i buy more on mathematic theories, when i buy inari at rm2.2 also 50 lot, i calculate almost 40% major correction discount from rm 3.3 , last month market slump due to fear on euro economic and usa ecomomic outlook.. but i see this counter fundamental is good n the price on below rm2.2 below is temporary, some lucky man are maybe buy at the lowest price rm2.04...but i will not wait to buy lowest..maybe it will drop further, but not so much , so decide buy at rm2.2 50 lot , lucky within 3 days sold around rm2.7..

now i think for skpetro almost same, it drop due to worry of crude price slump recently that why reflect its price on most oil n gas counter. this counter profit n turnover increased every year, but again impact on crude oil slump cause this counter drop from rm4.96 to below rm 3.1 almost 50% discount on major correction. The reason of crude oil slump had many reason, i don want explain so much such as conflict between russia n usa, new technology of usa which cause the crude oil capacity increase, world economic slow. i more concern things is even we had alternative energy replace, but i don think they will use it because crude oil is a big cake to any country to control their people n involve quite complicated economic

So this impact just temporary, maybe this counter will drop rm3, but future will still break rm5...every 50% major correction price drop , i will not miss, buy rm3.17 last two days 50 lot..n will hold above rm4 n see...the reason i buy is the future of oil n gas will not change still play very important role in our life.. this is not same with zhulian, zhulian drop rm5 to rm2.1 something recently , but the future of zhulian unpredicted due to unstable of thailand politic, domestic sale drop due to competitive direct selling, higher expenses to invest due to new investment on myamar..we must know how to different it.. good luck everybody...

Don need worry , if oil n gas counter die all, i more happy, lose 100 over k not big deal, big major shareholder will lose 10 billion, whole oil n gas sector lose at least 500 billion, they not afraid, why so worry.. be happy in trading... eye view wide n far..enjoy the game...

Anyone if for long term, they had their own target price n will not influence by people. Last day Mas had play good show for us, silly people just believed the rumour n throw below 26 cents below. Smarter people pick low below 20 cent laugh until today.. i buy 50 lot at rm 3.17 almost rm160k, admire other can buy below rm 3.1 , no bullet but didnt play contra.. just wait another 1 months... even 1 to 3 years also can wait..good luck ecerybody

Klse 1997, if drop to rm 2, u don need to buy this counter la , u can buy petgas, it maybe rm 10 only.more worth it..n klse index only 800 point.. hope ur dream can come true. Ur brain so amazing..

Aiyo, why so afraid, last four day volume who bought rm3.3 to rm 3.4 average facing force selling especially close 4pm later.. all the bad news on crude oil we had know, n today crude oil are stablewithin these two days, that mean investor are easy to the bad news. When all the bad news past, the good news will be come.. holding power n cash is the king is the rule of share market. Now for people buy low, u also very difficult people will sell u below rm 3..contra player susah this week for this counter.. good luck everybody...

Most of investor always thinking buy when it really lowest, when major correction 40% drop almost from highest 4.96 to recent rm 3.15 to rm 3.2, then they will think rm 3, maybe rm 2.5. But what they aim? Buy rm 2.5 sell rm 2.7 with 50 lot earn 10k a day..? If u play like this, i need to admit u arw lucky guy..but the true is this type of people always miss the boat. If u think reasoable of this counter are rm 4 to rm 5 when crude oil are above 80usd barrel.. is golden chance to grab now.. it is samething happen on inari counter, when drop to rm 2.1 , other investor will said it will break rm 1.8 or below rm 1.5, but the true is rebound rm 1 to rm 3 within 3 days when it hit lowest. Good luck everybody

This share quite similar with cimb , when drop of panic selling, local fund will support..support is very important key.. first all the bad news from recent crude oil slump had gradually will be absorbed by investor... again, pick low with holding power usually chances is high...don miss oh..i pratice on inari when rm 2.07, pick cimb when rm 6.17, again buy some for this counter at rm 3.17

All the while just think major shareholder using insas platform n cashflow to increase more inari share. That why inari always perform better than insas...Why sudden i had a thought maybe other major shareholder can attack back insas by accumulated insas share. Control insas mean control inari, frm, etc. If really other inari shareholder had intentions to do it, insas will fly unstop . Is it possible?

