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2016-11-11 08:58 | Report Abuse

Rm weak mean cpo price today create highest . Rm 2854/tonne compared last week rm2730. But remember fgv debt which count in USD will increased also that will eat their profit or suffer loss possibility.. So weaker Rm only bring good news for palm oil counter who had strong cash flow and low debt.

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2016-11-09 11:24 | Report Abuse

Latest info is very important ..from yesterday until next two days contra player must be very careful. First , if Donald trump win , market will expected 10% plunged in share mArket. So far latest from cnn , Donald trump are leading over Hilary which is out of expected from market like previous Brexit .. As a result , dow Jones future are plunged 500 point now , mexico currency are depreciate 7.5% today, AnywAy haven't know Donald trump will laugh at final or not, pls watch cnn latest news ..otherwise u will eacape not faster than others.

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2016-11-07 17:28 | Report Abuse

Greedy become empty..Don be so greedy..I bought at rm 1.82, sold rm 1.97..even not able so today highest but ok for me ..400 lot , earn 4.5k enough ...thanks for the rumor....

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2016-11-06 15:53 | Report Abuse

Local cooking oil jump only help government earn more not palm oil counter cos no more subsidies, besides price jump will decrease demand and not good news for palm oil counter..

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2016-11-05 15:33 | Report Abuse

As I said before, fgv great fall due to start from last week rumors. Be frankly, most prefer stock is high dividends and net cash company . Cos even if u are the boss of the counter , you also cannot predict the price, AnywAy dividen can be traced, so usually if the company had plenty of cash and profit increasing with the proven track record, it will be safe and More higher return rather u put cash in bank. Stock like FGV not my first choice, if u see most of palm oil counter , they got quote number company is net cash and low debt company with 4-7% dividen, if u analyse fgv, their debt increasing, always invest wrong, owe people so much money still buy here and that with above market price, that of course is their poor management obviously. Anyway , 爛船還有三寸釘, fgv is 3rd largest in the world, palm oil price from early 2016 until future feb 2017 had trade above rm2700 , for next year feb 2017 future we also can know is rm 2820, this info pls refer own with cpo future market . All so many positive show this year will be palm oil counter over perform show time.
Of course , we invest one company if possible pls analysis for the industry also , who is their competitor, what is other product can replace them , who is their main customer , politic and culture which will affect the price . Palm oil mainly for cooking oil , biodiesel only crude oil price above usd80 to usd 120 will be benefit. Palm oil main customer is china and india, malaysia palm oil main competitor is from Indonesia. So demand increase price will high sure every people know,
Recent cpo price high mainly due to few reason , first cpo reserve drop to 6 years lowest, weaker RM, El-nino cause fruit less, of course india consume Cooking oil (palm oil )increased few times for past few years also encourage cpo increase. This two days our main competitor, Indonesia start chaotic again due to religious issue and protest , cause people dead last night. History 1965, 1998 remind us any unstable politic will cause investor run. Today China had become big, if this few days .Jakarta cannot settle the chaotic themselves, I believe china and other investor will change to invest more in Malaysia palm oil. This will be boost the price in highest record. But, I prefer jakarta is safe and settle soon, didn't earn money never mind, peaceful and safe is more important to Jakarta. By the way, I had 40,000 for fgv, 50,000 for tdm, 10,000 for huann which bought last week So far only fgv give me paper profit cos I bought it at rm 1.82..I buy for keep not contra, if possible next week will pump in 100k for palm oil counter again and keep..last word, pray for Jakarta..If u believe God or Allah, then practice peaceful and tolerance , otherwise just another fake God/ Allah followers.

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2016-11-04 23:43 | Report Abuse

Haha, that is difference between high professional player and low standard player...spend more time with ur family ...money just number, Don treat it so seriously, Don argue with other cos it will not help u single cents ..happy weekend...

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2016-11-03 23:27 | Report Abuse

Good training for all. Price plunged start from rumors, see how big fish eat small fish game . Just spread the rumors, pull price down make small fish confident level fall especially contra player. After finished their food, price will back to normal, find other topic to push price(you can refer the headlights today that sign MOU to expand business in Indonesia . Anyway the price will.increased slowly until latest financial results come out...If we smart enough and play not exceed our limit sure we can gain.something..good night and good luck tomorrow everybody..

