Posted by Pristine68 > Apr 25, 2016 10:44 AM | Report Abuse

I think time to buy hsi-c17 or c19 for day trade is now.

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Refer to my notes 5 : HSI Cash (HK50) 30mins Chart --10.30am candle...i think already set the lower point 21333, looks like in preparation of a "lower and lower" sliding down toward 21535-21235 by 3 to 4pm , i will wait...
C15 "die" 4-5pm today

ADUIT Kor. please feel free to comment & correct on my HSI trading notes ...so we can make better $$$$ next 10 days together!!

HSI : (C17 vs C19 )

1. The morning's gapdown n u-shaped now (below 21420) is negative!!! Personally a more bullish betting scenario for us in C17 & C19 is the gap-up one...

2. "Time value of moneys" very clearly displayed in C17 vs C19 price behaviour .... i expect C17 fair(safe) buy price to be 0.22 -0.25 n C19 0.16-0.18....if we dont see it today we shud by tomorrow..

3.the 0.07-0.10 still rules this morning...i bot 0.24 n sold minutes later 0.275... cos of the expiry date

4. if any swing-down back to my "safe" range again today ,i will be "ON" in the game again...

5. (Refer 30min investing.com HK50 chart)....the 10.30 am candle heading towards 21320 is bearish intraday to me...portening a sliding down towards closing the gap of 21200 by afternoon 3pm...i shall be IN then...beware of C17's position..i am totally out now....

Noman : My notes for you...has been playing HSI-C17 & 19 last mth with happy results... come n join me on the HSI-C19 next, look at your HSI charts...reply if u read this :

#1 Dow
shud be down next 8 days (-620) starting today 21apr2016 (-155) from 18166 to 18011, next day (friday) will be worse (-295) and next monday another (-140), despite the premarket announcement of a good jobless claim number....
this weak dow shud dampen KLCI mood over the next 3 trading days
21/04/2016 22:41

#2 HSI (postKL5pm) has been similarly weakened to a low 21410 before a weak rebound to 21490/21500 now....the immediate effect on tomorrow HSI cash and futures can not be good....so we shud expect another 200 points losses next 2-3 days as the Dow above...giving us the bargaining oppurtunity to buy the HSI-Cs at KLSE...for the next up=waves next week...
22/04/2016 00:02

#3 US ETFs

FAZ ($37+ to $40?) NEXT BOTTOM $30+ JULY-AUG
TZA ($39= same bottom price bought last Dec , HND formation, rebound capped$44,further downside ,$36 july...yummy.
UVXY weak ,ignore,
VXX ($16.11) weak rebound, $13 AUGUST YUM YUM.

A MINI CRASH SHUOLD HIT THE DOW MID AUGUST!!
22/04/2016 01:00

#4 OIL (CFD) $44-43.9....$40+ by mon 25042016....BUY!!! $51 early jun2016
22/04/2016 01:24

OIL (CFD) $44-43.9....$40+ by mon 25042016....BUY!!! $51 early jun2016

US ETFs

FAZ ($37+ to $40?) NEXT BOTTOM $30+ JULY-AUG
TZA ($39= same bottom price bought last Dec , HND formation, rebound capped$44,further downside ,$36 july...yummy.
UVXY weak ,ignore,
VXX ($16.11) weak rebound, 413 AUGUST YUM YUM.

A MINI CRASH SHUOLD HIT THE DOW MID AUGUST!!
22/04/2016 01:00

HSI (postKL) has been similarly weakened to a low 21410 before a weak rebound to 21490/21500 now....the immediate effect on tomorrow HSI cash and futures can not be good....so we shud expect another 200 points losses next 2-3 days as the Dow above...giving us the bargaining oppurtunity to buy the HSI-Cs at KLSE...for the next up=waves next week...

Dow
should be down next 8 days (-620) starting today 21apr2016 (-155) from 18166 to 18011, next day (friday) will be worse (-295) and next monday another (-140), despite the premarket announcement of a good jobless claim number....
this weak dow shud dampen KLCI mood over the next 3 trading days

jake81 ur W2 will become W1, hehe......
21/04/2016 15:41

so i need a new W2 to fill the vacancy....where to find hah?? Vietnam? SKorea?