Active trader: in this world , money only will not cheated us. So sometimes, certain jump record high n hit lower past few years we must know the reason behind it. Indeed, affin bank compared cimb, maybank, pbbank are cheaper. Why people willing to selling with this price as low as rm3.2 to us. Most valueable of company things is change and challenge especially nowadays. For bank sector, future trend is merge n extend to oversea because domestic market is getting more competitive. The benefit of merge n expanding is reduce operating cost n increase profit. Obviously affin bank are not acted fast as others n that why it reflect the price. The price will up unless merge ..

For Cmmt , ya, kuantan new shopping mall which better than berjaya shopping mall. I think the business will be increased furthetmore after completed another extension. Queen sbay mall also generate quite good income. Disadvantage of Cmmt is which contribute 28% of it annual turnover are sg wang plaza. Poor management of cmmt for handling sg wang business which almost retailers shop drop 60% sale, they still had no solution yet unless point the finger to mrt and sg wang manager ...

I bought rm6.17 last two days. Paper profit few k, today buyer trend very strong, wait n see tomorrow.. so far i buy n sell based on emotion of investors. So far, tomorrow buying power will be stronger than today if euro n usa side tonight not fluctuate or drop so much.

Don need believe so much about target price. All bought based on own judgement. It maybe will drop further to rm 6 but rebound also fast cos this stock so famous with politics background, most local fund will come to pick up the cheap price. The chances to back above rm7 is quite normal. Don worry unless u play contra. With good share n 5 yrs lowest price, the chances u lose money same with you strike magnum or toto first prize

Johnte: only 1 point agreed on u as your action taken. Buy cheap sold high, at least u bought rm.515 which show paper profit now. Previous agm got mentioned bonus issue, but latest this good news had not mentioned in latest agm mean next year will not had bonus issue. Major share daughter are capable as his father. I don think his brother can better than her, so far the news highlight of andrew chew is surrounding topic of rich son which take private jet with his girlfriend older than him 14 years old for holiday. But don ruled out his backup strong team will assist him.

After three day gain for dow jone, it drop last night. Should be normal for investor taking the profit. The news on today 4pm euro side will be more interesting which related the euro zone economic data n pmi index. I will buy this counter after the results come out. To me is ok bought after rm3 if the data is good to prove the euro are improving ..

No fortune teller this world la. Even big boss cannot control price. Highest n lowest within 14 days are around rm3.26 n rm 2.04. Current price rm 2.65 ro rm2.7 which average ofthe price. It show investor are 50% confidence level. I believe price is determined by investor not fundamental . Beaware the news on euro side on 23/10 4pm show their pmi index n fed reserve meeting on interest rate issues. This two news probably will effect mostly toward investor for inari either break above rm3 or below rm 2

Inari will drop back below to rm 2.5 , cos euro future are all red again. Nikkei drop 300 point again. No need worry for long term buyer, contra buyer ..erm.. good luck..

All the oil n gas industry why down? Nothing special , lose money due to operating cost higher than selling price..

Euro market drop again, usa future market drop. On fear time (rm 2.04 to rm 2.1) we should maintain little optimistic, on good time (gain 60 cent almost 30% within 2 days, a bit risky fortoday buyer), do u think the it just small rain, sun appear again? This week full of company , economic data ,Fed meeting , Euro enion fed bank meeting, fanstatic week again. Expected good news is usa company such as apple n ibm will post good earnimg quarter results. Bad news is euro zone such as german, france will post continued weaker pmi data which show their economc down. Unknown news is interest rate of euro will continue zero ? Second news is QE 3 will be ended this months, any alternative plan ? Besides, china economic data will post tomorrow morning...

This week will be turning point either maintain this share back to above rm 3 or below rm2. The hints is watch news on 23/10 4pm. Manufacturing n servicing index pmi index include europe, german, france will be announced . Besides Usa data also fall on this week, this will be interesting week ... good luck every body..

Unless dow jone can maintain 16500 above, otherwise just play short term, try to see dow jone tonight, even future show up almost 200 point, but during real time hour around 8 hours can test their confidence level..usa investor had more information n more carefully. Just watch usa show tonight, i predict will not up more than 200 point closing.

I grab at rm1.7 for inari wa yesterday 40,000 volume, just sold today. During the good time, must keep n hold . I also believe this counter. First this counter are in good industry n making the huge profit. But next few months the share price will be affected mostly by investor emotion especially this few ten days. Why? Most small shareholder include big fund manager had diverse thinking due to different sourcing of information n not refer to the fundamental of this share. For me , euro crisis is appear again , pls refer germaneconomic index, 2nd, russia and Ukraine, Usa crisis havent game over, 3rd , hot money pull back problem from usa havent had good picture, ebola effect ? That is main issue concern me..

