Stock: [HENGYUAN]: HENGYUAN REFINING CO BHD

Dec 31, 2017 09:29 PM | Report Abuse

Why I am here?

I hate to see idiots promoting Hengyuan day and night non-stop.

Already gone overboard.

Just syiok-syiok sendiri.

Always think of the positive side.

Never want to pay attention to the negative aspects.

Try to lure ignorant newbies without giving due caution to the potential risk.

Promoters are not promoting a decent stock with decent price with good faith.........ALL IN ALL, THEY ARE HERE TO CON YOU..................

Since KYY already bought 20m HY shares, unlikely he is going to buy more.
NOT prudent to put all eggs in ONE BASKET.

IF HE IS NOT BUYING ANY MORE, LIKELY HE WILL BE SELLING AT ONE POINT OR ANOTHER.

You know Newton's Law of Motion?

Force = Mass x Acceleration

F is now net negative.
Acceleration become Retardation.
Price can now only heading South.............

When did Hengyuan pay dividend for the last time? 2013?
When do you expect Hengyuan to pay dividend again? 2023?

Like all Red Chips, if you still think Hengyuan is making 5 ringgit or 10 ringgit a year, and expect windfall dividend, you might as well wait for Xinquan to declare a 10 sen dividend.

Sama-sama lah, all are red chips.

Don't believe, check CAP, Maxwell, CSL, Xinquan, Xinghe, Kanger, CNOuhua, all were PE 1.5x, and all cannot afford to pay dividend.

Later on fire will break out in their factories/ refinery.

Be careful, when major shareholders start to unload, it will be like Maxwell owner selling her share at 2 sen..........

Why I am here?

I hate to see idiots promoting Hengyuan day and night non-stop.

Already gone overboard.

Just syiok-syiok sendiri.

Always think of the positive side.

Never want to pay attention to the negative aspects.

Try to lure ignorant newbies without giving due caution to the potential risk.

Promoters are not promoting a decent stock with decent price with good faith.........ALL IN ALL, THEY ARE HERE TO CON YOU..................

Woa!
Potential beggar already practising how to ask for 1 or 2 ringgit handouts............

All coming to Hengyuan forum to reinforce their belief.
Can't even tolerate different opinion from one who can afford only 100 shares.

Might as well you keep on singing Henyuan will go to 100 ringgit.

Everything that goes up must come down.

Never mind lah.
If you think you fit to be a dead hero, go ahead.

Even I can only afford to buy 100 shares, I am still very much better than the idiots who want to be dead hero..........

Pitiful why so many idiots in i3 cannot take an opinion contrary to their beliefs?
Please bear in mind, sellers always have different opinion or else they will be the buyers.

What was the turnover on 29th Dec?
Clearly it gives reversal trend.
Still like to talk like sifu?
My foot...........

It will be interesting to see who are crying foul in one or two months' time.
Still believe Hengyuan going to give you windfall dividend?
Still believe Hengyuan going to give you dividend at all?

Ask KYY.
He will not tell you whether he is sure this Red Chip is going to declare a 10 sen dividend.........

Better than a dead hero.........

KYY also bought big into Xinquan, and asked you to follow........

Yes.
I will give you 1 ringgit in Petaling Street.......

It is better than to be a beggar in Petaling Street later on......

Yes.
I can only afford 100 shares.
So what?

Buy good share cheap.
What do you understand by the word 'cheap'?
Is it just because KYY suggest PE 5 is cheap?

Don't be a fool for New Year.
Switch to a really cheap and good counter.
You will not lose back what is already made.

Worse still if you still follow blindly on superinvestor's buy call.....
Just like Xinquan..........until the very last minute before it was finally RIP.

To be sour grape is much better than to cry foul later on.

Play safe.
Take profit now.
Let the greedy fools have their arms chop off...........

When did Hengyuan pay dividend for the last time? 2013?
When do you expect Hengyuan to pay dividend again? 2023?

Like all Red Chips, if you still think Hengyuan is making 5 ringgit or 10 ringgit a year, and expect windfall dividend, you might as well wait for Xinquan to declare a 10 sen dividend.

Sama-sama lah, all are red chips.

Don't believe, check CAP, Maxwell, CSL, Xinquan, Xinghe, Kanger, CNOuhua, all were PE 1.5x, and all cannot afford to pay dividend.

Later on fire will break out in their factories/ refinery.

Be careful, when major shareholders start to unload, it will be like Maxwell owner selling her share at 2 sen.........

Play safe.
Take profit now.
Let the greedy fools have their arms chop off...........

When did Hengyuan pay dividend for the last time? 2013?
When do you expect Hengyuan to pay dividend again? 2023?

Like all Red Chips, if you still think Hengyuan is making 5 ringgit or 10 ringgit a year, and expect windfall dividend, you might as well wait for Xinquan to declare a 10 sen dividend.

Sama-sama lah, all are red chips.

