DK added me back to the group !

"The plan to procure a fleet of Build-Operate-Transfer projects goes on with small acceptable delays, foreign investors are satisfied by the 12% internal rate of return allowed in their Power Purchase Agreements". The author cited Circular 56/2014/TT-BCT on method of determination of electricity generation costs, sequence of inspection of power purchase agreement (PPA). 50 (Ministry of Industry and Trade, 2014) as source of reference.

haha, IR said internal projection of equity IRR. What is Internal projection ?

no except

JHDP is more than 30MW

Didn't you receive this email from DK ?

Another article by Minh Ha-Duong. Three scenarios for coal power in Vietnam. 2019. chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://shs.hal.science/halshs-02263898v2/document stated that :

"The plan to procure a fleet of Build-Operate-Transfer projects goes on with small acceptable delays, foreign investors are satisfied by the 12% internal rate of return allowed in their Power Purchase Agreements". The author cited Circular 56/2014/TT-BCT on method of determination of electricity generation costs, sequence of inspection of power purchase agreement (PPA). 50 (Ministry of Industry and Trade, 2014) as source of reference.

chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/http://vepg.vn/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/373_QD_EVN_PPA_EN.pdf

The interpretation in Section 5 POWER PRICE NEGOTIATION AND PPA stated;

2. For small hydropower projects and other traditional energy projects:

For power plant projects with total installed capacity of at least 30MW, the power plants with installed capacity of less than 30MW voluntarily take part in the market, except for multitarget strategic hydropower plants, independent power plants invested in Build – Operate – Transfer (BOT) form and power plants using new renewable energy (wind, geothermal, tide and biomass), other power plants (when no private mechanism stipulated by Ministry of Industry and Trade, follow the regulations in Circular No. 56): Follow the regulations in Circular No. 56.

JHDP is regulated by circular 56

Haha, I asked DK about the max IRR for JHDP and DK told me that I was right to say that the IRR cannot be more than 12%. Hence, capacity payments must be declining over the concession period. I was right, so how ?

I told DK some very good reasons why he should close the group. So you should quickly write to DK with very good reasons why he shouldn't before he make his decision.

He has done so much for his group for so long, now it is time for him to do what is best for himself.

You are right, DK is not irrational. He knows what is in his best interest to do.

DK is not GOD. He has feeling. You better write a long letter to explain to him not me.

I am helping DK to see through the real Aseng !

Still remember the above statement from you ?? DK did not say that his peer comparison article is unreliable. Even Sslee said DK was right on his profit estimation. No other people get such a close estimation. Profit is different from cash flow. Even with shorter loan tenure, the annual profit will not be affected. It only affects cash flow. You think DK appreciates this ?

Iamxuewen
have you read DK most reliable valuation methodolgi . the peer comparative valuation . here we do not need much mangement guidance . what happen then ? UNREALIABLE !!!!!!!

Wait for DK to investigate the chat history. His action will tell whose side he is. Keep telling lie here won't do you good. DK is probably reading here also.

Now DK's group is manipulated and controlled by a few to serve their own interests. Should this be allowed to continue, DK ?

I shared an email reply from DK to the group on the foreseeable liquidity problems but some members want me not to share to the public forum because they are not ready to cut loss.

Many members have left the group since DK retired from the group. Now that DK has sold Jaks completely because he predicted liquidity problems but members in the group are still told to hold and do nothing and continued to suffer more losses. My opposing view is not welcomed by a very small group of active members and was labelled as spreading fear. I was forced to apologize and I refused. So, i was removed.

These are more reasons why DK should have closed the group much earlier.

Posted by valueinvestor33 > 7 hours ago | Report Abuse

Just stay away from the group as you and the creator of the group has got nothing with Jaks anymore. Both of you are no longer relevant and all your comments are not welcomed by the members.


valueinvestor33

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Posted by valueinvestor33 > 7 hours ago | Report Abuse

Retired means retired. Door closed, barking or making noises here and there does not really gain you any anything. 🤣

Asengkianjoo

close the group just because you are kicked out ?
------------------- Of course NOT. You don't want to know the reasons and I won't tell you.

I asked sarifah to leave the group if she does not trust DK anymore. No provocation. Those who don't trust DK should leave.

You said DK's articles not reliable and his assumptions and calculations all wrong and now you are following your own instinct. You set new house rules. People Joined the group because of DK not you. Do you think DK will allow you to rule his house ?