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2016-11-03 10:25 | Report Abuse

Hoheho: u are welcome..anyway Don play contra..Just personal opinion, Don believe so much , just trust yourself do ur homework..good luck to u also

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2016-11-03 08:48 | Report Abuse

Lucky: really no idea, see financial result first. If same as my said ,improved a lot ,continue hold.
Remember, palm oil main market is Asia, europe use soy oil, usa or South America use flower oil.
If Dow jones fall continue only had 2 reason, first their election afraid donald trump win and interest rate increase, AnywAy this only temporary, first market are ready and prepare for the interest rate increased since 2 years ago impact is less. I dun see Dow jones fall will affect much to palm oil counter. Be honest i also hold palm oil counter yesterday like tdm, taann and I believe they will outperform for latest quarter . We can see palm oil counter had been under perform for so many years sinced 2013-2015. Reason is price below rm 2000 and our strong RM , so most of palm oil counter are drop 30-50% from highest, fgv worst( debt high and invest too much which worsen their cash flow , sure no dividends to give shareholders). We can observe most of palm oil counter had very strong cash flow and good dividends return..this year will be their show time ..Pls observe yourself..

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2016-11-03 01:31 | Report Abuse

from so many previous case price of the share plunged almost 20% (RM 2.2 to Rm 1.82 today closed )within 3 days without any major announcement from company , we can conclude it probably some people spreads the rumors to the market which affect the investor confident. Again , normal people are not insider or management people , so look at the screen drop endlessly will follow like sheep climb the mountain end up die at the bottom.finally.
Although management had clarify with FGV is listed company and under company act which all the management and decision is made by them to protect the shareholder benefit and no other third party as rumor said government will set up one team to over right the FGV management committee. Again , rumor is true or not we dunno , but one thing is the person who spread the rumor had acheived their objective which cause this share ride like roller coaster. Contra player who bought 27-31/10 will suffer huge loss if they bought this share at these period. we can see FGV volume daily usually is 50,000 -100,000 lot, but started from 31th, volume increased 10 times approx 660,000 lot, today 400,000 lot..obviously it is over reacted which oversold.

1. Recently cpo increased dramatically this year mainly due to demand more than supply which seller had final said and winner.
2. Indonesia and malaysia almost control whole cpo world market 80% , so indonesia is our main competitor and we also know that indonesia had overtake us become No 1 in the world. Anyway from china import data , July to September , Malaysia export to china are increased and for Sep Malaysia overtake Indonesia become biggest exporter for cpo to china market . Facebook said robert kok limit malaysia cpo quota to china totally insult Robert kok images and reputation.
3. Data also show the india market for cpo demand is increased this few years, so far crude palm oil market mainly is asia market especially china and india.
4. Due to el-nino weather also main factor cause cpo output is less and reserve drop to 6 years lowest.
5. Weaker Currency for Rm usually will let malaysia become more competitive compared indonesia and probably main factor why china import more from our country.

This probably explain why our CPO price are quite stable and above expectation from Rm 1700 last years to Rm 2750- Rm 2800 currently.

Risk for FGV- debt is high, any buy over deal will increased the short and long term debt

Good news for FGV- pls refer above 5 point,
- political influence is high, government will back up
- 3rd quarter will announce soon, last years 3rd quarter is lose m33mil, this year price stable should had flying color results , election coming soon should be lot of sweets and sugars for the shareholder, otherwise a jib gor ass will not stable in the election.
- hope china trip will bring more good news especially for cpo quota which china willing to commit more and we can know by this week.

anyway, i had buy this share today and probably why i buy due to above my personal view . Pls don simply follow , probably will drop again tomorrow . Anyway pls don buy the share for short term or contra, too risky or simply confuse other investor sure drop or increase and put Target price. Pls trade ur own responsible. Good luck tomorrow.

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2016-11-02 18:17 | Report Abuse

Don so believe all this tools , it is just reference and this time of chart , pe, nta, just for fund managers to fool the beginner to buy or sell their recommend share . If u no familiar enough with what u invest, just stay away the counter, klse still plenty of counter..

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2016-11-02 18:07 | Report Abuse

Besides, few agenda najib to China we had know is borrow money for East coast highway project, and infrastructure, possibility will ask china to import more palm oil from us for this trip ? Of course , people will said Robert kok influence China government for the deal since bn play him out first. But I Don think robert kok will do like that, first he had very reputable and trust business man, he will not just because own personal business conflict offend whole malaysia people palm oil player . I had faith on him. In other ways , new China president Xi jin ping had total different style who had own characters own ways . We can see nowadays lee jia Cheng also sold his China investment assets gradually (probably property bubble), we can conclude president Xi probably will give many ang pow to A jib ger for this trip , one of the angpow is increase palm oil quota to China .. We can confirm this news within this week..share rule, before big fish makan, sure clean the place first ( pull down the price , scare minor share holder or contra player first), after that they will makan slowly until full...do u all feel strange this two weeks this share fluctuate so much without news ?
Who can sense it who will win at the last...

