Soon those idiots from other counters are flocking to Hevea. Hevea is officially the furniture maker with the biggest market cap since yesterday with the collapse of Evergreen. Our Hevea is also a double-digit profit margin company! So strong and solid. Ha ha!!

Hevea's FA is so solid that I can see its cash-pile is just going to increase RM 20m per each quarter. What is the situation in the world economies now? U have a strong company like Hevea earning above RM20m/qtr with the latest figure of Net profit RM 28.006m so how on earth those idiots don't see this is already a cash-cow?

No dividends is bad to hold for long term. With such massive debts, how do u think the company can give out dividends? By borrowing more? Don't dream!

This is financial markets not pageant or arts. Can't take the heat or criticism then better not participate in the forum. When someone has different opinions than u and speak it out & replied...that is called debate and discussions/exchange of opinions.

Smart investors won't want to get stuck for 12 quarters / 3 years just to break-even with debts lah idiot.

Really idiot....got cash-flow also still need to payback debts lah...bodoh! With that massive debts is just real ugly to the balance sheets.

Those who ever listened to your unfounded advice are suffering already lah. See who is wrong again? Don't u feel ashamed for telling half-truths? Ha ha!!

Told u that Evergreen will collapse due to massive debts with 12 quarters/3 years to break-even and the share price now DOESN'T HAVE ANY KIND OF TECHNICAL SUPPORT hence FREE-FALLING !!

Really an idiot. Is Airasia a manufacturer or exporter? Use sikit ur brain lah

With actions come consequences. This hamyue is just looking for troubles. Ha ha!!

Which idiot keep asking people to buy and hold here? No face better be quiet lah.

Useless! Evergreen will collapse due to its huge debts. I've showed how it does need to work hard for at least 12 quarters or 3 years just to BREAK-EVEN with the MASSIVE DEBTS.

UNDERVALUED is often UNDERPERFORM as well. There are so many stocks listed in Bursa that are stuck in that kind of consolidation and some even fall into DOWNTREND.

See how this idiot still twisting facts. Never admit it also nvm but he continues to ridiculed the intelligence of the readers is the worst.

If one speak based on facts then there is no need to scold others with vulgar words like u. Look back at how u wrote lah. i3 admin is fair and just.

Why u so afraid that I speak about FPGroup? It is simply just an OVERRATED and OVERVALUED company 4.15x times its NTA.

Stop twisting facts. U were misleading and vulgar at the same time. Why didn't i3 admin ban me instead? Facts remain as facts.

This fallen stockraider found new job promoting FL here? Don't bring bad luck to people loh. Ha ha!!

Does the assets that it owns are income-generating assets? If not then it is based on the "growth" stories that it promised on high anticipation. Going forward to future earnings, any hiccups in the earnings will seriously affect the share price directly.

Does FPGroup worth so expensive at current price? I doubt so. NTA is only worth 0.177 mah. Ha ha!!

Share price: 0.735
NTA: 0.177
OVERVALUED 4.15x times

What safety margins do u have when u invest into FPgroup? Low track records available for inspection, not much details are known. Most seasoned investors would stay away from this kind of newly listed company.

When a small hamyue screams out for recognition, he is a typical failed example who is self-comforting.

Hevea not for losers like stockraider. I suggest he sell it if he has because I will pick up his shares. Look at his fallen Evergreen dropped until he doesn't have appetite for lunch later. Ha ha!!

See that i3 admin has banned Dolly's ID because he's using many ID to talk rubbish purposely cheat people. Feel sad that this conman lost his rice bowl due to his stupidity.

BTM's NTA keeps reducing from 0.46 to current 0.21 non-stop all quarters. NTA falling from 2014 until today. Why so teruk? Now price is 0.29 and u still want to buy or hold? U pray hard that it won't fall but it sure will.

This BTM is overvalued loh. Better abandon it.

Look at above the figures loh. Evergreen owed a lot of money and the only way to quickly write-off those debts is to ask shareholders for money. Doing that will cause havoc to shareholders' interests. Most smart ppl know these and rather abandon it. So u better don't continue to cheat people with ur half-truth everyday. Ha ha!!

U are a dried & salted dead fish mah. I tot u ayam mati. LOL

My Hevea is so solid & strong...making me a lot of $. Each sen up is definitely more than what u earn in entire year. Ha ha!!