W2 (C19) is near its TRIGGER point (Strike 22800 vs 21650 HK40 this morning) so it should be gearing up to outperform IF HSI & Futures both charging towards the next gap 21857-21810 created aprilfoolday2016.....

What's life after C17?

I have 2 wives since late feb-march2016.....after i made up my mind China & HK goin to have this GIANT bull starting with an uptrend until april2016 in a "zig-zag" treacherous climb-up and ending with an EXPLOSIVE april (or may or june).....but locally this market strength is not share equally by ChinaA50.FBMKLCI ,only HSI....

So the 1st wife (C17) has been performing out of my wildest expectation , being more mature than my 2nd wife(C19). So W1 will be retiring next tue, and i hope W2 will take over W1 role to be the outperformer to keep me in the same blissful state when the EXPLOSION comes...

Anyone has any suggestion for W1 replacement?

Apr 8, 2016 04:42 PM | Report Abuse

Duit,

Thanks for the deleted post n sharing that caused me togo into the soon to expired C17(strike 21000) in the morning low, as compared to the C19(June stike 22800) which has 2-3mths to go.....the strategy works!!!! from 0.13 to 0.19 when the futures jumped last hr.. tomorrow morning if it retrace i will do it again!...Bro,dont disappear from us !!! when you r near my seaside, call me i will shout you the freshest n sweetest toddy u ever find ...


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Der DUIT DUIT DUIT....where are you?....i was calling you to jointly bet on this bull since apr08,,,, come make $$$$ together on this DRAGON Rally(China--->>HK...>HSI...Cs) are you in or not? I miss you!!!

Write a comment..AhBing, yes ,if the explosion FAIL TO MATERIALISE THIS APRIL MTH.....it definately will come late may to june!!!!

Pristine68 Yes, Bilis bilis, I noticed that.

HSI is in slightly overbought territory now, don't chase high for C17, it may pull back tomorrow.

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IF & there is pull back (mostl likely fri=tomorrow), i think they will do a 21420 -21350.....i will need to gulp down some leopard gallbladders again and buy...
Cos we are nearing & so close to my "EXPLOSIVE APRIL HSI GIANT BULLRUN"

Bilis Bilis Posted by Bilis Bilis > Apr 19, 2016 12:48 PM | Report Abuse X

Words of caution on 1.Macquarie 2.C17:

1. Macquarie

Hang Seng warrants: traders complain
R SivanithyThe Business TimesTuesday, May 05, 2015
- See more at: http://business.asiaone.com/news/hang-seng-warrants-traders-complain#sthash.fHZNAk2Q.dpuf

"...........In complaints dated Nov 12, 2014, Dec 22, 2014 and March 8, 2015, the traders alleged that the warrants often did not move in accordance with the underlying index and the theoretical pricing model. They listed dozens of instances, illustrating situations where call warrants fell instead of rising when the HSI rose, and where put warrants also fell when the HSI dropped. - See more at: http://business.asiaone.com/news/hang-seng-warrants-traders-complain#sthash.fHZNAk2Q.dpuf....";

"..............The complaints alleged that MCS's pricing was "erratic" and "unfair". Between Dec 22, 2014 and March 8, 2015, the complainants claimed to have recorded 66 instances of "erratic price behaviour", including alleged odd delays in MCS's automated price quoting system which proved detrimental to the complainants' trading positions. - See more at: http://business.asiaone.com/news/hang-seng-warrants-traders-complain#sthash.fHZNAk2Q.dpuf..........";

2. C17 : Expiry date April28 Last trading day on April25 !!!!

Nobody know how C17 would be closed on/prior to apr25....only the macquarie themselves...more imptly whether the SingaporeanMacquarie "erratic & unfair" saga has been passed on to n learned by their Malaysian Macquarie operation...until the KL operators come out n openly declare they never behave as the Spore' traders written complaints to SSE & MAS....buyers BEWARE!!!!

