Dear Squidoo....your metaphor regarding retail outlet success possibility was hilarious! Sometimes, in my humble perspective, it's better to understand the philosophy of meritable success...then, you won't need to chop 'kuku'!! Hahaha!

9) Lastly, like i have said before in apr 2014, i m going to watch the oil palm grow (while this land turn from prime to even more prime over time)

(10) I belief in fellow investor Dragonsix means business when he discouraged speculators and said "a sleeping dragon" will "not just wake up suddenly".... * gasp gasp....haven't been typing so much for such a long time...fingers crammed! Lols!

(7) I think the board is brilliant by holding on to the primest piece of township land in this area (with a nice access built for them)

(8) I think that there is nothing irregular here but, there are impatient minority investors provoking others within their self vested selfish capacity, though unsuccessfully..

(5) i think the road is the road SAB is supposed to build on the same 20 acres if/when it develops the land in the first place (i think)

(6) I do too think that the board have successfully attracted & build goodwill with names like IJM, ECO WORLD, gamuda land & Tropicana and built good will into this surrounding neighbourhood (that is further enhancement) with a wisely made decision.

3) You seem to be hoping that they have "given" or "donated" the 20 acres land away so that you can pounce onto the board for wrong-doing. If this is your outlook or bad intention towards the board, let me suggest to u that there are many good counters out there for u to buy into which board decision will not make u angry. No need to be a minority and be so provoked and angry. I like happy fellow investors like squidoo. Not angry ones. Angry investors without substantial reasons are 'Bad' investors especially on issues regarding to our investments onto properly managed companies.

(4) 650 acres at 1,000,000 is 650,000,000. 630 acres at 1,300,000 is 819,000,000 with a well built road by IJM as access. That is a tangible 169 million value enhancement

Dear Albukhary, based on your previous statement, I've deduced that :-

(1) "rent" or "given" lah. If "rent", the opportunity cost is only the old oil palm trees' harvest on the said area. I think only rent lah. I don't think that this board is that stupid

(2) If the management says that the land is still owned by the co, why would we not believe them? I in my own opinion, believes them. Who and what is provoking u to be so sceptical?

Dear squidoo, pocket money?!! What pocket money??? I have full intention to intend my future bentley to bear the number plate "S4B"! That is over & above my kid's uni fees abroad! Haha!

If that is so, i personally think that they are being very responsible and they are protecting the speculative minorities...and wow! It's already 2 plus AM...gonna hit the sack! Good night my fellow investors!

Are u so sure that the BOD did not hold the view that the current economic & political climate is not favourable to property development and is not willing to take that risk now.

Dear Albukhary, come to think of it, value of potential land bank does not necessarily translate to per unit share price mah...Many property companies trade at a large discount on the NTA, no?

Hi Albukhary.... you seems insistent on things being done your way. You comments like as though you are trying to undermine SAB. You seems to want to run SAB and not let the SAB BOD run the Co. Correct me if I'm wrong...

Bro Albukhary, Horay to u! I gonna go break my FD! Hahaha!

These are super strong major shareholders that u r dealing with. Maybe your intent is so that we both have plenty of time to collect more & more SAB shares at low prices. If that is the case, your tactic is damn cun!

Why on one hand try to get or force informations out of directors. And on the other hand, make insinuations and threats. The more u do press them, the more angry the directors & major shareholders get. Then the lower the price...(elementary la my dear Watson)

The company has just came out of a long drawn sholder dispute. The residual directors is surely of the reputable & governance able type. if u want to ask info at agm, ask nicely lah...

I feel a great potential of growth in SAB but i really do not think that it is about property development...

A medical doctor...? I'm most likely to be right that SAB is not about property development and all these discussion about JV, GDV etc is heading towards the wrong direction.

A medical doctor coming on board of SAB's management to head it as MD....hmmmm..

I do not agree with your comment my friend...

Dear QQ12, how can we compare a 20 acres land that is probably a high density development land in a developed area with a 640 acres unconverted agricultural/estate gross area land?

I am only here to share my honest views. I am here for friendly exchanges. I am not here for fire brand arguements. Relax brader.....

Why are u bringing malaysian styled democratic politics into this socially friendly chit chat platform?

Dear Cipta, why is there so much anger in you?...

I personally don't think there will be shortchange to majority and minority shareholders....Retired federal court judge Datuk Seri Sulong Matjeraie now sits on the board, further adding to the strength of this board....got judge wei...don't play play...hahaha!

Dear Cipta, from my observation, i wish to repeat that i m confident that this board will not shortchange the shareholders...

