Posted by qqq3 > 2019-01-20 13:29 | Report Abuse

winning more than 100,000 souls in China, Vietnam, Thailand, Burma, Taiwan, the Phillipines, Malaysia, Singapore & Indonesia.....
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all about winning isn't it to u guys.....

Posted by qqq3 > 2019-01-20 13:30 | Report Abuse

cal....those days are over...This is a century for Asians.....

Posted by calvintaneng > 2019-01-20 13:35 | Report Abuse

I Remember John Sung
William E. Schubert

http://www.hograce.org/eng/document/Schubert/

Posted by Sslee > 2019-01-20 15:41 | Report Abuse

Dear Calvintaneng
Human being is able to rule the planet earth because we are the only species that able to use our limitless mind to imagine and hence able to inspire (thro’ story telling, writing and speech) to unite us in thousand, hundred thousand, million or billion for better or for worse. The same imagination helps us in discovering many theories of physic, chemistry and biology for the advancement of science and for invention that help us to have a better life. Our imagination helps us to create the rule of god (heaven and hell) and rule of law so that our conducts are complied with certain rule for mutual benefit and humanity. Our imagination helps us to create value in piece of paper thus create value and commerce. Our conscience helps to guide us to be ethical and finally the vastness of universal and our inescapable final destination death helps us to have humility.

https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/Sslee_blog/177025.jsp
What good is faith/worship without sacrifice/good deeds? If only everyone practiced their faiths by good deeds (Love God thus love everyone irrespective of their race, culture and belief) and not just words/worships then for sure we can create heaven on this life and on planet Earth. What good can faith delivery when it condemns all those non-believers as sinners beyond salvation and destined to be in hell?
Why the need to condemn capitalist when china socialism economic system practiced by Chairman Mao had consigned billion of his people to poverty and starvation (Hell in earth). Please give credit where credit is due to China Communist party ever since Chairman Deng open door policy and capitalism economy policy with China Characteristics has lifted billion out of poverty.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-46588650
Why the church is so obsessed with their faith and felt the need to spread their faith when they are pitting believer and non believer by their faith of afterlife (Heaven and Hell). Why their faith insists in only grateful and thankful to the one and only and disregards all human contribution and sacrifice by our parents, government afford and our own hard-work so that we can have a better life in this life and believe that we deserve to be in heaven after death if there are one base on our own merit/faith. Shouldn’t we encourage meritocracy system and condemn a system base on supremacy?
I rest my case

Thank you

Posted by calvintaneng > 2019-01-20 17:20 | Report Abuse

Dragon,

I am a nobody compared to Dr John Sung

It's like a little candle comparing to the sun

Posted by calvintaneng > 2019-01-20 17:27 | Report Abuse

Sslee

Dr Sung refers to the richman when he spoke about capitalist who has only focus on the earth. A person whose eyes cannot look up to the realities of higher things above. But wholly fixed on earthly temporal things.

AND HE mentioned that it was only after death that he "in hell lifted up his eyes" to see finally, but too late.

Posted by calvintaneng > 2019-01-20 17:33 | Report Abuse

As to sacrifice all can see John Sung's life recorded in his 40 diaries, published in a book called THE JOURNAL ONCE LOST.

I just finished this more than 500 pp book.
My 3rd reading

THE Person who sacrificed the very life of life for us all is Jesus Christ

Through His Shed Blood on the Cross is the forgiveness of our sins

Salvation is not by human effort, work or merit.
NO one can be saved by good works.
Salvation is by receiving the Free Offer of Pardon in Jesus Christ's substitutionary death on our behalf

THE message is Jesus died for you, me and everybody in the whole wide world for time past, time now and for forever

Posted by calvintaneng > 2019-01-20 17:42 | Report Abuse

Dragon,

Many Churches like the Bible Presbyterian Churches, Pasir Panjang Christ Church, Jesus Saves Mission, Chin Lien Bible college, Far Eastern Bible College and many other Churches could be traced back to Dr John Sung's visit to Singapore

In Sibu, Sarawak, the majority of Chinese there are Christians instead of buddhist

THE reason was Many Many Chinese became Christians during the Evangelistic Meetings of John Sung there more than 70 years ago.
THE fruits remain till today in Sibu, Sarawak

Posted by qqq3 > 2019-01-20 17:55 | Report Abuse

calvintaneng > Jan 20, 2019 05:42 PM | Report Abuse

THE reason was Many Many Chinese became Christians during the Evangelistic Meetings of John Sung there more than 70 years ago.
THE fruits remain till today in Sibu, Sarawak
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yes , very successful when people have nothing, not even a shirt on their back and u have Bible in one hand and gun in the other.....

times have changed.

