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1 month ago | Report Abuse
Mr.Goh their price is low because of scales, energy subsidy and very low interest borrowing from china. That's provided they operate in china yea. When they come out they lose majority of walking sticks.
Working culture will be different, no energy subsidy, potential workers problem, Logistic problem. I dont understand why u can say there will be slight decrease in profit.
2 months ago | Report Abuse
Posted by Sslee > 5 minutes ago | Report Abuse
Disclaimer: This is not a buy or sell call but just facts and figures from jayatiasa annual report, quarter report and presentation slide.
I am not oblige to tell anyone when I buy or sell jayatiasa but currently I hold 2,320,000 units of jayatiasa shares.
Almost top 30 =). I have 550k units
2 months ago | Report Abuse
SSlee what authority do u have on managing the money. Balian is right
2 months ago | Report Abuse
when u need to beg management for dividend its time to dispose. bet a bit can la never go big betting on this type of management
2 months ago | Report Abuse
he just trapped himself inside. low liquidity, no dividend
2 months ago | Report Abuse
i really respect and be friend with people like you. most ppl will hide their losses or unwilling to share them.
2 months ago | Report Abuse
ss lee did u manage to recover any money from xinquan?
2 months ago | Report Abuse
interesting. thx for sharing. no la u just need to pick companies that are honest and have integrity. if they are not honest whatever numbers projected are of no use. u can throw the book into dustbin
2 months ago | Report Abuse
see how the management reply. treat shareholders like beggars
2 months ago | Report Abuse
wa this ksl really chao ka. first time i hear this adopt already can u turn and totally remove from the yearly report. Run and dont look back this company has no integrity
2 months ago | Report Abuse
KSL the chao ka lol. i just browse through their annual report dont have such formal dividend policy. nothing mentioned about it. 100% use mouth say talk cock sing song
2 months ago | Report Abuse
u cant even find one example to substantiate your point?
2 months ago | Report Abuse
Posted by Berlin > 11 minutes ago | Report Abuse
Huh? It says dividend policy, not dividend guarantee. Better go find out the difference between a policy and a guarantee.
whats the point of setting a dp if u are not going to follow it? Putting shit in your own pants?
Why dont u give me one example where a company didnt pay according to the dp they set. Since u say its not certainty im guessing u are smart and resourceful enough to share me 1 example indicating dp is not certainty
2 months ago | Report Abuse
hello.. dividend policy is the guarantee la what u talking about
2 months ago | Report Abuse
Berlin
Payout 6% dividend FY2024 is RM58 m or 41% of net profit RM141 m when guideline is 20%. Tell you anything?
U dont understand where im coming from. i can give u all the info profit cashflow etc but u still cannot guess the dividend. min 20% max ?. U see the range? for an investor 20% and 80% is a world of difference
2 months ago | Report Abuse
unless u can convince the bod to raise dpolicy
2 months ago | Report Abuse
yea i get u. just dont be overly optimistic. its not certain. i have jtiasa too but im okay with the worst case scenario i wont lose money
2 months ago | Report Abuse
Only death and taxes are certain. Dividends can never be fixed and certain; it depends on the company's performance, future needs and ultimately the BOD who determine and can vary the set policy. That is why 2.5% + 3.5 % for FY2024 is so significant being the highest for decades.
i wonder how u invest if theres no aspect of certainty when it comes to your decision making. so are u happy with 6cents dividend? if they dont tune their policy. they are only committed to pay u not more than 8c every year for the next decade or so.
its up to them. not you.
2 months ago | Report Abuse
sorry to hurt you sslee. but your pick in jtiasa is still a way better choice than insas which cant even formulate a d.policy till date
2 months ago | Report Abuse
the reason why jtiasa price seems undervalued is because there is no revision to dividend policy yet. they can have 500m operating profit what is the use if the minorities dont have absolute certainty? price will always be in discount due to lack of transparency and clear direction.
