Posted by zoizai > 2017-07-28 16:00 | Report Abuse

itu dia. break that 8.80 block

Posted by Newmaster > 2017-07-28 16:20 | Report Abuse

Noted a lot of buying interests started switching from HY d, good for us who bought low and BiG, hahahahah, cheers !

Posted by Gaybird Lim > 2017-07-28 16:21 | Report Abuse

700 lot. thanks kyy.

Posted by kai8994 > 2017-07-28 16:22 | Report Abuse

Looks like it gonna break out from the resistance and make new high today! :D

Posted by Newmaster > 2017-07-28 16:25 | Report Abuse

Yes, easily reach 9

Posted by stocknanmy > 2017-07-28 16:36 | Report Abuse

KYY ada datang ke ?

Harga dah naik kuat, kamu dah jual ke ? Jual la, bab HY lebih baik kan.

Kita tetap sabar tunggu setaip hari

Posted by suregain > 2017-07-28 16:53 | Report Abuse

oh no... wait for me...

Posted by Dragonpick > 2017-07-28 17:33 | Report Abuse

Will surge wildly if more good articles by sifus come out from forum

Posted by aseng > 2017-07-28 17:47 | Report Abuse

Petronm is my wife
KYY is my good brother now

i don't come back home doesn't mean I don't work hark for this home
see my comments in hengyuan, then you know I love this home not less than you

but remember
share trading is rich man game
if a rich man don't even look at you , what the low pe , good earning lah....
all can not show its value ....

a beautiful girl must have many men go after , or at least a powerful man courting her , if not she will forever remind in the kampung unnoticed.....

remember....
be humble...
make money quietly......
be grateful to those who help you , at least pretend to be grateful if you not used to do it.....
don't bad mouth my good friend KYY
Petronm fulfilled his golden rules ....
there is a big likelihood that he will come here one day...
but if we behave arrogant and very ungrateful to those who are willing to help us rich
then we are actually fighting with our own pocket...
be wise.....
if one he really come here, then we fat-tat liao......

look at how hengyuan perform these few day
you will agree with what i said

good lucks


thanks
xuewen

Posted by Newmaster > 2017-07-28 18:15 | Report Abuse

Welcome back aseng gor, I'm sure KYY is in oledi, just didnt want to surface yet. Also noticed several participants here kept collecting and gave hints when below 8 and 8.5 in big quantity jointly.

Somebodies here must have known him and started to enter earlier to hit big this round.

Posted by ColdIce > 2017-07-28 18:39 | Report Abuse

Since many say goodstock, will look at it tonight. Thanks

Posted by stockraider > 2017-07-28 18:43 | Report Abuse

ASENG,

NO NEED TO BE SO SAD WITH UR FAITHFULLY PETRON WIFE LOH....!!

IN FACT PETRON IS DOING EXCEPTIONAL WELL TODAY, UP ALOT RM 0.35 ONE OF THE TOP GAINER LOH....!!

PLEASE CHEER PETRON FOR RAIDER LOH....!!

RAIDER GOING TO HOLD PETRON WITH A TARGET OF RM 14.00 LOH...!!

Posted by talkyourkok > 2017-07-28 19:16 | Report Abuse

Starting now its price movement will be as crazy as MPI and finally reach 14.00!

Posted by paperplane2016 > 2017-07-28 19:34 | Report Abuse

Actually petronm easily move up Top 80% in top30 holders. And Top number one holding 70% tight. Hardly anyone sell. So it will be very good when people like find mgr and KYY buy in

Posted by Activeinvestor > 2017-07-28 23:33 | Report Abuse

Wah, the price shot up so fierce ! Still cheap I guess.

Posted by Activeinvestor > 2017-07-28 23:43 | Report Abuse

Luckily sailang yesterday, if not will fly again

Posted by UncleMau > 2017-07-29 12:38 | Report Abuse

Surely those now talking in HY forum will be either switching to Petronm soon or get caught if they still aim for sky high TP of > RM15.

Reason that the price move in HY is due to KYY effect, nothing else as the price has been on dangerous level for sharp correction. Dont forget HY is heavily on debt whereas Petronm is almost debt free.

Buying a debt free company could make us sleep better.

Posted by stockraider > 2017-07-29 12:51 | Report Abuse

b4 hrc move to sky high rm 15.00....petron would have move to raiders target of rm 14.00 mah....!!

So what is the risk leh ??

Everybody hot mah...!

Posted by DrNeo > 2017-07-29 13:02 | Report Abuse

As said earlier, TP for Petronm is 10.20 to 12.00.

No need to be greedy, just need a little patience guys.