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2016-11-02 17:32 | Report Abuse

Just bought 40,000 unit only in rm 1.82. f tomorrow drop , just keep and hold until election. If break below 1.5 or rm 1, never mind najib will scare cos fgv real estate minor share holder got more than 1 mil people, najib will lose all fgv supporter if he didn't back up this share.. Be honest , I also today buy 50,000 unit tdm , 10,000 taann ..palm oil price this last quarter are approx rm 2600 to rm 2827 highest . Usually palm oil above rm 2500 are comfortable zone to them , so above rm2700 is bonus to them ..Besides, currency dropping are also extra bonus cos importer trade in RM mean weaker rm are more competitive compared other country...anyway be remember , Don play contra cos is betting and you will eat by big fish when contra due date.

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2016-10-31 10:33 | Report Abuse

They wanna turn fgv like 1mdb2. So next time A jib gor will be master behind. So u all know la what will happen next ..

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2016-10-31 08:31 | Report Abuse

Just stay away the oil and gas counter ..Don simply just refer all their history price and their current low pe..those ppl said will back to usd 70 to 80 per barrel looked funny and silly. If people are brilliant enough and know future price and they will buy silently. If those people still dunno why oil and gas counter perform disappointed and when it will recover or not, just cut ur loss..

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2016-10-26 08:00 | Report Abuse

Oil and gas counter had lost its shine on next few years meaning it will never backs those years ago. It is so obvious and clear and easily understand for those who didn't have this counter. The main drop for oil counter is crude oil usage as fuel will be decrease and replace slowly. If u hold Rm 1mil cash, our goal which aim the counter get 200-300% within 3-5years.that why analysis industry outlook and future before invest is important .Don need everyday guess price drop, increase like new bird. If u confident and know what u doing, let say so confident about this share, set rm 1 , Rm.1.5 buffer , otherwise just in sleep mode. Be steady, if everyday so emotional and need monitor ur counter like baby , something wrong about ur investment..frankly speaking, keep away oil and gas counter and property counter . It clearly show oversupply.

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2016-10-18 11:03 | Report Abuse

Oil and gas counter used to top favourite for most investor , the reason is oil is not non renewable energy and other energy like solar ,hydro, wind not so effective which make this black gold most reliable energy for so many decades. Anyway with improvement technology past few year and future environment concept trend, it had make oil not so "rare and unique" in market..hence it probably explain market eye are less concern for oil and gas counter . Oil and gas player who had invest massive capital and borrow money for expanding are facing huge loss ...wait for better market as other people said.

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2016-10-17 23:18 | Report Abuse

Coin always had two side only . Game only always winner and loser. Stock either up and down..of course who can predict future who is winner in final. So instead of so many so called expert forecast with guarantee assurance price will plunged below usd 20 barrel or back to usd80 soon , which side u should believe ? Let me share my penny opinion , hope so many trader Don laugh first. History always is mirror and lesson, we know crude oil is non-renewable energy and one days will finished soon , of course any big investment bank and big crocodile wanna goreng the commodity price will success if they let most investor believe their words and attract more people enter the game . Usually got few cards they can play, world oil reserve , world demand consumed increased, oil producer country involve wars or internal fight which will are very sensitive to the market . That is not surprisingly price can go up to usd 147 in record. But is any people know where this oil daily usage? From data show, we know the usa alone use 20% of world oil supply, next is europe, China , etc. Besides , daily crude oil usage almost 60-70% for vehicle, transport, 20%.for industry supply, 7% for power plant ,.etc.. Maybe many people will think population will keep increased (this is confirmed 100%, unless nuclear war )mean next 10 years we will still more ppl drive car, other market also same . So we assume the crude oil price cheap mega sale maybe is usa partner will arab.Saudi wanna play Russia Putin off and soonly market Will back to stable ,.So based on Warren buffet theory, we should not miss golden opportunity that all in oil share when people scared..
How many trader had this type of strategy ? But really this is real scenario or.analysis ? Sorry about that , I also dunno ..But I can share some info with u all .
1. Sinced usa is top customer for crude oil, so I only shared this customer happening now.First usa had practiced use less, production more by past few years recently. Why ? Thank to hybrid car, electric car and deep shale oil technology.
2. Europe had practiced new law that the zero carbon emission car in future. German on 2030, Holland 2025, other union should fellow..Anyway we Don know this will work or not but we can predict save environment will be.future Trent. How confident ? Try to google tesla , this company listed 2010 with usd 19, can u imagined this company never earn single cents but every year faced huge lost, wat is current price if similar counter happen in Malaysia stock market ? Today tesla listed in usa above 200usd++...Why ? Reason , investor buying Elon Mark(tesla boss) dream and future.
Any revolution sure will replace old player , like iphone replace Nokia , Facebook replace old player.

