Raid / popo

and than, there is this thing called margin of safety so ingrained into people brain....pointless to debate.

But , you know where I stand.

raid

you can have opinions ( about people) but you also have to be prudent with facts ( very unfair if you spread damaging untruths).

raid

It was not reported and I not aware......I still think it is not true.

glad so many agree time is important.
An 83 years old man certainly agree

popo

I guess you do like rumor to fact with raider filter.....hahaha

raider
its called prudence. ...especially on third hand information.
anyway...your original sentence was unconditional.

so rumors become facts after filtering by raiders?


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RAIDER COMMENT;
MY FRIEND TOLD ME LOH...!!
IF NOT HOW MUCH ? U TELL ME LAH...!!
ANYHOW...HE BROKE THE LAW MAH...!!

raider

"and got fine from SC to the tune of Rm 1 million loh...!! "

you go way over board when you make false statements....

God knows your true identity and IC.

plane

any good stock operator will reverse director according to circumstances.

Professionals take action
Amateurs become frozen soldiers, chained to the past.

consumers no power
Ahjib and his GST taken all away already

avoid all non essential consumer related stocks

because the qualifications to work in a large organisation is different from being a blogger.




Want_to_know > Jan 1, 2017 04:06 PM | Report Abuse

If true in real life, why IBs' never plan to hire i3 contestants? They should sack their own fund managers.

Investors common mistakes, Koon Yew Yin

read again, Raider

every word is authentic, every word is credible and every word comes from experience.


what you take away is more about You than what is written.

icon

In poker , you either call his bluff or fold.

He says he got full house, I got trips Aces.

so how?

OTB is supposed to be his remisier and share adviser not his keeper.

I think it is cruel to try to stop people from doing things they love...and postings share stuffs in i3 is neither illegal nor immoral.

icon

then go and buy Choo Bee but don't count me in.

Then $ 50k it will be ....except it must work both ways.

Raider pay me $ 50k if he cannot prove himself.

Is KYY a trader or an investor?

I think, a little bit of both.

KYY is a market participant who knows how to optimize his winnings by keeping his winners and cutting off his losers.

A pure trader would not concern himself with eps,
A pure long term investor would not concern himself with timing.


But if people listen carefully , with intelligence and open minded, KYY has a lot to contribute to improving market performance from someone who made it big time.

no wonder KYY cannot tolerate this raider and his broken English.

I got $ 10 here says raider don't have CSC at 90 sen.

this utterly talk nonsense guy is all nuts.

icon

no risk no rewards
higher returns comes from higher risk

you see only what you see
but the unseen is equally important.


For example, OTB portfolio was third from bottom earlier part of the year.

icon

You cannot compare a monopoly money portfolio done by an individual with a model portfolio done by an institution.

The latter has a lot of institutional constraints.

I think
With responsibility comes caution
With caution comes mediocre

They rather hunt in the middle of the pack than on the fridges
It is the way it is.

You laugh, but when the lions come, they laugh.

eagle

to be able to do the stuffs that they love is not called mental maturity

it is called happiness.

someone says i3 like black hole

Once within its orbit cannot escape, not even light or enlightment.

Welcome back to I3

On happiness.

On happiness is doing the things you love, not running away from trouble.
If stress is the problem, destress yourself
If negative comments stress you up, destress your self and move on.

I3 is not meant to change people character
I3 is meant for retirees like you and me who got nothing better to do
i3 is meant to share and to educate , but not to change people character.

If you got poison arrows, just remember, biggest tree get most wind
You cannot change human nature
But you stop taking yourself and taking your opponents too seriously.

They are known things, unknown things, knowable but not known, unknowable but people think they know.
The world cannot be taken too seriously.

Social media like Facebook do not make people happier, Quite often , it is the opposite. This is according to latest Scientific Research. Foruming should be treated similarly.

What makes people truly happy is gratitude and Emptiness....empty the desire to change people character.

TA or Technical Analysis is like vitamin.
You need a little bit to function at the optimum.
Too much is poison to the body
Rudimentary knowledge plus common sense is sufficient.
Some times, truly TA experts who devoted their whole life to study of TA have their body truly poisoned already.


01/01/2017 12:44

It is not about PLP.
It is about balance. About being fair and justice.

This forum has under estimated the good intentions and capability of KYY. The guy is 83 years old already. Its guaranteed his intentions are honorable and he has built up a tremendous fortune from stock market. Surely in a forum such as this , it is worth the while to examine this man more closely and take what is good...and not dismiss out of hand because of some bad decisions.

