Posted by qqq3 > 2019-01-26 12:34 | Report Abuse

the Q factor....u have it or u don't don't.

the first task is to find out if you got the Q factor......


lets say, you don't have the Q factor...then attend seminars and lectures also no use.

lets say, you have the Q factor, ....why become a rubbish collector?

Is becoming a rubbish collector the way to go?

Posted by stockraider > 2019-01-26 12:39 | Report Abuse

The 1st step u must find out got:

1. Got margin of safety factor
2. Got strong Balance sheet factor
3. Got big cash factor
4. Got reasonable div factor
5. Positive earnings factor

That means got 'R 'factor can buy or sailang loh...!!

Insas hathaway is the best ' R ' factor stock 2019.

Don missed this opportunity loh...!!

Posted by qqq3 > 2019-01-26 13:29 | Report Abuse

Those who gets killed are those who got no Q and go play in rubbish dump.

Posted by 10154899906070843 > 2019-01-26 14:10 | Report Abuse

After reading this I will be changing my name to John Fenn!

https://ideas.ted.com/what-can-we-learn-from-people-who-succeed-later-in-life/

I loved reading this article. This was basically the sum of my life. Keep failing in stock investments and techincal analysis and value investing buys. Doing stupid things over and over. Almost giving up.

Operating word being ALMOST.

In the end, I attribute more to the fact that I never stopped reading and learning and keep trying to invest in the stock market that I finally have the success today.

Most new investors come into the forum, start posting up their value and strategies and technical indicators, then when things go wrong they quickly give up and move on to something else.

I just stuck with it.

Posted by qqq3 > 2019-01-26 14:34 | Report Abuse

(S = QR) Philip > Jan 26, 2019 02:10 PM | Report Abuse

failing...... and value investing buys.
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that has to be the eureka moment before r can come.....

Posted by qqq3 > 2019-01-26 15:13 | Report Abuse

potential squared.....lol...

Posted by qqq3 > 2019-01-26 15:16 | Report Abuse

u are minimizing the role of r....the potential of an idea....

Posted by probability > 2019-01-26 15:17 | Report Abuse

Good info there, let me derive the above using electrical engineering math (Mr.Long you should be able to understand this):

Power = Voltage Potential (V) x Current (I)
= Voltage Potential x ( 1/Resistance)
= V x (1/R)

Your r factor above is analogous to the Voltage (the set)
Your Q factor above is analogous to the current which is inverse to Setting's resistance (settings)

Your S success, is the Power delivered.
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To release your full Power (Kw) as per your Potential (Voltage), you need to keep relentlessly, persistently look for paths giving least Resistance (R)...so the current (I) can flow easily....

Posted by probability > 2019-01-26 15:17 | Report Abuse

Its all to do with (1) SET (yourself, internal potential) and,
(2) SETTINGS (surroundings, experience, external stimuli)....

so if you think your job (settings) is not nurturing your growth with your potential...find another job...keep trying other paths...you may find the path with least resistance to release your full potential...

Posted by probability > 2019-01-26 15:18 | Report Abuse

The above principle can be used to select stocks too:
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Posted by probability > Nov 29, 2018 12:16 AM | Report Abuse X

Having some electrical knowledge... i always use the below analogy:

(i) Sales Volume potential is like electricity Current I....and,
(ii) Gross margins are like Voltage, V...

Earnings = Sales x Margin = I x V = Power in Watts

We need to see where lightning can strike......

i.e where there is huge pent up electric potential difference (voltage)....and sparks will lead to further sparks...and release an enormous jolt of current.......


Posted by probability > Nov 29, 2018 12:37 AM | Report Abuse X

i you watch a lightening strike in super slow motion X 100...viewed upside down....thats exactly like how a business or tree grows....

each branch generating more branches (RR)..while all the branches thickens and widens (ROE).....

Growth = RR x ROE
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RR = Reinvestment rate
ROE = Return on Equity...

The above are the two engines....the fundamental Driving Force of a business performance

Posted by probability > 2019-01-26 15:19 | Report Abuse

to be more mathematically correct,

Power = V^2 x (1/R)

which means the above equation in the blog, should be rewritten as:

S = r^2 x Q

It makes more sense to be ''to the square of a person's potential, r'...as it matters more...

you can't have the same performance (S) just because your efforts, Q are double with half the potential, r...

Posted by qqq3 > 2019-01-26 15:20 | Report Abuse

next question.....Q is execution...what is good execution? surely it means margin and sailang.

Posted by qqq3 > 2019-01-26 15:27 | Report Abuse

good...I like Canslim more than wallen the Bufalo....

