It is hard for Insas share price to stand above RM1.00 unless it can consistently declare dividends of 5.0 sen or above every year. Actually the company can just distribute out the dividends it receives from Inari, which may be more than 5 sen per share of Insas.

If the company chooses to just give out 1 or 2 sen dividend only, then minorities shareholders are not getting any much reward in holding on the share. It will be a value trap forever with the cash it receives being channeled to other subsidiary companies like M&A, Omesti or even Ho Hup as working capitals. Worse still would be when Insas cash is used to bail out other ailing companies owned by major shareholders or associates.

Instead of rewarding shareholders with more dividends, the company even got more money from minority shareholders by issuing the preference shares PA and will get more money when minority shareholders convert their warrants WC to ordinary shares over next 5 years. What is the point of holding onto this stock without much tangible benefit?

Genting will have over RM7.0 billion of operating cash flows per year once things get normalised from 2022. As major capex for Las Vegas and Genting Highlands outdoor themed park is over, and the likelihood of getting Yokohama IR licence has diminished, so the capex for Genting going forward will drop significantly to below RM1.5 billion. Assuming it will pare down debts by RM1.5-1.8 billion every year, it will still have close to RM4.0 billion of free cash flows or over RM1.00 per share every year. Things are looking up for Genting and its share price will likely go up back to its glory days of RM9.00-10.00 level in 2 years.

Nice closing for Samchem today, same for DKSH, Media, Ambank and MHB.

MHB is also cash rich but temporarily set back by operational disruption. Its earnings and cash flows will catch up once its heavy engineering division starts to execute its secured contracts smoothly.

You are probably right. I am sure Johari will find other ways of distributing out the cash in the company which will increase by 12-15 sen every year.


Posted by LuckyStorm > Sep 3, 2021 3:52 PM | Report Abuse

Media prima is not possible to declare dividend until they proposed capital reduction.
Accumulated losses around 900m in their balance sheet.
Share capital is 1500m, if proposed capital reduction of 70% of share capital will eliminate their accumulated losses and also won’t fall into PN17.
Correct me if i am wrong. Thanks

Buying back corporate office building is to save rental costs of RM7-8 million a year. Operating cash flows will be increased by the same amount after the acquisition.

Anyway this vaccine distribution is just extra income to DKSH in this year and next. From its existing businesses, DKSH may already get about RM160-200m free cash flows or over RM1.00 per share a year. Assuming dividend payouts of 50% of free cash flows or 80% of net profit, that would be 50 sen dividend steadily every year.

For a 7.0% dividend yield, this stock should trade at RM7.00.
For a 5.0% dividend yield, it should trade at RM10.00.

Typically DKSH would try to get a gross margin of around 7% from distribution. Assuming a cost of RM150 per dose of CanSino vaccine, the company may get a gross margin of RM10.50 from distributing 1 dose of vaccine. For 1 million dose, the gross margin would be over RM10 million.

There is a possibility for Media to declare an interim dividend in next few weeks but it will be more likely so at Q4 announcement. The company needs to complete the buy back of its corporate office building in Bangsar first.

Short term share price fluctuations are unavoidable. Not many investors appreciate the value and potential of Samchem yet as no research house covers this stock. By the time Samchem shows its ability to use strong operating cash flows to reduce borrowings by RM50m or more in next quarter, its share price will fly and you cannot catch it below RM1.00 anymore, like in the case of DKSH.

In the case of DKSH which is a big distributor of F&B products, it carried huge borrowings totalled RM567m in early this year with cash only RM50m. But within half a year, its operating cash flow was so strong that it could utilise it to pare down RM101m of debts to RM466m. It would be able to pay off all borrowings within 3 years. Same goes for Samchem with annual free cash flows of over RM100m that may be used to pay off all debts within 3 years.

You can never go wrong picking up stocks with strong cash flows, not only looking at accounting profits. You can check my recent comments on Media Prima, Ambank and DKSH, all have surged up after good quarterly results that confirmed strong operating cash flows.

Samchem is a big distributor of hundreds of industrial chemicals. There are times when the company sees opportunities to build up inventory stocks at bargain prices, it will load up by taking up short term borrowings. Otherwise, there is always time difference in collection from customers and payments made to suppliers, especially when the company revenue was up by 65%. It will need to draw down money from working capital facilities.

Short term borrowing increased by RM86m due to working capital changes, not a bad issue lah. The important thing is that operational cash flows before working capital changes were very strong at RM69.6m for 1H. As a result, cash balance increased by RM64m.

PER just 5.7x. Annual free cash flows close to 20 sen per share. After listing of its Vietnamese subsidiary company, easily another RM300 million will add into its cash coffer.

This is only the first day of strong rebound. Media is still extremely cheap with nett cash of 18 sen and annual free cash flows of 15 sen. When it starts declaring dividends possibly at Q4 this year, this stock will be over 80 sen.

Cheapest bank stock in terms of PER or price to book value. The worst is over, Ambank trading near year low will catch up with other bank stocks like CIMB or RHB which are trading near year high.

Overbought. will correct soon

Unbelievably cheap for the most profitable chemicals company in Bursa with PER of 5.5x and free cash flows of 20 sen per year

Excellent quarterly results!! This is a cash cow company with half year operational cash flows of RM98 million. It is already in nett cash position, just imagine how much cash this company will have with free cash flows of 15 sen every year!!

Superb results with half year free cash flows of RM100 million which was used to reduce debts. In 2 years, this company will be debt free and annual free cash flows shall be over RM160 million or RM1.00 per share!!!

Dividend 20 sen then share price should be close to RM4.00

Correct. High NTA is just a paper figure. Minority shareholders are not getting any good reward in holding this stock, just a petty 2-3 sen dividend per year. Even if Inari continues to distribute the bulk of its earnings as dividends, Insas will use such dividend money on other businesses or just keep in the company. Share price will not move past 90 sen if there is no consistent higher dividend above 5.0 sen or a corporate exercise that rewards minority shareholders.

JAG's average cost of purchase for his 222m shares of Media should be around RM0.38-0.42. He may be looking at ways to increase stakes below RM0.45.

Morgan Stanley started selling from 12 April where prices were around 0.65 and the last date it announced to have sold Media shares was 1st June when the lowest price was 0.52.

Thereafter, there has been over 20m shares traded. Who was selling? and why pushing down the share price so hard?

We shall know very soon.

Nett cash of almost 20 sen and free cash flows of over 10 sen every year make it a good privatisation target. Morgan Stanley will not sell much below 50 sen. So much undervalued!

It does not matter how much value of Inari shares Insas has if it does not sell it to realise the value. It does not matter how much dividend Insas receive from Inari if it does not distribute higher dividends. It is a value trap. What do minority shareholders of Insas get? Is there any good reason for investors to buy Insas above RM0.80?