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2016-12-18 22:40 | Report Abuse
How to manipulate when say buy on Saturday, say sell on Sunday?
Anyway....the few lots it can actually influence is too insignificant to even talk about.
WhiteMagic
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Posted by WhiteMagic > Dec 18, 2016 09:54 PM | Report Abuse
...it's not changed his mind...it's actually manipulation!
2016-12-18 22:31 | Report Abuse
Puteh like all KYY critics can remain frog in well the rest of your lives , it does not bother me....but it's a pity because KYY is a victim not a sinner.
2016-12-18 22:21 | Report Abuse
Mike
Frog in well like you will not know how eagles like KYY fly and see.
Stop blaming, start learning the ropes.
KYY never intentionally set out to mislead people ....
But that is how the market is..
It's mysterious and things happen fast.
2016-12-18 22:16 | Report Abuse
KC
I am a CPA, the articled clerk type. Had always been self taught.
Stock market the same.....people should and can train themselves .....a CFA like that KYY nephew also no use with all the theoretical knowledge.
2016-12-18 22:10 | Report Abuse
I wrote this sentence everyday
That money is necessary condition for happiness but gratitude is a necessary and sufficient condition for happiness..
I would not call what KYY do as share manipulation. I think there are legal definitions for share manipulation which is not what KYY do.
KC.....the moment you wrote this thread and post it, you have anticipate any thing that comes after that. That is how it goes.
Whatever I write I always anticipate any thing comes next......but never expected people say I am a fake accountant.
2016-12-18 21:50 | Report Abuse
KC
My guiding principles.....
I love the stock market....it is exciting and fills my life.
KYY has told the story of the CFA nephew who lost a lot of money in a short time.....after he became a CFA.
See the point?
2016-12-18 21:44 | Report Abuse
Put what and mike
KYY through his generosity shares with you the necessity of decisive actions.
Professionals take actions, amateurs become frozen soldiers.
2016-12-18 21:41 | Report Abuse
While yf and KC debating about moats, KYY already made million with pivotal moments and cut loss.
That is why I am interested in the human being.
2016-12-18 19:38 | Report Abuse
I guess this thread needs this response.
http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/koonyewyinblog/111962.jsp
winner buys me lunch.
2016-12-18 19:13 | Report Abuse
sc
OTB is a successful and hardworking remisier.
don't treat him like a God. His head too big already.
2016-12-18 19:10 | Report Abuse
who did not tell the truth?
I think Top Glove has been very transparent.
2016-12-18 18:53 | Report Abuse
cheeky
better still. My lectures are free. They say the best way to learn is writing and teaching.
2016-12-18 18:43 | Report Abuse
kc
one mountain higher than another mountain?
doesn't matter.
I belong to the school that says rudimentary knowledge of FA and TA enough to be billionaire. Mine opinion is based in the real world, not in ivory towers.
I belong to the school that says the man and his decisions is more important to the final outcomes, the man and his decision is better than 20 formulas and 20 accounting ratios.
I wrote about the man ( the men behind successful decisions , not just KYY) here...
http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/forum/600111929.jsp
but people not interested.
people wants tips from TA and FA experts...I call them losers...can or cannot?
2016-12-18 18:07 | Report Abuse
I find the subject fascinating.
CharlesT > Dec 18, 2016 05:10 PM | Report Abuse
Then y u plp the oldman everyday?
2016-12-18 18:06 | Report Abuse
Magni vs Prlexus....
just studied this recently.
Depends on time horizon.
less than 1 year...Magni wins
more than 1 year...Prlexus wins.
Prlexus is ambitious, many plans, but in short term the eps dilution from rights issue is tremendous, short term bottomline may also be affected ...Prlexus China operation is ??? people likes Prlexus because by end of next year, it will be fully integrated with own fabric manufacturing.
I have sold my Prlexus for Magni/
so, KC, i didn't use any spreadsheet, or k or g or any fancy stuffs.
we will see.
2016-12-18 17:49 | Report Abuse
Donald Trump surely is the most empty tong and make the loudest noise.
The narcissist wins.
2016-12-18 17:38 | Report Abuse
kc
after X number of years, how is your track record / wealth compared to KYY.?
2016-12-18 17:23 | Report Abuse
sad nobody interested in the man behind the decision.
no need advanced FA, advanced TA, rudimentary knowledge of FA and TA enough already.
2016-12-18 16:51 | Report Abuse
amazing how people jump to conclusions.....like that OTB thinks I am after his job.
I have no such intention, no such desire I don't want additional stress in my life.
I post to pass time, some times when I am interested, feel like it, I write articles.