Don't believe, check CAP, Maxwell, CSL, Xinquan, Xinghe, Kanger, CNOuhua, all were PE 1.5x, and all cannot afford to pay dividend.

Later on fire will break out in their factories/ refinery.

Be careful, when major shareholders start to unload, it will be like Maxwell owner selling her share at 2 sen...........

Your standard?
http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/cube/post/dickyme.jsp

Very soon you will be a beggar on the street......

Read carefully, your name is Dick to your hole, your ass hole....

Or you are waiting for dick as your name suggests?
Too bad.
You already has to sell your asshole........

So you are not sour grape?
You are a beggar?

So to be a superinvestor, you must be able to win big and lose big.
More so if you use margin finance that will make you a billionaire or a bankrupt.
Where do you think you are heading to?
Holland or heaven?

Pay to be a 'sour grape' than to be a beggar later on...........

Director?
You trust him?
Checkout Dubai Shopping Mall.

Find out more on Linear Corp, and Masterskill.
You can make up yourself.

Check with kcchongnz.
Don't follow book blindly.........

Popcorm time !

Everyone who come to market must pay tuition fees.
Sslee is no exception.
Ccmeow equally qualified and not less learned than Old_and_Golden.
I am not too certain how qualified is Old_and_Golden.
Served as a Professional means that he is just an employee.
A Doctor/ Medical Consultant with NHS?
An Engineer/Consultant with Arup?
Oil man with BP?
Auditor with Big Three?
Management Consultant with MBBA?
Banker with Commercial Bank?

All are not relevant.
i3 here is full of professional, which include CFA's.

More important is know your Directors/ Substantial shareholders.
Do you have questions with regard to their credibility and integrity?
Financial accounts are good only if Directors are honest.
Read carefully in the Auditors' Report, they rely on the information provided by the Directors.
Understand what is creative accounting means.
Understand why and when Kitchen Sink can happen.
Understand how and why the Big Four Auditing Firms (now left with Big Three) compromise their accounting standard.
Go back to read up Enron incident.
Read more to find out how good is Public Invest Analyst's Research Reports and TPs.

Finally, I wish you good luck.
Paying some tuition fees is ok, provided each time you learn a lesson.
Don't let your tuition fees down to the drain...........

ARReits disposal of Silver Bird Factory for 105m is a good move.
Visited the site recently.
Found that the factory facade had deteriorated so much.
Hard to find tenant at present difficult time.
At least can save 5m interest each year to help boost earning by same amount.......

Is it really a good buy?
How is the land compared with 23.16 acres of freehold prime land developed by IOIP for 1039 units of condo (GDV 677m) under brand name Skyz Residence?
Location wise, Skyz Residence is very much more superior than subject land.
Project is almost completed due for delivery latest by Jun 2018.
Too bad the sales so far is less than 30% to date.
http://idaman2.kpkt.gov.my:8888/idv5/98_eHome/laporanJualanRumah.cfm?p...

What is your deduction.
To me, this transaction is not beneficial to UEMS shareholders in short term.
1. Simply overpriced.
2. Still ample land available in the vicinity (Megajaya).
3. Future development is towards Bukit Jalil City under Malton (Pavilion).
4. Access road is terribly jam. Only consolation is not too far from MEX exit and MRT Line 2 (2 to 3 km away).
5. Bandar Puchong Jaya, Kinrara and Bukit Jalil City are more preferred address, so the houses fetch higher premium.
6. Unlikely residential units (condo?) can sell better than those in Bandar Puchong Jaya, Kinrara or Bukit Jalil City.
7. Very likely UEMS will not develop the land for next 10 years.



Don't ever believe in Public Anal-list.
They are not qualify to give any good accurate research report.
Go and look at their reports for Parkson, SP Setia, Lotte Chemicals and many many more to convince yourself.

Is it a good buy?
How is the land compared with 23.16 acres of freehold prime land developed by IOIP for 1039 units of condo (GDV 677m) under brand name Skyz Residence?
Location wise, Skyz Residence is very much more superior than subject land.
Project is almost completed due for delivery latest by Jun 2018.
Too bad the sales so far is less than 30% to date.
http://idaman2.kpkt.gov.my:8888/idv5/98_eHome/laporanJualanRumah.cfm?pmju_Kod=5579&proj_Kod_Fasa=25&proj_Nama=Skyz

What is your deduction.
To me, this transaction is not beneficial to UEMS shareholders in short term.
1. Simply overpriced.
2. Still ample land available in the vicinity (Megajaya).
3. Future development is towards Bukit Jalil City under Malton (Pavilion).
4. Access road is terribly jam. Only consolation is not too far from MEX exit and MRT Line 2 (2 to 3 km away).
5. Bandar Puchong Jaya, Kinrara and Bukit Jalil City are more preferred address, so the houses fetch higher premium.
6. Unlike residential units (condo?) can sell better than those in Bandar Puchong Jaya, Kinrara or Bukit Jalil City.
7. Very likely UEMS will not develop the land for next 10 years.