Going up loh...buying big rounds. I hear 2 losers barking only. LOL

For the past 4 days, the share price of this troubled company with massive debts has fallen non-stop dropping consecutively. Why leh?Dolly, stockraider and saltedfish have no answers? LOL

Stock prices speak for themselves. Ha ha!!

Compare it yourself:

http://disclosure.bursamalaysia.com/FileAccess/apbursaweb/download?id=194981&name=EA_FR_ATTACHMENTS
Hevea
Cash: 128,443,000
Total borrowings: 15,489,000
Total liabilities: 93,118,000

Cash - Total borrowings = 112,954,000
Cash - Total liabilities = 35,325,000

Take the latest 5 quarters results of Net profits:
(28.006m + 17.233m + 15.161m + 20.268m + 25.693m) / 5 qtrs = 21.2722m averagely per qtr
RM 15,489,000 total debts / 21.2722m NP = 0.73 qtr

Take the latest 4 quarters results:
(28.006m + 17.233m + 15.161m + 20.268m) / 4 qtrs = 20.167m averagely per qtr
RM 15,489,000 total debts / 20.167m NP = 0.77 qtr

Remarks: So Hevea's debts are so small according to its own earning power per quarter. Its cash keeps adding up at least RM 20m each qtr. Just 1 qtr is enough to clear out the debts and even after clearing the total liabilities, it has RM 35.325m EXCESS CASH.

http://disclosure.bursamalaysia.com/FileAccess/apbursaweb/download?id=194811&name=EA_FR_ATTACHMENTS
Evergreen
Cash: 160,308,000
Total borrowings: 205,257,000
Total liabilities: 388,027,000

Cash - Total borrowings = (-44,949,000)
Cash - Total liabilities = (-227,719,000)

Take the latest 5 quarters results of Net profits:
(17.483m + 16.88m + 16.459m + 20.619m + 21.029m) / 5 qtrs = 18.494m averagely per qtr
RM 205,257,000 total debts / RM 18.494m NP = 11.1 qtrs to break-even

Take the latest 4 quarters results:
(17.483m + 16.88m + 16.459m + 20.619m) / 4 qtrs = 17.86m averagely per qtr
RM 205,257,000 total debts / RM 17.86m NP = 11.5 qtrs to break-even

Remarks: Evergreen's massive debts are so huge that it needs at least 12 quarters/ 3 years just to break-even with it while its competitors and peers are embarking on expansion dethroning it from being the largest market cap stock. It is unable to clear out the total liabilities that is why it always need to use loans to keep up with business trades, capex & other things. After minus all debts, it doesn't have cash and if it minus all total liabilities it is even troubling with -227.719m amounts owed.

The fallen stock price is a solid evidence. While stockraider is missing, this idiot Dolly can start to dig own grave.

Compare it yourself:

http://disclosure.bursamalaysia.com/FileAccess/apbursaweb/download?id=194981&name=EA_FR_ATTACHMENTS
Hevea
Cash: 128,443,000
Total borrowings: 15,489,000
Total liabilities: 93,118,000

Cash - Total borrowings = 112,954,000
Cash - Total liabilities = 35,325,000

Take the latest 5 quarters results of Net profits:
(28.006m + 17.233m + 15.161m + 20.268m + 25.693m) / 5 qtrs = 21.2722m averagely per qtr
RM 15,489,000 total debts / 21.2722m NP = 0.73 qtr

Take the latest 4 quarters results:
(28.006m + 17.233m + 15.161m + 20.268m) / 4 qtrs = 20.167m averagely per qtr
RM 15,489,000 total debts / 20.167m NP = 0.77 qtr

Remarks: So Hevea's debts are so small according to its own earning power per quarter. Its cash keeps adding up at least RM 20m each qtr. Just 1 qtr is enough to clear out the debts and even after clearing the total liabilities, it has RM 35.325m EXCESS CASH.

http://disclosure.bursamalaysia.com/FileAccess/apbursaweb/download?id=194811&name=EA_FR_ATTACHMENTS
Evergreen
Cash: 160,308,000
Total borrowings: 205,257,000
Total liabilities: 388,027,000

