.

Posted by nokenzo > Oct 19, 2016 10:53 AM | Report Abuse
KC is the most generous teacher. He does not bother about monetary return, the fee he charges is just a pittance compare to the knowledge he imparts on us. I salute him.

2016-10-19 10:54

Bizfuneng

osted by Why_ > Oct 19, 2016 10:54 AM | Report Abuse

If generous why must charge fee? i3 is free forum.

Hello Why.....1st - hv u seen Sifu KC training material b4? Hv u? One of his student told me the training matl itself worth much more than the amt of money he paid. The matl compilations and the exhibits to demonstrate lessons one cudn't find in textbooks particularly on shares trading in Bursa. This is a personal tuition on line. Likewise ur children getting free education in gov school. The same teachers providing education to ur children charge u for a fee when they providing tuition outside the school. Why r u willing to pay? Same reason KC charging a nominal fees. If it is free, for obvious reason most ppl will drop off after a month or so....I can guarantee u.

2nd - providing training to student willing to pay to acquire financial education and SIfu KC giving free article on financial knowledge to the public via i3 is two separate things/events. Pls dun confuse urself.

2016-10-19 11:18

kcchongnz

Posted by KLCI King > Oct 18, 2016 11:04 PM | Report Abuse
This KC must be always monitoring all forums to make sure he can reply back (or talk back) in his article when someone is bad mouth him


Why would someone wants to bad mouth somebody who shares with you knowledge and experience in a forum of investing?

Why would I care if someone wants to bad mouth me, for what? And I have nothing else to do?

Mr. King, although I am making use of this person who follows me blindly, I am actually making use of his name to share with you what are corporate exercises, how to avoid this trap, or to take the opportunity of these corporate exercises.

I do read postings in i3investors, some of the writers have great contributions here, I am looking for opportunities in stocks shared by them. I have no interest to watch and see if anyone badmouth me or not. It doesn't create value for me.

2016-10-19 15:36

king36

kcchongnz - I salute you.
Don't be border by petty criticism.
I love your articles and have learned from them.
I am lucky to have you and many generous hearts on this forum to share their valuable thoughts.
Once again Thank You All Big, Big, Big.

2016-10-20 10:11

stormspike

Why all the complications about these corporate actions?
Just invest in value generating companies.

Share split = increase liquidity (High time for BAT, NESTLE, DLADY to be splitted)
Share consolidate = decrease liquidity (High time for all the penny shares to be consolidated)
Bonus issue = Can't pay me by special dividend, bonus issue is fine too. They are fully paid up bonus shares that are injected into the circulation. EPS and DPS drops. Because the cake needs to be shared with the bonus issues that comes into circulation
Share buyback = Reduce number of share in circulation. Hence everyone have a bigger slice of the cake. Improves EPS, DPS. It is yummy. But hey, you don't know what to do with my money and instead spending the money on reducing the number of shares in circulation? I know what I can do with those money, I will invest them in other shares that can give me better return.

No extra values created through all these corporate actions. So, stop dreaming. Just move on and concentrate on investing in value generating companies.

2016-10-20 14:13

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