i must ask my ppls to standby for 1.25-1.30 level....looks like a sure thing liao.

no need to understand la. up u buy, down u sell, simple la, today i also buta buta buy many many. wahahahaha.

wait n see.

so otb i have bot a lot of encorp-wa based on your wisdom. now how? cannot even sell, no buyer. wakakakaka.

nordimohd. i just polished my crystal ball and saw it.

why malaysian all so small minded one? cannot accept great ideas by great man. haiz. property prices go up is global issue la, but selling a proton car with 1980 technology and orang utan workmanship and charge u the price of a equivalent German car.

65c

2.00 coming

1.30....

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target 16c, warrant...5c.

ha ha

good news! 1.25 is coming.

chinesetea said after break 87c will goto 1.00, 1.17 then 1.30, how come reverse gear?

can laugh or not?


optimus7
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Posted by optimus7 > May 23, 2014 09:56 PM | Report Abuse

Laugh die me. Got one tea sifu said mitra break 87c wil go above 1.00

calling sifus. where r u?

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correct la, old 200 lot is now appear as 20,000

siew sei gor lor....

Ravi Kumar OTB, thanks for the tips you have been giving me the last month or so. It has been money well spent. I remember when you asked to buy Encorp-WA a couple of weeks ago when it was 69 sen but the price had already run up to 78+ sen in a few days then it went one to 88+ sen. I missed the boat and the price dropped this week, I did not hesitate at all to buy at 62 sen because I did not want to miss the chance again. Am planning to keep at least until either after the financial results are out or a few weeks expecting the price to run up just like Iris did after Felda came in. I am looking for my rolex this weekend. Value for money to spend on 150k WA rather than mother share.
10/05/2014 05:44

Ooi Teik Bee Posted by wt222 > May 10, 2014 08:41 AM | Report Abuse

Mr.OTB,.to pay below rm1,000 a year to get yr good research materials,it seems to be a very good investment......

Ans : I think so. It is a lot of hard work and sacrifice. I do not watch TV, I spend 12 hours a day inclusive of week end to search for good stocks.
Thank you.
10/05/2014 09:56

11/05/2014 13:19

Ravi Kumar I expect the financials to be good! I hope to see RM 1 sooner than I thought
12/05/2014 09:04

DavidMoyes where is the clown boy optimus?
12/05/2014 13:49

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zzzzzzz.........yawn.. my cost 86c. now still make >200%, drop more i buy more.

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goodla, let them think they are privileged and when they go oversea they r laughing stocks lo.

redwed,


yeah.... hahaha. the greatest post in dsonic. by chinesetea.

asked ppls dont sell dsonic at $4.78. now hiding.. it drop to 2.50 1 week later, almost half price.


Posted by redwed > Apr 28, 2014 12:04 AM | Report Abuse

I will try to explain it in a simple way. I hope everyone will humble themselves and listen. As people said, ego can kill and ego can cause you to make wrong judgement. Sometimes we have to think outside of the box and there is always something TA and FA doesn't tell you.

Let's use houses as an example. Assuming we have 100 houses in one area A and another close by area B has 10 houses. All these houses start price is RM50k. Every year 10%people move in and out of area A (10) and area B (1)

If you start buying house in area A, most likely you will get a better price. Agree? Simply because there are more competition. If 9 sell at RM60k and 1 sell at RM70k. Then of course people will pay RM60k and the 1 that sell at RM70 will need to lower his/her price.

If you love to move into area B, only 1 out of 10 house is sold. You are unlikely to get a good price because the seller has no competition. Agree?

Ok, Now let's say government agree that houses in area B is huge and should split into 5 and become 50 houses and still owned by 10 owners and each house sell at RM10k. Assuming some owner sell part of the houses, then the price should be lower but it is still more expensive than area A, People are more attractive to buy the smaller house at RM10k as it is in a good area.

DSONIC is like area B. When it first issues shares, the number of shares is small. After 1:5 split, it is still small. Now there is one key factor that most people never bother to find out is the top 30 share holders own over 90% of the shares.
http://www.insage.com.my/ir/cmn/t01/tsh_t01.aspx?Symbol=5216

These 90% shareholder seldom sell their shares even after the split and first round of bonus. So the split has virtually no effect to the liquidity of the shares.

The remaining 10% is hold by a lot of loyal retailer and I am proudly to be one. Most of us not selling any shares after split. So even the number of shares has increased, The 50 houses is still worth like 10 houses. As more and more people aware of area B, they are willing to put a higher price. It's happening in real life in good area, It's happening to dsonic shares too.