I think 83 years old KYY is competent enough to recognise who are competent and who are not, PLP or otherwise. You cannot hoodwink an 83 years old successful guy. No where to hide except with real competence.

One more thing, I am not here to sell my services or look for students, or sell subscriptions or honors or titles.

As I say, i3 is not meant to change a person's character. Maybe KYY was too idealistic. i3 was meant for retirees such as myself who got nothing better to do.

I am very relaxed about this thing...not up tight like that OTB because I do not take myself and my time in i3 very seriously. But I do express my opinions freely and could not be bothered by any thing or anybody in i3.

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Icon8888 > Jan 1, 2017 09:29 AM | Report Abuse

Apart from his PLP activities that irked me, I always find stockmanmy to be somebody with above average IQ

One day when he start acting like a man and stop PLP, maybe we will become good friends

Glad I have a chance to elaborate.
Dynamic Investing is for real money with a chance to trade. Its Dynamic, not static.
This competition is monopoly money , cannot trade.

For this competition, I was tempted to submit a portfolio of OG penny stocks and penny warrants. Feast or famine. Number one or number last.

This final portfolio is inspired by that "stock ocean guy" who submitted what I thought is a well chosen mix of excellent management, year highs and year lows, high priced and low priced shares but all at investible levels. If Air Asia do well, he got a good chance, , if not, it is still a portfolio with a lot of thoughts put into it.

I added 4 more stocks that given 1 year horizon, could do well, each from different sectors but no penny stock.

At the back of my mind is about constructing a portfolio not just to win this thing.....but to show the construction of a diversified portfolio of good business, good management and decent numbers. I think it is also being responsible in a public forum.

I cannot tell one year in advance but I think it is a balanced portfolio of good companies.



Posted by OrlandoOil > Dec 31, 2016 08:51 PM | Report Abuse

Which part of this portfolio is dynamic investing?

In the case of Marcus Chan CFA

He didn't play the game properly and was fired.

Their clients are institutions.
They just wanted market performance/

higher returns comes from higher risk

what is 20X PE?

its nothing if profit doubles...

furthermore, this is a competition isn't it?

you want a double bagger in a competition. You can only get double baggers if you buy unnoticed stocks. and they do well financially.

other than Xing Quan, there is no evidence KYY ever buys speculative shares with no substance.
His selections are liquid, best in its class ( sector ). Liquidity is very important.

Icon8888 > Dec 31, 2016 01:59 PM | Report Abuse

Of course, it is understood that if you use margin to load up sumatec, Asdion, etc , you are seeking death

KYY uses unrealised profits to buy other shares.
In theory, there is no limit to his margin account as long as his shares keep going up.

FB don't add to happiness.
Latest scientific research.

I don't have a FB account.

with noble intentions

CharlesT > Dec 31, 2016 01:54 PM | Report Abuse

Mr koon mayb too proud of himself and think he can manipulate i3 readers as he wants....ask buy they buy ask sell they sell...

agreed
KYY got margin call earlier this year, but the margin calls only forced him to realise some unrealised profits.

Icon8888 > Dec 31, 2016 01:31 PM | Report Abuse

your uncle's friends who went bankrupt were either gamblers or sochais, that is all I can say

Mr Koon may be a bit too idealistic and think i3 can be used to change people character.
the correct use of i3 is like me....i3 is for retirees like me who got nothing better to do.
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gohku Mr Koon already retired, he need to do something to make use of his free time.
He meant no harm.

icon is ever the diplomat.

but in my dictionary, the margin of safety is illusionary, a sleeping pill.

the dictum always applies, risk = reward.
Your uncle is prevention focused. My uncle Koon is Promotion focused.

gohku > Dec 31, 2016 01:01 PM | Report Abuse

Mr Stockmammy, you must be joking. My uncle a financial director told me not to use margin when invest.

the authors of foreign books play in the largest ocean, have unlimited capital , patience and hundreds of stocks.
We play in a small lake with limited capital and only few stocks in portfolio.




Posted by gohku > Dec 31, 2016 12:52 PM | Report Abuse
Please explain so that i can learn.

get a margin account ready and loot next time.


PlsGiveBonus > Dec 30, 2016 09:16 PM | Report Abuse

Buy only when they get margin calls
:)
See Mycron can rebound so fast and furious which you will most likely took years to make this much gain in a short term.

Thank you, ramada
I will accept your kind offer with gratitude.
I had not intended to participate until I was inspired by the portfolio of that "share market no border guy"
A well chosen portfolio I can put real money into.