Now we had so many new energy like renewable energy, solar, wind , hydro and other clean energy.
If you all are sensitive enough , this tesla corp also had energy division and aim to become world largest energy provider .Is it possible tesla could be affect the world oil and.gas big player become current situation ? Apple had prove it, tesla will be next new rising star ?

Future, dream, revolution , new replace old is basic fundamental market and nature law..

Talk so much, enjoy dinner and good luck everybody..again decision is u all..

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2016-10-17 20:24 | Report Abuse

Coin always had two side only . Game only always winner and loser. Stock either up and down..of course who can predict future who is winner in final. So instead of so many so called expert forecast with guarantee assurance price will plunged below usd 20 barrel or back to usd80 soon , which side u should believe ? Let me share my penny opinion , hope so many trader Don laugh first. History always is mirror and lesson, we know crude oil is non-renewable energy and one days will finished soon , of course any big investment bank and big crocodile wanna goreng the commodity price will success if they let most investor believe their words and attract more people enter the game . Usually got few cards they can play, world oil reserve , world demand consumed increased, oil producer country involve wars or internal fight which will are very sensitive to the market . That is not surprisingly price can go up to usd 147 in record. But is any people know where this oil daily usage? From data show, we know the usa alone use 20% of world oil supply, next is europe, China , etc. Besides , daily crude oil usage almost 60-70% for vehicle, transport, 20%.for industry supply, 7% for power plant ,.etc.. Maybe many people will think population will keep increased (this is confirmed 100%, unless nuclear war )mean next 10 years we will still more ppl drive car, other market also same . So we assume the crude oil price cheap mega sale maybe is usa partner will arab.Saudi wanna play Russia Putin off and soonly market Will back to stable ,.So based on Warren buffet theory, we should not miss golden opportunity that all in oil share when people scared..
How many trader had this type of strategy ? But really this is real scenario or.analysis ? Sorry about that , I also dunno ..But I can share some info with u all .
1. Sinced usa is top customer for crude oil, so I only shared this customer happening now.First usa had practiced use less, production more by past few years recently. Why ? Thank to hybrid car, electric car and deep shale oil technology.
2. Europe had practiced new law that the zero carbon emission car in future. German on 2030, Holland 2025, other union should fellow..Anyway we Don know this will work or not but we can predict save environment will be.future Trent. How confident ? Try to google tesla , this company listed 2010 with usd 19, can u imagined this company never earn single cents but every year faced huge lost, wat is current price if similar counter happen in Malaysia stock market ? Today tesla listed in usa above 200usd++...Why ? Reason , investor buying Elon Mark(tesla boss) dream and future.
Any revolution sure will replace old player , like iphone replace Nokia , Facebook replace old player.

Now we had so many new energy like renewable energy, solar, wind , hydro and other clean energy.
If you all are sensitive enough , this tesla corp also had energy division and aim to become world largest energy provider ..

Future, dream, revolution , new replace old is basic fundamental market and nature law..

Talk so much, enjoy dinner and good luck everybody..again decision is u all..

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2015-06-15 18:12 | Report Abuse

Is it sign of cancellation of gst implemented by government?

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2015-05-25 18:44 | Report Abuse

Share is series combined of cheating and fake drama. To win the money is enter the market to know and clarify which one is true and fake when others dunno. When everybody know this , u should step out of the market. The true things is this share flying up due to relate with the concept Gst factor. Be remember this is open market , if their business can gain so much profit, other competitor will come to share the market within 1 year preparation same with other industry. This is IT counter, not monopoly business like Tnb, plus..etc. with NtA 15 cents, no dividen declare, Pe 25 to 40. What i said to investor bought rm 1.5 to rm 1.8, u are super brave bro. Who enter on early last year 10 cent to 40 cent average and sold rm 1.5 above recently, u all are genius, really..

