My entertainment time is up. Got to do more important things now....

Baharuddin, u are also a promotor for this counter, but in a more subtle way. I think this argument can be more "convincing" than say, using the daily vols traded figures.

All said, it still depends on the operator's game plan. No one can be 100% sure when the rebound will take place and for how long.

Even some TA experts can fall prey to a shark who knows how to draw an uptrend chart to confuse pp and invite their participation.

I always say, if an operator is so easy for pp to guess its action, he must be a lousy operator!

Sad to say that, in a stock mkt, the greatest con artists are none other than the operators(or sharks). They do not use words, but vols, to "con" pp.

Their jobs are to "confuse" innocent investors who think they know how mkt works.

I have so many postings. Do I speak like one?

Since u asked me this question, pls identify yourself too. Are u from gp 1, 2 or 3 forumers on this thread?

And more importantly, my posting did not invite chasing out as i was very subtle.

Haha...

I answer based on my own knowledge:
1. This share issuance scheme is to incentivise a select gp of stakeholders(usually key staff and sometimes employees) for the work done. A price is set for them to exercise the rights;
2. If the shares are exercised, then the no of shares will be increased. So, there is naturally a dilution of the earnings, if the earnings remain the same;
3. More shares will mean lower EPS for the same amount of earnings. PE has to depend on the share price.

Seriously, for a counter that is below 10 sen, will all these really matter? If it is a RM1 counter, this would matter a lot to me.

Yes, operator likes to bring down share price when the rights shares are listed. Why? Increase in shares supply. That's why I said a storm is coming.

U talk as if u know how mkt works. Can u tell me how many ANZO shares are genuinely traded today?

I bet u can't .

I am talking about facts and do a comparison between Iwcity and ANZO forumers.

Let's face it. Whatever u and the others say will not change the operator's plan. If u really want to help more pp, pls go outside this forum to state your stand to all the other innocent pp. Do not just do a half-done job. It is not going to be effective.

Talking about this, I think ANZO forumers are rather nice. Never chase out anybody who talks down on the counter.

Still 9.5/10 sen.

Haha....

I do not like to talk down on a counter on the thread specifically for that counter. Otherwise, it might end up like your case, kena chased out on Iwcity thread.

If u look at my postings, u should know I gave out good warning in a subtle way to the forumers, basing on the experience of the ANZO.

Really? So I am smarter. I have seen the correction coming.

Haha....

Ccmeow, pls have more patience to wait out this correction to buy good-value stocks. No need to rush in.

Finally, US mkts succumb to some selling pressure out of US-North Korean escalated tension. US mkts have been making new highs in the past few months, without a "decent" correction. This war risk could provide a "perfect" excuse for the big boys and fund managers to take profit and bring down share prices.

If u analyse yesterday's drop, Nasdaq drops 2.13%, followed by S&P(1.45%) and Dow(0.93%). Big names like Apple, Alphabet, Amazon and Netflix all traded lower.

Let's see how our blue chips and high valuation growth stocks will perform today.

For me, I have sounded out a caution note with my candid advice earlier. So, I am not unduly alarmed with this.

I had pulled out some funds from the riskier assets.

Do not worry. I like to talk facts and sense...

If u look at my earlier posting on 4/8/17(last Fri), u will know that I had already highlighted poor KLCI mkt breadth and this was further aggravated by the selldown on 8/8/17 morning(before the tension escalated). So, the current poor mkt breadth that u highlighted is just a continuation of the poor mkt sentiment that had already happened earlier, now compounded by the US-North Korean tension.

Pls get the facts right. Haha...

Really? More so for some of the high-valuation growth stocks. Bank counters are still holding well, supported by local funds?

ANZO - still no movement???

Yes, blue chips are very sensitive to any war event. But not so for penny stocks, esp a stock like ANZO that has dropped so low.

That is why my candid advice sounds equally relevant too as I mentioned blue chips are not cheap either.

Wow, great minds think alike. My way of interpreting the mkt is echoed by investment managers too.

Haha......

Dow closed 36 pts lower yesterday on US-North Korean tension. Why? Mkt had discounted a war as a remote possibility.

If war is imminent, u think it would only drop 36 pts? Anyhow, this is still considered as a mkt risk.

Nothing interesting to watch the screen today. Better go across the causeway to see the celebration activities on the side of the causeway, more interesting.

Haha...

Still 9.5/10 sen. Not much movement. Probably, have to wait till the QR release, to see more action.

But most small caps and some growth stocks have started to show signs of weakness, after yesterday's selldown in the morning.

10 days ago, I gave out my candid advice to put your hard-earned $$$ in fixed deposits. This was indeed a very timely reminder for those who like to chase high, be it in a penny stock or a growth stock operated by sharks of all sizes.

Mr Deng Xiao Ping said, "Whether it is a white or black cat, one that can catch mice is a good cat!".

So, no need to look for the best method. Any trade plan that can help u make $$$ is a good method. Any counter that can help u make $$$ is a good counter(to u).

Haha.......

My entertainment time is over for today. Time for more important things. Bye.....