Asengkianjoo

If you treasure the group as a platform of freely sharing of opinions but not fear mongering with unverified facts classified as confidential you would not have behavr like a mad dog here..how many times I had warn you not to non stop sharing you own speculation of the irr. how much l, a hot tempered person like aseng had exercised his maximum tolerance. Did you take heed. But demand the group to be close if not believe you. What the purpose you come to the public to do damage to the group ?.with the obvious ill behavior , there are thousand of reasonsand evidend to prove you had violate the rules of the group.SHOULD BE REMOVED --------------Don't lie here, how can I threaten a person with admin power to believe me or else close the group? I will not beg to be readmitted. I leave it to DK to decide my fate. Don't blame me if DK decides to close the group. DK asked me to exercise restrain while he reviews the chat history so I stop here.

I have written to DK and explained to him why he should close the group in the interest of everyone including himself.

I know you are a coward, creating another ID to spy in the private group.

After my removal, who else will dare to speak against Aseng in DK's group ?

I was removed from DK private group by Aseng as DK has retired long ago. Because I agreed with Gotyou article that the capacity charge is declining using max 12% IRR in PPA negotiation as arguments. Jaks IR confirmed that the capacity charge is actually declining but said that based on INTERNAL projections, the equity IRR is still above 12%. The regulations does not allow OFFICIAL project IRR to be more than 12% during PPA negotiation. That does not mean that Jaks cannot achieve project IRR above 12% due to cost savings or higher production of electricity. I have done nothing wrong. DK allows all opinions as long as they are supported by credible arguments whether right or wrong. Is my removal fair to those silent members who can only hear one sided opinion now? I demand an apology and immediate reinstatement of my membership so that I can continue to share freely. Otherwise, I will report to DK on this unfair treatment and cyber bully. Seriously, I will recommend DK to shut down the group to protect the less informed members from one sided brainwash.

Anyone approached the investor relation on whether the capacity charges are declining over the concession period?

Wow, this article is NO.1 on the top article list.

But longer term loan increases the risks for the bankers. That is probably why the JHDP loan itself only 10 years tenure.

soon9913, the longer the repayment period, the more interest you have to pay.

soon9913, majority of the power plant profit is contributed by the capacity charge payments. Therefore higher or lower electricity production from the power plant will have marginal impact on the bottom line.

Gotyou, some people are doubting the information provided by the unknown individual. Why are you so confident that the information provided to you is genuine?

This article implies that revenue of JHDP will drop by 50% after 12 years and 67% towards the end of the 25 years concession period.

https://klse.i3investor.com/web/blog/detail/gotyou/2023-07-19-story-h-245593807-SORRY_I_MADE_A_BIG_MISTAKE_ON_JAKS_RESOURCES_CASH_FLOW_PROJECTION

Yes, sharing is caring. Thank you for this very important information.

Really unexpected ...............

https://klse.i3investor.com/web/blog/detail/gotyou/2023-07-19-story-h-245593807-SORRY_I_MADE_A_BIG_MISTAKE_ON_JAKS_RESOURCES_CASH_FLOW_PROJECTION

Gotyou, you have not considered the 24% corporate tax on foreign source income upon remittance into Malaysia.

Sslee, any comment on Gotyou's writeup ?

https://klse.i3investor.com/web/blog/detail/gotyou/2023-07-13-story-h-245713930-WHAT_YOU_DON_T_KNOW_ABOUT_JAKS_RESOURCES

gianglong, confirm?

highly unlikely to be delisted

The 10 years loan tenure was first noticed by DK and later confirmed by the management.

sslee, management has confirmed 10 yrs tenure for its jhdp loan.

Fact findings are important regardless of price level. DK discovered that the loan tenure for JHDP is 10 years instead of the maximum 18 years approved by the Vietnam government. Jaks management was pressed to clarify the tenure of jhdp loan during the AGM. DK's discovery allows more accurate prediction of jaks future cash flows by to the investors.

Speak for yourself. You don't represent the majority of the members. DK is still well respected. Most, if not all, members still welcome DK's writeup whether positive or not. If you don't want to hear from DK, why don't you leave like Sarifah?

if you're a group member, I suggest you leave the group then you will have peace of mind.

valueinvestor33, not everyone is so irresponsible like you.

I can't do that without DK's permission

SarifahSelinder, as you only just left the group, what do you think of DK's own writeup on Jaks' potential liquidity issues which was recently shared to his private group exclusively? Also irresponsible?