And not all here shouting buy or sell on the shares, just a simple discussion, points raised up on the ongoing of the shares the company, agree to disagree. The rest, buy sell hold decision is up to all the intelligent investors out there

Buy or sell call is everywhere, some recommendations not even have anything to do with this counter at all. It is just a recommendation from the intelligent investors. The only so chai is the one who make the assumption that all these agree to disagree intelligent investors will melabur their hard earned cash according to recommendations and not their own intelligent evaluation of the shares...lol

Long term, guys....long term.. Like Bangmiskin said dont invest in harta if you have no confident  at all on the company prospect in the future. Thats it.

But those non shareholders still bombarded the counters with lots of "encouraging" comments...well it is a agree to disagree discussion afterall. Good people non shareholders giving their opinions worried for the welfare of harta shareholders, spending their  every precious minutes here with comments, predictions of the future.. should reward each of them the eagle scout award...lol.

PS: Investor2021trading...thumb up another good point raised on the BDGTM Nitrile Biodegradable gloves by harta...moving towards eco-friendly products, guess EU may take note of the effort made by the gloves manufacturer in protecting the environment.

Well, understood your stand on your assets and liabilities...now...my initial assumption of all in with the h.o.u.s.e was wrong afterall.. lol

Loss 9696...please read the past and ongoing comments on harta shares. We have the short term, long term, 90% who agree to disagree on the progress of harta. You may have a better evaluation on the shares upon reading the positive and negative views altogether.

Oh dear...many assumptions here...just be careful Mini2021, still the same old same...it is our hard earned cash afterall.

Mini2021, assumed you have taken all into considerations in making your decision .....we just dont know how low the price will drop further.

Mini2021...assumed the house sold was the many houses that you have in hand...lol...no still dropping as expected....

Quirkyways...agreed. We owned harta shares, we all agree to disagree with constructive discussions on the shares...in the end of the day it is up to all the intelligent investors out there to invest within their tabung melabur. Same as you, totally agreed from your day one comment, invest with due diligence and please do not be a god of gambler, be a responsible investor..it is our hard earned cash afterall.

Quirkyways, totally agreed

https://www.msn.com/en-my/money/topstories/epfs-hartalega-stake-falls-below-5percent/ar-AA10MwWj?li=BBr8Mk9

DestinyL....dumping at such a humangous amount within a short period of time at such price....when the co is still kicking and alive with nothing whatsoever negative news on the management except the market condition overall in tandem with the downturn in the economy worldwide ...I wonder if the future of glove industry is that bleak to proceed with such an "overkilled" strategy.

We are not god of gamblers nor demigod, lol.....assumed we all just invest within our tabung melabur based on
our logical evaluation of a fundamentally good company....indeed much is to be seen in the coming days

This is not the first time of sbb for the Company, logically like we all assumed ..price drop sbb...but of course resolution passed, doesnt mean all in for sbb, it is just the greenlight for the management to proceed with it...

Guys...I am also scratching my head on this aspect...that is why curious to find out pendapat of you guys, intelligent investors out there

The top four are manufacturing medical gloves

beinvested...just like any of us catching up with the hike in cost of living, the co is now facing increased in material cost, minimum wages which the management indicated not much effect since mostly are met in the past, hike in energy cost, hike in transportation cost, packaging cost etc etc.....I assumed these are faced by the China manufacturers as well and definitely aint cheap for the US manufacturers like Supermax....all in all cash definitely play a significant part in the survival of the fittest in the long run. There is definitely much to be seen in the performance of the management in the coming days.

Berbolabilu...dividend is received provided the company is still kicking and alive in the long run, I believe we all here wish for a long term dividend return from a good stable company, simple as it is.

Matklse....if it is indeed a heinous deliberate attack, all the logical discussion on the present and future of the industry might as well just throw into the tong sampah, I really have nothing to say. The industry itself is with strong players who have years of experience in the industry, putting Malaysia in the map of the world. If the industry is being attack from within our own, apa nak cakap lagi....sigh..saddening

If we are discussing the share price alone here, it is definitely aint rainbow up the sky. But when it comes to long term investment of a good company that is still kicking and alive with good profits and good decent returns to shareholders, we will need to evaluate the future and possibilities of the company in the coming days. Of course we will need to cross out the extraordinary profits and peak in the share price during the olden days of the pandemic.

Like Quirkyway said China has their own problems of covid, banking and property. They have problem with the other big power like US, Japan and may probably the rest as well due to the china taiwan issue....what is the possibilities in the coming days on the market shares of gloves in the long run still questionable, what important is how prepared is the Malaysia gloves manufacturers in grabbing the opportunity when it comes. Nobody wish a long standing industry that contributed great revenue to the country just die out, it is just a matter of support from all the relevant parties to brace through the downturn. The success of the industry is a win win for all, the country the owner the shareholders and the community.

Agreed, Bangmiskin

My only hope is the government will value the gloves industry in the country. If our own government is not protecting our own industry that contributed good revenue to the country, how are they, the gloves manufacturers able to put up a good fight against the competitors especially China for a bigger gloves market shares.