2 months ago | Report Abuse
Reply: Our existing policy is to pay a minimum dividend of 20% of net profit subject to not compromising the Group's ability to support its pursuit for long-term growth. However, that will not restrict declaration of dividend of more than 20%. With improvement in financial position and market condition, the dividend payout will increase accordingly
This is not good enough. they need to commit
2 months ago | Report Abuse
Posted by Sslee > 40 seconds ago | Report Abuse
Market cap 1,081 million
Net cash flows from operating activities 360,029,000 FYE 30/6/2024
If CPO can hold above RM3,900 then plenty of room for Jtiasa price to move north.
u can talk all u like but the risk is dividend policy is 20%. they can still fxxx u up by not paying u more dividend and spend like fxxx all. remember insas? hoard cash
2 months ago | Report Abuse
my dividend 40k+ this year have some catching up to do
2 months ago | Report Abuse
Posted by Sslee > 10 minutes ago | Report Abuse
With 3.5 sen dividend this will push my dividend received for this year to over 200k+
Mike-tikus don't be jeoleous. Your jaks and Priva when can give dividend?
hahaha dont like that
2 months ago | Report Abuse
Its like a zoo. grown up having arguments without info sharing. The only good thing about this website is i can get access to reports
2 months ago | Report Abuse
Posted by Sslee > 28 seconds ago | Report Abuse
It remind me of one upon a time qqq3 vs OTB.
But at least qqq3 now trapped in China market and have no one to blame.
blame xi jin ping
2 months ago | Report Abuse
but again ss lee the correct approach is not to value a company based on the current situation now especially a cyclical one like this but to access the competitive edge it has over china albeit a very slim one.
2 months ago | Report Abuse
Posted by Sslee > 25 minutes ago | Report Abuse
Once PIC (Pengerang Integrated Complex) in operation with negative margin spread of naphtha feedstock-ethylene derivative and finance cost cannot be capitalized and huge depreciation cost come in plus if ringgit strengtening against USD then next quarter result will be ugly.
yes. u are very right the following quarter will look horrible. if im right its not going to be in operation ethylene propylene are in excess. they are lucky if profit is not in negative territory
2024-08-16 14:33 | Report Abuse
Sslee
Individual quarter ended 30 June 2024: Cumulative quarter ended 30 June 2024
RM Mil
Revenue A9.1 7,728 15,227
Cost of revenue (6,255) (12,383)
Gross profit 1,473 2,844
Selling and distribution expenses (523) (1,030)
Administration expenses (400) (766)
Other expenses (63) (51)
Other income 549 886
Operating profit B4 1,036 1,883
Financing costs (30) (73)
Share of (loss)/profit after tax of equityaccounted associates and joint ventures (66) (65)
Profit before taxation 940 1,745
Tax expense B5 (131) (233)
PROFIT FOR THE PERIOD 809 1,512
Profit attributable to:
Shareholders of the Company 777 1,445
Non-controlling interests 32 67
PROFIT FOR THE PERIOD 809 1,512
Basic earnings per share attributable to
shareholders of the Company:
Based on ordinary shares issued (sen) B13 10 18
Is above a good result?
If without the other income of 549 million what will be the PAT?
this result is expected and going to be like that for quite some time. their cracker is not even online. lets talk about competitive edge. they have all of the feed stock crude, coal, gas vs china coal and gas. i can deduce for sure for every metric tonne petchem breakeven company like Sinopec CNPC and their company will burn money. This itself is good enough. China recently become nett exporter of PP and PE
2024-08-13 14:30 | Report Abuse
Geographically wise Pchem has advantage as a world class port.
2024-08-13 14:29 | Report Abuse
Posted by Sslee > 14 minutes ago | Report Abuse
Question
i tried looking at 2023 agm Q&A cant seem to find the same batch of questions. anyway, The real question we need to ask is do they have competitive edge against china. We dont know about how well china vertical integrations are. chances are its going to be very well integrated
2024-08-13 10:55 | Report Abuse
Posted by Sslee > 20 hours ago | Report Abuse
The question what will happen when China turn from big importer of petrol chemical to big exporter of petrochemical?
any reading material boss?