Cash - Total borrowings = (-44,949,000)
Cash - Total liabilities = (-227,719,000)

Take the latest 5 quarters results of Net profits:
(17.483m + 16.88m + 16.459m + 20.619m + 21.029m) / 5 qtrs = 18.494m averagely per qtr
RM 205,257,000 total debts / RM 18.494m NP = 11.1 qtrs to break-even

Take the latest 4 quarters results:
(17.483m + 16.88m + 16.459m + 20.619m) / 4 qtrs = 17.86m averagely per qtr
RM 205,257,000 total debts / RM 17.86m NP = 11.5 qtrs to break-even

Remarks: Evergreen's massive debts are so huge that it needs at least 12 quarters/ 3 years just to break-even with it while its competitors and peers are embarking on expansion dethroning it from being the largest market cap stock. It is unable to clear out the total liabilities that is why it always need to use loans to keep up with business trades, capex & other things. After minus all debts, it doesn't have cash and if it minus all total liabilities it is even troubling with -227.719m amounts owed.

Dolly shout out but...look at what happened to his Evergreen? Downtrend intact and it COLLAPSED so much. Need more to say? Stockraider also shame & shy already...disappeared! LOL

U can see saltedloser always camping in those fallen counters. LOL

U can see saltedloser always camping in those fallen counters. LOL

Hevea is diversifying! More exciting income streams ahead.

Dolly zai, read ur idol Kcchongnz's teaching:

"Cash in balance sheet is a safety buffer when investing, best of all you don't have to pay for it. Two exactly similar companies, one with excess cash and the other none, definitely the one with excess cash is a better company to invest in, no matter how the management uses the cash."

Dolly keeps mocking me about kindergarten level? LOL Look at the share price of Evergreen/Hevea and what did I taught u long ago? Even his beloved Kcchongnz taught the same thing as what I meant. Shame on Dolly who is just defending Evergreen because he's stuck.

For the same amount of money, u can invest in a better faster company than a debt-laden one. Why so stupid get yourself stuck here? No good reasons for u to fight me unless u are just same as Dolly who is deeply stuck in it.

He watched too much Transformers: Revenge of the fallen. Ha ha!!

Having too much debts is a risky game for any companies.

Who is stockraider? U mean the same joker who missed the boat on Hevea. Ha ha!!

Hevea's market cap now 785m while the fallen Evergreen slipped to 758m.

Smart choice. Net cash company and cash keeps adding up. Hevea has very low debts also can deliver double-digit profit margins. The same amount of money spent can yield higher returns here.

If what I've taught and shown since long ago are not good then why is Evergreen's price keep falling while Hevea is trending up? See the facts.

First and foremost, identify which one is better. There are so many better companies but it is just bad that this Dolly preaching the wrong ideas and thoughts to people.

What I've showed briefly ago was based on facts all taken out of the qtr reports. That are no magic numbers or my creations. U can check it yourself. Don't let Dolly fool u with rubbish and offensive talks.

Good stuff no need so much explanations. It is the bad stuff that needs more warnings to fellow investors.

Where is Evergreen's price now? Still dare to talk loudly with rubbish just to defend because u are deeply stuck in it. Does Evergreen not highly indebted?

RM 205,257,000 is small amount? How much net profit does the company earns per quarter? Latest is RM 17.483m/qtr that is under RM 20m per qtr. So how many quarters are needed to break-even with the massive debts?


Take the latest 5 quarters results:
(17.483m + 16.88m + 16.459m + 20.619m + 21.029m) / 5 qtrs = 18.494m averagely
RM 205,257,000 / RM 18.494m = 11.1 qtrs

Take the latest 4 quarters results:
(17.483m + 16.88m + 16.459m + 20.619m) / 4 qtrs = 17.86m averagely
RM 205,257,000 / RM 17.86m = 11.5 qtrs

The above estimation has not even take into consideration of the loan interest charges.

So is that not more than 12 quarters just to BREAK-EVEN with the massive debts?

12 quarters = 3 years!!

A bias person like this Dolly is the reason that people should be careful. No matter what happens to Evergreen, this dolly will always talk good on it. Nothing is ever bad. Now do u see how bias is he?

Hevea's market cap has surpassed that high debt Evergreen

Hevea's market cap has surpassed that highly indebted Evergreen