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2012-11-22 22:34 | Report Abuse

hahaha mat cendana..u got your point there..tp of 0.35 is at 0.6 P/B...as though jcy is worth nothing to OSK. It's a misnomer, and misleading to the investing public when there's a wide range of valuations from 0.35 to 0.85. Who to believe and what to accept?

TPs after Q4 results release..
Kenanga - 0.85 HOLD
CIMB - 0.77 SELL
HLIB - 0.73 HOLD
OSK - 0.35 SELL

Sometimes I would wonder if the analyst is competent enough to arrive at its FV or TP...???? No matter what argument or valuation methods he uses, the standard deviation among peers shouldn't be too wide.

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2012-11-22 22:15 | Report Abuse

agree bro...technically is on the uptrend too

Timeout

2012-11-22 20:36 | Report Abuse

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yup...still the same word bro

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2012-11-22 19:55 | Report Abuse

the problem is that some dungus gave very low fv of 0.35 to jcy...i think that analyst got hidden agenda...

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2012-11-22 19:50 | Report Abuse

i did hint many times bro... but people too bz watching other hot counters like jcy n perisai...i always said abt the stock nesting n flying...

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2012-11-22 19:47 | Report Abuse

wait n c la bro...

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2012-11-22 19:17 | Report Abuse

yup...a sharing n caring corner...

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2012-11-22 19:13 | Report Abuse

also, one thing to note, JCY has a huge share capital of 2.0bn (par value 0.25, Perisai 851.7m (par 0.10), Perdana 495.1m (par 0.50)and KNM 1.49bn (par 1.00). With so huge a share capital base, especially JCY, sometimes it's difficult to push up the price. Thus, a very highly liquid stock is also not good too, making it difficult too push up prices. What more on a selldown? That makes the stock vulnerable to selling pressure when the masses get panicky and start dumping.

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2012-11-22 17:24 | Report Abuse

when there's too much crowd in a particular stock, that's the time to unload...when stocks go unnoticed, that's the time to enter...

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2012-11-22 17:21 | Report Abuse

his magic number is 3...

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2012-11-22 17:19 | Report Abuse

he's waiting for the magic to come ma...

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2012-11-22 17:16 | Report Abuse

staying in sect 6 ma...

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2012-11-22 17:14 | Report Abuse

Posted by buybackma > Nov 22, 2012 04:56 PM | Report Abuse

aiyookkk Perdana is chasing Perisai..come on Perisai one two step forward tomolo please..yezza correct minitrader we need holding power. But sometimes there are stocks that we hold for long term keep droping day by day till halve the price. In the end we have to cut loss also when bad news came out huhu..


...u are right buybackma...we lose here and make in the other...diversification ma...

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2012-11-22 17:12 | Report Abuse

don't lose your pants lol...we are here to share and make...

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2012-11-22 17:07 | Report Abuse

if stock movement reverses and wanna cut loss, give a stop loss and minimise your loss. If u are willing to lose 5%, then cut at this point...or any amount u r willing to swallow...Sometimes people get panicky and let the losses drift lower and lower until they lose our pants...then u c people running naked pissing all over...

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2012-11-22 17:01 | Report Abuse

Perdana made me smiling...

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2012-11-22 16:57 | Report Abuse

Mat Cendan, u staying Kota Damansara leh..we are neighbours lor

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2012-11-22 16:54 | Report Abuse

hurray...well done dear Perdana...u made my day...

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2012-11-22 16:52 | Report Abuse

wondering why and how OSK got a TP of 0.35. Net asset is worth 0.56sen. Don't tell me JCY is worth half its net asset??? If earnings are postive next yr, net asset value will rise too...so why condemn the company and give an unreasonable low valuation?...stock valuations are not all about PE ratios alone even if PER gonna rise next year on lower earnings...OSK gave a crab valuation..

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2012-11-22 16:36 | Report Abuse

In stock mkt investment, we need holding power to survive... some waiting game is required...when lots of people talking too much of a particular stock..that's the time to quit...look at Perdana, it rests and flies quietly and goes unnoticed...

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2012-11-22 16:35 | Report Abuse

In stock mkt investment, we need holding power to survive some waiting game is required...when lots of people talking too much of a particular stock..that's the time to quit...look at Perdana, it rests and flies quietly and goes unnoticed...

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2012-11-22 16:29 | Report Abuse

Posted by Steve Jub > Nov 22, 2012 04:22 PM | Report Abuse

why everyone want to run naked? :D


..gone crazy bcos of the mkt...many people losing pants lor...hahaha

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2012-11-22 16:22 | Report Abuse

in this kind of mkt, lots of people will be naked pissing all over, directionless...