With low free float counters, share price can be up and down quickly. Still not convinced? Go and check Ecoworld and HLCap.

Last week when it raised to 4.87, I agree it was indeed rise without proper fundamental back up and I assume it is because of the CA. I agree various sifu and expert here issue warning and everyone should listen. Most of us were blinded by the greed.

However, with recent few additional announcement, I think we should look it at a different way.

Btw, people always says how much percentage that dsonic has increased since IPO. If you value a share like this, people will never buy shares like public bank, nestle, genting and etc. EPS should be studied and compared with peers.

Another great post from the dsonic forumers. I forgot to jot down his nickname. It may be valuable to our fellow readers here.

optimus7 Told u guys, 20c coming

03/04/2014 17:53

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I m so so so so happy. la la la la. I have changed my buying price from 2.40 to 2.00. I think it is only worth 2.00.

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where frog?

designate means if u buy today, u can only sell next Wednesday. so u can enjoy seeing the stock go 3 limit downs as broker chop heads day after day. possible drop to 1.20 level. if designate.

lol

steelheart u r so funny, u been bashing me like no end in the last 2 days. now u want to trust me? lol

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for the records.


Posted by invest1818 > Apr 4, 2014 10:51 AM | Report Abuse

Optimus I can bet your portfolio sucks is just a deep dive on dsonic whereas I can assure you we are still gaining profit from dsonic. You can save your breathe here and go somewhere else to derive your happiness on seeing other ppl gets harm. This thread was meant to help others to make some passive income and most of us here in this thread takes responsibility on our own action. I personally see nothing wrong with Dsonic financials and I have 100% confident with UncleZ and chinesetea and assamlaksa as well. I did not buy it blindly but I have the same thought as them. You can get your ass somewhere else to promote your happiness on irritating others. You are failure seriously, repent before is too late for you my fren. Good luck to you.

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next week 2.00, counting counting....

hmmmm.....classic

Posted by chinesetea > Apr 2, 2014 04:11 PM | Report Abuse

To be a successful stock picker one must be able to look beyond PE ratio. Peg ratio is more important as well as free cash flow in a company.

Pe ratio is useful to filter out certain kind of stock. If you apply it to technology related stock that is light on asset, you'll probably miss out most of the best stocks in the world including Google.

When you see a high Pe stock keep rising, there are few reasons that market is pricing for. Of course this including driving force from speculators.


1. Forecast of revenue improvements.

So far significant of revenue comes from printing MyKad and passport. This is a threat as the company rely too much of this. However we can feel safe as it is contract based and cannot easily change hands. This can also be turned into opportunity if Dsonic can win more overseas contract. This is a business that never die as long as population is growing and more foreign migrants choose to stay in Malaysia.

The mandatory to change credit card to use one time pin in 2016 will also be a great catalyst.

The company is also diversifying to other business area such as cctv. I am not going to list out all other business they have. Please visit their website.

2. Cost reduction.
When you are in a business, you'll need to deal with cost issues such as operating costs, improve equipment, cost of subcontracting, cost of material. If one can find a magic ingredient to tackle this, net profit will rise significantly.

Datasonic has used significant amount of revenue last year to build assembly plant to reduce the cost of manufacturing the card by as much as 35% end of the year.
http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/highlights/266134-interview-datasonic-embarks-on-expansion-trail.html

When they no longer need to spend the same money this and last year and couple with reduction of 35% cost,
Eps will be improved significantly.

When this happens, Rhb will update their target and everyone will take it by surprise.


Most people including bursa don't understand why Dsonic is so strong and a lot of people still skeptical about the rise, including some respectable columnist. Others just follow the crowd to buy when price rise, play contra to earn few cents and throw in panic when there is slight warning.

I hope you will stay invested wisely and spend more time to read the financial statement and other report and news to stay informed. Without this knowledge, you can easily throw away a golden goose in panic like this morning. I am not going to repeat how much we earn by holding on to the shares here as you should have read it many times.

I don't really care what the price movement daily as I know what it can achieve in few years down the line.

Good luck to those who choose to invest in low Pe stock that is undervalued but no one dare to touch. Mark down your price and let's compare again in a year time. Dsonic has proved you wrong last year. I have no doubt that it will do it again.


Apologies for long message. Feel free if you want to put this in a blog if you don't mind my broken English