Posted by calvintaneng > 2019-01-20 17:57 | Report Abuse

Dragon
According to the Bible few people believe in the truth.

IN Noah's time after warning people for 120 years only 8 persons entered the ark(ship) and got saved from drowning. The whole mankind in his time perished.

When Sodom and Gomorah were destroyed by fire only 3 persons took heed to escape... Lot and his 2 daughters. The rest all perished in fire

So shall it be in the 2nd Coming of Jesus.

Majority will reject salvation. So don't expect all to turn to the truth.

Only a remnant will be saved.

Posted by calvintaneng > 2019-01-20 18:00 | Report Abuse

Make very sure you are among the remnant

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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-01-20 18:00 | Report Abuse

cal

stock market and Bible don't mix.

no wonder u hold to Insas...

Posted by qqq3 > 2019-01-20 18:01 | Report Abuse

I don't need licence to kill...I kill first report later.

Posted by calvintaneng > 2019-01-20 18:05 | Report Abuse

No. Kong Hee used unbiblical method.

Read this www.inspiretopray.com

Posted by calvintaneng > 2019-01-20 18:14 | Report Abuse

Times have changed?

Maybe.

BUT these things are still the same

1. Man is a fallen creature. Dead in sin unless God imparts new life to him or he is doomed for hell. Religion cannot save mankind

2. Jesus she'd Blood will for ever be efficacious

3. HEAVEN IS A PREPARED PLACE FOR A PREPARED PEOPLE

4. ALL WHO LIVE IN SIN WILL DIE AND END IN HELL

5. THE MESSAGE IS OF UTMOST IMPORTANT

CHRIST JESUS CAME INTO THE WORLD TO SAVE SINNERS

AND YOU SHALL CALL HIS NAME JESUS,

FOR HE SHALL SAVE HIS PEOPLE FROM THEIR SINS.

JESUS DID NOT COME TO TEACH YOU HOW TO BE GOOD. JESUS CAME TO DIE FOR YOUR SINS ON THE CROSS AND TO SAVE YOU

Posted by calvintaneng > 2019-01-20 18:17 | Report Abuse

Believe that He died for you.
Receive Him into your heart by calling Him
Confess Him before men boldly

If you are ashamed of him now he will be ashamed of you when he comes back the 2nd time

Posted by Sslee > 2019-01-20 18:21 | Report Abuse

Dear all,
The ultimate sacrifice/good deeds without expectation as epitomes’ by Saint Mother Teresa of Calcutta devoting her whole life caring for the sick, the homeless and the poorest of the poor in the slum of Calcutta.
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Mother_Teresa