After continue loss almost 40% by 7 trading day, it finally technical rebound. Expected will recover half loss by 2 days but one day this movie had finished it with today. It prove local investor are emotional and thinking the problem had settled.pls watch usa dow jone market tonight, it will rebound but will not more than 200 point.The reason is ffundamental of world economic are weak, QE 3 will be ending this month. There is no any solution to solve euro recent crisis n interest rate issues. So congrat for investor who sell today , it will be risky who bought price range rm 2.5 above. It is good counter, if dow jone can break support level on 16500, it is just good time to buy. Samething, if this counter break through rm 2.04 support level, i believe next ten year u will not play this counter again... calm down, think deeply this counter and world market environment. There must be reason up n down. Becareful ...

Technical rebound. No sign showed the euro economic and Fed will maintain the interest rate.

Anyone had had inari 100k volume above in hand now ? Can share some opinions about this stock? Cos forum too many small shareholder n opinion always changes..

Most of people think long term of this counter can be rm 5 and rm 10 probably. If u in long term, not so worry the price will drop to rm 2 or below. Up n down is normal, most of small shareholder think sell high buy low. But if u had confident n believe, why so worry. Are you just aim rm 1.8 0 or rm 1.5 just sell rm 2 to earn 50 cents. Think long term. If your target price next three year is rm 4 to rm10. Then u can collect anytime which below your target price. I collect rm 2.4 20,000 unit , if drop to rm 1.8 i will collect another 20k unit, if below rm 1, i will collect 100k. I not worrry this counter drop because every risk had golden opportunity in the sametime. I still remember my fren collect Us 1 for citibank during 2007 with 1mil unit n within 1 year sell at Us 11. Earn us 10 mil..every investor information collected are varies, that why price are fluctuate . Had faith n believe, otherwise just react normal people , sold...sold. ..whole life just follow other doing

During turbulence time, play short term. Today probably Will closing rm 2.6 to rm 2.7. Tomorrow if dow jone ride another 200 point will be maintain on rm2.75 tomorrow.

Bought 50k at rm 2.41 .. it will turn green today..

This counter are more depend of strong sale of smart phone such as iphone n samsung, etc..it will rebound like umwog, armada, ksl. U can see strong local fund are pick up.. today will closing above rm2.6

In market versus is depend on which one is bigger and faster to win. Big fish eat small fish i don need to explain much, most people know. But world market especially big investment bank had better technology which can buy n sell less than 0.2second.more reference pls refer book "flash boy" . Their chances to win are almost 95 to 99% in their past record. Be aware , analyst yourself. Basically market up n down is common, the only question is how much bullet n how long you can stand? If can maintain 2 to 3 year should be not worry about this crisis.

The saturn return advice and tips make most people lose money, i am curiosity which claimed by himself bought 2mil share by him until today is still holding yet.. haha.. never believe news and tips spread by some expert. Is ok, pay money to learn experience.. don blame people also. This is freedom of market rule

Recently the asia market n world market is fluctuate due to few reason. Don so silly think that the share will continue up with material increase, gst, etc. Since the euro crisis on 2009 , what the world market action take is printed more money n lower interest rate. That why most investor use this lowest interest rate tool to invest share n property . Again , people are easy forgotten n over optimisc. From 2009,klse had rebound from 850 to 1900 highest. This scenario happen too in other world market. Recent conflict between russia vs Ukraine had raise most people concern that Usa are impose economic punishment toward russia. All the big fund manager and federal usa are united together to collapse the economic of Russian by attacked their currency n share index. In meanwhile Usa also need enough bullet to fight russia because russia also big country with strong reserve national treasure. So what Usa do, simple.just increase the interest rate which will cause world investor money flow back to usa to help Usa to fight russia. Recent report by Imf spread news that third country asset are high risk and will be correction and advise investor avoild it. China and german economic also slowed down. Last time 2007 market slump is due to bubble of mortgage. This time market slump will be cause by usa over printing money. Never pick the falling knife. If i didnt guess wrong, L&g will back to.Rm .40 to 45 cents within 3months...i don want to spread bad news, just hope contra player be aware. If really wanna buy this counter , good time is april onwards....

Sell now if u play contra. It will be drop further. Furthermore, budget will not bring any good news on it. It can be seen drop few days all property share.Long term this share will loook good.

Rm .565 to rm. 575 is almost price which on end of august before ride 10% on 30 aug on rm .690 So collect this point, rebound point but must had bullet to play. I wanna to see where this big fish movement. Must pay fee to see ppl last card. It is natural rule of game.