2016-12-18 16:30 | Report Abuse
golden boy
that is a misrepresentation.
but never mind.....
you should read his writings for what it is......and use in in some other occasions......
your timing can be screwed up if you follow blind blind.
y Goldenblue > Dec 18, 2016 04:17 PM | Report Abuse
RM3.30
KYY asks you to buy, you must sell.
RM2.50
KYY asks you to sell, you must buy.
After split, RM0.90
KYY asks you to sell, you must buy,
After split, RM0.98
KYY asks you to buy, then you must .................
ha ha ha ha ha
2016-12-18 16:24 | Report Abuse
I tell you already I don't work for KYY...and no such intention
I don't work for anybody for well over 20 years already.
by pisanggoreng > Dec 18, 2016 04:18 PM | Report Abuse
stockmanmy
I believe that,
2016-12-18 16:23 | Report Abuse
KYY does not intentionally misleads anyone.
But , he is decisive, he is fast , and can change his mind fast and he bets big.
You can take that as truism.
2016-12-18 16:15 | Report Abuse
You think I work for KYY? lol
no I don't.
but I think his critics underestimates the guy.
I think KYY is a very good investor / trader.
pisanggoreng > Dec 18, 2016 04:05 PM | Report Abuse
stockmanmy,
it is not easy to work for KYY
2016-12-18 15:48 | Report Abuse
beware, killers with a smile
die already still don't know why
2016-12-18 15:42 | Report Abuse
genuine thank you is called gratitude
fake thank yous are irritating.
2016-12-18 15:30 | Report Abuse
100% will lose money playing contra over one year.....I think one year long enough to prove the point
CharlesT > Dec 18, 2016 01:12 PM | Report Abuse
Contra kakis 100% lose money?? U better clarify with duit,rchi,hng33 etc before u say so
2016-12-18 15:27 | Report Abuse
KYY changed his mind. Can or cannot?
eagle71 > Dec 18, 2016 02:57 PM | Report Abuse
KYY asked people to buy Gad
2016-12-18 15:17 | Report Abuse
I do not like OTB fake thanks yous
I think no thank you better than fake thank you.
pisanggoreng > Dec 18, 2016 02:49 PM | Report Abuse
otb is a gentleman
2016-12-18 15:14 | Report Abuse
I like calvin because Calvin never call me a fake accountant.
2016-12-18 15:12 | Report Abuse
who doesn't?
they call it games people play.
but certainly not as abusive not as rude not as arrogant as the top two internet sifus around here.
VenFx > Dec 18, 2016 03:06 PM | Report Abuse
The problem is u like to tweaking on facts, and trying to blur the readers with your half truth and half backed comments.
2016-12-18 15:01 | Report Abuse
noby
12 formulas and 20 accounting ratos do not make one a better investors.
finally, it is still the man and his decisions.
people underestimates KYY.
I don't complicate things
I try to simplify things
2016-12-18 14:35 | Report Abuse
KYY critics underestimates KYY....that I can tell you.
2016-12-18 14:33 | Report Abuse
noby
I found nothing to disagree there.
know thy self is the number one rule for successful investing.
2016-12-18 14:07 | Report Abuse
so nobody can appreciate the development of the self?
nobody can appreciate the importance of the man in the equation?
2016-12-18 14:04 | Report Abuse
OTB hates me....but I don't hate OTB.
I just hate his rudeness, his arrogance with his fake thank yous.
no thank you is better than fake thank you.
2016-12-18 14:02 | Report Abuse
why you all so rude to my calvin.?
I think he is the most unrudest guy around here.
2016-12-18 13:59 | Report Abuse
every fund manager goes through the same training as KC does. But look at the mutual fund performances. You satisfied with those? What makes you think you are better than them in their game?
You want to out perform them, you got to play by a different set of rules....and the set of rules is the same set of rules used by all successful entrepreneurs....whether accountants or engineers or char gui teow man.
2016-12-18 13:44 | Report Abuse
and I think successful investors and traders have to at least read the annual reports and the announcements and understand them. If you don't read the AR, it is difficult to buy enough to make real money.
2016-12-18 13:36 | Report Abuse
Well...if you are the prevention focused people, those types satisfied by mutual fund returns, go do what KC teaches.
If you want the stock market to make a difference....better to develop your business sense, your sense of timing, take calculated risks, use margin accounts, and the golden rule for stock selections is a sound one ( with some personal tailoring to suit your own taste)....like I said, pivotal moments are the 1% time, you can make a difference...99% of a stock life, ask sifus also no use.
my lectures free one.
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KC...In my opinion, it is better to follow a well-established and proven investing strategies backed by academic research, well documented success, and plausible reasoning to build long-term wealth.