Posted by probability > 2019-01-26 16:28 | Report Abuse

the late bloomers can be explained using the below formula much easily:

S= r^2 x Q

Say one is extremely talented...and yet did not have opportunities to unleash his potentials...due to poor settings or bad luck,...his r value would have still been rising steadily as he invest in his knowledge...r would have grown so much that one day...when he finally finds a small Q...and opportunity to execute his ideas....the r^2 is so big that even with a small Q value...the Success, S value would be enormous.

I think this might explain late bloomers...like yourself, KC..and the likes Of Nelson Mandela...as their r value was steadily rising despite having no visible success earlier



Posted by (S = QR) Philip > Jan 26, 2019 02:10 PM | Report Abuse

After reading this I will be changing my name to John Fenn!

https://ideas.ted.com/what-can-we-learn-from-people-who-succeed-later-...

I loved reading this article. This was basically the sum of my life. Keep failing in stock investments and techincal analysis and value investing buys. Doing stupid things over and over. Almost giving up.

Operating word being ALMOST.

In the end, I attribute more to the fact that I never stopped reading and learning and keep trying to invest in the stock market that I finally have the success today.

Most new investors come into the forum, start posting up their value and strategies and technical indicators, then when things go wrong they quickly give up and move on to something else.

Posted by qqq3 > 2019-01-26 16:32 | Report Abuse

Q or how to avoid the Mourinho problem...good for 1 or 2 years and third year, every thing collapse because ...
1 you lost it
2 u offended the players
3 the players no longer trust you
4 u become over confident.
5......third year, u got more money and your $ lost is even faster...

Posted by probability > 2019-01-26 16:37 | Report Abuse

My take away from all the above is this:
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Value Margins more than Sales for the same Earnings, value ROE more than RR for the same growth, Value Quality more than Quantity, Value Efficiency more than Effectiveness...

Value your potentials (knowledge, skills) more than opportunities...for the same objective of Success.

Though both are absolutely essential for success.

Posted by probability > 2019-01-26 16:46 |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by qqq3 > 2019-01-26 21:02 | Report Abuse

easier to understand the valuation given to QL by the market by first understanding Qr......

same applies to other stocks....

Posted by qqq3 > 2019-01-26 22:28 | Report Abuse

I propose that companies can also be valued based on Qr instead of PE.

It works...it is not popular because it calls for a lot of judgments...but it works.

what is popular with teachers is the easier PE ...what the professionals use is Qr.

Posted by qqq3 > 2019-01-26 22:47 | Report Abuse

If u use Qr to look for shares in its early days / or mid cycle...instead of PE....u would have found Public Bank, Harta, Top Glove, Yinson...and Scientex, AeonCredit, Vitrox and the best of the best at the earliest possible stage.

Posted by stockraider > 2019-01-26 23:20 | Report Abuse

correct ah ??

Today saturday 4 ekor draw result, my uncle after seeing the 4 ekor result, always tell me, if he adopted QR approach....he will be able to pick the 4 ekor 1st prize winner consistently loh...!!

Btw my uncle...always tell me the same story everytime after the 4 ekor draw result is out loh....!!

Raider is smiling...he...he..he..."sounds familiar like our friend QQQ loh"...!!

Posted by qqq3 > Jan 26, 2019 11:07 PM | Report Abuse

If one is to use Qr to look for shares in its early days / or mid cycle...instead of PE....one would have found Public Bank, Harta, Top Glove, Yinson...and Scientex, AeonCredit, Vitrox and the best of the best at the earliest possible stage.

Posted by qqq3 > 2019-01-26 23:26 | Report Abuse

raid....empat ekor is pure random....Qr calls for judgement and experience......

Posted by qqq3 > 2019-01-26 23:29 | Report Abuse

raid....empat ekor is pure random....Qr calls for judgement and experience......and getting to know the management /CEO...some thing that one in NZ has a clear disadvantage........that is why he avoids it....but not fair to his students.....

Posted by stockraider > 2019-01-26 23:32 | Report Abuse

Not random lah...after seeing the result out.. sure can quack...quack...quack loh...!!

Samething mah...after seeing the result of share historical share performance in the rear mirror pbb, harta, scientex, aeoncr, vitrox...u sure can certainly quack quack quack loh....!!
WHO CANNOT LEH ??

Posted by qqq3 > Jan 26, 2019 11:26 PM | Report Abuse

raid....empat ekor is pure random....Qr calls for judgement and experience....

Posted by qqq3 > 2019-01-26 23:37 | Report Abuse

harta, scientex, aeoncr, vitrox...

its not rear view mirror from my point of view......there are good reasons to like them these past years ......

Posted by stockraider > 2019-01-26 23:41 | Report Abuse

yes mah...these are the past success stock loh....!!

2019 going forward the future what stock...u think got the QR oomph leh ??

Posted by qqq3 > Jan 26, 2019 11:37 PM | Report Abuse

harta, scientex, aeoncr, vitrox...

its not rear view mirror from my point of view......there are good reasons to like them these past years ......