Why? the last i calculated, its only worth 0.16-0.20 at the then underlyig HSI...Worse. it might behave as the Spore complaint above during these ending days , ie "......call warrants fell instead of rising when the HSI rose, and where put warrants also fell when the HSI dropped...." to 0.00 buy 0.00 sell!!!!
21/04/2016 13:19

Bilis Bilis Posted by Bilis Bilis > Apr 19, 2016 11:21 AM | Report Abuse X

Prestine is right, HSI has been rising from Feb12 18000+ to now 21350 and thanks to luck(ssss) i have been playing since then, plucking all the low hanging fruits by not chasing BUT BUY WHEN THE C17 & C19 does its 7 & 3 cents pullback intra or inter days....

This old post TPs have all been achieved last 3 days (21534) & this morning (21499) :
2. ".......we shud be now on a sustained strong upleg, after clearing the initial hurdles of 20350-20650 in zig zag fashion (from 29375-20420-20650) it shud be a straight clear path to 21350---21450-----21550----? (your count).. "
30/03/2016 15:50

I "believe" next 5 to 10 days the momentum shall carry the HSI thru 21550--21600--21700.....
21/04/2016 13:16

Posted by Bilis Bilis > Apr 19, 2016 12:48 PM | Report Abuse X

Words of caution on 1.Macquarie 2.C17:

1. Macquarie

Hang Seng warrants: traders complain
R SivanithyThe Business TimesTuesday, May 05, 2015
- See more at: http://business.asiaone.com/news/hang-seng-warrants-traders-complain#sthash.fHZNAk2Q.dpuf

"...........In complaints dated Nov 12, 2014, Dec 22, 2014 and March 8, 2015, the traders alleged that the warrants often did not move in accordance with the underlying index and the theoretical pricing model. They listed dozens of instances, illustrating situations where call warrants fell instead of rising when the HSI rose, and where put warrants also fell when the HSI dropped. - See more at: http://business.asiaone.com/news/hang-seng-warrants-traders-complain#sthash.fHZNAk2Q.dpuf...."

"..............The complaints alleged that MCS's pricing was "erratic" and "unfair". Between Dec 22, 2014 and March 8, 2015, the complainants claimed to have recorded 66 instances of "erratic price behaviour", including alleged odd delays in MCS's automated price quoting system which proved detrimental to the complainants' trading positions. - See more at: http://business.asiaone.com/news/hang-seng-warrants-traders-complain#sthash.fHZNAk2Q.dpuf.........."

2. C17 : Expiry date April28 Last trading day on April25 !!!!

Nobody know how C17 would be closed on/prior to apr25....only the macquarie themselves...more imptly whether the SingaporeanMacquarie "erratic & unfair" saga has been passed on to n learned by their Malaysian Macquarie operation...until the KL operators come out n openly declare they never behave as the Spore' traders written complaints to SSE & MAS....buyers BEWARE!!!!

Why? the last i calculated, its only worth 0.16-0.20 at the then underlyig HSI...Worse. it might behave as the Spore complaint above during these ending days , ie "......call warrants fell instead of rising when the HSI rose, and where put warrants also fell when the HSI dropped...." to 0.00 buy 0.00 sell!!!!

Posted by Bilis Bilis > Apr 19, 2016 11:21 AM | Report Abuse X

Prestine is right, HSI has been rising from Feb12 18000+ to now 21350 and thanks to luck(ssss) i have been playing since then, plucking all the low hanging fruits by not chasing BUT BUY WHEN THE C17 & C19 does its 7 & 3 cents pullback intra or inter days....

This old post TPs have all been achieved last 3 days (21534) & this morning (21499) :
2. ".......we shud be now on a sustained strong upleg, after clearing the initial hurdles of 20350-20650 in zig zag fashion (from 29375-20420-20650) it shud be a straight clear path to 21350---21450-----21550----? (your count).. "
30/03/2016 15:50

I "believe" next 5 to 10 days the momentum shall carry the HSI thru 21550--21600--21700.....

Posted by Pristine68 > Apr 21, 2016 10:30 AM | Report Abuse

Bilis bilis, congrat on your gains, this is always the right strategy, got profit take first.

Posted by Pristine68 > Apr 21, 2016 10:07 AM | Report Abuse

The HSI Bull is not relenting, may see 21700 today if european markets open in encouraging green.

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Pris,

Did you notice this 21580 now (HK40) is the closing back of the gap 21485-21576 created on yesterday 20apr morning slump....it MAY be a very powerfull sign if it can breakout next 2 days.....