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2015-04-11 11:38 | Report Abuse

Of course, during conversion of big share holder time, number of share increased so much that mean dividen, pe , eps will change also..the share peak is over , property counter good times had past, this counter will continue sleep until next blooming cycle..stay away this counter. It had sleep over ten years, sometimes wake up for while but continue sleep..useless counter due to its poor management or internal problem probably...

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2015-04-11 11:26 | Report Abuse

Yangtze: it is just other share holder convert their right issue to its mother share announcement.

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2015-03-09 23:25 | Report Abuse

Skpetro 有很多美元债务,可以预测的是要还的钱会越来越多。马币不停的贬值会增加工程的成本,尤其是本地petronas 的工程,即使手头上有很多on hand job,盈利也会大砍。最新epf 也开始动摇,开始disposed share 了。不过最大凶手还是大股东跳船,也有可能被推下船,总之抛售活动最怕像黄河一样,绵绵不绝。公司内斗也好,政治因素也好,无风不起浪,小心驾得万年船,一个字,闪。。。

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2015-02-05 09:38 | Report Abuse

How to defined good share ? First, profit company at least past 3 years. Next it prove had constant dividen, bonus share, big share holder buy back the share from open market to show big share holder had confidence about their future of the company. Is l &g done it ? First, it prove is a profit company latest 3 years, first dividen announced, bonus share rumor or proposed? Buy back? Actually by La, it increased the share number it mean dividen or value of shareholder are depreciated... it can be traced from major exercised of past 6 mth converted la to mother share. So far, this company will not raise any local fund interest.. so again, is just small fish play each other..buy only with this 4 factor, profit, dividen, bonus share, big shareholders increased percentage of their share.. again, i not so confidence or trust of their poor management..this can be seen also no local fund manager involving this share from past few years record...

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2015-01-30 22:16 | Report Abuse

Try to imagine the term "hot money". From year 2008, Qe 1,2,3 purpose? For year 2014, qe for japan, for year 2015 qe for euro zone. Most of this country use this weapon we can seen is their currency drop and also due to financial crisis. Why this country use QE? Reason is simple, private n corporate company debt too huge n government cash flow tight, they are print more money to increase the liquidity of their cash flow n buy bad debt. The side effects is currency drop n inflation increase. Winner is rich man or big corporate company and loser of course is normal ppl. All this extra money or so called "hot money " in fact are flow to commodity, share, third country , property market imstead against their wish to boost their domestic market. We can traced from year 2008 to mid 2014 , most of world share market, commodities(crude oil), property market are enjoy huge gain range from 200% to 300%. Instead of said slumped of crude oil market, we can said crude oil market is just back to fundamental price on year 2008. Flower not always red. Usa had stop their qe and planning to increase the interest rate, that is main reason commodity price more related to hot money instead of demand vs supply theory. Invest the share with steady dividen, dont always just buy the share n guess it will rebound soon..this is same with betting in genting casino. Currently must be very careful market, if u don had enough bullet n long life to hold it, just prepare the worst... Good luck everybody.!

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2015-01-11 13:09 | Report Abuse

From research n news indicate the crude oil maybe oversupply due to few factor. In business line, if all the player play price war, there is one reason which to kill their competitors. Maybe ppl will think usa link with opec country such as arab saudi to destroyed russia economic or opec wanna destroy usa shale oil player. So far crude oil slump is not so bad news for normal ppl but for investors involved in oil n gas counter suffered different loss. I more concern is crude oil slump will temporary or just the beginning of world economic crisis? From crude oil slump i personal conclude all starting from usa QE1,2,3.. too much hot money flooded world market past few years which boost commodities , housing, world index climb higest in record. From slump is crude oil is just symptoms of hot money game is over. The next is low interest era will be end soon, u all can seen borrow interest rate started increase slowly, property blooming game will be cooled down coming soon. Be aware for investor who had high bank loan either on business or mortgage. Try to imagine if blr keep increased from 6.5, 6.75, 6.85, 7, 8, 9% as year 1997, property goreng player who had few unit unable to sold or rent with 70 to 100% loan. Are u able had enough cash flow for sustained 2years above if financial crisis come next 6 mths? Be prepared, hints such as our currency compared last January 2014 is almost 15% drop, blr rate climb slowly, saving rate adjustment few days ago, next will blr increased , property are slow down..gst coming which deteriorating current weak domestic market, are u all ready for this giant wave?

