i dont, but that just how it go, these kind of people call contrarian , most of them just want to make money out of the air, u can ask someone else as i do not know how to explain to you.

easy.. normally if T4 no people willing to buy with higher price, those people that buy on margin in T1 will have to force selling if they do not pay for it.

on T4 before noon, broker house will force selling for their client if they do not receive payment from their client.

the day for force selling =)

i thought today is T4, the price suppose to drop?
someone goreng it?

actually buying a stock is not gamble, it is a prediction for the future.

if a company that make profit steadily for the past 10 years, and i predict it will do well in the next 20-30 years , the odd is on my side.

if a company constantly make loss, keep bleeding, losing money , and still losing blood, and now suddenly a guy told me how good this company gonna be in a long run, i will have doubt, i cant predict the future of this company, the odd is not on my side.

so this is basically my definition of a stock, predicting the future, not gamble.

and if you are gambler, 9/10 times you will lose money, better believe it.

wow i really admire those that wrote such a long reply.

it can be profitable in 2 years time, it can also be bankrupt in 2 years time, and there is a big IF , as if it can be profitable.

well, if it can be profitable in 2 years time, why dont i just wait 1 and a half years, then only i put my money in?

why put my money in now?

every person that promoting a stock must have their own agenda, there is no free lunch in the world, think twice before making any decision.

.. i just use 15-20 minutes doing my ' due diligence ' , with all the knowledge i have, in my 2 cent perspective , i would not even want to invest a dine in this counter.

1st, the company is in red, it is losing money for years, money out and no money in, nuff said, it is bad.

the latest quarter report announce at 29 may 2012, and it still in red, revenue 396k , but loss at 417k , that (417/396)*100 = 105.3 % loss! are you serious? jfc!

in case you dont understand what it means, i give an example: you putting 100 ringgit in bank for 1 year fixed deposit, when 1 year pass, you go to bank for withdraw the money,u find out, not only your 100 ringgit is gone,instead ,now you own the bank 5.3 ringgit, is this making any sense?

would you want to put the 100 ringgit for fixed deposit?
would you want to put money in a company that burn you money?

wow just use 8 mins to write this comment..

but the strange things in bursa is.. loss company people rush to buy, good steady income company people ignore, so you might make some money in this counter, but remember, my opinion is.. just run while you can, if you make some profit, just run and never look back again.

my 2 sen.

break out then only sapu? already late lo bro.

osk is never a good counter

sime derby?

i use jupiter online, and there have free access to http://www.klsetracker.com/error_pages/ , and in klsetracker, it have the top 30 shareholder info. hope this help, no need thx.

aiya.. yesterday the quarter report out, profit drop to 69.64%, a breakout of bear might be?

huh.. what u means?

sorry, it is RM 1.34 , not 1.37

around 3 pm, there a one transaction of 10,000 lots , thats equal to 1000,000 * Rm1.37 = RM 1,370,000 in one transaction!!

who might be the person that buying it?

erm.. can you teach me how to invest in singapore exchange?

do they have T3 like malaysia? etc etc..

but berkshrine hathaway never pay dividend before?

apple din't pay any dividend for 15 years until recently?

dRsam @P.Lee , u could see the top 30 shareholders of jcy, apart from the big man 74% , the remaining 29 doesnt holding 5% or higher, so.. if it is them that doing the throwing, they dont have to announce it to bursa.

it is probably them, ammb , maybank , cimb , rhbcap+osk , 4 blue chips company, or day trader combine = price get press down.

anyway, their loss is our gain, dont be feel like trapped, it is now or later to collect at lower price.

look at those 1000 lots throwing in 5 row, who can afford to throw so heavily?

surely is not small fish or small shark.. if it is the big man throwing, it will have to announce it right?

anyone holding 5% of a listed company have to announce it buy/sell of the company shares, right?

9/10 trader make loss, i guess?

u said 'We buy share for the dividend.' ?

if so, why would people buy berkshire hathaway ?

the answer is, beside dividend, capital gain also the another factor.

but warren buffet berkshire hathaway never pay a dividend?

what about ponzi scheme?

this moron ROE also don't understand, i hope he get burned, stop giving false education!

big volume buyer.. who is them?

someone run away, someone must be trap , right? hahaha karma is a btich.

the 2nd interim dividend gonna approve soon?

those banks job is force the crowd to cut loss, because your loss is their gain.

there* will always have cut loss by contra kaki, margin call , they are force to cut loss, if you can simply buy and hold, the share price will only up in the long run.

but in such volatile counter, simply buy and hold is kind of silly, there will be a lot of $$ can made from it ( if you know what you doing )

7.94 cent + 40% for the remaining quarter?

this was post by lamken 3 months ago, obviously he is too optimistic.

optimistic is good, but over is bad.

currently the jcy china factory is start operating, it should add some extra capacity into the output, if everything run smoothly.

seagate currently trade at PE 6.84 , while WD at 8.96, i think.. jcy stock price should be value according to this 2 company.

so.. conservative EPS for year 2012 will be 32 cent, NAPS 55 cent.