I cited her quote below to reflect her thought of humaneness, love, selflessness, devotion, compassion, empathy, sacrifice, suffering, pain, loss, darkness, hopelessness, despair, dead and question the absent of god’s mercy.
• I see God in every human being. When I wash the leper's wounds, I feel I am nursing the Lord himself. Is it not a beautiful experience?
• Don't look for big things, just do small things with great love....The smaller the thing, the greater must be our love.
• If I ever become a Saint — I surely be one of "darkness". I will continually be absent from Heaven — to light the light of those in darkness on earth.
• One day I met a lady who was dying of cancer in a most terrible condition. And I told her, I say, "You know, this terrible pain is only the kiss of Jesus — a sign that you have come so close to Jesus on the cross that he can kiss you." And she joined her hands together and said, "Mother Teresa, please tell Jesus to stop kissing me"
• They say people in hell suffer eternal pain because of the loss of God – they would go through all that suffering if they had just a little hope of possessing God. In my soul I feel just that terrible pain of loss, of God not wanting me, of God not being God, of God not really existing (Jesus, please forgive my blasphemies, I have been told to write everything). That darkness that surrounds me on all sides. I can’t lift my soul to God – no light or inspiration enters my soul. I speak of love for souls, of tender love for God, words pass through my words [sic, lips], and I long with a deep longing to believe in them! What do I labour for? If there be no God—there can be no soul.—If there is no soul then Jesus—You also are not true... Jesus don't let my soul be deceived—nor let me deceive anyone. In the call You said that I would have to suffer much.—Ten years—my Jesus, You have done to me according to Your will—and Jesus hear my prayer—if this pleases You—if my pain and suffering—my darkness and separation gives You a drop of consolation—my own Jesus, do with me as You wish—as long as You wish, without a single glance at my feelings and pain... I beg of You only one thing—please do not take the trouble to return soon.—I am ready to wait for You for all eternity.

Thank you

Posted by calvintaneng > 2019-01-20 19:20 | Report Abuse

There is a difference between do good works for salvation and doing good works because of gratefulness

THE Christian does not do good work to save himself

Because by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified. For all have come short of the glory of God

So a Christian is saved because he accept the full forgiveness of his sins when he believes with his whole heart that Jesus died on his behalf

AND AFTER he is saved he continues to do good deeds because of his gratitude to God

Posted by calvintaneng > 2019-01-20 19:23 | Report Abuse

So doing good deeds to be saved is wrong
But doing good deeds because of gratefulness is correct.

Only in Christianity is the 'free gift' of salvation in Jesus Christ

Posted by calvintaneng > 2019-01-20 19:29 | Report Abuse

New International Version
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God--

New Living Translation
God saved you by his grace when you believed. And you can't take credit for this; it is a gift from God.

English Standard Version
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,

Berean Study Bible
For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not from yourselves; it is the gift of God,

Berean Literal Bible
For by grace you are saved through faith, and this not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,

New American Standard Bible
For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;

King James Bible
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Christian Standard Bible
For you are saved by grace through faith, and this is not from yourselves; it is God's gift--

Contemporary English Version
You were saved by faith in God, who treats us much better than we deserve. This is God's gift to you, and not anything you have done on your own.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
For you are saved by grace through faith, and this is not from yourselves; it is God's gift--

International Standard Version
For by such grace you have been saved through faith. This does not come from you; it is the gift of God

NET Bible
For by grace you are saved through faith, and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God;

New Heart English Bible
for by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
For it is by his grace that we have been saved through faith, and this faith was not from you, but it is the gift of God,

GOD'S WORD® Translation
God saved you through faith as an act of kindness. You had nothing to do with it. Being saved is a gift from God.

New American Standard 1977
For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;

Jubilee Bible 2000
For by grace are ye saved through faith and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God,

King James 2000 Bible
For by grace are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

American King James Version
For by grace are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

American Standard Version
for by grace have ye been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;

Douay-Rheims Bible
For by grace you are saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, for it is the gift of God;

Darby Bible Translation
For ye are saved by grace, through faith; and this not of yourselves; it is God's gift:

English Revised Version
for by grace have ye been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Webster's Bible Translation
For by grace are ye saved, through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Weymouth New Testament
For it is by grace that you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves. It is God's gift, and is not on the ground of merit--

World English Bible
for by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,

Young's Literal Translation
for by grace ye are having been saved, through faith, and this not of you -- of God the gift,

Posted by calvintaneng > 2019-01-20 19:33 | Report Abuse

I like Weymouth's translation

Weymouth New Testament
For it is by grace that you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves. It is God's gift, and is not on the ground of merit--

Calvin comments:

Salvation is by faith

Salvation is not by man's merit or doing good deeds to earn heaven

Salvation IS A GIFT FROM GOD.

Posted by kilopo > 2019-01-20 21:49 | Report Abuse

In summary,there are many choices on earth. In eternity there are only two. What is yours?