Also, seek professional advice/mentoring when using it. For those who had bought it at higher than 12 sen, this may not be appropriate too.

Pls refer back to my 3-year trade plan posted earlier, in greater detail. To buy at 12, 9 and 6 sen. Sell if higher than holding cost(the higher, the better).

Contra and short term players, pls stay out. This is not for the amarteur(newbies).

Last Friday, when it was trading at 9.5/10 sen, I thought my 9 sen target would be hit. But it closed at 10.5 sen instead. So near and yet so far.

Haha....

There are obviously 3 gps of forumers on this thread:
1. The good - to warn others of price manipulation;
2. The bad - to talk down on the counter so as to collect cheap;
3. The ugly - runners of the operator to execute operator's plan and/or collect info on the ground.

See which gp u are in. For me, I lay my cards open. I do not talk down on this counter to collect cheap nor talk up this counter to sell high. I speak mainly on facts/opinions derived from facts and let nature take its course.

Haha that should be the forum spirit to foster on this thread....

Frankly, the operator has already drawn a downtrend chart for this counter. It is easier to push down the share price(buying support is weak or fake) and it has to hit a "real" bottom, before any meaningful rebound(along with other speculative counters), most likely next year(my guess).

The whole penny stocks mkt(including most growth stocks) is broadly weak lately, judging from the mkt breadth. So, this counter is not spared too.

Before investing in this speculative counter, u need to have an in-dept study of sharks behaviour.

I have already pointed out pathetic vol traded in the morning and until 14.50 hours, when it was only 163,100 shares traded.

At 10 sen, who would be throwing down 1 million shares for 1 min only? Not many ordinary shareholders own this type of vol. If a big shareholder throws down 1 million shares, u think the price would still be at 10 sen.

So, my experience tells me this was most likely done by the operator to confuse the retail investors.

Haha.....I use my analytical power to make informed decisions

Wow, operator can hear what I said. Suddenly, he threw 1 million shares at 14.58 hours.

Smoke screen again? Haha I monitor u every min with the help of the modern technology....

Like that, those who want to buy below 10 sen like me have got to wait long long....

Of course, a dot does not make a trend. Let's see how it is being played out by an operator who appears to be caught in a fix.

Wow, the vol traded is still low at 163,100 shares. If this continues, it will set the World Guiness record as being one of the lowest daily vol traded for a manipulative stock.

Do not play play.....haha......

Today, another pathetic day for the operator! Thr vol traded so far is only 92,000 shares....

Pls help the operator to think of what to do....

Sorry. Typo error. Your target price was 1.50 or something like that in 10 years' time....

When I said high target prices, I meant in earlier days u gave out high target prices such as $150(or something like that) to be achievable for PM Corp in 10 years time.

This type of target price is sure to invite cycnical remarks. I am not against you. I am using this just to illustrate my point.

I remember when Calvin Tan was promoting PM Corp in the beginning, he liked to give high target prices and he invited attacks and cynical remarks from other forumers.

So, never promote a counter with high target prices. Just state facts and/or comments backed up with facts.

Today, many punters are chasing high with IFCA Msc Bhd. Why never buy when it was at 37 sen.

Operator really loves u all. Up, he has faithful followers. Down, he can collect more, all so scared of a falling knife...

Haha...no wonder operaror loves u all...

Yes, contra or short term players, pls stay out. When operator needs you, he will push up the share price for you to chase high.

Operaror loves u all.

Entertainment time now. That's why I can tease the operator. I think his runners will report the feeling on the ground to him....

Haha....

Baharuddin is suggesting that the next rebound for this counter will be in 2018. This would mean that 2017 is a good year for collection.

Let's see if he is right. For me, which way it moves, I am ever ready.

Operator - pls do a good job - why still stuck in a narrow 10 to 11 sen range? Do u need viagra to really move up or down?

Haha....

Hstha, the way u promote this counter reminds me of Calvin Tan & Leno, who were then actively promoting their PM Corp counter on the thread quite some time ago. But the share price remains sluggish until they have eventually given up promoting.

Let nature take its course. The more u promote it repeatedly without any new substance, the more u will be ridiculed and made fun of.

In the collectors' world, some would like to collect diamond(status symbol of high price), some like to collect rubby or sapphire. While for some, they can only collect jade.

Everyone has his reason for the collection, so long as he finds "value" in it. We should not impose our thinking on others, when they are different from ours.

One man's meat is another's poison. Not a buy or sell call always. Do your own homework before
investing or collecting.

Yes, for the risk-averse, pls go to the safety of fixed deposits. KLSE blue chips are no longer cheap and most growth stocks, etc have been "pushed up" so much by the operators of all sizes. Not sure how much more they can go up. Better wait for a major correction before going in.

This is my candid advice.

That is logical and rational thinking. But when mkt is weak, some short term subscribers may choose to cut loss if the share price is pressed down by the operator.

Let's see how things pan out....

Ccmeow, we do not know how low the operator would push this counter. On the safer side, it is good to space out your purchases in batches.

For me, I stick to my trade plan. I do not talk down on the counter to collect cheap. I let the operator do the job for me.

Haha.....