HSI-C : remember when & IF price slump 7 to 10 cents

Posted by Bilis Bilis > Apr 20, 2016 03:54 PM | Report Abuse X

i will sell tomorrow morning

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Highest sold @ 0.38-0.39 ,a 10cents difference overnight,what a difference if you trade quantity....

Congrats to all who held over!!!!

Posted by jake81 > Apr 21, 2016 09:53 AM | Report Abuse

bilis, shanghai and dji almost green, not holding c17 longer?

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I know ....but C17 is nearing expiring dates, i am selling those held over yesterday @ 0.26

Posted by Bilis Bilis > Apr 20, 2016 04:10 PM | Report Abuse X

IF .....HSI (HK40) close near 21341-5, my computation for tomorrow be :

open 21352 H 21615 L21320 C21530

Jump 270 to 190 points!!!

21480 now, i shall start selling

those can hold...go look at PERWAJA...my favourite

IF .....HSI (HK40) close near 21341-5, my computation for tomorrow be :

open 21352 H 21615 L21320 C21530

Jump 270 to 190 points!!!

C17...we have to guess~~~

Posted by Bilis Bilis > Apr 20, 2016 03:52 PM | Report Abuse X

HSI shud aims for the 21225-21345


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next 2 days will be good if futures close near 21345 today....

i will sell tomorrow morning

C17 resistance 0.30-0.32

HSI shud aims for the 21225-21345

HSI recovery on the way....lowest i got is 0.26...

7 to 10cts to go!!!

20Apr Wed 0.35 - 0.375 - 0.385 (To sell if exceed 0.385-0.39-0.40-? , SELL!!!)
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CAUTION!!! 4 trading days to EXPIRY on 25Apr

Sold all on opening,like previously , 0.265-0,27, more than 10 cents difference , I AM (not sure abt others) willing to gamble,willing to loose, LOUHU JIA LOUHU!!!!! I bought 0.265-0.27...........

Bing Feng Tan should i keep c19 overnight?bilisbilis?
19/04/2016 15:58

ABing, HSI-C17 :

my own trading plan/outlook over next 2 day is like this

20Apr Wed 0.35 - 0.375 - 0.385 (To sell if exceed 0.385-0.39-0.40-? , SELL!!!)
dip to 0.35 recover to 0.38

21Apr Thur Open 0.36 to 0.42 (SELL ALL)

22Apr Fri IF price hold above 0.37-0.38-0.39 thru Fri to next Mon continue to trade the last 2 days, or STAY CLEAR TO AVOID expiry on mon 25

HSI-C17 is doing well,jumping from 0.31 to 0.37 now, much much better than the C19 (longer but safer),

i applied my own trading rule,on a rising trend SELL daily high & BUY low bottom , on a price range of 7-10 cents , it still works for today

morning high 0.39 -day's low 0.305= difference of 8 cents

i expect SUCH TREND will persist to friday....

Words of caution on 1.Macquarie 2.C17:

1. Macquarie

Hang Seng warrants: traders complain
R SivanithyThe Business TimesTuesday, May 05, 2015
- See more at: http://business.asiaone.com/news/hang-seng-warrants-traders-complain#sthash.fHZNAk2Q.dpuf

"...........In complaints dated Nov 12, 2014, Dec 22, 2014 and March 8, 2015, the traders alleged that the warrants often did not move in accordance with the underlying index and the theoretical pricing model. They listed dozens of instances, illustrating situations where call warrants fell instead of rising when the HSI rose, and where put warrants also fell when the HSI dropped. - See more at: http://business.asiaone.com/news/hang-seng-warrants-traders-complain#sthash.fHZNAk2Q.dpuf...."

"..............The complaints alleged that MCS's pricing was "erratic" and "unfair". Between Dec 22, 2014 and March 8, 2015, the complainants claimed to have recorded 66 instances of "erratic price behaviour", including alleged odd delays in MCS's automated price quoting system which proved detrimental to the complainants' trading positions. - See more at: http://business.asiaone.com/news/hang-seng-warrants-traders-complain#sthash.fHZNAk2Q.dpuf.........."