So you have spent all your 20k.
What happen if all these shares drop 5%, 10%?
Do you intend to pump in more to average down?
Or you just follow cpteh cut loss?
Or do you just stop and stare without further action?

Need to formulate your buying and exit strategy.
You have decided to invest in stock market.
What is your objective?
Clearly define if it is meant for wealth accumulation (believe no point as you have retired), or for some thrill/ pass time and the same time look for some pocket money?

Don't gamble away your hard saved nesteggs.
Market is not forgiving regardless whether you are highly qualified academically or otherwise.
Forget about your profession you were engaged in prior to retirement, unless you have been in capital market (very unlikely).
Doctors and engineers not necessarily can make good and wise decision in share market. In bear market, even accountants with CA/CPA also lose like nobody's business.

20k?
What can you buy?
To be a day trader?
Better not.
Since you already have cucu, better spend more time playing with your cucu.
If you have worked 17 years overseas with good salary, you should have saved not less than 5m assuming USD 360k per annum.
Use 4m to buy Reits that generate 6% a year, amount to 240k for living expenses.
500k in FD/Saving account for big ticket item when necessary.
500k in HLIB for ecTrade with 0.1% commission, to pass time and get some thrill.
Surely NOT 20k as you have intended.

Most idiotic share buy back operation was carried out by WC on Parkson.
Just check how much WC spent on SBB over the years.
Valuable resources were up to 2.1 billion ringgit wasted merely to support its share price to avoid forced selling of pledged securities.

Another red chip going to holland.
Run while you still can salvage whatever you can before it sinks like any other red chips.

http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/5635049

What else to say ?
Up? No chance!
Down? Yes! Drifting non-stop.........

IoT.
Green Packet?

HELP! HELP! Need help from i3 SIFU to advise on LEADER STEEL!
Author: Chanteckfai | Publish date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017, 10:40 PM

Paging all i3 SIFU! I bought Leader Steel at RM0.715. Now I am burn big big big in Leader Steel!

I feel very shame to post this but I honestly need some expert sifu to help me research Leader Steel to see if this is a good or very bad steel company!

I wonder if any SIFU know anything about this company?

I know this company real boss is Eonmetall boss - Dato Goh Cheng Huat, but the CEO is his wife Datin Tan Pak Say!

The company is suppose to make profit due to high steel price and good mineral demand but turn out is loss!

Anybody expert sifu can explain to me why?






Look at the above posting.
It is very clear now who is lying.
And bad karma will always stick to the one who lies.........

Who lose money in Leader?
I don't lose, but you did.
Why just want to deny?
Can't afford to lose?
Then put your money in FD as what you have suggested.......

Bad karma will stick with those who lies.
Are you lying?
Then bad karma will follow you, young ciku........

Whether how good or how qualify you claim yourself to be, I am sure I did not lose a single sen in Leader Steel, whereas you are are coming close to bankrupt on this counter.

If you think is cheap, keep on buying.
Nobody is going to stop you from making more money, only if you can......

So you believe I am your sifu now?

Curious to find out what qualification you have?
Accounting degree?
Finance degree?
Economics?
CFP?
CIMA?
CA?
CPA?
CFA?

And how long were you actually in the market continuously?
10 years? 15 years?

To be good at market, you need to possess:
1. knowledge
2. skill
3. experience
4. discipline

I believe those who had gone through 1987, 1997/98, 2002, 2008/9 will strive and will not blame market forces, regardless mere presence of certain characters who use to con public in general...............

Your sifu......

What is your age group?

Blog: for newbies in KLSE a word of caution
Nov 22, 2014 08:07 PM | Report Abuse

Let suppose you have 1m cash asset (Share, FD, Bonds, Treasury bills, SA etc excluding EPF). How much risk you you can take?

Some people can stand up to 50% loses (if they are still young <35 yr old)
Some people can only stand up to 20% loses. (may be for 40 -50 yr old)
Some may be 10%, or 5%. (Retired or near to retirement >50 yr old)
It is really depends on your degree of tolerance.

Some may be young, but they have low degree of tolerance. Their temper will fluctuate with market performance. Market good, they got excited. Market down, they will not be able to sleep. This will affect their job performance.

My advice is, if you invest up to 500k, you find that your temper already being jeopardized, reduce to 400k. If still find hard to sleep, reduce further to 300k, 200k,100k etc. There should come to a level whether market up or down doesn't affect performance of your main career anymore. That is your tolerance level.

Some may have 1m cash asset, but not able to stand a 5k loses. These people are not risk taker, share market is definitely not suitable for them. REITs may be most suitable for them as it is low risk with medium gain. Otherwise will be FD or MGS.

Losing money in Leader?
Idiot.
Put money in in FD get you 3.5%.
Is it not better than losing 50% of capital?
Read carefully.
This is your suggestion............

Cannot stand losses?
Go for Reits.........