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2015-03-27 15:26 | Report Abuse
SELL AND LEASE BACK... SELL AND LEASE BACK...
The sell and lease back.. if done successfully will solve the problem of high gearing and the forex headache with the USD loans...
The 150 airplanes to be sold..... in USD, of course... indeed are serving the purpose of a natural hedge against the USD loans taken to buy them....simply because they will be sold in USD
Yes yes with the very high USD : RM exchange rate, as high as possible please; now is indeed a good time to sell airplanes. Fantastic timing!
Tony appears to be on top of things...
USD as high as possible please!
2015-03-27 12:54 | Report Abuse
If AirAsia has in fact hedged the non current portion which is due from 2 years upto 14 years then it is in fact speculating in derivatives...
My question is... How do you hedge something which is just even more than 12 months when you are not even able to see the trend for less than 12 months with a certain level of accuracy???
2015-03-27 08:19 | Report Abuse
The one thing that may mess up AirAsias figures again would be the USD
31. Borrowings and debt securities
RM.... At 31/12/2014
Current 2,274,928,000
Non-current 10,453,090,000
Total Debt 12,728,018,000
As at 31/12/2014, AirAsia has RM 12.7 billions loans of which approximately 85% was in USD and 50% of this was hedged per its risk management policy
However, out of this only RM 2.2 billions were current ie due within the next 12 months........ and the current portion is the only portion where the forex risk is a "clear and present danger" which should be managed by hedging normally to reduce the forex risk exposure.
The rest amounting to RM 10.5 billions was long term with due date ranging from 2 years upto 14 years, as such, need not be hedged at all as its forex risk exposure is neither "clear" non "present" at all.
The point is the only portion that will really impart on the income statement and cash flow is the current portion at only RM 2.2 billions.
The forex translation gain/loss of the non current portion is really only in paper... and will swing from gain/loss throughout its tenure of upto 14 years.... and is inconsequential
2015-03-26 18:15 | Report Abuse
The Wellingtons are keeping the faith too....
2015-03-26 17:07 | Report Abuse
Looking more and more like OLH is doing the other sides a big favour...
2015-03-26 17:06 | Report Abuse
All the waking up early for nothing : (
But keeping the faith....
2015-03-26 15:52 | Report Abuse
Yes.... set the alarm clock early to wake me to key in ler... ; )
but by the look of it now... like they really have billions shares to sell o
2015-03-26 12:30 | Report Abuse
Got it at 2.20 this morning....
Taking that 12,000+ lots at 2.06 at the top of the sell queue yesterday... as the sign of copulation liao
Hope I am right...
2015-03-25 17:41 | Report Abuse
Even with the Wellington buying... the selling has been that fierce and the price has dropped that much....
Big big forces are selling.... Big big forces are selling...
2015-03-25 17:36 | Report Abuse
Dear Wellington..... nice seeing you...
2015-03-25 17:14 | Report Abuse
Still......
Create a false support to let the buy queue build up..... then dump
Selling done very professionally....
2,783,000,000 × 60% = 1,669,800,000 of foreign shareholders
Very roughly roughly 5% of them have sold off in past few days when the price kept dropping......
Are they done yet??
But...... I am rather sure they will try their best and make sure the cut loss price will never be touched... unless they are really really just wtf whatever just wanna get the hell of out of here
2015-03-25 14:57 | Report Abuse
More people buying in anticipation....
2015-03-25 13:45 | Report Abuse
One.. two.. three.. four... five... six... bubbles.... seen surfacing lazily... one day closer to good time
2015-03-25 13:41 | Report Abuse
2,783,000,000 × 60% = 1,669,800,000 × 5% = 83,490,000
Very roughly roughly 5% of 'em foreign funds have sold off in past few days when the price kept dropping......
2015-03-24 17:00 | Report Abuse
4th batch...... almost masuk longkang too
If they do a cut loss price for you tomorrow.................................. How?
2015-03-24 16:53 | Report Abuse
Last minutes also dumped at 2.21..............................................
2015-03-24 16:14 | Report Abuse
Shazza I have fate in AirAsia due to inconsequential forex loss.. low oil prices.. sale and lease back....