2. C17 : Expiry date April28 Last trading day on April25 !!!!

Nobody know how C17 would be closed on/prior to apr25....only the macquarie themselves...more imptly whether the SingaporeanMacquarie "erratic & unfair" saga has been passed on to n learned by their Malaysian Macquarie operation...until the KL operators come out n openly declare they never behave as the Spore' traders written complaints to SSE & MAS....buyers BEWARE!!!!

Why, the last i calculated, its only worth 0.16-0.20 at the then underlyig HSI...Worse. it might behave as the Spore complaint above during these ending days , ie "......call warrants fell instead of rising when the HSI rose, and where put warrants also fell when the HSI dropped...." to 0.00 buy 0.00 sell!!!!

Prestine is right, HSI has been rising from Feb12 18000+ to now 21350 and thanks to luck(ssss) i have been playing since then, plucking all the low hanging fruits by not chasing BUT BUY WHEN THE C17 & C19 does its 7 & 3 cents pullback intra or inter days....

This old post TPs have all been achieved last 3 days (21534) & this morning (21499) :
2. ".......we shud be now on a sustained strong upleg, after clearing the initial hurdles of 20350-20650 in zig zag fashion (from 29375-20420-20650) it shud be a straight clear path to 21350---21450-----21550----? (your count).. "
30/03/2016 15:50

I "believe" next 5 to 10 days the momentum shall carry the HSI thru 21550--21600--21700.....

Aiyoyo...Ceng Ceng Ceng Ceng...Ceng Ceng Round 3



latukkong nampak merah merah sudah cukup lama...

minyak turun dia harga pun sama

gua kaki judi nampak 10+2, hati manyak suka

kasi habis bungkus, nanti dia boleh berbunga

Chart look beautiful for another good push up......anyone with insider news to share?

noman my old fren:

long time not here

and long time no hear,

just got in for the trading

and what is the near future awaiting?

HEROLAI left 30 mins... come on, suma!!
14/04/2016 16:27

latukkong cakap

hari ini misti tutup lendah bikin chart lawar.

lawar lawar chart macam dara
tunggu besok hari jumaat tentu tak salah

aiyoyo knm angpow besar 0.515 habis

Bilis Bilis Ceng Ceng Ceng....Ceng Ceng......

Manyak darah merah merah....
latukkong sudah mali !!
petang ini tunggu cari sikit makan!!
14/04/2016 13:44

Ceng Ceng Ceng Ceng..... Ceng Ceng.....Kali #2

latukkong dia suka warna merah

merah merah banyak darah

darah manyak tentu dara

dara tu tak suka budak marah

budak marah tentu kalah

p/s anakcucu aiyoyo mana pugi? knm besok angpow satu besar2

Ceng Ceng Ceng....Ceng Ceng......

Manyak darah merah merah....
latukkong sudah mali !!
petang ini tunggu cari sikit makan!!

SS1967 Bilis, hang seng 21206 now, how far it can go?
13/04/2016 15:52

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Apr 1, 2016 02:31 AM | Report Abuse

HSI : i am hoping for an explosive run (instead of a CRASH) in april!!!

And we r now still EARLY on the 13th day of the month..... and it's the 1st day of explosion!!

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Posted by Bilis Bilis > Mar 29, 2016 06:33 PM
1. "......Tomorrow morning may open gap up +120 to 20375 or better still +350 @20500. This is normal. Abnormal is the gradual climb upwards... "

2. ".......we shud be now on a sustained strong upleg, after clearing the initial hurdles of 20350-20650 in zig zag fashion (from 29375-20420-20650) it shud be a straight clear path to 21350---21450-----21550----? (your count).. "
30/03/2016 15:50

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But playing C17 and C19 is a DIFFERENT ballgame from tracking HSI cash & futures, i read some where Spore remisiers and traders 's written complaint to Spore Stock Exchange on the wrongful pricings by Makuali....

C17 soon to expiring ,above 21000, in the monies!!!!

C19,expiring somewhere june....will be as excitibg as C17 in May -june...

eg : everytime makuali pull back 7cent to 10cts, buy and dont chase...i bought all their push back to 0.13-0.155 last 3 days for T+3 contra,after i have eaten some leopard gall-bladders....

