Mhb and icon have limited down side .

When the sharks are doing press and dump , they will engage some writers to write a lot of bad things to prevent the retail buyers from buying at cheaper price , so that they can make huge profits .

The sharks may just push up and down within a narrow range until the time when they have no choice but have to push up the share price .

When a leader company's shares price is at historical low or close to historical low , What investors should do are to determine whether the future prospects of that company . If it willl be good then buy and keep , if it will not be good or become bad , then just don't buy or cut lost . The sharks may just push down another few sens just to make the retail buyers panic. How many sens the sharks will push down from 70 sen depend on the amount of shares the retail buyers will buy . The more retail buyers buy , the sharks will push down more until the level the sharks also can afford to lose . For Sapnrg , it may be 70 sen or worse like ARMADA 50 sen which is unlikely . For AIRASIA case dropped to 70 over sens it rebounded quickly , now around 3.30 . For Uems , it dropped to around 77 sen in last quarter of 2015 , but it rebounded to around 1.50 within few months . How fast and how high the share price can go , it depends on how fast and how much shares the retail buyers have sold besides the fundamental of the.company . Even if the fundamental of the company is good , if most of the shares are in the hands of retail buyers , the sharks will not push up quickly and let the retail buyers make a lot of money .only those who have the highest level of patient can make most profit from the sharks . But the sharks will redistribute those shares they bought from retail buyers at high price to subsequent retail buyers .

A lot of funds managers did suffer papers losses after they have bought a company's shares . What they did was to buy more and average down the cost and make sure the company future growth is good . Warren Buffett always says every morning when he wakes up , he is looking for other investors stupid actions so that he can buy more shares at cheaper price .

When a leader company in a particular industry , for example PMETAL in aluminum industry , AIRASIA in airline , PUBLIC Bank and MAYBANK in banking industry .If they can not do well , that means the whole industry is dead or sunset , same for SAPNRG in Oil and gas industry .

What happened to Fgv was it shot up to 2.30 within few months .

When ARMADA dropped from 2.00 to 0.70 , those who bought and cut lost at 0.68, 0.65 seemed to have done a good job , but if they have not bought back at 0.51 , Then they had suffered losses and have to buy back at 0.75 now . For those who have cut lost at 0.70 - 0.71 , they may not have chance to buy back at 0.51 like ARMADA case if SAPNRG . For those who said sell , sell sell , cut lost ,cut lost cut lost at this level 0.70 , they should have told retail buyers not to buy when Sapnrg was trading around 1.80- 2.0 , or asked retail buyers to cut lost at 1.40 - 1.50 before this panic sale happened . There are some people engaged by sharks to write a lot of bad things about the company in order to mislead and prevent retail buyers from buying at cheap price and facilitate sharks to buy at low price and make huge profits . When KNM was trading more than 2.0 , a lot of analysts and writers said good . When Knm share price dropped to 0.47 , some analysts kept telling to sell or cut lost at 0.47 because target price was 0.42 sometimes in the first quarter of 2014 . What happened was KNM share price shot up to more than 1.10 before year end of 2014 . Same case for Fgv a year ago , when it's share price was around 1.33 - 1.38 , analysts kept telling sell , sell sell , target price 1.29 only .

A better way to invest or buy shares is not to use margin and get involved with all the aunties and uncles which will disturb you along the way . One of the very important point is the entry point , that means the price you buy the share . You must buy the share at price below its fair value and to ensure the future growth of the company is good in order to avoid losses . If the company's share is over priced and you missed from the beginning , then let it go , don't chase , wait for other counters .

When a listed company's shares price is low or below its fair value , and the company's prospects in the next few years will be good , the boss and the sharks will quietly and slowly accumulate until almost cornered the shares . Along the way in pushing the shares price , they will push a bit and dump a bit with thin Volume . By the time when they have accumulated enough , they will speed up the pushing . When the share price is few times higher or few hundred percent up then the range of up and down become greater , so that they can attract more retail buyers in order for them to distribute the shares to retailers at high price . When the share price is low , tight range , when the share price is few times higher from the low , the range is very much greater . Examples hengyuan , petronm , huaan , Pmetal etc

Umwog is trading at the range from 28sen - 38 sen at this moment , down side limited , upside is very much more than that . If you buy at 28 sen and sell at 37 sen , you can make more than 30 % , even if you are trapped for two years , your return is still more than 15 % a year .

Look at Hengyuan a year ago, when it dropped from 5.00 to 2.20 , a falling knife ? Within a year rocketed up to 19.20 , if you buy at 19.0 and average down at 18.00 and so on at 17.0 then you are catching a falling knife .!

How low can SAPNRG go ? 3 sen , 5 sen or 30 ? Or 50 sen ? If you have extra money to invest and prepare for one or two years , why worry about it , falling knife ? When the share price was 4.00 dropped to 3.0 , it was falling knife , when it dropped from 3.0 to 2.0 , it could be falling knife , when it dropped from 2.0 to 1.20 , it might be falling knife - but if the share price is 0.70 , you can do average to lower down your cost as long as the company won't go bankrupt , you can make a good profit in one or two years .

If the boss keep on buying and the company's shares are worth very much more than the market price , all investors should follow the boss . Those who have a lot of money in bank can follow the boss . The share price dropped from around 0.55 in NOVEMBER 2009 to around 0.20 .now the company's projects have started and the company is making profit for last few quarters and is expected to make more profit in the next few years . For a company with few billions shares , if all retail shareholders own a billion shares , and the boss push up 50 sen in a short period , then the boss and goreng Kaki will suffer a huge loss . So when the price is low , they won't push up a lot . Just like HUAAN , HENGYUAN , PETRONM , the price up and down very fast .

If PUNCAK has one billion cash in hand , how much and how fast the cash can be disappeared ? When the volume is thin , it means the price is almost bottom ! The up and down of few sens is only to catch contra players by the cheap ! Cheap goreng Kali .

When RENONG ( code 1775 ) was around 0.30 in March 1999 , a lot of investors were worried and cut lost , but the share price shot up to 3.00 within a year . After that the share price dropped to around 0.30 again in March 2006 . After restructuring , it changed to UEMLAND
, the share price shot up to more than 5.00 . Then from year 2008 - 2010 ,the share price went down to 0.50 again . Again the share price shot up to 3.50 again in year 2013 again .

If the company's share is worth RM 1.00 and the company can make profit in the next few years as an investor , you can just buy at RM 0.70 and average down at 0.60 , 0.50 and keep for one year .if the daily volume become lesser and lesser , it means the share price is closed to bottom .
When AIRASIA share price was below 0.80 , a lot of investors were worried and panic . After few months , the price shot up a lot . Same for PMETAL In August 2015 . When WASEONG was around 0.70 , analysts asked to sell , but the sharks behind slowly accumulate . Same case for MUHIBAH in year 2013, when it was around 0.80 .

There are some people who were paid to write a lot of bad things in order to mislead investors from buying .