But till this 4 RM to 1 USD by year end thingy runs its course it may be smart to follow the Wellingtons and smartly step aside... but KIV closely
2015-03-24 15:54 | Report Abuse
Can you feel the Wellingtons......?? think they have smartly stepped aside in the last 3 or 4 days
2015-03-24 15:51 | Report Abuse
The relentless selling must be neutralised has got to be absorbed .................
2015-03-24 15:41 | Report Abuse
Hold on boys hold on!!!
I am with you!! I am with you!!
2015-03-24 15:38 | Report Abuse
The difference today is.... more people around to buy... selling is just as furious
Local traders soaking it up.... left right right right left upper hook.... left swing.. hold on boys hold on!!!
2015-03-24 13:33 | Report Abuse
It is the expectation of stronger USD... unwinding of carry trade.. capital reversal.. risk off... bla bla bla.. thing
And.... this thing has got to run its course
2015-03-24 12:01 | Report Abuse
Up till now local traders hardly can take on the foreign funds.... ain't gonna be pretty
2015-03-24 07:57 | Report Abuse
I am not adverse to AirAsia dropping again....
2015-03-23 18:33 | Report Abuse
Buy lo... this is what we are waiting for
r°Moi Ya... threatening to be so... buy slowly.... not a good idea to queue
Still have bullet... when it goes there... I will be there
10/03/2015 12:15
2015-03-23 17:38 | Report Abuse
RIP
2015-03-23 16:56 | Report Abuse
Just that..... at this moment foreign funds just lumped everything with 1MDB and dump.. dump... dump
This is hurting my complexion : (
2015-03-23 16:44 | Report Abuse
For me... it is simple
effect of forex in future... way into the future
effect of low oil prices immediate... even now
2015-03-23 16:32 | Report Abuse
sweet eventually.... I am pretty sure I am pretty sure............ ; )
2015-03-23 16:29 | Report Abuse
Sweet..... bitter................ sweet....... sweet eventually
2015-03-23 16:25 | Report Abuse
I see it as an opportunity too..........................................................
I have had profit from AirAsia earlier.. that was why I already went in at below 2.40.... luckily the price dropped so fast... that I still have bullets now
2015-03-23 16:19 | Report Abuse
AirAsia's foreign shareholders during good time was 60%.....
2015-03-23 16:17 | Report Abuse
based on USD:RM...... 3.70 to 4.00... still 8% more for the RM to drop
Given this..... If you are foreign funds what would you do??
2015-03-23 16:16 | Report Abuse
But based on USD:RM...... 3.70 to 4.00... still 8% more for the RM to drop
2015-03-23 16:14 | Report Abuse
Based on fundamentals..... quite some time ago
2015-03-23 16:13 | Report Abuse
Haha... quite some time ago................... if you are holding mid to long term
2015-03-23 16:11 | Report Abuse
when the buy queue at 2.19 built up to 7190 lots.... they dumped at 2.19 in one go
2015-03-23 16:00 | Report Abuse
It is a good thing the price has fallen so fast..... too fast to buy
2015-03-23 15:59 | Report Abuse
Ya.... there you go..... 7190 is big enough ler...............
2015-03-23 15:44 | Report Abuse
me as well........................................................................................................................................
2015-03-23 15:40 | Report Abuse
If the buy queue at 2.19 has built up big enough... then yes
2015-03-23 15:21 | Report Abuse
AirAsia is really screwed... ???
2015-03-23 15:06 | Report Abuse
Forces bigger than the Wellingtons are selling...
Forced selling of contra players too??
2015-03-23 15:06 | Report Abuse
Posted by r°Moi > Mar 18, 2015 09:33 AM | Report Abuse X
Create a false support for the buy queue to build up... then dump
Create a false support for the buy queue to build up... then dump
Create a false support for the buy queue to build up... then dump
The selling has beeen very professionally done...
Stock: [CAPITALA]: CAPITAL A BERHAD
2015-03-27 15:29 | Report Abuse
It is better for AirAsia to have a light balance sheet and to focus on what it does best... ie running a low cost airline..