2016-12-18 13:05 | Report Abuse
contra kakis 100% lose money , even in bull market
by paperplane2016 > Dec 18, 2016 12:22 PM | Report Abuse
I bet 90% will lose money next yr. Best performer perhaps are 100% fixed deposits at 4%. Hahahaha.
2016-12-17 22:51 | Report Abuse
Ha ha ha
2016-12-17 18:20 | Report Abuse
cheated
its called pivotal moments. Its the exceptions that makes rules, any rules even more interesting.
2016-12-17 17:29 | Report Abuse
OTB...no worries, there are other people reading.
2016-12-17 17:23 | Report Abuse
OTB
I bot Gadang at 91.5, your client first bot at 88.5, that is one day later. His pivotal moment more accurate than me.
But, I have no doubt know what I am doing, . I have seen nothing to change my mind.
2016-12-17 17:13 | Report Abuse
otb
I don't know whether you lie or not,
but your business sense and timing all screwed up already.
I think , like your client, you need to read about pivotal moments.
2016-12-17 16:47 | Report Abuse
Pivoting moment and cut loss concept
Koon Yew Yin 17th Dec 2016
GADANG: Pivoting moment
The Gadang price chart shows the pivoting or turning point of its trend reversal was 88.5 sen. It dropped from a high of 132 sen which is equivalent to Rm 3.30 before the corporate exercise of bonus shares and warrant and share split. The price dropped 43.5 sen from 132 to 88.5 sen.
I have started 10 days ago buying Gadang at 88.5 sen and hope to gain 43.5 sen which is 43.5 divided 88.5 = 49% profit. As you know, Gadang started to drop when it announced its 1st quarter reduced profit of 6.5 sen eps on 27th Oct and most investors are expecting a better result for the 2nd quarter which will be announced before the end of January 2017. I expect Gadang price will continue to go up until it announces its 2nd quarter result.
The last closing price on 16th Dec was 98 sen, a gain of 9.5 sens, a gain of 11% in 10 days.
I have to decide when I should start selling to make profit.
MYCRON: Pivoting moment
The Mycron price chart shows the pivoting or turning point from down to up trend was 81sen on 7th or 8th Dec. It started dropping from Rm 1.16 per share. The high and low difference is Rm 1.16 – 81 sen = 35 sen. I started to buy it at 81 sen hoping that it will recover to Rm 1.16 a gain of 35 divided by 81 = 43%.
The last closing price on 16th Dec was 94 sen, a gain of 13 sen.
I have to decide when I should start selling to make profit.
My cut loss concept: is different from the FA & TA experts. As I continue to buy any share, the price will continue to go higher naturally. I will cut loss as soon as the price drops more than 10% of my last buying price. In this way, I am sure of making money.
As I said I will start buying at the pivoting or turning moment. But our most expert chartists would only recommend buy when the share crosses the 80 or 200 day moving average when the price has already gone up much higher. They will not buy even if its financial analysis is excellent because they want to be sure that it is really moving north. But by the time they recommend cut loss, I would have sold to pocket my profit.
Conclusion:
What I said above is like blowing my own trumpet, very boastful. Luckily I told James Ong, my assistant what I did. In fact, one smart investor, under the pseudonym Stockmanmy wrote his article where he described what I did in i3investor.
If you are interested you can find the article in i3investor as follow:
“ so you also want to become value investor (9) ? Pivotal moments and cut loss
Author: stockmanmy | Publish date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016, 04:58 PM “
Many of friends asked me why I did not buy Mycron while I was buying CSC Steel aggressively. Luckily I did not buy Mycron because CSC Steel is a much better stock basing on basic fundamentals. Why should I buy a not so good stock?
Being the largest CRC producer in Malaysia has the several advantages. It can dictate the selling price of its products and all the smaller competitors have to follow because it can easily lower the selling price, being the cheapest producer, to kill the small competitors.
It can also save cost in buying larger quantity of raw material at any one time. Moreover, it can also save cost of transport which is an important consideration.
All I said seems like I am boasting but it is true. Although I am not a religious person, it seems there is an invisible hand constantly directing me what to do.
All I can say is my luck, I am lucky. The Roman philosopher Zennca said quote “luck is when preparation meets opportunity”
2016-12-17 15:48 | Report Abuse
ven....it seems KYY has benefited from my articles, why not you?
Blog: Does the “Golden Rule” Investing works kcchongnz?
2016-12-18 22:45 | Report Abuse
Yi
Why scare of some abusive posters?
I no fear.
It is my opinion, KYY is a victim, not a sinner
KYY could not take it
But I can.