Need to look in the long run on the competition between china and malaysia gloves manufacturers in term of mass production and quality wise. It is still unclear which are the survival of the fittest.

In addition follow up on the comment by Investor2021trading, the issue of quality did raised up in the US market as FDA does have a stringent requirement on the quality of gloves. Cheaper price of china gloves, does it compromise the quality of the gloves?

Yes, definitely will look into these manufacturers and make comparison...from the outlook it seems that we have more advantages compared to the china manufacturers.

But china manufacturers do have lots of admirers from the non shareholders here

Already learned and acted based on facts and fundamental since day one and continue to learn as there is no limit in learning new things from sensible investors out there.

Great, more intelligent investors here giving their sensible inputs and opinions on the shares, learn and still learning.

WinBigOrLoseAll... the most important is the fundamental of the Company and its value. Holding real bargain price or not...great to know you guys out there owning the shares and still have the confident on the company. Love to read, at the same time learning, sensible opinions from you guys out there on the ongoing with new info along the way.

Hello...guy ...adidas ori in lazada on sales now...anybody buying good bargain shoes? ...lol

lol..warren buffet...not bad....lol

MrNatsuko is a good person...even as a non shareholder of harta, he is also worried over our welfare at this moment and wasting his precious time here warning us...agree to disagree...lol

Quirkyways kk7198...will take note of your advise, thank you

Here we do have lots of non shareholders sharing their opinions. A word or two over sensible agree to disagree opinions wont take much of my time as long as they dont tell me suffer with my shareholding masuk tgrambutan etc ...lol

Mr/Ms Natsuko?

Understandable, Anxious. Every investor has their own limit. Again sorry to hear that you had indeed incurred great losses on harta which I believe it is still within your investment fund. Hope you will be able to gain good returns from other investments.

MrNatsuko...like Bangmiskin cakap we are all small gamblers of the slot machine, betting some chips on harta just because we love this one of the four heavenly kings which are still very much kicking and alive lol...in the end of the day, it is up to the decision of each shareholders with the shares allocation in their portfolio

MrNatsuko...i believe intelligent investors out there are with their own portfolio, will definitely look into your suggestion, some may probably own some of the dnex shares by now

Gov supposed to assist rakyat not the other way around. During downturn, industry that contributed to the country revenue especially glove sector with humangous profits, with no hesitation at all donating millions of gloves during the pandemic to assist the healthcare workers, if not given any assistance at least not further alleviate the whole situation. The sector has given plenty job opportunities to the younger generation and good returns to the shareholders including EPF during good times. It is saddening during downturn, the industry is now being mocked left right top bottom karma revenge time etc etc with EPF continue dumping the shares to dirt price,  shareholders making losses and every abang adik akak suami isteri working in the industry may wonder what is coming next for them with the condition of the company the market,  overall economy of the country now plus high cost of living.  In the end of the day, who actually win in the whole process? Well, probably this is the share market afterall, big win for EPF humangous profit dumping shares with losses to all the related parties to the industry .........including the country with less revenue to collect in the coming days. Probably gloves sector is just a minor contributer to the country revenue. Ironic.

Superbull8798.....situpidddd EPF, lol.......definitely expecting "extraordinary dividends" from EPF since it is making so much profits from dumping shares all over the market

Sooner, think harta will cut cost, besides tutup those small kilang, will tutup Yayasan Hartalega no more community donation nor gloves donation as much cash is needed to survive the downturn

Lesson to learn....never be a god of gambler in the share market, invest within our portfolio investment fund

Ironic...wang rakyat EPF di guna untuk menurunkan harta rakyat yang melabur, bagaimana pula dengan adik abang akak mak bapak yang bekerja in these companies tengok harga shares syarikat merudum turun.....probably our EPF dividend is expected to hike up like there is no tomorrow in the coming days... saddening

Matklse...mungkin breaktime sekarang, re-energize with more bullets to fire again all over the place tomorrow...lol

Quirkyways...agree to disagree ...though i just dont understand most of the comments from khatu

Thank you Quirkyways, will definitely look into FIRL youtuber comments on the glove sector

QuirkyWay...agreed with yours and BangMiskin assessment...China seems like in the point of breakdown now with the property, banking and covid issue...gosh...looking at todays news there on Ikea containment due to covid, those people ran out helter skelter as if the apocalypse is coming. China definitely has its own big problem to settle at this moment, definitely interesting to see how the china manufacturers throwing the price like there is no tomorrow...at the same time with the military testing by china near the straits of taiwan, there are still possibilities in the coming day, probably not at this instant

Mini2021..2b interest till emak pun tak kenal the face...lol

Each bosses has his own way of managing their company, probably this is what they called strategic planning. Supermax setting up factory in the US to me is just on the no no side, imagine the cost of operation in usd...in addition a couple of new other factories are on its way now which I read the articles they are seeking for assistance from the gov... probably MrThai has already weight in all the pros and cons on his decision with huge cash in hand now. Quirkyway, that is why when the 90% raised the point of china competition in the forum, all these come into place including your previous comment on China Taiwan issue with the involvement of US, the repercussion of the whole possible outcome and where do harta stand in the long run in term of market share