Just bought another 20000 unit. Be steady. Is good time to collect..

No earn at least learning...penny stock mostly like this. Past 10 years during 2007 fail due to overspend and wrong investment. This few years grow due to good luck as blooming property. Hold strong cash flow but didnt buy any land bank, unbelievable. 1000 hectares in lembah beringin nothing special due to the location no potential for township development, likely manage as palm oil or other agriculture product. As a conclusion, from previous management change to new management, same mistake repeat, their view are narrow n short..poor management that why reflected on this share. Hope another 2nd major shareholder exist and change all the current director..they are sleeping and didnt do their job.

The reason why this counter will not move, 1st , no ppl want( no other substantial holder that mean no ppl fighting with them to grab the share .eg counter layhong, QL is the 2nd major shareholer, privatized with 40% than offer price...2nd, the major shareholder are in comfortable zone(32.5%) not exceed 33%, agm also mention will not privatized. That mean big fish stomach are full. Again, if really for privatise(in fact, more benefit to majorshareholder), at least is 6mths after they converted the LA..this just my thinking, no intention to influnce buy r sell toward investor

Where is saturn return ? Nvm believe so called "expert" , believe yourself. Do enough homework, then not afraid up n down.

Again, if L&G really go for privatize, in their announcement they had made in latest annual report, any corporate exercise (privatise, bonus award,) must be done after 6 months later from the date they converted the LA if had. So contra player expert must know this info..good luck everybody

Total new share / profit whole year= new pe. But pe is reference not determine the price fluctuate.

I just share some of my opinion, hope most investor don laugh me oh. First most of small holder range between 100 to 200,000 or slightly above will buy L n G based on this counter low PE, NTA are higher than offer price, profit are improving a lot, beside target price indicate RM .785 which 15% margin we can earn. I small holder just same with u all and almost 200,000 (200lot) accumulated and wish can "small knife cut big tree. The question arise in mind is same with other, why this counter hanging on .64 to .66. Now, i learn something from this counter. First , this counter so called undervalued counter had been so many years why until now still remain same, the reason i guess is most of previous fund manager or investor no confidence about the future L&G, that why it reflect of the share price. If low pe or NTA, counter such as insas, seal, also had same case n price attractive. Then the target price which forecast by UOB kay hien just become top 30 shareholder recently,so do u think they can forecast independently? The lembah beringin project is too far from kl, almost 1 hours ride without jam from duta toll. I don think their respond is good if really converted from agriculture to residential projects. Australia hidden valley is good example to prove their view or management is wrong cos losing money (Agm don clarify how much their total investment lose). Look at ksl, when L&G 68cent on 31/7, ksl only rm 2.8,. So it is not suprise it climb to rm 4 something cos ksl are my favor counter but didnt buy, sigh..but after announcement show director ksl increased his share, so small fish follow big fish n push again ksl to rm 4.9 today. Every share up n down had it own reason, i just personal think who need who more? If the major shareholder really need smallshareholder, then the price will up, or in contrast. Even, management had mentioned they are planning invest to bought land at klang valley, johor, penang, even vietnam. Andrew chew is lack of experience with 25 years old, but his father can cover him, i not worry about this. And david chew most famous chinese kung fu is sell high buy low. So be honest speaking, i don think they will increased their land bank n not surprised the price will remain same since their cash flow very strong.Anyway, if cannot earn what we want, at least i learn what i want. Good luck everybody....

Khkyl, i just beginner not pro as others, sorry cant give any advice for u. My only advised to u sold when the major shareholder decreased their share. David chew also use 7 years to play this game,do we think we r smarter than him who can earn 20 to 100% profit within few weeks or months?

So my personal thinking, this half year we acted as small holder will just send bullet to chew family for them to grab more share. Good news maybe need to wait another half year. If management is good, they will announced bonus share . To me bonus share is the basis fundamental to prove their sincerity. Again, chew family is Old Fox,, hope small holder had long life to grape the fruits.it maybe need to wait another half years time..