Posted by stockraider > 2017-07-29 13:02 | Report Abuse

RAIDER COMMENT,

UNDERSTAND THE PEER GROUP RUN LOH....IF PETRON BULL RUN RAIDER HAPPY BCOS IT WILL BENEFIT HRC LOH...!!

ON THE OTHER HAND IF HRC BULL RUN RAIDER HAPPY BCOS IT WILL BENEFIT PETRON LOH....!!

PEER BULL RUN....ALWAYS STRENGTHEN OVERALL INDUSTRY LOH...!!
IT IS LIKE A RISING TIDE, IT WILL BRING UP ALL THE SHIP IN THE INDUSTRY LOH....!!
NO NEED TO WORRY...LOH....!!

Posted by Macquarie > 2017-07-29 17:31 | Report Abuse

Here we come to forcily double wack Petronm on Monday after some accumulation earlier around 8.05 - 8.25 price range. Just watch the show as arguing for hours will not do anything good like in HY forum.

Posted by Imposterranger > 2017-07-29 19:02 | Report Abuse

hahaha, so many dreamers in HY. Let them chase and wake up later to realise Petronm is the steady one.

Posted by talkyourkok > 2017-07-30 11:13 | Report Abuse

Don't worry guys! I have instructed KYY to push petronm up above rm9 early in the morning tomorrow and probably stay at around rm9.20 at lunch time.

Posted by talkyourkok > 2017-07-30 11:20 | Report Abuse

Don't worry guys! If you don't believe KYY you must believe me. If you don't believe me you must believe KYY!

Posted by talkyourkok > 2017-07-30 11:26 | Report Abuse

Don't worry guys! KYY is my most efficient right hand assistant and is the most efficient person in taking reactions after receiving my instructions!

Posted by talkyourkok > 2017-07-30 11:28 | Report Abuse

So don't worry guys! Enjoy seeing petronm share price rocketing up whole day tomorrow!

Posted by stockraider > 2017-07-30 12:00 | Report Abuse

Lets look at Aseng point of view;

1. He has some exposure on Petron and wants everyone switch from HRC to Petron to support him

2. He sold his small position at around Rm 7.00 and he hope to buy back cheap at Rm 6.50.

Yes petron a good stock in fact raider has some position too , the tp is Rm 14.00, but raider tp on hrc is even more terror at Rm 22.00.
Why ? Simply HRC better earnings and better undervalue mah...!!

Aseng dream of buying back hrc cheap is gone loh...!!
HRC is already at the explosive share run up stage loh;

1. All the refinery stocks worlwide showed explosive cracking margin, Hrc historically earn better margin will even do better loh...!!

2. The 2nd Qtr result of HRC to be announced will be very very good mah...due to worldwide explosive refining cracking margin loh..!! U just need to wait within 4 wks....the result will be super fantastic loh...!! There is no stopping for HRC share price mah...!!
Thats why we all shout hold your horses mah...Icon, paperlane, probability all with good hearts sifu shout hang on to your HRC stock loh..!!

3. Great buying sifu like KYY just jump in mah....!! Also OTB with few hundreds of rich followers are jumping in too loh...!!
Beside many funds already took notice of HRC, as it being the BEST Performing STOCK GAIN WEEKLY for this week mah....!! So u can see huge buying power..but quietly ask yourself where is the supply leh ?

4. Petron investment on new plant with additional 60k bpd will cost rm 6.4 billion loh..!! This mean HRC refinery very valuable...new will cost Rm 12.8 billion...but bcos it is used we discount 50%....that means it is worth Rm 6.4 billion or Rm 22.00 per share loh...!!

5. The expected jumped in EPS pa based on OTB and KYY forecast is Rm 3.25...u can imagine PE 6x....what is HRC share price leh ?

6. in 2005 12yrs ago HRC share price already hit rm 12.30 loh..!! Given inflation and cost of holding say 8%....u should expect HRC to hit Rm 24.60....but HRC only Rm 6.90 PE 3x only mah..!!

Posted by Newmaster > 2017-07-30 15:26 | Report Abuse

Petronm will run above 9.15 2morrow if HY is hot as it shares common retail investors. Both are brotherly related. Good for all !

Posted by probability > 2017-07-30 15:34 | Report Abuse

ready for uncharted territory?

Posted by aseng > 2017-07-30 15:47 | Report Abuse

Posted by stockraider > Jul 30, 2017 10:54 AM | Report Abuse

Lets look at Aseng point of view;

1. He has some exposure on Petron and wants everyone switch from HRC to Petron to support him
Aseng: not support me , petronm does not belong to me

2. He sold his small position at around Rm 7.00 and he hope to buy back cheap at Rm 6.50.

Aseng:
no ! hit and run can buy low sell high , can also buy high sell higher ,i always buy high sell higher

Yes petron a good stock in fact raider has some position too , the tp is Rm 14.00, but raider tp on hrc is even more terror at Rm 22.00.
Why ? Simply HRC better earnings and better undervalue mah...!!