Posted by shortinvestor77 > 2019-01-20 22:49 | Report Abuse

I choose Heaven of course. No point to be in hell. It is "Chinkat" to choose hell. Jesus is the "passport" to go to heaven.

Posted by Sslee > 2019-01-21 09:15 | Report Abuse

Dear calvintaneng,
With respect and not mean to offense anyone allow me to tell my story when I first encounter with the church. I came from poor family and in order to get a free tuition during my secondary school day, I join a church bible study in order to improve my English. I was fascinated with JESUS history of love even to non-believer, his performing of miracle, his tenacity to drive on despite the entire obstacle and oppression place in front of him, his teaching of good against evil, his struggle for justice and against tyrant, his sadness and betrayal by his student, his death at the cross and his resurrection from death. For a man of such compassion and of love, I do not think he will ever condemn any of the non-believers as sinners beyond salvation and deserve to be burn in hell for eternity.
In later part I found out that the church is more interest in converting us (Boy) rather than teaching us the bible. There was this boy from my study group so influenced by the church that he went against his parents objection and convert to Christian and living in the church. (The argument was as what you wrote and even telling us (BOY) your parents give you the physical fresh “body” it is the father (God) that give you your soul and your salvation “God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, [Jesus Christ], that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life (John 3:16).”. Your earth parents are insignificant compare to (God) the father and we are now brother and sister in Christianity). This was my saddest day as to me my parents are everything to me. I walk out of church and never return again.

There are so many things good and bad done in the name of religion. If you believe in supremacy theory and your faith teaches you salvation is given not earned, I respect your believe and faith. I believe in meritocracy and my faith teaches me salvation is earned not given. So let’s agree to disagree.

As of question: Posted by kilopo > Jan 20, 2019 09:49 PM | Report Abuse
In summary,there are many choices on earth. In eternity there are only two. What is yours?

I aim to leave behind a better world than I first found it. I do not worry about what I am going to find in the other side of this world. As Hollandking once mention is this world real? Are we real? Are we just an illusion as what the Movie “The Matrix” portrayed?

And if you have gone through what Saint Mother Teresa of Calcutta had gone through and her thought of humaneness, love, selflessness, devotion, compassion, empathy, sacrifice, suffering, pain, loss, darkness, hopelessness, despair and dead. You will say I quote:
• If I ever become a Saint — I surely be one of "darkness". I will continually be absent from Heaven — to light the light of those in darkness on earth.
• my Jesus, You have done to me according to Your will—and Jesus hear my prayer—if this pleases You—if my pain and suffering—my darkness and separation gives You a drop of consolation—my own Jesus, do with me as You wish—as long as You wish, without a single glance at my feelings and pain... I beg of You only one thing—please do not take the trouble to return soon.—I am ready to wait for You for all eternity.

Thank you

Posted by calvintaneng > 2019-01-21 10:37 | Report Abuse

Good morning SSLee,

My experience is different from yours. I became a Christian before I been to any Church.

Now that will be a story later.
As to the teachings that you were taught as a stumbling block by some ignorant Christian's that your parents are insignicant I think you have been misled.

We are told to honor our parents in the 10 commandments.

Honor thy father and thy mother that they days may be long

Do not despise thy mother when she is old

I know of a Lady Christian Bank manager whose mother is sick right now. She took 1 year unpaid leave from the Bank to take care of her mother. Her pay is 6 figure a year.

As to meritocracy in business yes. Singapore is a meritocratic nation. But since God's word says, "All have sinned and come short of the glory of God and there is none righteous, no, not one.

To go to heaven we need to be 100% perfect in thought, word and deed all the seconds, minutes, days, months and years of our lives. And there is none.

So the soul that sins it shall die.
One bite from the Cobra can kill so one sin, one lie, one bad word can kill our soul.

Only Jesus Christ, born sinless. Lived a sinless life could die for mankind's behalf.

And that is why in Christianity there is the urgent message of salvation. To tell others how to be saved by accepting forgiveness in Christ is our compelling concern.