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2014-12-25 10:08 | Report Abuse

I just wannna to share u all use ur real money n time to invest this company, so don just judge by its financial report or annual report. First is their propert respond very good? Who can prove it, any property agent who sold their property can share? 2nd, why all their general line of nobody answerd the call, any expert can know how to contact them? Again, from its company cash flow, it had very good cash flow it mean it can accumulated share to its maximum by using third party to prevent touch 33% grey line but they didnt do it or we should we think big boss too kindness, let ushad time to accumulate n pick low, after few months goreng high which share profit together? All question i can't solve so i remain outside n never touch it no matter how low of its price

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2014-12-25 00:46 | Report Abuse

If this share can go up to rm 1 above, now money is small, who play property counter mostly also had property investment. If had bought few unit property last few year, max cash flow can play 200k to rm1mil is normal. Let say u buy 1000 lot approx 500k and aim 3 year return by profit 500k cos unbilled sale for next three year a lot. But this half year no matter how colorful result, i only know no ppl pick up ur call when u call their office . I had make few call to know their company growing in future from their staff not website. Again no ppl pick up my call, this raised my curiosity. Again, never play the counter if u unable to understand them well such as csl, talamt, etc..

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2014-12-16 10:10 | Report Abuse

It is just the game, loser almost appear, can u imagine bank suddenly give u 17% interest, meanwhile currency drop 13% within one day? It happen yesterday in one big country. That mean crude oil price war are in final stage. Obviously, russia Putin are not expert in finance war , there are more strong on military. Again, Russia are in weak now but not game over. Personal thinking, crude oil will drop further until russia collapse, it will be very soon n fast..after that, crude oil will stable back.

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2014-12-16 01:17 | Report Abuse

Big boss had said many time any major corporate exercise will be on 6 mths after they fully.converted LA. For october until march, they will be no movie to see. Big fish not around, only small fish eat each other, when close to new year the condition will be worsen cause need.to sold for new year use. I had warn many time never buy even with flying color financial result latest.. big fish don move, dun acted hero to push price up, u will tired later cos no one support u..hope small player can survive until mid of next year ..keep in mind, big fish move, we move. If he sleep, u move make sure u are one of big fish bigger than them.

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2014-12-16 00:50 | Report Abuse

This year local fund n foreign fund expert had emphasis many time year end target is 1900 point. Haha.. now wall street expert analysis forecast until mid of next year will be Usd 35 to 40 per barrel..should we believe this so called expert advice?
Business, stock just same with the game. Had profit vs loss, winner vs loser. So far, there is still not so clear who will be winner or loser in final. We know when playing the game , game over mean one of them is down or K.O..
So i dunno what is the bottom line of crude oil, but one thing will confirm is crude oil will rebound only when one of the country or economic is collapse or down espcially Russia. If russia down, at least wall street player can grab almost 500billion usd of their reserve money. then they will replay the game n push crude oil to stable market..i not believe so called over supply, opec wanna kill shale oil player by lower price . For ppl had accumulated with high price just hold until they restart the game. For those who wanna buy low, that is not good time to accumulated, pls enter when u notice one giant loser appear especially Russia..

Good luck n good night..

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2014-12-15 11:22 | Report Abuse

I buy rm1.3, didnt sell rm 1.4, cut loss at rm 1.03 n rm .87, lose 7k, no choice, learn from mistake.

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2014-11-28 09:51 | Report Abuse

Paper loss few k, with epf + foreign fund selling. No way can run, just take it easy. Again, this is within my acceptable loss, no one can always win or lose.. anyway just paid some money to watch either this is politic politic against russia or just simple demand vs supply theory. But both also will not last for long..be patience, enjoy the show...focus on work, few month later, u will get what u want..

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2014-11-27 13:20 | Report Abuse

Contra player for today will be a very good experience for this counter.. with low volume before financial result, that mean no big fish accumulated for join this game, but after financial result come out, market had plenty of share sold to small shareholders n contra player..that mean big fish or other pick low small shareholder previously sold today...beaware n wake up.. price is determined by supply n demand concept..if everbody buy for long term , this counter will be steady grow, but reality is most smallshareholder buy n Hope win 5 to 10% profit within 3 to 4 days, again without big fish support, it will back to square for panic sell in T3 or trap by pick up..financial result doesnt mean will lift up this share, it must be buyer intention more than selling side. Hope contra player will not burn their money after 3 days later...good luck

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2014-11-22 16:29 | Report Abuse

Good or bad news just normal. If i had cimb, just paper loss, most important is see how cimb overcome it, if my personal thinking is they cannot have better solution to settle it, the longer time taken, loser will be cimb and shareholder. Debt is important key, but if their the money to expand its core business in right way as investor expectation. this is normal to any company. if u think next 2 quarter will improved a lot, then hold . If we think next two years will not improve, sold n wait another 2 years. No need to share the loss with cimb for few years even u are fall in love this counter..