2024-08-12 08:51 | Report Abuse
Posted by Sslee > 5 days ago | Report Abuse
How can strengthening of RM good for our export oriented economy?
its only good thing is if cost is export orientated and your revenue is domestic orientated
or
u have pricing power but that would require you to be in niche position or high up in export chain
2024-08-09 20:45 | Report Abuse
Posted by Sslee > 9 hours ago | Report Abuse
Why set the horizon for next decade when I not even know what will I have for a dinner? So I settle for a trader aim for 30% gain or just for a free bintang beer and lobster.
Just trade for fun and collecting dividend.
Hahaha. thats what i used to thought too. but thats actually too much work for me. i want my capital to grow as easy as breathing
2024-08-09 10:45 | Report Abuse
Posted by Sslee > 27 seconds ago | Report Abuse
Me, more like a q to q earning predictor am busy buying those stocks that I think will report a good quarter end 31/6/2024.
why not extend your horizon for the next decade? your life is set with 1 or 2 winner
2024-08-09 08:40 | Report Abuse
Posted by Sslee > 1 hour ago | Report Abuse
For some money is just a figure. So for investor like Philip to be right is more important.
As for trader like me a 30% win is good enough for me to take profit.
The key is really just to be consistent. if u make 30% 60% of the time and lose 30% 40% of the time. i dont see anything wrong with it.
2024-08-07 14:52 | Report Abuse
economies of scale only work in volume. it has slashed its inefficient arm give it some time to grow back and further integrate. the margin will grow back over time
2024-08-07 14:51 | Report Abuse
gohkimhock
"We expect its earnings to return to pre-Covid level only in FY27/28F onwards"
This is laughable. I can bet with you it will never return to pre-Covid19 level. Never.
ok on i dont like to talk much. we revisit 10 years later. if harta keep growing or get demolished by intco.
2024-08-07 09:07 | Report Abuse
EPS of 0.94 sen and dividend of 0.35 sen.
Is that a good result?
its only a bad result if its going to remain as such.
if u use china as the reason i can still accept
-100% utilization rate
-probably going to get 30b credit line from the government
-expansion
-why they can sell 20-30% cheaper
i do agree everything from quantitative point of view the price doesnt make sense. investing is a qualitative game
2024-08-06 15:03 | Report Abuse
gohkimhock
pre-Covid19 is way better than now..
of course la mr.goh. they close down their arms, still oversupply condition. the question is do they have what it takes to compete in the future. U keep saying harta is bad. How many company exactly in Malaysia can compete in world stage. i can count with my hands
2024-08-06 09:37 | Report Abuse
What I bough yesterday:
Buy 05/08/2024 07/08/2024 INSAS 80,000 0.991600 79,569.83
Buy 05/08/2024 07/08/2024 JTIASA 100,000 0.998500 100,229.59
Buy 05/08/2024 07/08/2024 LBS 40,000 0.605000 24,292.76
Buy 05/08/2024 07/08/2024 LTKM 20,000 1.325000 26,601.20
Buy 05/08/2024 07/08/2024 PANTECH 110,000 0.970500 107,054.16
strong. ss lee
2024-07-31 10:51 | Report Abuse
nothing to do with dividend la. dp 60% u can literally count the dividend
2024-07-25 14:30 | Report Abuse
bought 600 unit harta on 25/7/24 with cash balance
2024-07-23 13:44 | Report Abuse
no offense goh the property mahsing build are known to give the least return to homebuyer. Highly dense every single development is 1000+unit to 3000 unit adding to the traffic jam without giving any added value to the community nearby
2024-07-15 15:49 | Report Abuse
Mikecyc
Haha Insider keep Disposed shares :
why is the price not dropping much.
2024-07-15 13:10 | Report Abuse
Yes still holding Jtiasa. Expect quarter end 30/6/2024 result should be better than last quarter and with dividend.
If CPO price can hold above RM 3,900, I expect Jtiasa price to test the 52 weeks high of RM 1.53 by year end.
expecting big dividends when they achieve FCF next year. im a small holder not as big as you
Stock: [HARTA]: HARTALEGA HOLDINGS BHD
1 month ago | Report Abuse
Harta definitely can survive without any help. What about Intco without the big hand behind doing all the heavy supporting? Think again