Most of the listed company major shareholder is not stupid, if they are stupid,they will not be major shareholder. Hence, we r just small holder ,analyst and do homework. First, for any new share issue private placement by bonus share,right issue,warrant,LA,etc ,objctive of major shareholder is raise the fund to do his "special project". That why one year ago before Iculs announced, the price is press down by major shareholder with the reason hope small holder will not fight with them to grab the share. After this, the major shareholder grab almost 48% of this LA which help the major shareholder increased from approx 14.75% to 25.1% today,(noted they are 100 million LA not converted yet which not touch the grey line 33% which force them to privatise or bought over the company . We can guess chew family share accumulate which fully converted their LA will be 32.5%(approx). Then they announced "2% dividen, so most of small holder rush for convert the La to ordinary share to get 2 cents dividen this months. Today AGM most highlight is management had planned another 10% new share(i dun know in which method).. conclusions, we atill remember they issue Iculs with the reason to raise fund for putrajaya office building with pay the 1% to shareholder,(usually it can be defined company cash flow not strong). But in reality, they grab 48% of this share issues. So we know their main objective of chew family is increased their share to had more power. So, "Major shareholder are lie the small holder". Now , small holder aim 2 cents but need to paid the another 13cents(for LA initial costing), actually is small shareholder give the money to major shareholder spend . Pls be remember price increased or down is meaningless , only small shareholder are concerned about it. We r small holder can buy n sell at any time n any volume but not to major shareholder. So chew family had play us 1 time, now i think is big fish eat small fish. They will not facing difficulties to grab new share issue based on AGM agenda to stable their position in L n G. I don think we can get any good benefit from them. Wish all player good luck..

It is not correct price of house will not drop. It still follow demand versus need theory.history teachus country as big as USA or China and as small as Singapore of housing price down, why reason very simple, over supply. Latest financial results of banking sector also drop, why? Housing sector sale are slow due to strictly loan approved. Why, banking is not government protected, they are doing business. They also know the risk management and try to more strictly on loan application. Few year ago, condo such as YTl are below 250k which husband n wife can buy each for rental or invest. Now min condo at least 500k , some property near mrt are 700sft to 900sft, for middle income family can afford one, but how about others, unless their income is increased a lot. Anyway, i don think so, even gst, material, land are going to increased, but trtransaction will be less cos buying power are weak, next year end will be tough year for investor n developer too...

Sinced 2007, chew family emerge as major shareholder by bought L@G around 8.35%, up to last year they managed to accumulate become 13.85% . Obviously, when the company turn good , it is vry difficult to accumulated the share unless with better offer price. That why had "iculs" with the excuse to raise money to buy putrajaya office for collect rental 5% which diversed it business and risk management. Wah, so lousy excuse. Anyway , by latest annual report, we know chew family in l n g mother share are 14.7% and warrant 48.5% accumulated, so this is real purposed for iculs which increase their shared . If they fully convert their La to mother share , i think almost can reach 40%.. try to imagine why a so bright future outlook share are undervalued? They had one obvious reason, big shareholders are accumulated their share quietly n press the price down. I guess only, their main purpose are takeover , that can be explain why this share price not moved.. good n smarter small share holder, don simply sold ur share, must had long run with major shareholders oh

Saturn return always talk good about this counter, earth always talk bad about this counter

what it mean? again share price is reflecting the investor emotion and not company fundamental..

the major shareholder spend money and time by 3 year to restructure and branding, 3 years for marketing and boosting its business, recent 2 years enjoy the profit. we are small investor who wanna enjoy the results by half year or other "expert" by one week collect the "sweet apple", do we think we are smarter investor than the major shareholder? be patience and waiting, no shortcut, faster by gambling in Genting hill..this is just my small opinion , wish all of u good luck.

difference between big fish VS small fish, BIG fish sold the share only if he think the company future outlook is bad, SMALL fish sold the share just because the share price increase and hurry for its small profit..Again, this counter are very good training in stock market, just watch the show today. SHARE PRICE IS NOT REFLECT BY THE COMPANY FUNDAMENTAL INSTEAD IS INVESTOR EMOTION TOWARD THE COUNTER.

as a property share counter, first this company don had enough land bank, so far the ampang element and sri damansara project are developing, the 1000 acres in lembah beringin potential to develop as mix development residential are not suitable due to location. the project in australia are losing money and havent had any news of this issue, board management are planning to invest in vietnam also had the risk due to unstable politic n economic in vietnam. besides, big boss from hong kong background are used to develop "hartamas housing area such plaza hartamas, etc. this boss style or chinese kung fu are buy the rubbish share or company, such as 6-7 years ago L &G, after that this boss will refurnished, rojak, develop the brand or name of the company his bought, final SELL with good price as his PROFIT, businessman style...must aware any announcement of this share made....

http://klsecompany.blogspot.com/2014/07/l.html , but is chinese word..this blogger not bad..just analysed advantage n disadvantage of the share, again, the decision is yours not him..