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2014-11-22 14:52 | Report Abuse

Kian leong lim: you are fall in love in this counter, that why most bad news from cimb u will prefer accept it . It is good u had confidence about this counter. Be frankly, if u are had this counter few year, i don think your results is good.. are u expected current price with your investment since u buy this counter ? If u cannot predict your own price target after few times, this mean we are not understand well about this counter n not suitable for us..try to view on difference angle if u do not any single lot of this share, then ur analysis is still same with previous, then only one word, persistent..

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2014-11-19 12:51 | Report Abuse

All good company must be with grow slowly n firmly follow by its fundamental results. Try to think if u are the owner of this company, will u let just ur company flow like roller coaster? It mean all the while major shareholder linked with other big shark to eat small fish with the concept GST . If u are small fish , make sure u are olympic champion n swim faster than other. Remember, before God wanna to end u, he will make u crazy first..

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2014-11-15 02:28 | Report Abuse

Shale oil technology had been started use by usa since 4 yrs ago which increased their capacity output. It is not special news to me and i know it few years ago. Actually i m in oil n gas industry approx 10 years n know most of their company background. Actually their risk not on price of crude oil, they are more on currency, secure job on hand,management.. shale oil help oil n gas industry make more money not cause the price down in fact. Don just listen all what cnn, Bloomberg ,etc, .. News always share the certain expert "opinion or mind" not the fact or truth. This will be last time leave comment, otherwise no ending reply or laugh by people..haha..good luck everybody. Will be appear again if this counter break rm 4 , otherwise just shut up my mouth..

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2014-11-15 01:14 | Report Abuse

is any evidence proof crude oil slump related to the oil n gas counter acted like free fall?
if really crude oil fall around 50-60 dollar per barrel within next three months, do any investor will feel skpetro will be drop to rm2 also not suprised? i not believe predict n guessing, just find out the hints n tips..
First , we had the history n data how the crude oil jump in 2007 which usd140/barrel, reason is unstable of politic in middle east which investor worry shortage of supply will boost the oil price jump.
But current situation, all the news from various source confirm we are in oversupply condition, somesaid is politic issue wanna collapse russia economic.

So the key point is OVERSUPPLY cause slump price which will cause oil n gas counter sink continuously? that is what mostly investor emotion or mindset and reflect its price , to investor any crude oil drop will drag oil n gas counter as well, IS THIS MOSTLY INVESTOR THINKING?

So, i find the past 15 years record for investor to analyse yourself as below,
2000-2004= approx usd30/barrel stable
2005- mid 2009= started climb to usd 100/barrel , highest usd140/barrel for short period
mid 2009 to 2010- drop back to usd 70/ barrel
Recent three year average approx usd 100/barrel,

Then i find Local oil n gas counter to analyse to compare the crude oil price fluctuate toward it performance result, see any related with them, so i choose Petronas counter , more people know, their result recent ten year as below, pls find urself if for accuracy,
YEAR 2002 TO 2014
turnover from 1.95billion , 2.23billion, 2.3billion,2.8billion,2.83b,2.98b,3.1b,3.4b,3.2b,3.52b,3.57b,3.89b
Profit from 487million, 656mil,641mil,823mil,971mil,1.24bil,1bil,928mil,940mil...1.6bil,1.27bil
From above , i conclude 2 point,
1) demand always keep increasing even world economy weak in year 2007-2008 , year 2011-2013..
if you traced from past 30 years , it also show same things, demand always keep increasing n non related with the crude oil price.
2) with higher crude oil pricing will help oil n industry make more money/profit.overall they still able gain huge profit no matter crude oil in usd50, usd80, or above usd100/barrel.

So i now realise why the opec country, usa, oil producer country are reluctant to reduce supply. first world crude oil consuming are still increasing n not related with the economy weak cause we can seem crude oil demand is more related with our current population. Second, even crude oil drop will let them earn less, but they can increased their production to cover price drop to maintain the profit..

since skpetro had few year record history, this counter turnover n profit are not so good for reference,
but from history turnover increased from 8billion to current 10billion per year since 2012.
so skpetro counter background is explore , construct which more follow on oil n gas demand.
if demand more, their job also more n turnover also increased, their profit also non related with crude oil price factor but more on it own management, operating, etc.