As to mother Theresa what she did is commendable. But what she said is sentimental.
After a life of suffering for the poor on Earth she should realize that Jesus Christ is returning the 2nd time to earth to wipe out sin, suffering, sadness and even death once for all.

In the new Kingdom that Jesus prepares there will be no sickness, pain, poverty or suffering any more.

Because the former things are passed away

Some future day all our experiences now are called "former things".

So she should have said, "Come Lord Jesus"

Posted by Lukesharewalker > 2019-01-21 11:06 | Report Abuse

Think we should stick to business talk

Posted by Sslee > 2019-01-21 12:50 | Report Abuse

Dear Calnintaneng,
Good afternoon, if below video is your idea of Second Coming of Jesus Christ. Then all humanity should pray very hard that “my own Jesus, do with me as You wish—as long as You wish, without a single glance at my feelings and pain... I beg of You only one thing—please do not take the trouble to return soon.—I am ready to wait for You for all eternity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyFEJ-Cptr4

https://activechristianity.org/what-does-the-bible-say-about-the-second-coming-of-christ

The end times bring with them a lot of misery and pain. It the darkest point in the earth’s history, where evil, sorrow, and unrighteousness run rampant. Darkness rules the earth completely
At the end of the Great Tribulation the Antichrist will gather all of his armies from all over the earth to go and attack Jerusalem. (Zechariah 14:1-2) They will begin slaughtering the Jews without mercy. This will be the Jews’ greatest hour of need in their entire history. In his bitterness and anger the Antichrist intends their complete destruction.
But then Jesus and the saints will descend from heaven to save them! “Then the Lord will go forth and fight against those nations, as He fights in the day of battle. And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, which faces Jerusalem on the east.” Zechariah 14:3-4. See also Revelation 19:11-16.
Then all of the wicked soldiers of the Antichrist will be consumed in a plague! They will dissolve completely away. (Zechariah 14:12) God’s judgment over the beast and the Antichrist will not be light. You can imagine His righteous fury over the ones who have tried to hurt and destroy and corrupt His beloved creation right from the beginning. Both the beast and the Antichrist will be thrown into the lake of fire to burn for all eternity (Revelation 19:20-21) and Satan will be bound in the bottomless pit for a thousand years. (Revelation 20:1-3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXynAPBDfTI

Malaysia is able to change the government without any bloodshed in GE14. So let all the peace loving leaders of the World to do something in finding a permanent peace solution to the Israel and Palestine conflict. And please do not add oil to fire by stereotype non-believer as antichrist, Jesus is my hero for his humaneness, love, selflessness, devotion, compassion, empathy to the suffering and pains of common people and his ultimate sacrifice. Please give peace a chance to succeed.

Thank you.
P/S: I will not comment further as I agreed with Posted by Lukesharewalker > Jan 21, 2019 11:06 AM | Report Abuse
Think we should stick to business talk

Posted by calvintaneng > 2019-01-21 15:03 | Report Abuse

SSLee,.


You have showned what Hollywood depicted

Whether end times will be played out exactly like that I don't know.

I hope the world will continue to live in peace and harmony for as long as we can.

But you must know 1st and 2nd World wars happened in 1914 - 18 and 1939 - 45

We already have no world wars for more than 70 years now.

As to the future no one can tell for how long more will there be peace on Earth.

The Bible is a prophetic book. Since God is fore knowing. God knows the past, the present and the future. But fore knowing is not fore determination. God did not plan that Hitler should kill so many innocent people. But he did.

So is Anti Christ. God only tell us what Anti Christ do to destroy humanity.

If left to all his evil devises Anti Christ would have annihilated all mandkind eventually.

That is why Jesus must hasten His return to save us. Or else no flesh (not even one human being) will be left alive physically on Earth if he delays His return

Posted by tessie63 > 2019-01-25 18:39 | Report Abuse

to calvintaneng, your revelation in Christ, especially in your post on 21 Jan 2019 really well said. I like to read your post and also following your comment on stock picks as well. May you shine for Christ in the market place

Posted by calvintaneng > 2019-01-26 16:52 | Report Abuse

Thank you tessie63
May Almighty God bless you