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2012-11-22 16:17 | Report Abuse

Posted by investor2012 > Nov 22, 2012 04:15 PM | Report Abuse

crap this JCY, i'll run naked pissing all the way!


hahaha...laughing lor...

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2012-11-22 16:16 | Report Abuse

we are always at their mercy lol

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2012-11-22 15:42 | Report Abuse

shiok sendili looking at perdana running ...

News & Blogs

2012-11-22 15:40 | Report Abuse

don't quite like their nature of business..hp financing, repossession n the like...better go for other financial stocks...

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2012-11-22 15:37 | Report Abuse

lot of people got burnt...sigh...

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2012-11-22 15:34 | Report Abuse

davesingh has left us at our own perils

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2012-11-22 15:32 | Report Abuse

davesingh MIA oledi..he chickened out...

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2012-11-22 15:26 | Report Abuse

hahaha...perdana continues his journey up...told u oledi...he likes to rest n fly one...

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2012-11-22 12:16 | Report Abuse

Posted by Kent Lee > Nov 22, 2012 12:04 PM | Report Abuse

Mini... care to share how u know its accumulating at 0.71/0.715 pls?... TQ sir

if u have a live online trading screen, now u'll c that 26% of vol done at 0.715 n 30% done at 0.71. I believe they are accumulating and supporting at these levels today...can't say much for tomorrow though

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2012-11-22 11:47 | Report Abuse

i think selling overdone...

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2012-11-22 11:45 | Report Abuse

needs more gas to run leh...dave has yet to fill his tank to the brim...

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2012-11-22 11:43 | Report Abuse

still nesting as usual...like this stock...it rests n flies, rests n flies...

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2012-11-22 11:36 | Report Abuse

Posted by rich kueh > Nov 22, 2012 11:06 AM | Report Abuse

dave, where are you


filling up gas ma...

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2012-11-22 11:36 | Report Abuse

Posted by canu63 > Nov 22, 2012 10:56 AM | Report Abuse

a baby pig is known as a piglet. what is a baby sing known as?


singlet...he likes to cry and yell aloud and sings a lullaby song for his mum...

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2012-11-22 11:27 | Report Abuse

clearing off the heavy contra players on the 18m shares T+4...that's y there's some price weakness today...not to worry if u believe on the fundamentals of the company...

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2012-11-22 11:23 | Report Abuse

Out of the 51m shares traded thus far, more than half or 54% of the volume done at 0.71/0.715. Someone accumulating for Christmas?

News & Blogs

2012-11-22 11:19 | Report Abuse

shooting fire boms...not shooting star...

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2012-11-22 11:14 | Report Abuse

Mat Chendana.. u r probably right...

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2012-11-22 11:13 | Report Abuse

enjoy your break bro...

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2012-11-22 11:01 | Report Abuse

Quoting from HLIB Research..

We have slashed our FY13-14 net profit forecasts by 18.7%
and 14.8% respectively, to reflect higher cost assumptions.
Rating HOLD , TP: RM0.73 
 Positives - high adoption rate of cloud computing and
demand for rich / high density media contents.
 Negatives - Appreciating Ringgit, weak global demand in PC
and SDD as substitute.
Valuation  We downgrade our rating on the stock from BUY to HOLD
after cutting our target price by 40.7% from RM1.23 to
RM0.73 based on the average of US HDD brand
manufacturers’ FY13 P/E of 4.8x (see Figure #5).

What la this analyst??? After slashing estimates and put new TP at 0.73, yet he call a HOLD...price from 0.845 to 0.73 HOLD meh?

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2012-11-22 10:55 | Report Abuse

HLIB Research threw a bomb on JCY...

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2012-11-22 10:50 | Report Abuse

hahaha Harold Huong...buaya eaten by another buaya ma...

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2012-11-22 10:38 | Report Abuse

sometimes analysts give hope only...hope hope n hope only...

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2012-11-22 10:37 | Report Abuse

don't quite like TASec analyst...too bullish..

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2012-11-22 10:31 | Report Abuse

Quoting from the news...

Optimistic on KNM’s growth, TA Securities pegged the group’s target price at RM0.95 per share (previously RM0.48 per share) based on 18 times calendar year 2013 (CY13) price earnings.

Read more: http://www.theborneopost.com/2012/11/22/knm-to-be-back-in-the-black-supported-by-brazilian-operations/