Bing Feng Tan bilisbilis san,my friend mentioned to me says it would reach 60 cent in may, will del after u reply me thanks
13/04/2016 14:31

YES. But ppl will say we r crazy.... but it is in the chart, and its a 2nd round play from may thru july!!!!

Did u play the HSI-C17!!! Explosive run and its a vindication!!!

Mar 30, 2016 12:25 PM | Report Abuse

AhBing

"....graph dont really got direction...."

Vovocom's graph got direction. The direction : is the formation of tight range 0.275-0.27 for 4 weeks now (clearer in weekly chart), if next (on the chosen) week it close 0.28,then it's ready to jump 0.37 or even 0.40(????)
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AhBing,

I hope u still hold tight to your ol' Vivocom, it's faithfully sticking to the above outlook; and watch for the greater "shake-up and shake-down" STARTING TOMORROW as it make its attempt to breakout of the HEAVY resistance 0.32-0.35...

My guess is next wed/thur it shud be ready to wack thru 0.37 next wed/thu (open gap up style) to reach its TP around 0.42 very quickly. by then it shud be ranking top 3 active volume......

Duit,

Thanks for the deleted post n sharing that caused me togo into the soon to expired C17(strike 21000) in the morning low, as compared to the C19(June stike 22800) which has 2-3mths to go.....the strategy works!!!! from 0.13 to 0.19 when the futures jumped last hr.. tomorrow morning if it retrace i will do it again!...Bro,dont disappear from us !!! when you r near my seaside, call me i will shout you the freshest n sweetest toddy u ever find ...

Watch tomorrow whether it cross 1.42--1.43 or pull back... with double or triple volume (3x86k), ...

Posted by Bilis Bilis > Apr 4, 2016 06:17 PM | Report Abuse

"............So any morning pullback into 1720-22 (or even 1719-8) is natural and to be expected,,,, and shud be reversed to the higher 1724-1726 ... .."

given time....

twobits KLCI 4-4-2016
abc wave 4 correction likely ended at 1706 last friday. Current last wave 5 up probably will test 1740-1750 region.

Bilis Bilis Bilis Bilis Mar 31, 2016 04:43 PM | Report Abuse
I am seeing KLCI going into minor run up next 4 days from 1713 today, 1720, 1720-22, 1725-30, 1731-1744.....

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2bits : hahahaha,at least in one index/market (klci) our outlook is in -sync!!

HSI,Shanghai : if tomorrow HSI tue/wed gap (leap) up 20600-20650 from 20495, and continue charging highr into 20700,20800.20900,........ you can start your counts on the wave5 and ignore your lower figers "...if 20k can't hold 19813 then 19586 will test... Due to vertical up last month... 100% retrace to 18854 is possible....."

Bilis Bilis Mar 31, 2016 04:43 PM | Report Abuse
I am seeing KLCI going into minor run up next 4 days from 1713 today, 1720, 1720-22, 1725-30, 1731-1744.....

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The above reading is correct except for today's target 1722 being overpaced by the near closing 1725 (running into tomorrow's portion...maybe making up for last friday's loss time.)

So any morning pullback into 1720-22 (or even 1719-8) is natural and to be expected,,,, and shud be reversed to the higher 1724-1726 ...

Expect pace to be bigger from now (>10 points moves) next 2-3 days into the 1730-1732, 1733-1744....

I was so bored i went C4,C22,C24...i dont expect CIMB to be as aggressive as Makuali in running their Cs , perhaps 50% daily ...

I dont expect Hs to work until the above targets is reached...

Bilis Bilis Mar 31, 2016 04:43 PM | Report Abuse
I am seeing KLCI going into minor run up next 4 days from 1713 today, 1720, 1720-22, 1725-30, 1731-1744.....

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The above reading is correct except for today's target 1722 being overpaced by the near closing 1725 (running into tomorrow's portion...maybe making up for last friday's loss time.)

So any morning pullback into 1720-22 (or even 1719-8) is natural and to be expected,,,, and shud be reversed to the higher 1724-1726 ...

Expect pace to be bigger from now (>10 points moves) next 2-3 days into the 1730-1732, 1733-1744....

I was so bored i went C4,C22,C24...i dont expect CIMB to be as aggressive as Makuali in running their Cs , perhaps 50% daily ...

I dont expect Hs to work until the above targets is reached...