Dragonsix means to say that the SAB company (like a phoenix) will rise fr the ashes. Correct ah, dragonsix?

Also, Dragonsix is the friend of the phoenix. I think...

albukhary, the rm300 per sq foot for gross land of 600 plus acres area after 10 years is unrealistic lah.

Hi there Cipta, sorry for the late reply been busy..regarding your question on governance, I personally believe SAB currently has a strong board for governence matter, I mean, look at the individuals, it sure is impressive! I feels that they surely know what they are doing. I'm confident that this board will not shortchange the shareholders.. both majority and minority, even kutty rats like me looking forward to building a retirement fund for myself and me cubs.... Hehehe...

An interesting arrangement here...hahaha!

I've just notice a pattern here....the more GENM makes, the more the public loses...

Hi all....what's the growth story here?...am really curious...

Hi there Cipta, I believe you were the one who mentioned about SAB's legal dispute & now you are praying for integrity? From my understanding of SAB's corporate structure, there are now 2 lawyers (one former federal court judge), 3 accountants & 1 former senior SC officer sitting on the SAB board, I don't see any problems in regards to integrity or governance...

Yogi says .... This is definitely a GOOD counter! ....Yogi says this too....public BEWARE (caveat emptor) Achtung!! Yogi says this as well.... Businesses that sells poison & get money is the perfect recipe for success! And Yogi's parting comments......'Who says vice don't pay?......it sure does....for yogi anyway.... * drag....inhale......puff puff...

Dear punters.......ini counter mana boleh jalan....M masih ada, R pun ada...... must change tactics lor...or else sure stuck liau..... Hahaha!..... (Seperti cerita dongeng Hikayat Merong Mahawangsa)...

My personal 2 cents of opinion, the owner cannot let this counter fall, he will definitely have to hold it up... As what the Chinese favourite quote is, ....'Die Die Must Hold!!'....

Hmmm.... Tan Sri Liew kena attack and poor him....I've notice all the short term punters here are quite heartless in that sense, once there are less 'prospective' profits to be gained....fangs and talons will be shown prominently!... Now attacking poor PNB? My, my....if SP Setia has no soul, what will happen to Setia Alam lah? To me, a successful Company is all about management, management and management! By the way I mean proper management la...

Hahahahaha! Albukhary! U saw the recent planted palm trees as well? I guess my observation regarding this counter is pretty spot on! SAB is one of the earliest oleochemical player in Malaysia. Oleochemical is a renewable product derived from palm oil thus, planting of palm oil on land while waiting for property development to mature further near kota kemuning makes a lot of sense to me. I choose to believe that the board knows what they are doing. My guess is palm oil products is their focus. Property development is incidental la...SAB is definately not a counter for short term investors....}

Ello all... I've notice that SAB's executive director is an oil palm man thus, sure plant oil palm la!! Estate man don't develop land one la...

Hi kltan, to be honest..I'm not that scared of the RM60 million case. My fear is more on the possibilities of shareholders dispute as per what Cipta refers to as a related party legal dispute. It could be the tip of an iceberg. As you know, any internal dispute is damaging to the company. SAB has a history of shareholders dispute. Somehow, rich people likes to fight over money! Hahaha! Anyway, they have earlier sometime in early 2000 tried developing this land (kemuning jaya, according to a friend of mine) but somehow dropped the idea and change direction. Subsequently, oil palm was replanted on this land.

Bro kltan, you've been buying into SAB for quite sometime now. It must have been quite an exhilarating run! By the way, what does Cipta means by SAB's related legal dispute to the tune of RM60 millions? I'm abit scared leh...

Hi KLTAN, you really don't believe me meh..when I made this statement previously " I have to watch oil palm grow"? Hahaha!
Anyway guys, I've re-bought back my position currently below RM5, on the grounds that SAB is a decently managed oleochemical product company with a relatively small plantation hectarage. But having said that, I'm also not sure la wether or when the directors/owners will go into property development.
Does anyone here knows if any of the SAB directors is a property developer? That would be a good indicator for all of us, if the full value can come soon enough! I do believe though, SAB can rise but not so fast one lah...

Kinda pathetic in my opinion.....by the way, the definition of clarity in success please? Loads of bulls..

you all keep ah....i've more than doubled my money in a few months and will b out of SAB for now. (have to go & watch the oil palm grow).

Hi there fellow investor! i think public invest is right and also wrong. The land value is there in a nice location yes but this co is a palm oil oleochemical products co. Long term, good value but short term, a bit hard to keep on running-up. Now kena bursa unusual market activity query (UMA query), i think short term puncture lah....