Posted by qqq3 > 2019-01-26 23:42 | Report Abuse

going forward?.....Vitrox will still be growing for next 10 years.....

Posted by qqq3 > 2019-01-26 23:50 | Report Abuse

kc wants to be known as a teacher but refuse to take into account the people, and the business...the Q factor and the r factor.....

kc...is that fair to your students?

Posted by stockraider > 2019-01-26 23:51 | Report Abuse

U bad mouth KC, how people can accept ur poor reputation leh ??

Posted by qqq3 > Jan 26, 2019 11:50 PM | Report Abuse

kc wants to be known as a teacher but refuse to take into account the people, and the business...the Q factor and the r factor.....

kc...is that fair to your students?

Posted by qqq3 > 2019-01-26 23:53 | Report Abuse

what I previously call the X factor.....

Posted by probability > 2019-01-27 00:12 | Report Abuse

Dynamic X Sailang = X factor
r x Q = S factor
Preparation x Opportunity = Jackpot Strike!

qqq3 is the ultimate sifu
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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-01-27 00:15 | Report Abuse

stockraider > Jan 26, 2019 11:51 PM | Report Abuse

U bad mouth KC, how people can accept ur poor reputation leh ??
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its alright...I don't survive on students fees.

Posted by probability > 2019-01-27 00:16 | Report Abuse

If Einstein had discovered E = m*C^2 in the field of Physics..
qqq3 had discovered S = r*Q in the field of Investing.

Posted by probability > 2019-01-27 00:19 | Report Abuse

to be more precise, S = Q x r^2...just like E = m x C^2....

their potential is so great...even with a small opportunity (Q) or a small mass (m)...they can make EXPLOSIVE success.

Posted by qqq3 > 2019-01-27 00:21 | Report Abuse

I did not discover it...I borrow it from physicists....


https://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/physicists-have-discovered-a-formula-for-success-it-contains-a-brutal-truth-most-people-dont-want-to-admit.html

Posted by qqq3 > 2019-01-27 00:23 | Report Abuse

probability.....u know what is a great r stock?


look at HT Padu.......execution....a bit too early to tell....but r is great......

Posted by probability > 2019-01-27 00:24 | Report Abuse

since i am from physics background...i never saw the links earlier...but just from your description...the bell rang immediately...all those i wrote above was without reading any of these articles...

it makes a lot of sense...but difficult to practice..not everyone can make use of it...

Posted by probability > 2019-01-27 00:26 | Report Abuse

HTPadu to Mypay is like Insas to Inari...wouldn't touch it
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Posted by qqq3 > 2019-01-27 00:28 | Report Abuse

not really...this is a PNB stock......this is not Thong Kok Kee stock....


execution a bit too early to tell.....

Posted by qqq3 > 2019-01-27 00:29 | Report Abuse

the start up gets 20%......HT Padu gets 80%....

Posted by probability > 2019-01-27 00:31 | Report Abuse

Mypay is still 12 months far away...and it looks like a start up of small business done by the like of cute Jon...some fresh graduates...

Posted by qqq3 > 2019-01-27 00:39 | Report Abuse

probability > Jan 27, 2019 12:31 AM | Report Abuse

Mypay is still 12 months far away...and it looks like a start up of small business done by the like of cute Jon...some fresh graduates...
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yes, I also think like you....

Posted by qqq3 > 2019-01-27 00:41 | Report Abuse

but smart enough to get HT Padu involved....and PNB recently bought more HT Padu just before announcement.....a block deal...a big block deal......maybe even got Zeti blessing woh?

Posted by qqq3 > 2019-01-27 00:41 | Report Abuse

Zeti also wants to make PNB great again.....

Posted by probability > 2019-01-27 00:44 | Report Abuse

there are way more much much visible business..and established ones in Myeg..

Myeg...would infact support Mypay...just as cosmetics to show they are not the only player...

Posted by probability > 2019-01-27 00:46 | Report Abuse

its like a mouse (mypay) in the hands of a playful cat (myeg)...it does not take seconds to be killed..

Posted by qqq3 > 2019-01-27 00:50 | Report Abuse

icon says he take small position and not trade with it....see what happens...Icon smart guy recently....

Posted by qqq3 > 2019-01-27 00:52 | Report Abuse

MYEG is Najib....

Mypay if Zeti then sure Zeti win la.....

Posted by qqq3 > 2019-01-27 00:54 | Report Abuse

by probability > Jan 27, 2019 12:44 AM | Report Abuse

there are way more much much visible business..and established ones in Myeg..

Myeg...would infact support Mypay...just as cosmetics to show they are not the only player...
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u are smart and prudent person....

Posted by qqq3 > 2019-01-27 01:06 | Report Abuse

kc

Jaks and Sendai if I no good, long time ago I lost back every thing already......told u , I am very good.....