It is not just the short term player sell, those who sai lang around 6 also sell some of their holdings. If not no money to buy other shares.

crack spread stay around US7 heng yuan can go above 20 already

Nekosan is busy taking profit in HY after that he will come back to scare you all and buy back cheap again.

Up too fast there will be heavy profit taking then up again...

Most of us only having one stock in the portfolio HY, sailang around 6.00

Most already sai lang and trap in heng yuan no more cash.

3iii is mentally sick at 6.00 he ask everyone around here "don't buy, don't buy". Now HY 18 He keep reply to anyone who give target price for HY asking them "buy more...buy more"

Those who bought 16.30 this morning ~ smart investor, those who no buy and no intention to buy but everyday waste time analyze intrinsic value of HY ~ stupid investor

3iii did post alternative view all are negative view and ignore the positive. Keep saying that HY good results will not sustain but what about steel counter? Annjoo quarter results also not consistent steel price also fluctuate why 3iii don't go to annjoo topic give his alternate view?

Fred Tam use his chart and say heng yuan is a sell signal today. But he is wrong the share go up.

All sleep 5 hours wake up first thing on computer go to i3 and fight for another day. both stockraider and 3iii not yet breakfast and brush teeth. Stockraider will win the war again and again. 3iii will keep coming back.

3iii >>>
In 2004, the EPS of Shell (now Hengyuan) last peaked. Its PER was the lowest, ranging 1.9 to 4.3x.

Its EPS then fell in 2005 and 2006. As its EPS contracted, its PER too expanded. In 2005, it was 4.9 to 7.1x and in 2006, it was 11.1 to 13.0x.

In 2009, its lowest positive EPS was reported and this coincided with its PE at historical high range of 29.3 to 30.9x.

This is the PE fluctuations, typical of a company with cyclical earnings.

The best time to buy this stock was when its PE was as its cyclical peak and to sell was when its PE was at its cyclical low.


I believe Hengyuan's price is already near its peak and its PE was at its cyclical low recently.




STS

Gladiator will follow 3iii advice to sell HY if price drop to RM8 (PE2.5 cyclical low) and buy at at RM24 (PE cyclical peak)

3iii will be so proud of me.

STS

I like stockraider comment, very logic in analyzing HY.

3iii did not buy Hnegyuan at 5 ask people to sell at 6 now 16.30 and he still want to come here show he is smart?

This article is so stupid. kyy who build IJM already know that Hengyuan is no Nestle, Dutch Lady, BAT. Not even Oldtown. Thats why kyy said in his article Dutch Lady PE30, BAT PE18, Nestle PE34 and Heng Yuan only PE10, I repeat Heng Yuan only PE10. felicity obviously trying to show that he is smarter than kyy without reading kyy article properly. Why? Cause he choose petron over hengyuan and he is so wrong http://www.intellecpoint.com/2017/07/

He want to buy cheap

Congratulation you deserve to be rich.

I believe some of you has taken profit and laughing all the way to the bank while 3iii is here demonstrate his skill of calculate Intrinsic Value. At the end what do he get? Respect? Honour? He get nothing....while watching HY continue to trade higher day after day.

Posted by 3iii > Dec 28, 2017 11:48 AM | Report Abuse
"2 things you must learn and master to be a successful stock investor:

1. What market or stock PRICE FLUCTUATIONS mean to you?
2. HOW TO VALUE an asset?"

3iii you miss HY at $5.00 now HY $17.00 and you want to teach people how to invest? So you call yourself a successful stock investor? Lets party together.

Posted by 3iii > Dec 28, 2017 11:11 AM | Report Abuse
"My conservatively estimated intrinsic value for Hengyuan is $5.00"

3iii HY price now is above 300% of your own estimation intrinsic value. Lets party together.

3iii come out celebrate together, we invite you to our party and have fun don't cry alone.

Another way to know when to sell is when analysis starts to cover HY and give target price.

I bought Masteel when result out, I fail to buy more when kyy bad mouth masteel but today I still have profit. kyy is not always right. No one is always right.

RM16 coming..

When HY shows consistent profit for 3 years and pay good dividend 3iii will decide to buy..at RM37.00

3iii is hiding every time HY price go up, today he comes out talking cock thinking that HY will drop today.

Fully agree with babihutanlol every time 3iii come here and talk cock, HY price is going up.

I too pick up Masteel wating to sell at RM1.68

Suddenly drop so much, anyone heart attack?

If you cannot hold the stock until RM21 then sell at RM18.88 during CNY. 1888 sure ong for the rest of the year.

I will sell some at 18.88 during CNY

2 cents to RM1.00 Anyone here still got money to buy? make it RM1.00

4 sents to RM1.00

One after another resistant broken. HengYuan momentum too strong. Raider can rest now, after so many months defends of this stock as the price already speaks for itself. 3iii can rest too no need to bad mouth HY anymore if miss the boat the only thing can do now bangs the head against the wall.

Already sai lang no more money to average up.

The mentality of 3iii towards Heng Yuan is the same as John Master towards GSB in Investlah forum. One see rubbish as gold and keep promoting up to 9 version. The other see gold as rubbish keep asking people not to buy from RM6.00 to RM13.00 One thing in common both try to be smart and go against the crowd. Time will tell that they are wrong.

Congratulation rojakmee you are rich now.......smart investor.

Most people already sai lang in heng yuan when the price around RM7.00 and they do not project HY EPS for 2018 or years to come and today they are rich. Some people try to figure out EPS for 2018, 2019, 2020....and they profit nothing from heng yuan, miss the boat. Moral of the story, don't try to be smart.

Don't talk so loud, The government might hear you and introduce capital gain tax. Those who profit over million will have to pay 50% of the profit as tax.

I attend this year AGM in May

Those who once criticise hengyuan join the boat today after reading the edge article regret that they did not buy earlier so sai lang today and that's the reason for chart breakout.

3iii probably is buying hengyuan too thinking that criticise hengyuan for so long and gain nothing while watching the shares go up. So decide to join the boat.

I guess richDad buying back hengyuan today and push the price to all time high...he is rich

he is trap

3iii > I think the long term sustainable crack spread should be closer to US $4 and below.

I understand now why 3iii stop everyone to buy hengyuan even when it trade below RM4.00 because he think that refinery margin will hit bottom again. Base on his argument everyone should not buy annjoo below RM1.00 back in 2016 because steel price will hit bottom again. Should not buy pmetal below RN1.00 back in 2016, should not buy plantation stock even if palm oil price goes up.

So what shares to buy? from 3iii point of view Dutch Lady & Nestle.

Good luck to those who listen to 3iii's crap.

Anyone planning to add more on Monday?

Congratulations to all who buy hengyuan. I guess tonight everyone have a good night sleep and sleeping now. Thanks 3iii for making people panic and sell so that I can buy cheap. Thanks EPF & ASB sell down the share and I can buy cheap.

If tomorrow Hengyuan unable to release its Third Quarter Results cause unable to contact the two remaining directors. How???

If tomorrow out many cannot sleep tonight

Asking people to buy GSB is a joke