In fact, I think his portfolio is better than my final one.,and he has a higher chance of superior returns. I have merely added 4 more stocks to make it more diversified.

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Tan KW, can you do me a favor. I'm willing to give my seat to stockmanmy. I ranked third in participant list, thank you.

Here is stockmanmy's stock pick.

AirAsia 12%
AAX 12%
Scientex 12%
Sam 12%
LeonFB 12%
SCGM 10%
CSC Steel 10%
Magni Tech 10%
AEON Credit 10%

I will create a self managed portfolio for my own.

Dear Mr Tan.... I will participate .

The portfolio is

AirAsia 12%
AAX 12%
Scientex 12%
Sam 12%
LeonFB 12%
SCGM 10%
CSC Steel 10%
Magni Tech 10%
AEON Credit 10%

Posted by 股海無涯 > Dec 30, 2016 04:53 PM | Report Abuse

Dear Tan KW,
i would like participate,
my stock pick as follow:
Airasia -30% @2.29
AAX -15%@0.36
Scientex -15%@6.70
SAM -15%@4.90
LEONFB -25%@0.465

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I would not mind putting real money in this portfolio.
a good mix , got good chance it works...and if not, well, the stocks are chosen at good levels.

best treat this as game of monopoly money

Being such a high profile personality and bottom three at one time, I don't think so .....



Posted by Icon8888 > Dec 30, 2016 11:01 PM | Report Abuse

At the beginning of the year, he was scolded like a dog. I think those people owes him an apology

otb

Its almost 10 years since the last financial crisis. In the last 10 years, many many stocks have seen their prices multiplied. Many many investors have seen their shares values multiplied.
They don't have to have the same shares as you. They just have to remain invested.
And so, I see you are driven, you are hard working, you bite and don't let go, and you cannot tolerate criticisms...even when your portfolio is down 20% earlier in the year.
Stock God is a title so important to you.
But can you pursue the title and be less stressed?


Are you aware that they are also thousands and thousands of housewives whose shares have also multiplied in the last 10 years because they dumb dumb invested in the right shares ( there are many many such shares)?

otb

I think you are mentally sick...go see a professional.
They may be able to help you. I cannot.
Having said, I must add, you do have some credits ...

tenacious and don't let go, like a bull dog.

I guess that would be necessary for multiple baggers, some thing I have never been able to do.

still...your intolerance for criticism is your own doing and your own problem, no one else. Stress will kill you sooner than you want.

otb

I think you are mentally sick...go see a professional.
They may be able to help you. I cannot.


============Ans : None.

Attack almost every writer especially Icon8888 and me.
I have no mercy for this type of person. Someone drew the cartoons to attack me to go to hell is gone. He is the next one who did the same thing to me. I will remember him for life.
Thank you.

accounting principles are the same. But KLSE is not Wall Street.
The books are written are written for Wall Street by Wall Streeters.

KYY and Dynamic Investing is KLSE ters for KLSE.

talk nuts.
books for fund managers with unlimited money for Wall Street

we...in KLSE and small retailers in Malaysia.

different challenges, different needs, different constraints and different limiting factors.

being impressed by foreign books is not a bad thing per se.....but ignoring reality and the man and his decisions is for losers.

The reality....opportunity cost of our decisions, who we are and the likely outcome of our decisions.

Dynamic Investing with KYY Golden Rule can transform your life for the better. Don't leave home without it.


Dull is not the answer, exciting is not the answer....the answer is in correct choice of opportunity cost of choices.

Analysts have an easier task. They can just say BUY because they like what they see. As investors, we have to weight the opportunity costs.

so, how to do it?? stay tuned.








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SPECIAL ADVISE TO 3ii

Continue from John Neff contributed by Calvin

6. "If you can find a dull business that makes money, it is less likely to attract competition."
Raider comment;In order to do better u must dear to venture to new territory or area that people don like or area that people fear ,area that people never heard of b4 and the stock that people hated & depised mah......!!
U cannot always stick to Bluechips like Nestle, Pet Dag, Dlady, Tenaga etc mah....if u do that ur return will be common thus standard return bcos every body will be doing the same thing bcos quite common & natural to do that mah....!!
This strategy of buying into dull, unloved, neglected,feared and depised stocks and perform successfully is also confirmed by the famous Guru Peter Lynch loh...!!
It is this dull , fear, depise and neglected area where u can find the greatest value for your investment loh...!!
So start digging on all the dull stocks....see whether can uncovered some Gems loh....!!