Aseng:
petronm meets my stock selection criteria , so i buy and forget and wait patiently for the big harvest . hengyuan does not meet my criteria, but selling hot now , good to tumpang your luck, hit and run


Aseng dream of buying back hrc cheap is gone loh...!!
HRC is already at the explosive share run up stage loh;

Aseng:
when you have money and willing to buy nothing is expensive ,
the is no low or high , only make money if you are playing hit and run


1. All the refinery stocks worlwide showed explosive cracking margin, Hrc historically earn better margin will even do better loh...!!
2. The 2nd Qtr result of HRC to be announced will be very very good mah...due to worldwide explosive refining cracking margin loh..!! U just need to wait within 4 wks....the result will be super fantastic loh...!! There is no stopping for HRC share price mah...!! Thats why we all shout hold your horses mah...Icon, paperlane, probability all with good hearts sifu shout hang on to your HRC stock
loh..!!

Aseng:
then you huat, i huat also , everybody huat ..... in HY and Petronm


3. Great buying sifu like KYY just jump in mah....!! Also OTB with few hundreds of rich followers are jumping in too loh...!!
Beside many funds already took notice of HRC, as it being the BEST Performing STOCK GAIN WEEKLY for this week mah....!! So u can see huge buying power..but quietly ask yourself where is the supply leh ?

aseng:
you call kyy sifu now ,
last time you cursed him , accused him pump and dump ,
scolded stockmanmy dog , plp dog.....
you are worst than stockmanmy now....

KYY , OTB ? do you think they will keep HY for life? they are short fund , are you not aware KYYbuy is now stuck in his many recent investments ,moreover election is near, he need money, big money , fast money, where to get ? Hengyuan , with many sifu article and probability calculation and your strong promotion..... when he start cashing out , it is the time Petronm shoot to the sky , what will happen to HY , i don't want to guess.....

4. Petron investment on new plant with additional 60k bpd will cost rm 6.4 billion loh..!! This mean HRC refinery very valuable...new will cost Rm 12.8 billion...but bcos it is used we discount 50%....that means it is worth Rm 6.4 billion or Rm 22.00 per share loh...!!

Aseng:
this simple mathematic every secondary school student know how to count, but market mathematics is different ....if true then why HY is traded so long undervalued ?
how come so many fund manager do not know ?
oh.... they ponteng mathematics class, do know how to count

5. The expected jumped in EPS pa based on OTB and KYY forecast is Rm 3.25...u can imagine PE 6x....what is HRC share price leh ?

Aseng:
still remember, when petronm profit jumped 500% in the recent quarter ,you, probability and paperplane shouted limit up like no tomorrow... then how? the price dropped 20%
so, earning is not the only factor determined the price , it is more on how much people willing to pay more to buy from you, are you willing to pay more to buy a heavy indebted HY, you may because it is your money, if you are managing other people money , you certainly choose petronm

6. in 2005 12yrs ago HRC share price already hit rm 12.30 loh..!! Given inflation and cost of holding say 8%....u should expect HRC to hit Rm 24.60....but HRC only Rm 6.90 PE 3x only mah..!!

aseng:
do you not feel queer 12 years ago 12.3... now 6.90... later all the sudden go to your TP 40....
you must be God.....

otb and kyy must be feeling so soi to have you in the same boat, talking the bright side avoid the dark. no wonder kyy choose stockmanmy not you..

Posted by aseng > 2017-07-30 16:22 | Report Abuse

Posted by aseng > Jul 30, 2017 12:21 PM | Report Abuse X

last friday if i am not wrong, i bought 5k of HY @ 6.58
i declare : KYY help me to get abalone @ 7, i talk all the good words for you , i think,less than an hour, done , all the 5k matched , got my abalone,

that whole day, i kept my promise, defended KYY as much as I can in HY forum

the next day, i feel i have done enough what i received, I am not asking any more from KYY , i come back to my own self
start sharing what is in my mind ....
truthful and unbiased as far as i can....

facts to know:

1. our market is small and immature
2. price movement is more on how much other willing to pay to buy from you, it is always better to buy a company with steady income with huge cash than to buy a company with dramatic income with huge debt .
3. anything move up will come down, when KYY cash out HY will tumble...that is the time petronm fly.....