let value jcy at PER 7, 0.32*7 + 0.55 = RM2.79

my opinion is , if the price of HDD gonna be stable for the next few years, conservative long term fair value of jcy will be RM2.79 per share.

just my 1 cent.

yes you are right.

the less liquid the stock = the less swing of the share price.

normally illiquid stock with good fundamental and good prospect is hard to get press down, just like Dlady, nestle.

but jcy is another case, people still skeptical about it, those banks really cant do much if the crowd does not believe it.

look at the history of jcy, it was one of the worst IPO listed , and one of the most expensive IPO.

don't hold any emotion for stock, or else you'll burn in the mountain of modor.. =D

the total mother shares of jcy is 2,044,860,000 , and technically all of the shares is in the market.

even the big man yky can sell and buy freely and directly in the market.

if the 2,044,860,000 reduce from 2 to 1 , it is call reverse stock split.

correct me if the statement is incorrect, thank you.

NKN1 , good question but i don't have the answer. =D

if im yky the boss, i will borrow money from bank and privatize jcy and relist jcy in hongkong.

EPS for year 2012 = 32cent ( estimated ) x 20 years + 50cent NAPS , IPO price RM6.9... hahaha

tabung haji have 0.69% of this stock, better avoid TH stock.

Posted by diablo88 > May 15, 2012 01:41 PM

'Fat Cat Tim Buddy', you tin kosong only. What have you contributed in this forum? You can disagree with lamken but why personal attack. who you think you are.
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hi,do i really can disagree?

i just put out some questions , the 'boss' lamken then shoot me like no tomorrow.

for those who follow lamken long enough, you all should feel there is some contradiction of what lamken said.

remember when he said there will be more cw, the mother share is more sacred, how many % left on the market etc etc??

then why so many dumping recently?

if the mother share is so badly needed by cw issuer , why they don't keep buying it for hedging?

just my 1 cent, maybe worthless. =D

I was cool until lamken pointing finger on me for stating the obvious.

I was angry but it make me see and think clearly, and now im cool again. =) and more clearer.

you small fish how to fight big shark?

oldpro still need education? ;)

last 2 weeks once the RSI already 93, seriously overbought, lamken still like very confident, saying what appetizers?

see the stock price now?

clearly the appetizers is not working, or it is not appetite enough.

better don't post about the '' mother share and sons is still profitable ''

mother share can be manipulate , sons is zero sum games , the investment bank will not lose, that means the some investor will get burn.

last February keep saying how this stock going up till RM 4 etc etc , then the stock plunge like no tomorrow , not until osk issue the warrant.

what appetizers ? the plunge is the appetizers?

invisible hand? talk cock meh, last minute call off?
keep promoting this stock across the internet. what the intention?

being nice? if so, you should make as much money as possible, let all those trader/investor that buy on margin cut loss, and you gain as much as you can, then donate 50% of it or 100% to thailand red cross la.

lol why so serious? .. nobody gonna judge nobody.

ya maybe u should stop posting, but i don't think u will stop posting =D

another lesson i learned is.. don't put emotion on stock.

it is 20 billions or 2 billions ? anyway, they only hold (roughly) 0.12 + 0.13 + 0.14 % of jcy.

im only posting the the possibility.

jpmorgan only having 0.29 + 0. 29 % of jcy shares? beside they having 20 billions loss recently.

74% yky big man cant do anythings.

like you said before, the price is really decide by all the investment bank, im saying the obvious , if the quarter report is really good, it really does not matter, because the big sharks will decide the price.

and ya, appreciate your kindness in replying some of the questions, you have been very helpful, no one deny it.

if you do not have time or patience to post, then don't.

god also you, ghost also you, last time keep saying how the hollow hand going do this do that, the end? price plunge.

appetizers? no clarify what is that also, the end? price plunge.

what going happen in few days time ? announce the quarter report? 5 cent dividend? price...

yes you didn't specifically denied you are ewik,my mistake, but only you know how many account you have in all kind of website.

and from the reply of certain user, we knew it was you.

i do not come for fight or blaming anyone, so please, relax.

lamken.. last time you denied you are ewik.

last time jcy announced the 1st quarter report, EPS + 1900% , but the price still plunge.

yes, we knew that osk was the one dumping huge quantities of jcy shares, what do u think that osk wont do the same this time?

Currently OSK is the third single largest shareholder in jcy, second is CIMB?

CIMB-OSK-RHBCAP all basically adik abang, with the big man 74%,he cant require anymore shares , this jcy game is basically single handed play by osk and cimb, they just selling to each other, either push up or push down, that.. just my 2 cent.

apart from that, currently jcy is doing great, about the intrinsic value of jcy, i not so sure about it, after all it is a tech company.

the 9 days rsi is 33, it is oversold.

macd is on downtrend, but why wait for signal?

when the signal is up, it is already late.

buy it when it in deep down, to gain further more profit. =)

fark

off~

TEH

http://announcements.bursamalaysia.com/EDMS/edmsweb.nsf/all/E75E175594AC24D4482579FA0018DE6C/$File/Appendix%20JCY-CL.pdf

http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/anpth/104222.jsp another osk call warrant +.+ exercise price 1.50 , ratio 2 : 1

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