Am i all so over fear/worry about the crude oil slump? actually in fact usd60-70 barrel is just back to the market normal price . in fact with lower crude oil price also will not make skpetro earn less in their profit n turnover since they are not produce oil , they are explore , engineering, contruct, commission background..

This is just my penny analysis, hope u all had more picture on the counter u invest, if my analysis is mistake , pls amend me..Good luck everybody,,,

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2014-11-14 17:38 | Report Abuse

I mean little is 250 lot 40 cent lose bought at rm 2.4 something earn same amount when it rebound rm 2.8 above ,just earn back my 40 cents back...is just number of game..the important part is control emotion

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2014-11-14 17:31 | Report Abuse

Orlandooi, our purpose in forum here are gather more useful info or resources which we miss, then reorganize info. We not here to laugh , insult ,throw stone on somebody. All here are small shareholder , no point hurt each other because we are in same boat .. sorry if i had any offensive to u first. Just as movie said, united strong, fight become weak..

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2014-11-14 17:21 | Report Abuse

Kenny 992020,so far from klse anouncement, epf keep accumulated as vin cullen said
In klse , Epf support more important than big boss support. they had billion share, i only 50,000 share..if they not scared, why we should we worry. Up n down is normal, i had paper loss 100k per day in inari counter , but recover soon n earn little in final..if u are deeply analysis on the counter u invest, u not worry up n down...don miss every major correction, but pls don play contra, no one can predict the price, if for long term, i m quite confidence about this counter..bye bye..

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2014-11-14 17:04 | Report Abuse

Kenny 992020: every sector got their own pe n fundamental. Eg, pe for ppbank is 18, while cimb is 13, so can defined cimb is much more cheaper than ppbank if we just considering pe factor to go in as reference. Same , for oil n gas sector range 15 to 40 also had. After major correction, if u still had confidence on oil n gas counter in future, then skpetro is much more cheaper compared other oil n gas counter.that is why the volume n price are stable compared other oil n gas counter, it mean resistance of this counter are more strong compared other because more investor had more confidence about this counter...

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2014-11-14 16:56 | Report Abuse

Orlandooi: pls share something useful info. Wasting time to reply. 2 type of people, buy or not buy, market always cannot predict, no winner or loser. Don always share the target price as fortune teller, pls ugrade yourself, don always use the rude words, no meanig to us, just show ur low grade mentality..

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2014-11-14 16:15 | Report Abuse

For those who are not interest on buy or not holding this counter, u had freedom to share ur opinion, but keep predict future target, are u wasting ur time n life. U had no other meaning things to do, what a pity guy. Go to buy ur interest counter, don acted as mad dog just shouting ur existence, no ppl will bother u. Same thing, if u don like the girl or break up with ur girlfriend, don just critics how bad of the girl , sleep with many guy. What u need to do, just left quietly if not suitable for u n choose ur favourite counter. Johnmasimo, be mature in share market n ur life..

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2014-11-14 10:06 | Report Abuse

Big boss tarik jaring, hope u are not of one small fish...

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2014-11-14 10:01 | Report Abuse

If u cannot accumulated when ppl n market fear, make sure u throw.otherwise u will angry urself why don buy more. Samething, when drop further,u will angry urself waste bullet. Believe own judgement..if market had timetable for this counter rm3, rm 2.8 n rm 2, i had prepare my own menu. Currently 50 lot at rm 3.17, will accumulated another 50 lot at rm 2.9 n another 50 lot at rm 2.5...if urself cannot believe own judgement, no excuse believe other n lose money..calm n peace ..

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2014-11-14 09:28 | Report Abuse

Stupid people always not difficult found more stupid audience.. usually if they are smart enough they will not called themselves king , god , prince of stock. Most of high hand low profile, only stupid person always predict today, future..last night still said dow joned drop 100 point 101%.. sigh, hope he will not find other more stupid follower...

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2014-11-08 01:10 | Report Abuse

In share market, never believe anyone said . There is no one can predict the future include major shareholder itself, up n down is normal. The most important is your own emotion. U will simply sold or cut off loss when u afraid lose more. Be steady n peaceful mind, don all in otherwise u will lose ur own judgement unless u r very confidence. This counter will be back to rm 4.5 above or below rm 2.5, hope most people are guessing right.