Posted by stocknanmy > 2017-07-30 16:47 | Report Abuse

Jangan bimbang, sesiape nak jual Petronm dan tambah lebih HY, habis jual la cepat.

CEO kami baru sebentar tadi luluskan RM10 mil buat belian utk Petronm mulai esok jikalau ade jualan murah murah bab ramai lebih sukakan HY.

Kita akan tetap sabar menunggu di situ saje. Jual la beramai ramai.

Posted by aseng > 2017-07-30 17:09 | Report Abuse

orang berbudi, kita berbahasa
orang bergaduh, kita jangan ketawa

Posted by aseng > 2017-07-30 17:20 | Report Abuse

orang cari rezeki...
rezeki cari budiman
duit mari mari mari
kita simpan simpan simpan

Posted by Activeinvestor > 2017-07-30 18:56 | Report Abuse

aseng seorang pahlawan
petronm adalah bini dia kawan kawan
jangan lagi usik dia nanti melawan
minta maaf jika henyuan teman wanita aseng ditawarkan

Posted by John Lu > 2017-07-30 19:02 | Report Abuse

HYC TP 18
PetronM TP 14

Posted by YLR33 > 2017-07-30 21:47 | Report Abuse

hi all sifus out there, i have commented on blog regard full potential of heng yuan, welcome your all advise so that i can improve my skill in stock analysis

Posted by YLR33 > 2017-07-30 22:18 | Report Abuse

the inventory avg 30 to 40days (page59 AR2016) say 36days, the stock lost will double to 82.5M.

on 21 june 2017, USD 10m or rm43M paid to the new term loan 200M taken dec16 (p13 Q1'17)



if draw a USD$8.25 line to the crack spread chart, it is appopriate, i would not said it is a conservative assumption




assume operating cost & financing cost (for old loan) same as Q1, add in the additional stock lost and finance cost mentioned above the eps for Q2 is 39sen

Posted by YLR33 > 2017-07-31 06:25 | Report Abuse

https://www.quandl.com/data/CHRIS/CME_1NB1-Singapore-Mogas-92-Unleaded-Platts-Brent-Crack-Spread-Futures-Continuous-Contract-1-1NB1-Front-Month

from above chart, year 2015 crack spread higher than year 2016, and is higher than 2017 first half, so the net profit for 2017 may not be so high as forcast

i still figure why Q3 2016 earning is negative, will post when have time and get it

Posted by YLR33 > 2017-07-31 06:38 | Report Abuse

higher crack is Q2 2015 is USD18, go read the chart, now the crack no way near there yet

Posted by int123 > 2017-07-31 06:43 | Report Abuse

YLR is typical over-think investor type, keep research research and study and ended up find all the weaknesses of the company (no company is perfect). Most importantly they NEVER invest in company due to overthink. So that they can't make money too. Hengyuan PE @ 4x. Pls go study Asian refiners, who have this kind of low PE.

YLR do ur homework la don keep waiting to spoon feed, Q3 2016, the crack spread was keep slumping down that period, after that recovered so that profits were excellent, and now the crack spread breaks new high.

Break RM7.6 today, without YLR! ON YEAH.

Posted by ColdIce > 2017-07-31 09:05 | Report Abuse

Lai liao too..................

Posted by Newmaster > 2017-07-31 09:13 | Report Abuse

Almost there as sellers are not so willing to let go.

If any, all sellers in the q will soon be taken out.

Posted by AliCafe > 2017-07-31 09:17 | Report Abuse

pushhhhh :)

Posted by stocknanmy > 2017-07-31 09:30 | Report Abuse

Sabar, jualan dah hampir kering

Akan tolak sekuat mungkin tetap hari ini nanti

Posted by stocknanmy > 2017-07-31 09:35 | Report Abuse

Ade naik jual lagi ke ? Jual la habis.

Harga dah naik ma, nanti kena sangkut jika tak jual.

Posted by aseng > 2017-07-31 09:38 | Report Abuse

Good morning

I spend a lot of time in hengyuen to make fast money
KYY is there, he need money , big money and fast money because he is stuck in other investment and moreover election is near he need more money. Now over there is a good time to gamble ......

If you do not like gamble like me , don't admire other make money in gambling , petronm will move in tandem with hengyuen because there are more value investor than speculator....

Posted by stocknanmy > 2017-07-31 09:41 | Report Abuse

Jualan beramai ramai akan di ambil alih. Jual la cepat

Posted by stocknanmy > 2017-07-31 09:48 | Report Abuse

Naik 2/= boleh ka dalam satu hari ?

Posted by kenari82 > 2017-07-31 09:56 | Report Abuse

petron turn now to fly high..